[Q] Help choosing ROM - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know these threads aren't popular and I understand if no one replies =p
I just purchased the N7 from a coworker and rooted it. My goals for a ROM was to find the most mature, stable CM10.1/AOKP ROM I could find for a DD and stick with it (I just had twins and don't have the happy flashy fun-time I used to). That seemed, to me at least, to be Stephen.k.spear's Official AOKP (PUB version) and as I was prepping to flash it I read he was taking a well-deserved hiatus.
So now I'm not sure whether to stick with his PUB AOKP, as by all accounts it seems to be a fantastic ROM, the non-PUB AOKP (since it's still being developed), or go with something like SmoothROM, or possibly ParanoidAndroid.
Again, I'm not a bells & whistles guy, nor am I looking for 'extreme' performance or battery savings. I just want a nice, clean AOSP look with CM10.1/AOKP feature-set, and as few bugs as possible.
Advice appreciated.

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Fastest/stable ROM avalible for my G1

Hi, I recently purchased a HTC Dream (aka G1) and am looking to replace the stock ROM with a more snappy and stable third party one (it has been rooted already). What currently is the best replacement ROM in terms of speed and stability?
Thanks in advance
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It's a matter of opinion, try them all and find what you like.
There has been TONS of threads opened up JUST like this. Do research, read ROM threads in the development section for user feedback to compare, and just flash away.
I personally use SuperD which a lot of people love. But in cases of wanting a solid ROM I recommend trying Cyanogen, his work is often built upon by other devs for their own custom ROMs and he doesn't release a bunch of little updates that make you have to flash every 3 days so its nice.

What is AOSP?

Hey, sorry for the N00b question. I'm a software developer (among other things), but am just now delving into the world of custom ROMs for my EVO 4g. I've been looking at what's available and see a few that say either AOSP or NOT AOSP.
This leads me to a few questions.
1. What is AOSP?
- Is it a separate code base (other than 3.70.651.1 #15) from which to start customizing the code to create a custom ROM?
2. What are the main differences that are generally present between the normal code base and AOSP based?
3. Can you go back to a ROM based on 3.70.651.1 (or another base) if you go AOSP?
4. If it is a custom code base, whas it created from scratch or based on something else?
Thanks for your time in answering this. If I'm way off base on what AOSP is, just let me know. I appreciate your replies!
Simple, it is android without any overlay from different carriers. It is just bone stock android.
Android Open Source Project.
Edited because I fail!
Disclaimer: I'm not taking anything away from any of the Devs here. I can't do any of the stuff they do with any of the ROMs, so please, don't take the following as such.
Most of the non AOSP roms here are themed versions of the stock rom with performance increasing tweaks and what not. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it is what it is.
AOSP roms like Cyanogenmod are built from the source code. They are usually more bleeding edge because when the source is released from Google, they get to working on the update. Cyanogenmod 7 is already on 2.3.3, whereas most sense roms are still on 2.2.1
AOSP is short for Android Open Source Project. It's the source code for Android.
HTC takes the AOSP code and then adds Sense and their other tweaks to it. Basically all ROMs whether they are from HTC, Samsung, or who ever, is based on AOSP. The thing is that some of the OEMs modify the code so much that things start to become incompatible. Plus if you go straight to AOSP right now, the source code is up to Android 2.3.3, no OEM released ROM is up to that version. So that creates even more incompatibilities.
Some custom ROMs use AOSP and implement the code to devices from the ground up. That's what Cyanogen Mod does. MIUI also does this (and adds some heavy modifications to the code as well) but that ROM isn't specifically built for the EVO but is instead ported from the Nexus One ROM.
To keep it simple:
- AOSP is Android at it's most basic form, it's straight from Google and is pretty much what the Nexus devices use as final builds.
- OEM ROMs are based on AOSP but are usually outdated and heavily modified.
- You can go back and forth if you want, but if you do, you should wipe your cache as their are incompatibilities.
Wow, that's great everyone! I completely understand now. I really appreciate all the help and replies!
Could I ask what everyone's favorite AOSP & non-AOSP ROM is? I know this has been asked before, but I'd like the opinions of those that replied to this post, if they don't mind.
I'm looking for "bleeding-edge" technology, wireless tethering, hulu, etc. all the bells and whistles essentially. I don't care so much about how "pretty" it looks, just functionality and cool-gadgety-stuff. Thanks again!!!
ShadowCyborg said:
Wow, that's great everyone! I completely understand now. I really appreciate all the help and replies!
Could I ask what everyone's favorite AOSP & non-AOSP ROM is? I know this has been asked before, but I'd like the opinions of those that replied to this post, if they don't mind.
I'm looking for "bleeding-edge" technology, wireless tethering, hulu, etc. all the bells and whistles essentially. I don't care so much about how "pretty" it looks, just functionality and cool-gadgety-stuff. Thanks again!!!
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i would definitely suggest you look at cyanogenmod. it is built straight from source but improved apon in many ways. you can think of cyanogenmod as a crowd sourced rom. meaning anyone can contribute and submit changes to it. it is governed and controlled by the core members of the cyanogenmod team (team douche) but open for anyone to modify. what this gets you is a rom as close to aosp but made better. things like the power bar widget in the notification menu, music controls on the lock screen, quiet hours (notifications are turned down or off as well as dimming leds during set hours so they do not wake if if you say get an email at 5am), etc etc. members of teamwin recently built 4g support from the ground up be themselves and it is now a part of cyanogenmod. besides adding in features they also do a great deal of optimizing creating one of the most streamlined, user friendly fastest roms available.
oh and one part of your question seems unanswered - the 3.70.x.x.x of sense based roms is just the numbering of the rom build from htc for sprint but will always be built off of an older version of android due to the amount of customization done to it.
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As far as AOSP go I like Cyanogen CM7 or MIUI but if I want a sense type rom I typically run Mikfroyo or Fresh.
Thank you all very much, once again! I have so far tried the following ROMs.
- King's Ultra Unleashed R2
- Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
I'm running Cyanogen Mod right now and it's pretty cool, but the problem is I really like different features of each. I do like how many features are built into the Cyanogen Mod ROM though. I have to say, I LOVE the quiet time feature a LOT! I've wished Android had that for a while now. Oh, and the increased battery life and decreased charge time of both is AWESOME!!! My phone had gotten to the point where it wouldn't even charge in the car. It just kept the battery at the level it was at. Now it will only drop 7% battery over the entire night, unplugged!
I'm contemplating trying the EVO Non-Sense right now. I am just trying many of them to see which I like the best. Thanks for all the advise everyone!
Koni Elite II has some really cool features in it. try them all, it's a lot of fun
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i thought it was the name of an ancient greek writer?
ShadowCyborg said:
Thank you all very much, once again! I have so far tried the following ROMs.
- King's Ultra Unleashed R2
- Cyanogen Mod 6.1.2
I'm running Cyanogen Mod right now and it's pretty cool, but the problem is I really like different features of each. I do like how many features are built into the Cyanogen Mod ROM though. I have to say, I LOVE the quiet time feature a LOT! I've wished Android had that for a while now. Oh, and the increased battery life and decreased charge time of both is AWESOME!!! My phone had gotten to the point where it wouldn't even charge in the car. It just kept the battery at the level it was at. Now it will only drop 7% battery over the entire night, unplugged!
I'm contemplating trying the EVO Non-Sense right now. I am just trying many of them to see which I like the best. Thanks for all the advise everyone!
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you can also try cm7, which is gingerbread based. cm6.x.x is froyo based. its in the rc1 stage meaning it is almost finalized. the rc1 does not have 4g but the nightlies do.
rc1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187
nightlies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729802
the nightlies are also 2.3.3 which is the newest build. nightlies=bleeding edge. they, as the name implies, as released nightly and contain all the code submitted from that day. sometimes they are broken or even fail to build but such is the life of living on the edge!
Alanman, thanks! I was thinking about trying that one too and... I agree that this is a BLAST! I'm absolutely loving the custom features, software and abilities.
Digged up an old thread through search
I was wondering what AOSP meant as well, but thanks I now know and might try some of the suggested ROMs in here So far I had only tried a King ROM (Shooter) with Sense 3.0. I don't mind it, but currently I can't get Swype to behave for me so I was thinking about dropping it and moving onto another.

ROM recommendations?

I love the stock ROM so far. Coming from a rooted Sammy 10.1 that had the full tablet UI, but I think with the 7" for factor the stock feels rgt for a change. I still would like to root and get whatever helpful mods on here that I can. An OC kernel with better battery life is always great too. What choices do you guys recommend for what I'm after?
Rooted with stock is working fine for me at the moment. I wanted root just to get otg thumb drive support for more space for my 8 Gig rig. I could not pass up that $200 price tag and still get some 64 gig loving Lol.
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Can I use a custom kernel with rooted stock? Will it work as well? Maybe a bad question.
Most ROMs and kernels are so early along that you better be prepared for stability issues.
My recommendation is that you go look around the Android Development forums and the Original Development forums. Everyone has their different preferences and styles in their choices, so nobody here will be able to tell you exactly what to use.
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Most ROMs and kernels are so early along that you better be prepared for stability issues.
My recommendation is that you go look around the Android Development forums and the Original Development forums. Everyone has their different preferences and styles in their choices, so nobody here will be able to tell you exactly what to use.
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Yeah. I read around and it does seem early bit the kernels look good so far. 1.5 with some undervolting seems stable. But the hybrid Roms aren't what I'm looking for. Maybe a cm10 when its ready.
ThePerson98 said:
Most ROMs and kernels are so early along that you better be prepared for stability issues.
My recommendation is that you go look around the Android Development forums and the Original Development forums. Everyone has their different preferences and styles in their choices, so nobody here will be able to tell you exactly what to use.
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That statement is very misleading, as there are several ROMS with zero known issues whatsoever, and kernels too. Sure, most of them are unstable, but you only really need one of each to be stable. For example Trinity is totally stable, never an issue with that Kernel. CM10 is stable as far as I have heard, I have not tried it. But I have used AOKP and encountered not the first issue since installing that wasn't cause by apps not liking JellyBean(which would have happened on stock). My advice is, root then backup stock. Then toss on a few ROMS and see how you feel about it. Can always go back. It's the rooting itself that voids your warranty. Once done there is really no reason not to try on a few ROMS. If it's stability you need stick to CM10 and AOKP in my opinion. Most other ROMS are simply based on these with more things added, and that is where your stability problems usually lie anyway.
Paranoid Android. It has everything I wanted that wasn't included in the stock image.
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Paranoid Android. It has everything I wanted that wasn't included in the stock image.
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I loved PA but i had major problems with it, sadly, that required me to move on to another ROM.
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That statement is very misleading, as there are several ROMS with zero known issues whatsoever, and kernels too. Sure, most of them are unstable, but you only really need one of each to be stable. For example Trinity is totally stable, never an issue with that Kernel. CM10 is stable as far as I have heard, I have not tried it. But I have used AOKP and encountered not the first issue since installing that wasn't cause by apps not liking JellyBean(which would have happened on stock). My advice is, root then backup stock. Then toss on a few ROMS and see how you feel about it. Can always go back. It's the rooting itself that voids your warranty. Once done there is really no reason not to try on a few ROMS. If it's stability you need stick to CM10 and AOKP in my opinion. Most other ROMS are simply based on these with more things added, and that is where your stability problems usually lie anyway.
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I've used Trinity Kernel a few times now and have had stability issues, even without overclocking. I think it has something to do with deep sleep, but whatever it is, it's frustrating. I'm gonna wait a few weeks to let the problems get ironed out before using it again. I'm on CM10 at the moment, and for the most part it seems rather stable, but I do have random issues here and there, and I don't know if they're related to the ROM or not. The only reason I'm on it is because I'm a bit flash happy, and just find the nightly updates exciting.
For most users, my recommendation persists, stick with stock and give the development a bit more time. If a user is feeling adventurous, then your advice definitely applies: Get a good backup, and explore with a multitude of ROMs, for everyone has different tastes and preferences.
Well dear all the people talking about stability issues:
Not flaming, just expressing my opinion:
Morfic's trinity kernels are still experimental releases, I wouldn't be expecting stability because they are not classed as 'stable'
I used earlier versions of his kernels and faced no problems at all
So it depends on which kernel/kernel version as to whether or not its stable
I am on AOKP build 1 and using Faux's 008 mainline kernel, it works very well, super stable and super quick
No issues at all here, I guess because I am on two stable and tested releases

Feeling a bit overwhelemed

Hi all,
I have had my one for a while now and have been lurking around the forums for the most part. I have done S-OFF, Rooting, Recovery and many other tweaks. Now that 4.2.2 is hitting the rom scene for us I am wanting to dive into a rom but I am feeling a bit overwhelmed at the options.
Obviously the ROMS fall into 2 categories of sense and vanilla and there is obvious advantages to both sides. I want to try a more factory build so I have been considering flashing the recent dump of the GE One but there are some things like Pie control and custom DPI settings that I very much want to use and would like it if they were baked in rather than needed me to side load.
I am hoping that you all can give me some advice on some good 4.2 Vanilla roms to try out. Maybe Kang, Paranoid, CM... and I know there is a lot of other well known ROM makers around here with ROMS I do not recognize the names of (Carbon, Viper, Revolt). So if you have any recommendations I would love to hear them.
I am on the verge of the GE rom but going to wait for stock 4.2.2 then decide after if that helps
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I am on the verge of the GE rom but going to wait for stock 4.2.2 then decide after if that helps
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Yeah I wouldnt mind waiting but I dont mind flashing back and have been looking forward to trying out stock or AOSP on the one for a while just not sure where the various AOSP roms stand right now as far as ease of use, bugs, and general smoothness.
Just try out a few and see which ones you like
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Just try out a few and see which ones you like
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This.
Once you've got the hang of flashing ROMs and using titanium backup to move your apps across them, you'll have no problem changing between ROMs regularly. Once you find something that works for you, stick with it for a while then see if anything else grabs your attention.
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I am currently using ViperOne ROM, and love it. Its very smooth and offers a huge amount of customization options.
Aside from the above, I also can highly recommend Android Revolution HD, and TrickDroid. Both are very smooth, stable, and have large followings with great dev support right here on XDA. On a side note, Viper and TrickDroid do have close ties from a developer standpoint. Viper is the ROM intended to offer total customization, where as TrickDroid is a more stock ROM.
Either way, Ive tried a lot of ROMs on my One but the above three have really stood out to me.
Hope that helps you in some way. Were pretty lucky in that our device has a lot of excellent devs working with it. :victory:
We generally don't allow best ROM threads or ROM comparison threads because they are usually very subjective. Try them all and choose what you think is the best, not what others think is the best Thread closed.

[Q] Need advice on choosing a ROM

Hello.
I need advice/suggestions on choosing a Rom for my Samsung Galaxy S 4 (I9505/jfltexx). What I am looking for is a ROM that is stable and actively maintained with regards to bug and security fixes, preferably AOSP based. I have no need for neither all sorts of bells and whistles, fancy eye candy nor bleeding edge features. Rushing to the latest major android version is not a priority, having my phone fully working is, though.
Here is some "background data" om me in the hope of providing a more complete picture of what I am looking for based on my previous use/experience.
I have owned 3 android capable devices. HTC Legend, Samsung Galaxy SII and Samsung Galaxy S 4. One can argue these have been poor choice of devices but it is what it is. I have been running mainly Cyanogenmod since 6.1 I believe on all devices. Fact is, flashing CM has been one of the first thing I have done after buying a new device as I tend to "gag" on HTCs and Samsungs firmware. The first few years I used to tinker about with the devices a lot, flashing stable, RC, milestone and nightlies, different ROMs/kernels frequently but always found my way back to fairly default CM. It has been a bumpy ride on CM (yes, I realize this is in part due to my choise of devices) and while I am not here to lash out at CM in general, recent choices from the CM team and increasingly inconsistent support for my current device leads me to looking for alternatives while really appreciating the sheer amount of great work the CM team have done over the years.
So, what drew me towards CM in the first place? Well, mostly the flexibility/customizability of the ROM and the power/control I felt I had of it, the openness of it and what once was an active, positive community around it. Admittedly, SenseUI and TouchWiz probably pushed me towards it as well. The most recent year or two I have moved a bit away from tinkering and have had a higher need for a stable and maintained ROM that "just works".
I had decided to go for OmniROM, it seemed to be a decent alternative but I am under the impression that my device is no longer supported. Have been considering CopperheadOS as well.
Anyway, I am open to suggentions.
Cheers.
Slimsaber and Slim roms are constantly updated. They are also mantained by the same developer.
Resurrection Remix. I use this rom for some time and I have no issues. But this depends from phone to phone.
It is pretty feature rich.
The GPE rom is also a good choice. But GPE 5.1 is still pretty new and may not offer a stable and bugfree experience. You might want to try GPE 5.0, but it is not mantained anymore, since the move to 5.1.
There is a pure AOSP rom. It's basically the same thing you find on a nexus device.

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