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Earlier I was nokia N86 user. Charger of that phone is same like SGS2. I charged my SGS2 with that charger. And I got the feeling that it was faster than original SGS2 charger.
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Give us some data on charging timers pls.
Details please....
Ok will give it in few days. I'll start calculating it.
Will u need any screen shots? If yes than how I mean is der any way to calculate time directly on phone?
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i have a nokia n97 mini charger which i use to charge my SGS2. It is indeed faster. But i guess it is because the nokia charger is capable of 1.2 A against only 0.7 A for the Samsung charger. Keep in mind that the voltage is the important number when matching chargers.
Both chargers are 5 V. Having higher A number means the charger is capable of giving out more power (power = V x A), power is energy rate (how much energy per second delivered). That is why Nokia's charger is faster, because it can give enery at a faster rate
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i have a nokia n97 mini charger which i use to charge my SGS2. It is indeed faster. But i guess it is because the nokia charger is capable of 1.2 A against only 0.7 A for the Samsung charger. Keep in mind that the voltage is the important number when matching chargers.
Both chargers are 5 V. Having higher A number means the charger is capable of giving out more power (power = V x A), power is energy rate (how much energy per second delivered). That is why Nokia's charger is faster, because it can give enery at a faster rate
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The question is: is this gonna waste the samsung's battery?
I'm no battery expert but wouldn't samsung have selected the amp level for a reason??
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I'm no battery expert but wouldn't samsung have selected the amp level for a reason??
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Yes, Price been issuing an (I think 1amp) old htc charger. Not sure I notice a difference in charge speed, though its possible it still helps when running flash, oced etc by helping power the phone more so the battery isn't picking up the slack and can maintain charging without load. And no more amps can't hurt,a load will pull what it needs (more volts WOULD be am issue) Its like a 1200 watt pc power supply to run grandmas pentium computer wouldn't hurt it, just be under utilized. Make sense?
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Are you surprised it charges faster? I'm socked that my SGSII charger only throws out 700mA.
What are they playing at giving "travel charger" in the box?
The charge speed is directly related to the current output of the charger in use, as long as the phone is designed to accept a current higher than the lowly 700mA the standard one outputs.
With a 1A charger you should get (in theory) ~43% faster charging, assuming the phone and battery can draw that much current to charge.
Let's hope the phone supports this:
In Battery Charging Specification,[38] new powering modes are added to the USB specification. A host or hub Charging Downstream Port can supply a maximum of 1.5 A when communicating at low-bandwidth or full-bandwidth, a maximum of 900 mA when communicating at high-bandwidth, and as much current as the connector will safely handle when no communication is taking place; USB 2.0 standard-A connectors are rated at 1.5 A by default. A Dedicated Charging Port can supply a maximum of 1.8 A of current at 5.25 V. A portable device can draw up to 1.8 A from a Dedicated Charging Port. The Dedicated Charging Port shorts the D+ and D- pins with a resistance of at most 200 Ω. The short disables data transfer, but allows devices to detect the Dedicated Charging Port and allows very simple, high current chargers to be manufactured. The increased current (faster, 9 W charging) will occur once both the host/hub and devices support the new charging specification.
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Would make charging insane.
I didnt understand whatever kani has quoted.
Plz somebody tell me is it safe to charge or not?
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Havent done any test but my old blackberry charger, charges the phone faster. Anything is faster than the stock charger.
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Hmm im interested in this thread, somebody with an electrical background should chime in on if its totally safe or not to use a charger with more current output.
I don't know if you european guys have different chargers than us, this is what mine reads.
input 100-240v- 50-60hz 0.15a
Output 5.0v 1.0A
unleashed12 said:
Hmm im interested in this thread, somebody with an electrical background should chime in on if its totally safe or not to use a charger with more current output.
I don't know if you european guys have different chargers than us, this is what mine reads.
input 100-240v- 50-60hz 0.15a
Output 5.0v 1.0A
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Mine says
"Input 100-240v- 50-60hz 0.15A
Output 5.0v 0.7A"
So yes, guess we do have different chargers
So i guess then NA has the theoretical 50% higher charging rate @ 1.0 A that one other guy was mentioning earlier; i was wondering because i really feel that my charge time on this phone isn't slow at all. Was looking to possibly make it faster even
Me too i saw a quickly charge with n97 charger.
But, with the original one, you gain like 1/2 hours of autonomy.
Quick charger = less time to charge the buttery but less time on battery
Slow charger = more time to charge buttery but more time of autonomy
The best should be charging the phone in offline mode using the computer
Mine says
Input : 150-300vac
50 - 60Hz 0.15A
output :5.0V 0.7A
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And On nokia charger
Input : AC100-240V/50-60HZ/160mA
output: DC 5.0V/1200mA
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I think it should be fine, i used another charger on my old HD2 for most of the time i had it (a year and a half) after i lost the original and never had any issues.
So can someone give a list of what chargers would charge the phone faster than the one that came with it.
thanks
The phone apparently limits the charging current to 650mA no matter the charger. Not sure I'd want to be the one testing increasing the cap though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132649&highlight=Charging
Hello everyone,
I was wondering how far the nexus 4 can be pushed concerning charging...
I noticed normal charger on AC mode goes 1.2A, if you use USB socket of your pc it only charges 0.5A.
What is the maximum of A that the Nexus 4's battery can go? In other words if I took a 2.1A charger How much of that would it actually use?
Thanks
Chargers don't push, devices draw. You could put a 50 amp charger on it, it won't draw any more current than with the stock charger.
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Chargers don't push, devices draw. You could put a 50 amp charger on it, it won't draw any more current than with the stock charger.
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So it can only draw 1.2A physically?
Is it technically possible for the device to draw more?
Is it a physical lumutation or a software limitation?
Not really, Nexus 4 Draw arround 700-900mA even with a
2.1A Charger...!
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So it can only draw 1.2A physically?
Is it technically possible for the device to draw more?
Is it a physical lumutation or a software limitation?
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Given a constant voltage, the load (circuit) determines the current flow.
Think of 85 watt/120 volt light bulb. When connected to 120v outlet, it always draw 85w. No matter if 1 amp is available, or 20 amps, it will always draw the same amount of current.
Unless of course you increase voltage. Voltage is pressure, current is flow. Increasing voltage will push more current given the same load. Of course, increasing voltage can also damage devices that are not designed for it. Try plugging a 12v light bulb into 120v... POP!
The charging circuit inside the phone determines the load that is presented to the supply. The reason it only draws 500ma when plugged into a computer USB port is because the phone is smart enough to know it is connected to a computer because of signal on the data pins (2 & 3). Power is on pins 1 & 4.
Hello friends,
So I just got my Note 4 and i'm wondering how long should I keep it in charge for the first time? And should I drain it on first use or charge it when it's at let's say 20%??
Thanks in advance.
14 hrs, dont drain, battery should be between 20-80% before charging in normal use, fast charge off.
@zurkx
Thanks for the reply.
Are you sure about the 14 hours??? I thought Li-ion batteries don't need that long of a charging time !!!
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@zurkxAre you sure about the 14 hours??? I thought Li-ion batteries don't need that long of a charging time !!!
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Please happily ignore that "advices".
Use Fast charge, charging takes exactly till the battery is full, that's about 1,5 hours for a full charge.
I don't see ANY sense in charging a LiIo battery "fuller than full", just impossible nonsense.
LiIo batteries suffer of aging, slightly increased by the number of charges, highly (!) increased by overheating, not of any memory effects.
There is NO "breaking in" of the Note 4s battery, amperage of fast charge doesn't come even near the safety limits, won't cause quick degradation or overheating.
So just don't listen go the immortal myths and "ancient wisdom" propagated by people not aware of the fact that battery technology indeed changed over the decades.
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Please happily ignore that "advices".
Use Fast charge, charging takes exactly till the battery is full, that's about 1,5 hours for a full charge.
I don't see ANY sense in charging a LiIo battery "fuller than full", just impossible nonsense.
LiIo batteries suffer of aging, slightly increased by the number of charges, highly (!) increased by overheating, not of any memory effects.
There is NO "breaking in" of the Note 4s battery, amperage of fast charge doesn't come even near the safety limits, won't cause quick degradation or overheating.
So just don't listen go the immortal myths and "ancient wisdom" propagated by people not aware of the fact that battery technology indeed changed over the decades.
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Thanks Chefprol.I have done some research on charging the battery and have come to a conclusion that once it's charged I can use it straight away but and then drain it to 18 to 20% then charge it fully.
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Please happily ignore that "advices".
Use Fast charge, charging takes exactly till the battery is full, that's about 1,5 hours for a full charge.
I don't see ANY sense in charging a LiIo battery "fuller than full", just impossible nonsense.
LiIo batteries suffer of aging, slightly increased by the number of charges, highly (!) increased by overheating, not of any memory effects.
There is NO "breaking in" of the Note 4s battery, amperage of fast charge doesn't come even near the safety limits, won't cause quick degradation or overheating.
So just don't listen go the immortal myths and "ancient wisdom" propagated by people not aware of the fact that battery technology indeed changed over the decades.
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Thanks ! i tought it would be a old myth to first drain the batery and then fully load it but as far as i know its only with old phones and mp3 players and such.
hope i will get my note 4 today ! waiting for it since monday
Fast Charge is not really a useful feature for me, it just hurts the battery more in the long run
what about the thoughts on conditioning the battery?
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There's no need to condition the battery, its a lithium battery.
If you're having battery drain issues I would suggest you clear your data cache.
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what about the thoughts on conditioning the battery?
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this is the same guy making up stuff about the note 4 GPS being bad.
dont listen to fools.
First charge needs to be 14 hours to trickle charge the battery to full and make sure the meter is calibrated to a full battery.
fast charge does reduce battery life since it charges at higher voltage and amperage. any battery gets damaged a little by that. best is a slow charge (preferably Qi) at a normal charging voltage. Slower the better for longer battery life. if you want convenience over battery life then by all means fast charge and mess it up and replace after 2-3 years.
Who's post are you referring to?
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this is the same guy making up stuff about the note 4 GPS being bad.
dont listen to fools.
First charge needs to be 14 hours to trickle charge the battery to full and make sure the meter is calibrated to a full battery.
fast charge does reduce battery life since it charges at higher voltage and amperage. any battery gets damaged a little by that. best is a slow charge (preferably Qi) at a normal charging voltage. Slower the better for longer battery life. if you want convenience over battery life then by all means fast charge and mess it up and replace after 2-3 years.
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Who's post are you referring to?
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It's mine. That guy already bumped into me a while ago, now it's time for his revenge.
I'll care for that, now...
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this is the same guy making up stuff about the note 4 GPS being bad.
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So here we go; you asked for it...
My critism about the Note 4 refers to it's GPS receiver, which is "deaf" compared to the competition and shows frequent signal drops.
More here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/gps-close-to-unusable-t2948602
dont listen to fools.
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Indeed - have a look:
First charge needs to be 14 hours to trickle charge the battery to full and make sure the meter is calibrated to a full battery.
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I already advised to realize this is 2014 battery technology, not the ancient batteries of the past.
Short: There is no "trickle charge" with Lithium-Ion-batteries.
See this: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries - quote: "The difference lies in a higher voltage per cell, tighter voltage tolerance and the absence of trickle or float charge at full charge."
fast charge does reduce battery life since it charges at higher voltage and amperage. any battery gets damaged a little by that.
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Quote: "The charge rate of a typical consumer Li-ion battery is between 0.5 and 1C in Stage 1, and the charge time is about three hours. Manufacturers recommend charging the 18650 cell at 0.8C or less."
"C" is the capacity, 3220 mAh with our Note 4's battery. So we're save to charge with a current (milliamperes, "mA") of up to 3220 mA - if we follow the manufacturer's advice for the older type of batteries of that kind (18650 is an old warrior in the field), there's still 2576 A left.
So what does our fast charge supply deliver ? Look at it's ratings: 5 V, 2 A (2000 mA).
So even fast charge is far below the limits - our real limit is 3220 mA, but fast charging just uses 2000 mA.
Sound and safe.
Wonder about me highlighting "higher voltage" in zurkx's highly elaborate statement in red ? - Answer is above: The voltage does NOT change, it is NOT higher. Of course not !
The worst enemies of LiIon batteries are heat and age.
Heat is generated by a) placing the device at a hot spot (like behind the car's windscreen or in bright sunlight), b) by using demanding features like 4K video recording or highend games, c) by charging .
a) Your call. Just don't let your Note get hot. Overheating destroys your battery in no time. We're lucky we've got an exchangeable battery - so nothing to really worry about.
b) Your call. See a).
c) Charging produces some heat, especially on the "last mile", when the battery is "almost full", because the battery is a bit reluctant of getting charged up to the brim. So more heat is generated in that last phase. It's not much, won't reach the safety limits. It just can't, because the build-in charging circuits limits the current if heat gets up.
By the way: That integrated charging circuits are propped with safety measures, checking charge, condition, temperature and the like.
So even if you hook up a charger capable of providing 20 whopping amperes, the circuits just won't let that happen.
There is no way of providing the battery too much current; it's automatically limited.
best is a slow charge (preferably Qi) at a normal charging voltage. Slower the better for longer battery life.
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Again; welcome to the 21st century. We don't need any slow charge. It's the opposite.
Charging right slow has the danger that apps on the phone draw more power than the charge provides. That may drain your battery instead of filling it.
Plus: If you hook up the charger for long, it will be recharged (charge gets "topped off") frequenly. And every new charging attempt has a slightly negative impact on the battery's life; it's like wearing it a bit down. - Charge often, reduce your battery's life. That damage is tiny, by the way. But it is there, so hooking up your charger for many hours slowly kills your battery.
Now for the aging:
if you want convenience over battery life then by all means fast charge and mess it up and replace after 2-3 years.
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LiIon battery ARE AGING, up from the time of manufacture.
You all know that: You charge a device like you're told by the instructions - but after 1 to 3 years you notice a severe drop of usage time, a drop of capacity.
That's aging.
NOTHING you can do against that but buying a new battery.
So your battery will lose it's capacity over time; if you use it or not. You all know that, you all experienced that.
With the Note 4, we can happily buy a new battery if the old one runs out; it's that simple. But as a normal Li Ion battery reaches it's shelf live after 2 or 3 years anyway, there's NO (!) need of burdening it and you with slow charge. The results are exactly the same, with the difference that you save precious time with fast charging.
And now allow me quoting again:
dont listen to fools.
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Have a nice day, all of you except one.
youre completely wrong.
The QuickCharge tech charges at higher VOLTAGE and AMPERAGE.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
Quick Charge 2.0
Voltages 5v 5v / 9v / 12v
Max Current 2A 3A
Snapdragon 200, 400, 410, 615, 800, 801, 805
The rest is just BS as usual. You have no idea what youre talking about. Dumping 9V (Samsung Note 4 AFC) into a 5V battery makes it charge hotter and faster and degrades it significantly. After two weeks of fast charge i lost a small chunk off the top of my brand new battery.
just bad advice as usual.
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youre completely wrong.
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Yes, indeed. I was completely wrong by believing you'd understand some simple things.
In fact, I am not sure if I should take your statements for serious or just for a joke.
The QuickCharge tech charges at higher VOLTAGE and AMPERAGE.
Voltages 5v 5v / 9v / 12v
Max Current 2A 3A
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So you REALLY believe that changes of the output voltage of the POWER SUPPLY lead to the BATTERY charged with more volts ?
You can't be serious. That's technically impossible.
Let's put it easy:
If you insert your power supply into a 110 V receptacle in the USA, you get 5 V output.
So according to your "logic", using the same power supply in Europe (230 V) increases the voltage to 10 V ?
No. Just NO.
That higher POWER SUPPLY voltage is used for fulfilling the rule W = V * A (Watt = Volt * Ampere); just to be able to squeeze more power through the power supply's cable.
In the Note 4 and in the charging circuit, that voltage OF COURSE will be regulated down to the regular charging voltage - just with the benefit to carry more amperes.
So the CHARGING VOLTAGE stays the same; it does NOT follow the voltage supplied by the POWER SUPPLY. It never does.
So fast charging does NOT (read that: NOT !) increase the charging voltage. It cannot.
Got that now ? - Or do I need to put it ever more simple ?
It does not help using swearing words like "fool" or "bull****".
But it could help just saying: "Oh, sorry, I was wrong. - My apologies."
Make yourself at home with the basics of lithium ion and charging technology. THEN speak up.
Ah, overlooked something:
After two weeks of fast charge i lost a small chunk off the top of my brand new battery.
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1) Hope that chunk fell somewhere you were able to pick it up again.
2) How to you KNOW that ? I expect a detailled description about how you did the magic of finding out that your battery doesn't charge to 100 %.
3) If you KNEW that fast charging would kill your battery, wise man - why did you allegedly use the feature ? - Sorry, man... Your statements are not very trustworthy. I guess you never used that feature, just say so to strengthen your shaky point of view. Please don't mess with a perception psychologist.
4) If your battery really suffered, that might be due to your highly acclaimed and absolutely pointless 14-hours-charging-marathons, causing a permanent charge on/charge off cycle, weakening your battery.
So please just stop bashing a real useful feature of the Note 4. If you just love waiting ages for batteries to charge - your preference. But please stop spreading false facts about things you very obviously are not at home with.
And a last thing which might stop that aimless harassing fire of yours: I am HAM, a licenced amateur radio operator, holding the highest German licence class. These are the people who know a bit about volts and amperes.
how hard is it for you to understand that quickcharge 2.0 outputs higher VOLTAGE and AMPERAGE to charge the battery ? The charger charges the BATTERY AT 9V 1.67A up to 50% and then switches over to the regular 5V 2A charge rate. INPUT VOLTAGE (110V or 230V) has nothing to do with OUTPUT VOLTAGE. It charges the battery at 9V REGARDLESS of INPUT VOLTAGE.
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also it has nothing to do with the cable. you must be crazy if you think a cable issue exists whether you transfer 15W or 10W across it. the cable is rated for well beyond that. the reason for the higher voltage is that modern lithium ions can accept high voltage charge rates with limited damage at low amperage. the reason they cut it off at 50% is the battery would be severely damaged if you tried to charge it to 100% and overshot. so yes quickcharge 2.0 really does charge your battery at a higher voltage than it was designed to be charged at. and no they dont have a magical transformer on your phone to go from 9V to 5V. otherwise they would be using it all the time and fast charge 9V to 100%. the wall plug is the only thing which has a transformer and the phone uses what it gets from there. they arent going to build half of another wall plug (9V DC-DC) and stuff it into the phone. it would generate heat and add bulk. Instead the PMIC "spikes" the battery with higher voltage and keeps it roughly constant (load modulation) by communicating with the quickcharge 2.0 AFC on the other end.
Hopeless.
I just love these battery threads, there's always some muppet who says the battery needs conditioning and must first be charged for a suitably ridiculous length of time. When it's charged it's charged, lithium batteries have no memory effect so the idea of conditioning them is moronic
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yes they have no memory effect. why ? because you say so.
other people believe otherwise because they actually test things out for themselves :
http://www.psi.ch/media/memory-effect-now-also-found-in-lithium-ion-batteries
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/03/li-ion-batteries-memory-effect
http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v12/n6/full/nmat3623.html
no need to keep it for 14 hours, as they said in the catalog you only need to charge it till it's full, then unplug the charger.
Hello again !
After all cooled down a bit, here's some more information about that dreaded HIGH VOLTAGE fast charging uses which seemingly makes some of you wet your pants.
First, there's an experiment you can do yourself. You don't need to do - but it's quite impressive and gives you some proof of the things I say.
Get two 9 V batteries; the small rectangle ones we all know. Connect the positive contact of the first battery with the negative contact of the second. Thus you get an 18 volts DC power source.
Get a thin, isolated wire, short-circuit the open contacts with the wire. Wait.
Nothing special will happen, maybe the wire will get a little warm - and your batteries will eventually die.
(If you use a VERY thing wires, it might heat up.)
Now take a length of the same wire, do the same using your car's battery (12 – 13.8 V DC).
WARNING !
1) Take the battery out of the car, set it on solid ground with nothing combustible near !!! Do NOT try this with the battery still in the car !!!
2) Use pliers to connect the wire with the battery contacts !!!
3) Do that OUTDOORS !!!
Short-circuit the battery contacts using the pliers with the wire.
You don't need to wait. The cable will turn into a smoking, burning, white-hot thing in an instant.
Huh ? - We've got 18 V with just nothing happening, we've got just 12 V wreaking instant havoc and destruction !?
Amperage is the key !
Voltage alone does not cause the destruction, it's the amperage.
9 V batteries cannot provide sufficient amperes for killing the wire; 12 V car batteries do.
Short: High amperage kills wires, high voltage doesn't.
So back to our topic...
To fast charge our Note 4's battery, we need power, watts. But the tiny wires in the Note 4 can't withstand a high wattage; they would heat up like the wire connected to the 12 V car battery.
So Samsung uses a little trick, according to Ohm's law: W = V * A, W is watts, V is volts, A is amperes.
So we can achieve a high wattage by EITHER using a higher voltage OR a higher amperage.
Higher amperage does not work because it will kill the tiny wires in the Note.
So Samsung raised the voltage for carrying more watts from the power supply via the internal Note 4's cabling to the charging circuit.
That higher voltage gets transformed down to the normal charging voltage at the charging circuit.
Your battery is charged with the usual voltage, but with the benefits of a higher amperage.
That's all the magic: That higher voltage is used to carry more wattage to the charging circuit, but not beyond. Nothing else.
And that's why it does not harm your battery; charging voltage will not change - your battery just gets charged faster, always monitored by the charging circuit which will lower the charge accordingly if needed, so your battery will always be safe. That's why the "last mile" (charge from about 92 % to 100 %) takes more time to charge - because the charging circuit automatically lowers the charge to protect your battery.
So don't be afraid of that higher voltage; it never reaches your battery, it is just a means for transferring higher wattage via tiny wires.
Note: You ever wondered why Europeans use 230 V instead of 110 V ? - That's the reason. Being able to carry more watts over regular power lines without risking the wires heating up too much. It's not a means of destruction, it's the opposite.
I have a questions about the fast charge block, is there anything special about it? Are there any electronics in it or does it just put out enough amperage to support fast charging?
It puts out higher voltage than normal.
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It puts out higher voltage than normal.
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And has additional circuitry that talks to the circuitry in the phone to determine if the phone supports fast charge or not, and additional capabilities to monitor battery level and taper off both voltage and current as the battery gets closer to full charge.
Hi
we have the transformer with 1.8 mAh but this is quick charge 3.0.
So what is the max amperage that LG G6 can support?
thank you all
I saw max 2.5A incoming according to Ampere and Battery monitor widget.
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I saw max 2.5A incoming according to Ampere and Battery monitor widget.
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is it an app?
overall speed depends on voltage too (higher amperage is good, and higher voltage is good too)
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overall speed depends on voltage too (higher amperage is good, and higher voltage is good too)
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Yeah this is right but all elettronic components have a threshold. If you exceed the limit the components burn. So this is the question. What is this limit?
On the charger there is 1.8 mAh for current. But my powebank have 2.1 mAh for the output. So the LG G6 support this amperage?
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is it an app?
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Yes, you can find both of the apps on Play store.
varefaz said:
Yeah this is right but all elettronic components have a threshold. If you exceed the limit the components burn. So this is the question. What is this limit?
On the charger there is 1.8 mAh for current. But my powebank have 2.1 mAh for the output. So the LG G6 support this amperage?
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Well, kind of. The phone will not draw more current than it is able to handle. Using a power source that's capable of 2.1A will not hurt a device that can only draw 1A. The rating of your powerbank is merely the maximum current it can supply while maintaining its rated voltage.
See this article that shows how the phone is smart and will vary the current (amps) that it pulls from the charger, and will be careful to protect the battery and not pull too much current as the battery reaches full charge:
https://gtrusted.com/the-lg-g6-charger-uses-qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0-instead-of-usb-power-delivery
Example snippet from the article: "while the current jumps around before settling at 1.7 amps (this delivering 15.3 watts). ... In the first 60 minutes of charging, the voltage stays at 9 volts while the current steps several times down to 1.3 amps"
G6 charging slow
My g6 is charging crazy slow no matter what...I use amperage app and I can only get out to draw 800mah, no matter what I plug into.(2.1a etc)...doesthis mean I should replace its battery or what?
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My g6 is charging crazy slow no matter what...I use amperage app and I can only get out to draw 800mah, no matter what I plug into.(2.1a etc)...doesthis mean I should replace its battery or what?
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If your screen is on, the charging current decreases to max 800mA so the battery won't overheat during charging and phone usage.
If the screen is off for longer period of time and the phone still is charging slowly, it is usually caused by warm phone or environment OR heavy tasks performing in background. If none of these conditions apply to your case then (unless you are using original charger and original cable included in the box) it might be something wrong with the phone.
I have USB port tester from AliExpress and I made some tests of charging currents and voltage on my BlitzWolf BW-S5 charger as it's QuickCharge 3.0 certified charger.
With the screen off, the phone does ramp up the voltage starting from 5V. The steps are 200mV every couple of seconds. It's absolutely in line with QuickCharge 3.0 specification BUT! the phone ramps up only to 9V and then stops. It never reached 12V - maximum QC3.0 voltage.
I did plenty of tests and the voltage always stayed at 9V.
Also the current never reached QC3.0's 9V's maximum value of 2A. It usually was around 1,5A-1,8A.
I even placed my phone in the fridge a couple of times, no result
So my opinion is G6 is QuickCharge... 2.5 compatible? Voltage stepping from QC3.0 applies to our phones but either voltage or current does not match QC3.0 maximum values that can be pushed to the phone.
Also charging with original LG charger included in the box and BlitzWolf charger takes almost the same amount of time. Sometimes LG is faster, sometimes BlitzWolf is faster.