To start out, I just purchased a beautiful 60" Panasonic Viera Plasma for $699.99. It has no SmartTV functionality so I thought I would give Google a search about how to bypass this issue. Well, surely enough Android sticks popped up left and right. After seeing a bit of the same sticks over and over, I became familiar with some popular sticks such as the MK808, MK809, iMito MX1, iMito MX2, etc. etc. Now my concern is that which of ALL the Android sticks have the best stability in terms of WiFi. I've seen a lot of posts all around forums and other websites about WiFi not working after a week or a month or that the Android Stick is not capable of streaming videos all day. Which brings up my point of which stick/box should I settle with? I prefer something under $100 but if it means Toyota reliability and that stick/box is over $100, then I'll take it. I am only buying this stick because my mom loves to watch Asian dramas on her iPad but she has no idea how to use a computer (she's 65 this year) so this will be her first step of using something a bit more complex vs. her current iPad.
I was going to settle for the iMito MX2 but I thought posting a thread and letting the experts decide which would be a better suit for me would be ideal.
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I agree with the above even though I don't own the device. I have an MK808 and wifi had 1-2 bars when in the same room as my router.
Wifi mods are super easy to do if your creative... but out of the box I heard the box above is more at the top end of these sticks.
The MX series (1 and 2) are good too. The MK808 seems the fastest but definitely has its wifi issues out of the box. I believe they have a 3rd revision that corrects some of the wifi problems but still runs on the weak side.
Make note that the above is an android box and not a stick.
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Minix Neo X5
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I agree with the above even though I don't own the device. I have an MK808 and wifi had 1-2 bars when in the same room as my router.
Wifi mods are super easy to do if your creative... but out of the box I heard the box above is more at the top end of these sticks.
The MX series (1 and 2) are good too. The MK808 seems the fastest but definitely has its wifi issues out of the box. I believe they have a 3rd revision that corrects some of the wifi problems but still runs on the weak side.
Make note that the above is an android box and not a stick.
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Okay, so that's the most stable Android box? What about the Zealz GK802? That goes for the same price but it is a QUAD core vs. the Minix Neo X5's dual core. Plus what's the main differences between a box and stick other than the form factor?
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Okay, so that's the most stable Android box? What about the Zealz GK802? That goes for the same price but it is a QUAD core vs. the Minix Neo X5's dual core. Plus what's the main differences between a box and stick other than the form factor?
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Rock chip performs better than the quad in the zealz.
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Okay, so that's the most stable Android box? What about the Zealz GK802? That goes for the same price but it is a QUAD core vs. the Minix Neo X5's dual core. Plus what's the main differences between a box and stick other than the form factor?
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Zealz GK802 is badly supported with the current Firmeware - there is a new FW expected to be published by end of February. Currently I would not recommend to buy the GK802. I do have a GK802 and a MK808 - I'm using the MK808... and waiting for the next FW for the Zeals and I'll give it another try.
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Zealz GK802 is badly supported with the current Firmeware - there is a new FW expected to be published by end of February. Currently I would not recommend to buy the GK802. I do have a GK802 and a MK808 - I'm using the MK808... and waiting for the next FW for the Zeals and I'll give it another try.
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bought a $35 UG802 from Amazon 2 weeks ago. Wifi was awful. Opened it up and saw a nice WIFI antenna in there trapped in the case. made a small hole in the case to allow the cable and Antenna to be outside and WOW. I now get 5 bars and my download on speedtest.net went from 3.5mbps to 28mbps (out of a 33max possible).
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Okay, so that's the most stable Android box? What about the Zealz GK802? That goes for the same price but it is a QUAD core vs. the Minix Neo X5's dual core. Plus what's the main differences between a box and stick other than the form factor?
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I think the you would be better off with the x5 I don't know how well android works with quad core, as for box v's stick the box will have more ports like USB and network with mic and audio on it as will. If it a stick look at MINIX neo g4 WiFi work great on it and some custom Roms are showing up now...
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I think the you would be better off with the x5 I don't know how well android works with quad core, as for box v's stick the box will have more ports like USB and network with mic and audio on it as will. If it a stick look at MINIX neo g4 WiFi work great on it and some custom Roms are showing up now...
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Now my choices are between the MINIX X5 or the MINIX Neo G4. The G4 is priced at $62 with free 2 day shipping with shop runner or the X5 which is priced at $92 with 2 day shipping with shop runner. I also have 5% cash back with discover too. So... decisions, decisions. I want something that lasts for at least 1-3 years. My mom's going to be watching dramas on it everyday for at least 5 hours+.
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Now my choices are between the MINIX X5 or the MINIX Neo G4. The G4 is priced at $62 with free 2 day shipping with shop runner or the X5 which is priced at $92 with 2 day shipping with shop runner. I also have 5% cash back with discover too. So... decisions, decisions. I want something that lasts for at least 1-3 years. My mom's going to be watching dramas on it everyday for at least 5 hours+.
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The 30 bucks buys you a better device with built in Bluetooth, faster CPU, more storage,more usb ports a lot more custom ROM development...
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The 30 bucks buys you a better device with built in Bluetooth, faster CPU, more storage,more usb ports a lot more custom ROM development...
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Alright the X5 it is then. Haha I'm going to order it now. It will be here Thursday.
I'm sold too!
I've a Flexiview FV1 and was looking for to upgrade to Ug007 or MK809 II, but I see the iMito MX2 and Minix NEO X5 are better options, so after reading the whole thread, I think I'll order a minix neo x5
neeeed more!!!!
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Alright the X5 it is then. Haha I'm going to order it now. It will be here Thursday.
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I've heard bad things about Rockchip processors - closed source and all that. Currently playing with the ATV1200, XBMC has hardware decoding, although it's not perfect yet.
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I've heard bad things about Rockchip processors - closed source and all that. Currently playing with the ATV1200, XBMC has hardware decoding, although it's not perfect yet.
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If my memory helps, Rockchip accounts 99% of the android settop boxes market...
Which is why I went with the ATV, it has an open source processor
k3u I'm curious how this turned out for you? Did you get it yet?
MK812
http://miniandroidpc.com/shop/mk812-dual-core-a9-mini-pc-with-camera-microphone-bluetooth
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MK812
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That sure is tempting...
Post 2 is from the guy that builds ROMs for all these devices
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?3813-Currently-what-is-best&highlight=mk812
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A the title says Asus announced a quad core Nvidia tegra 3 tablet ,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-unveils-transformer-2-at-asiad/ personally if I get icecream sandwich I won't upgrade . What do you think ?
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Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.
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Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.
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like you I'm very tempted esp after seeing the pics of the new Transformer Prime. If I don't do an impulsive purchase, I'll wait to see if Samsung is going to release a Quadcore GTab.
If it's thinner, lighter and price-wise = or cheaper than the GT then hell yeah!
not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312195
Maybe in a year or two, but I don't feel the need to update just because there's a newer faster Tablet on the horizon. I bought my Tab for what it's capable of doing right now.
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not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
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On the emulator they found the tablet interface so ICS IS DESIGNED FOR TABLETS ALSO see the vudeo on engadget
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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.
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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.
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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I could care less about the display honestly
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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.
If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined.
Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
In my opinion, the TF is a different class of product to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which is a definitely a "purer" tablet experience, and in general I do prefer my GT10.1 over my TF.
However, when I go on vacation next week, I will probably leave my GT10.1 at home, and take the Asus TF with dock instead because of the advantages the dock brings.
If the new TF can bring the tablet experience of the GT10.1, with the flexibility of the TF dock, I'm sold.
Regards,
Dave
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.
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I have got the uk 3g here in Egypt from Vodafone official store and I liked the black back allot more valuable than both metallic and write backs, thanks for your reply and wating for your comparison between the two versions
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
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I wouldn't call it "crappy" but I'd say it's pretty average. I looked at all the tablets before buying the G-Tab and none of them were as refined h/w wise. The Transformer's I played with all creaked and the display wan't as good as the G-Tab. Friends have Transformer's and some have had to either exchange them or send them in for service for various h/w issues. (And I know, the G-Tab has Newton rings but it hasn't effected my two or those owned by friends.)
is it not scaring any of you that quad cores are coming so fast.. it means google and the manifacturers did not even give their tablets a year to sit on their thrones (not even a half year for many ones).. it gives me the fear of being outdated "abnormally fast" (please mind that statement=abnormally fast) no matter what i buy... and now there is the risk for our tegra 2 tablets not to get ICS.. it also scares me to be outdated easily again.. i mean, if the biggest rival apple is still caring about their iphone 3gs even after 2 more new models, what manifacturers are doing sounds so nokia-ish (like giving birth to many children but not caring about their growing).. is it not?
No plans on switching. Waiting for ICS update and I will be happy.
Regarding TF201 I don't really fancy the "rings" used on on the back and the bezel that is big. But it got better battery with the dock (hence the big bezel).
Love my Galaxy Tab and wouldn't trade it for a Transformer.
The tab I want next is based on these factors:
- form: how thin and portable is it
- display: must be vivid and sharp, no les than samsung quality
- expansion: absolute must. itis the single place the STab failed on for me
- price: has to be market price or better, no first adopter prices please
- processor: the more powerful a processor you get, the less likley you will need to upgarde for a longer term
I will hold no loyalty to a brand, but some brands do things better insome areas than others. For now, the Asus pad, at least visually, looks pretty sweet.
If the quad/tegra3 can play my 1080p mkv content off my portable hard drive while connected to a HDTV with the HDMI cable plugged in then I'm sold.
As of right now when I bring movies home to my parents for my dad to watch I still have to use my bulky laptop. I got the tab in hopes I could decrease my travel weight. Alas I've only added as now I bring my tab AND my laptop.
So sad.
I currently have TF Prime and I wanted to use it in car but as everybody knows its not the greatest for GPS use so I was thinking about either picking up A510 or Toshiba Excite 10.
Any recommendations? Also for people who have used both (TF Prime and A510), what is your opinion about the two.
I live my a510, the gps and wifi are excellent. Only issue us the bottom right hand corner gets a Lil warm. I only tried the prime in stores but I definitely don't regret my decision.dint know much about excite but Toshiba and tablets?
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The a700 just got announced, take a look at that
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The a700 just got announced, take a look at that
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Seems to be the exact same thing as A510 but with high res screen.
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Seems to be the exact same thing as A510 but with high res screen.
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Same price too, only different battery life difference
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Same price too, only different battery life difference
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Got the A510 from Amazon two days ago but still haven't opened it as I also preordered A700 and now trying to decide which one to keep
Here's my 2 cents worth..... am totally happy with my A500 which I have owned for about 14 months now.
The other day in Office Depot I was able to get my hands on a Toshiba Excite10 and was pretty impressed in the short time I was able to use it. I like the hardware i.e. it's so very slim and light almost makes my A500 feel like a laptop. The price is good considering it's a full Tegra 3 tablet running ICS out of the box. Several reviews I have seen talk about colour "washout" around the perimeter of the display but I honestly didn't notice that..... to be fair though I only had it in my hands a short time and couldn't really give it a full workout.
It's disappointing that it does not have a full size USB connector but more a problem I think is the fact that it will not recognize the NTFS file system so if you connect an external H/D you'll have to format it in FAT. No problem if you are starting out with a clean H/D but if like me you've already got many movies and backups etc on a NTFS H/D then that's a lot of work to do it all again.
All in all the Excite10 is a very nice looking tab which will suit a lot of people.
They just now started getting the 510's in Moscow. Still holding out for a 3g version though.
Hi guys I was consider the idea of getting a tablet I would normally want a tablet as for media but I'm also a student so I came across note 10.1 and liked the s pen but recently I came across the xperia tablet z that is absolutely nice and it's a newer device the thing I'd that note 10.1 is a bit old and I'm don't want to throw a lot of money assuming the note successor will be very expensive, anyway right now there's a 50 dollars difference between the two wifi models in amazon so any suggestions?
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I recommend either buying the Tablet Z now or wait for successor to the Note 10.1. Unless you really need a tablet with an s pen now.
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I recommend either buying the Tablet Z now or wait for successor to the Note 10.1. Unless you really need a tablet with an s pen now.
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I think Samsung have a presentation for new stuff at June 10, they might show it there. The Note 10.1 is almost a year old now I think ?
/Edit: It's June 20. June 10 is Apple.
I'm a student, I've thought the same thing. Honestly what made me order the Xperia Tablet Z is the design. I can't stand Samsungs cheap plasticky design, and its UI is absolutely horrible. The S pen is the only reason to consider it, but when testing I learned that I can write just as fast with the swype-function on the Sony device.
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I'm a student, I've thought the same thing. Honestly what made me order the Xperia Tablet Z is the design. I can't stand Samsungs cheap plasticky design, and its UI is absolutely horrible. The S pen is the only reason to consider it, but when testing I learned that I can write just as fast with the swype-function on the Sony device.
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But what about te fórmula recognition feature and al the other things like multiscreen?
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But what about te fórmula recognition feature and al the other things like multiscreen?
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It depends. Not everybody needs it. However, for me, multi-window is very interesting and have an edge when comparing to any other tablets (except Win8 Intel tabs, but you know, normal window's apps are not touch optimized)
I have had the Tab Z since Friday, and the Note 10.1 since it launched in the USA.
Tab Z without any hesitation... The S-Pen is neat at first, but gets to be "eh whatever" pretty quickly. Samsung's ****ty UI skin makes the tablet look ugly as ****, sound awful, and slows it down significantly. On top of that, if you're here on XDA, you probably care about development, and the Note 10.1 had next to no development for it, partly because Samsung didn't bother to comply with the GPL and released kernel source that didn't match what was running on the device at all. It took me two weeks to get a working wifi driver on source-built kernels.
If you care about CyanogenMod at all - the choice is obvious. All of the former Exynos4 CM maintainers are mostly retired from Exynos4 work, and I can tell you, of the two Note 10.1 maintainers, one (espenfjo) is currently retired from CM work, and the other (myself) has barely touched the unit in 2-3 months. Meanwhile, two of the four former Exynos4 maintainers have the Tablet Z, and a few other CM maintainers do too, with more likely to come.
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I have had the Tab Z since Friday, and the Note 10.1 since it launched in the USA.
Tab Z without any hesitation... The S-Pen is neat at first, but gets to be "eh whatever" pretty quickly. Samsung's ****ty UI skin makes the tablet look ugly as ****, sound awful, and slows it down significantly. On top of that, if you're here on XDA, you probably care about development, and the Note 10.1 had next to no development for it, partly because Samsung didn't bother to comply with the GPL and released kernel source that didn't match what was running on the device at all. It took me two weeks to get a working wifi driver on source-built kernels.
If you care about CyanogenMod at all - the choice is obvious. All of the former Exynos4 CM maintainers are mostly retired from Exynos4 work, and I can tell you, of the two Note 10.1 maintainers, one (espenfjo) is currently retired from CM work, and the other (myself) has barely touched the unit in 2-3 months. Meanwhile, two of the four former Exynos4 maintainers have the Tablet Z, and a few other CM maintainers do too, with more likely to come.
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I agree with your points of view. I'm also quite interested in future development and I hope more and more devs get the Tablet Z. Entropy, I think I've read in the XTZ AOSP forum (CM 10.1 thread, specifically) that you might check the CM port for our WIFi-only devices, am I right? :fingers-crossed: I hope I am. Pretty much only LTE support for now.
Greetings.
I wouldn't recommend anyone buy any tablet other than the N10 or XTZ tbh
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I wouldn't recommend anyone buy any tablet other than the N10 or XTZ tbh
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What about nexus 10?
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What about nexus 10?
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Sorry by N10 I meant NEXUS 10 rather than Note
I think the Note is probably powerful enough but has a low res screen, something like the transformer infinity has the resolution but Tegra 3 doesn't cut it at 1080p.
Both the Nexus 10 and Tablet Z are powerful with high res screens.
New Transformer with Tegra 4 is announced now, which is probably more powerful than both and has similar res to the Nexus 10.
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Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/a...-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/a...d-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?
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O think the prices are very interesting but as you say asus doesn't give me the confidence of Sony, indeed the infinity has better specs but I think their updates will be even worse than Sony, besides tablet z's design is nicer although I think they need to lower the price to be able to compete as Toshiba has also launched two powerful devices
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I agree with your points of view. I'm also quite interested in future development and I hope more and more devs get the Tablet Z. Entropy, I think I've read in the XTZ AOSP forum (CM 10.1 thread, specifically) that you might check the CM port for our WIFi-only devices, am I right? :fingers-crossed: I hope I am. Pretty much only LTE support for now.
Greetings.
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Yup. I'm probably going to start poking at it tonight.
better sound that kindle fire hd. i think it´s Impossible. say what you think
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Yup. I'm probably going to start poking at it tonight.
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That's great! I still don't have my XTZ (will arrive in a week or so), but as soon as I get it I'll do whatever I can to help, which would be pretty much only the testing part. Not a developer myself. :crying:
Thanks, Entropy. :good:
Greetings.
I would wait for the next model of whatever Sony got, I know ppl keep saying better hardware come out every time in 6 months but, their new DUO 13 is TRILUMINOS display, looks like all their flagship products from this point forward are all TRILUMINOS.
lol the mods close a thread and make you go here that is not even the same...pass..
Anyother.. yeah I stopped at 25 other tabs and as you can see no one came over here to keep talking. Like saying..go away.. no proplem
MobileTechReview comparison of XTZ and N10
Lisa Gade, who I've noticed visiting these forums, has a nice comparison between the XTZ and the Nexus 10. It's pretty consistent with my own impressions: N10 is a great value and pure Android; XTZ has more bells and whistles and appeals to people (like me) who put a premium on things like weight...
Here's a link to the review:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=44801
I've finally given up on trying to create some type of hybrid tablet/laptop with my Nexus 10.
Now, I'm looking for ideas on a Windows 8-based hybrid tablet/laptop that will give me the ability to detach the screen, if needed for the tablet feel, but still retain the standard laptop function.
I know that this description is very general, but I'm hopeful that if I get a few ideas here, it will help me focus better. My price point is <U.S. $1,000 if possible.
Any ideas to get me started would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Well, the Surface Pro would be an obvious candidate, but for the price. I assume you want x86... sub-1k x86 tablets are mostly going to be Atom CPUs, which are... "competitive with ARM chips such as you'd find in the iPad" is probably the nicest way to put it, although that's true on both perf and power consumption (higher-end CPUs will be much worse on power usage and cooling need).
If you've got a Microsoft Store nearby, that's a good place to go and see the various tablet models, try them out a bit, and (if you'd like) buy one knowing that it's free of the garbage that OEMs usually dump on their systems. If you don't have such a store, there's always options like Best Buy or Fry's or similar.
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Well, the Surface Pro would be an obvious candidate, but for the price. I assume you want x86... sub-1k x86 tablets are mostly going to be Atom CPUs, which are... "competitive with ARM chips such as you'd find in the iPad" is probably the nicest way to put it, although that's true on both perf and power consumption (higher-end CPUs will be much worse on power usage and cooling need).
If you've got a Microsoft Store nearby, that's a good place to go and see the various tablet models, try them out a bit, and (if you'd like) buy one knowing that it's free of the garbage that OEMs usually dump on their systems. If you don't have such a store, there's always options like Best Buy or Fry's or similar.
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Hello.
Thanks for the plentiful info!
I've read about the Surface Pro. As with anything, lots of pro's & con's. I've also been looking at Lenovo, ASUS, & Dell.
Frankly, you've got me with the ARM &CPU data.
I totally understand your rationale for visiting stores &taking a test drive.
Sorry I wasn't able to provide more substantial feedback but the hybrid world is totally new to me!
Thanks.
P.S. I'm planning on selling my Nexus 10 (less than year old).
Any ideas on conduits to sell?
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Samsung and Asus both make windows 8 tablets with a keyboard dock that is similar to the Asus Transformer. With the dock it basically becomes a full fledged laptop. And at least one of the docks has an extra battery and storage in it to make your device last even longer. Both are under $1k. No need to build your own
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Censura_Umbra said:
Samsung and Asus both make windows 8 tablets with a keyboard dock that is similar to the Asus Transformer. With the dock it basically becomes a full fledged laptop. And at least one of the docks has an extra battery and storage in it to make your device last even longer. Both are under $1k. No need to build your own
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both are also atom == low performance. Although that might suffice for the OP.
Upside to atom, long battery life, cheaper, tablet can be slimmer and lighter plus it doesn't get so warm so no fans.
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both are also atom == low performance. Although that might suffice for the OP.
Upside to atom, long battery life, cheaper, tablet can be slimmer and lighter plus it doesn't get so warm so no fans.
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Bingo! You nailed it. I'll take a look at all of the ones you mentioned.
Curious question though. Why did you separate the Transformer from the other two?
Tx!
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Because the transformer is android not windows, and android can't replace windows/mac yet
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Because the transformer is android not windows, and android can't replace windows/mac yet
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Got it. I totally forgot that about the Transformer. Tx
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Because the transformer is android not windows, and android can't replace windows/mac yet
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Can you suggest one or two Samsung & ASUS models. I've been using Google, etc but just can't find the ones with detachable keyboards. Tx
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Best buy has an exclusive model of the HP Envy-X2 which has an i5 processor and 4gb of ram and includes an attachable keyboard with extended battery for only $650-700
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Best buy has an exclusive model of the HP Envy-X2 which has an i5 processor and 4gb of ram and includes an attachable keyboard with extended battery for only $650-700
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Thanks for the tip!
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I'm actually in the same situation. Nexus 10 lacking any functionality as a tablet worth anything more than watching youtube videos.
I picked up (still waiting for it to arrive) the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2. Although it's atom, I really don't need to use it for anything that needs an i5. I'll be using it for PDF and eBook annotation, taking notes with the awesome Wacom digitizer, and word processing. Also the stuff I used my Nexus 10 for.
I got it brand new for 475. It has a bluetooth keyboard dock of sorts, it just isn't quite the dock like the Samsung Ativ is. Honestly, it'll do what I'm looking for it to do. The people complaining of performance are the ones buying it with the expectation of it replacing their laptop or competing with the i5 processors. You're getting a lot more mobility and battery life with the atom tablets.
It all comes down to your needs. Do you need power for some power hungry legacy apps or gaming? Or do you need a companion to your PC/laptop for school or work for note taking and media consumption?
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Thanks for the tip!
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Split+x...pp02-134?id=1219018164751&skuId=9432051&st=hp split x2&cp=1&lp=1
The hp envy x2 has an atom processor and is 11.6". The hp split x2 is an i3 hybrid with a 13.3" screen. This is, I think, is the best one you can go for right now.
And don't let the word "atom" fool you. I've written and published 2 apps using nothing but the envy x2 and visual studio. Most people don't give this device a fair chance. It is actually quite powerful.
Oh yes that is the one. Sorry got my specs a bit messed up. And yes the atoms will certainly do what you need. But don't expect too much multitasking. It will work fine one app at a time
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I'm actually in the same situation. Nexus 10 lacking any functionality as a tablet worth anything more than watching youtube videos.
I picked up (still waiting for it to arrive) the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2. Although it's atom, I really don't need to use it for anything that needs an i5. I'll be using it for PDF and eBook annotation, taking notes with the awesome Wacom digitizer, and word processing. Also the stuff I used my Nexus 10 for.
I got it brand new for 475. It has a bluetooth keyboard dock of sorts, it just isn't quite the dock like the Samsung Ativ is. Honestly, it'll do what I'm looking for it to do. The people complaining of performance are the ones buying it with the expectation of it replacing their laptop or competing with the i5 processors. You're getting a lot more mobility and battery life with the atom tablets.
It all comes down to your needs. Do you need power for some power hungry legacy apps or gaming? Or do you need a companion to your PC/laptop for school or work for note taking and media consumption?
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Thanks much for your very informative review of the Lenovo. Will check it out.
Just so I don't lead anyone astray on my intended use. My current laptop is part of my home network, just as my Nexus is. I use it primarily to work on spreadsheets, (Word) documents, etc. I don't play games or listen to a lot of music on it. The Nexus actually does a better job when I watch videos or live TV from my cable provider! Hope this helps.
Oh, a screen larger than 11" would be nice.
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Split+x...pp02-134?id=1219018164751&skuId=9432051&st=hp split x2&cp=1&lp=1
The hp envy x2 has an atom processor and is 11.6". The hp split x2 is an i3 hybrid with a 13.3" screen. This is, I think, is the best one you can go for right now.
And don't let the word "atom" fool you. I've written and published 2 apps using nothing but the envy x2 and visual studio. Most people don't give this device a fair chance. It is actually quite powerful.
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Thanks for the additional info. Got a bit of homework to do!
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Thanks for the additional info. Got a bit of homework to do!
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I spent about 30 hours researching everything before I made my purchase. I feel exhausted just thinking about it!
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I spent about 30 hours researching everything before I made my purchase. I feel exhausted just thinking about it!
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I hear you!
Did you happen to check out the Lenovo IdeaPad Lynx?
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I hear you!
Did you happen to check out the Lenovo IdeaPad Lynx?
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I didn't, only because I wanted a 10 inch tablet. The Nexus 10 size is perfect for my needs and anything bigger won't work for me.
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I didn't, only because I wanted a 10 inch tablet. The Nexus 10 size is perfect for my needs and anything bigger won't work for me.
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Got it. Since I wanted to go the 'full' hybrid route, I was looking for as much screen as possible.
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The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase.
I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4, which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch count on its display , 2.3 ghz quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory.
Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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The Nexus 9 is way too expensive.
I have a 2012 Nexus 7, which is still going strong.
I am about at the point that I will be making another tablet purchase. I will likely go with Samsung's Tab Pro 8.4 which I have recently seen at Best Buy for between $ 240 and $ 280, depending on whats on sale that week.
The tab pro 8.4 gets great reviews and is very competitive spec-wize.; it has a higher res rear cam, higher pixels per inch, 2.3 gig quad-core processor, and a micro sd slot for augmenting memory. Its only short coming is the Touchwiz UI.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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Nvidia Shield is the best tablet you can buy. Close to stock android. Quad-core 2.2 GHz Cortex-A15, GPU ULP GeForce Kepler (192 cores), Full HD Screen, Timely updates, 2gb of Ram. Has amazing reviews. Can be a normal tablet for everyday use or gaming.
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What's the dev support like?
scottharris4 said:
What's the dev support like?
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Not good at all
theres still no custom kernel for it
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Yeah I know, I developed a bunch of ROM's for it. Had to do blind tests since I don't have it.
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Don't throw away your money on the Tab Pro 8.4. Samsung has basically abandoned that tablet and it's not even a year old yet. Great specs, sure, but it's also kinda laggy because of Touchwiz. I'm actually looking at getting the Nexus 9 because of this.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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I would agree that they have abandoned it in favor of the Tab S, but how does that affect its usefulness?
I put CyanongenMod on my Tab Pro and it was great. I would have figured few people on this forum keep their devices stock, but to each is own. I will concede that Touchwiz is just OK.
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It will mean that getting future custom ROMs could be potentially compromised because (1) Samsung may not release stuff that is needed for these ROMs, and (2) how many devs (which there aren't many to begin with) are going to want to keep putting in work to an "obsolete" device.
Anyone saying that other tablets are "comparable spec wise" either forgot about the 64-bit CPU or they are likely underestimating the effect it will have on performance. Unless you are considering a different tablet with either a Denver K1 or Snapdragon 810 there is probably no point in comparing it to the Nexus 9.
This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
I even consider buying a iPad Mini 2 (only £329 for 32GB) given the iPad Mini 3 is not much of an upgrade to this and not worth buying.
But being a Nexus Fanboy, I'll probably will get a N9 and say Goodbye for my slow & laggy N10.
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iPad Air 2 16GB cost the same as a Nexus 9 32GB...
that's just too expensive
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What did you even expect from a new device coming out this late?
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It's not so bad if you can add more or don't need much space, or prefer to blindly trust on Google's storage and have an unfailing internet connection. Otherwise it's kinda sad and 2012-ish. The price isn't right for that little storage.
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You can always use OTG. I am almost always near a WiFi connection so I should be fine. I have a grandfathered Unlimited T-Mo plan without hotspot but I want to see if I can bypass that. All my media will be coming off my server computer and apps shouldn't be that much space.
Please do your home work on the nvidia shield tablet!!!
It has been known of self cracking corners! Plenty of customers on here, I was one of them!!! even with the second batch and LTE version
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Very poor WiFi!
And losses charge whilst on charge. Suss that one out?
I had one and sent it back after a week!
It could of been a very good tablet. But has some very big issues!
There are only a couple of very hard working devs over there as development stands.
But sadly the shield is a big flop. Really is a shame!!!!!!
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This is the most powerful tablet on the market. It is also the first 64-bit android tab. It will also get updates first. $399 for a 16gb isn't so bad
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For me it is bad. $399 screams highend and it should have had 32GB at that price point. But even that sounds bad. Should have been $300 for 16GB and $350 for 32GB.
Hate to bring up iPad's around here but a new retina mini cost $299 at 16GB. If you're not into rooting/hacking it looks pretty decent compared to these prices. Point being it won't take long for prices to drop on this new Nexus 9. I wouldn't be surprised to see these hit the refurb bins at $250 to $300 in 6 months. That's how I got my 2013 Nexus 7 for $130.
how about Xiaomi Mi pad?!
did u think about xiaomi's mi pad?! it has the same cpu and gpu. but at lower price.64 gb version is about 340$.also have the same size of Ipad mini2 and all the accessories of ipad mini2 fits to this one..from the Dev side of this tablet i dont know alot.but i know nvidia quickly turn behind to its cpu and products..i have htc one x..i waited a lot for some good games that never showed up!by the way i have ifive mini 3gs..i am very satisfied.. mi pad was my choice but i needed sim card slot so i bought this ifive.. Mi pad is a very good tablet..think about it :good:
I honestly believe that for what you get with the nexus 9 that it's going to be a decent deal.
I just bought a galaxy tab s 10.5 and am debating on buying the nexus 9 as my living room tablet.
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Nexus 7 sucks, can't wait for nexus 9
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My Nexus 7 is still as smooth as the day I bought it