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Gameloft games (unfortunately) treat our nexus 7 as mid-end to low-end device. This can be seen in Asphalt 7 (missing car reflections, environment looks like crap), NOVA 3 (no smoke, no particles, no "heat" from gun after shooting) and others.
I know on older phones simply installing chainfire would trick these games into thinking they are running on some high-end device; however, as chainfire does not work for us, do you guys know of any alternative way to get the full graphics we deserve?
They need to optimise for tegra. I have tried a few hings but no luck.
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Gameloft games (unfortunately) treat our nexus 7 as mid-end to low-end device. This can be seen in Asphalt 7 (missing car reflections, environment looks like crap), NOVA 3 (no smoke, no particles, no "heat" from gun after shooting) and others.
I know on older phones simply installing chainfire would trick these games into thinking they are running on some high-end device; however, as chainfire does not work for us, do you guys know of any alternative way to get the full graphics we deserve?
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If you look at nova 3 for instance, I'm afraid those high end settings would slow the game to a crawl at times. Even now it gets choppy sometimes.
Like leelaa said, they seem to be completely ignoring the tegra crowd, even while all other devs are catching up and catering to this rapidly expanding platform.
I know the framerate is not perfect, but I would still like to experience the full potential of the games. Hopefully a solution will appear soon.
update: I think I managed to worsen the NOVA 3 graphics using this build.prop values:
ro.product.model=SPH-L710
ro.product.brand=samsung
ro.product.name=d2spr
ro.product.device=d2spr
any idea what are Samsung Galaxy S3 values (the exynos version)? Maybe that will enable the full graphics!
I want to buy a tablet for playing games, but I also need it to handle 3G, have some decent GPS and a camera. Since Nexus doesn't have 3G, a decent GPS (it doesn't have GLONASS) and a rear camera I'm not happy with it (I can buy 3G modem, but with other things there's not much I can do), but I read that it is totally awesome when it comes to games.
So my question is: is it? I presume it has access to some Tegra3 exclusive games, but are there so many of them and are they unique enough to make me care? Also, since it's Tegra3 it probably handles most games better than older devices, but do higher details and more FPS compensate for small screen? I wonder whether to buy some 10 inch tablet instead (eg. Galaxy Tab 2 P5100, Acer Iconia A501, Motorola XOOM MZ601, Galaxy Tab P7500).
It seems like you would be happier with a Transformer Prime or TF300. The Nexus has a fine GPS (I always lock within seconds) and is great at playing games (Tegra 3 is second to none in regards to gaming right now).
Lack of 3G and a rear camera seem like deal breakers for you though. Get the tablet that has everything you need, or you will end up regretting it.
Off course tegra 3 is great at handling games....
But as far u want 3g ang gps too u can look for galaxy tab 2 7"(dont go for 10" it is a over priced waste.u can look for note 10.1 instead).it have everything u want and its also perform great in games....
For 10" variant my suggestion is note 10.1
Transformer or Note are a little too expensive for me. I should've mentioned that I have limited budget (I live in Poland and Nexus 7 costs about 300$ here, and that is the most I'm willing to spend on a tablet).
I was just wondering whether I will be able to live without a camera and with an additional device for 3G thanks to the Tegra3 gaming experience. That's why I'm trying to figure out how good is it. I'm not convinced that a 7inch screen will provide a significantly better gaming experience than a 10inch screen, even when details and FPS are better (I have 32inch HD Ready TV and 21inch Full HD monitor and I prefer the former). Also, I read that Tegra2 exclusives are available on other devices thanks to Chainfire 3D, although I can't find any information about how those games perform on eg. Samsung Galaxy 2 10.1 (P5100). And as for Tegra3 exclusives, there are not that many of them out there, right?
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Transformer or Note are a little too expensive for me. I should've mentioned that I have limited budget (I live in Poland and Nexus 7 costs about 300$ here, and that is the most I'm willing to spend on a tablet).
I was just wondering whether I will be able to live without a camera and with an additional device for 3G thanks to the Tegra3 gaming experience. That's why I'm trying to figure out how good is it. I'm not convinced that a 7inch screen will provide a significantly better gaming experience than a 10inch screen,
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you're telling me that you're hands will do better on a 10" screen then a 7" screen? you cant even compare the gaming experience between the two. 7" wins hands down. how are you gonna hold that 10" clunky piece of garbage in your hands and be comfortable?
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you're telling me that you're hands will do better on a 10" screen then a 7" screen? you cant even compare the gaming experience between the two. 7" wins hands down. how are you gonna hold that 10" clunky piece of garbage in your hands and be comfortable?
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It isn't that hard to hold a 10 inch tablet. Unless you of course have fairly small hands.
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you're telling me that you're hands will do better on a 10" screen then a 7" screen? you cant even compare the gaming experience between the two. 7" wins hands down. how are you gonna hold that 10" clunky piece of garbage in your hands and be comfortable?
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I'm talking about the visual experience, not the convenience of holding a tablet. I have large hands, 10" screen won't be a problem.
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I'm talking about the visual experience, not the convenience of holding a tablet. I have large hands, 10" screen won't be a problem.
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bigger screen = the need for more pixels so they dont look stretched
smaller screen = could have the same amount of pixels for less space to make it look better.
I've have tegra 3 games such as modern combat 3, nova 3, and some pinball game, that I'll tell you right now, look absolutely crazy. If you decide to get a nexus 7, root it, overclock it and it'll run even better.
For me a bigger screen is better, unless there is some radical difference in quality. It seems we have different taste.
I've looked on those titles you've mentioned and they look impressive indeed. Are there more of those Tegra3 exclusives? And do Tegra2 exclusives look better on Nexus than on Tegra2 devices?
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For me a bigger screen is better, unless there is some radical difference in quality. It seems we have different taste.
I've looked on those titles you've mentioned and they look impressive indeed. Are there more of those Tegra3 exclusives? And do Tegra2 exclusives look better on Nexus than on Tegra2 devices?
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im pretty sure if you go to the google play store website and type in "tegra 3 games" it'll show the variety
On Google Play website it isn't even mentioned that Modern Combat 3 is optimized for Nexus 7. Even on tegrazone most of the games are not exclusives. It's pretty confusing.
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On Google Play website it isn't even mentioned that Modern Combat 3 is optimized for Nexus 7. Even on tegrazone most of the games are not exclusives. It's pretty confusing.
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modern combat 3 may have been a bad example because I don't think that game was made specifically for tegra 3 devices. Check out dead trigger, shadowgun, riptide gp, or fort courage is a good one to
Tegra optimized games will usually have THD in their title
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Well, I've just read several reviews and absolutely everyone claim that for gaming there is no better device than Nexus 7 and that a 7 inch screen is better than a 10 inch screen. I'm pretty surprised by this concept, since I thought that I will just put a tablet on my laps and then play, but somehow it seems that you have to hold your device while playing. It is pretty weird, but that many people probably cannot be wrong.
Coming from an iPad, I prefer the N7 for gaming. Its smaller and lighter when playing games and the GPU is absolutely amazing. I find that android has a lack of games and apps in comparison to iOS though. I have already played most of the games on my iPad that I find in the play store now.
Well, you've pretty much convinced me to buy a Nexus 7. Now I have to figure out how to overcome the lack of 3G, because that's the most serious deal-breaker for me. I can probably handle lack of camera and GPS without GLONASS, but I absolutely need my tablet to have 3G. MiFi seems like perfect solution and those devices have a microSD slot, but I don't know whether I will be able to install games on a card accessible through WiFi. I guess I'll just buy it and find out.
I just found a benchmark (antutu) of the dev console while I was browsing the web and the CPU looks pretty decent, but sadly the gpu was left untested. (Link to this person's Imgur: http://imgur.com/a/4welz )
It scores about the same as the infinity though, so nothing really impressive.
Infinity scores: http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=126
It's somewhat disappointing that they couldn't up the clock speed a bit more considering it has fan and no power restraints, but perhaps the tegra 3 doesn't perform well at those speeds.
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Good find looks like we are going to have quite the decent system on our hands
Hope they do a revision with tegra 5 or with sgx next time around.
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Yeah, I just don't see the incentive to buy if it doesn't perform better than a smartphone. I feel like that majority of their market will already have a phone or tablet that performs similar to or better than this. Hopefully the gpu is overclocked because if it isn't than I see almost no reason for having a fan and heat sink Lol, perhaps it will come in handy with overclocking later.
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Yeah, I just don't see the incentive to buy if it doesn't perform better than a smartphone. I feel like that majority of their market will already have a phone or tablet that performs similar to or better than this. Hopefully the gpu is overclocked because if it isn't than I see almost no reason for having a fan and heat sink Lol, perhaps it will come in handy with overclocking later.
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If you already have a fast smartphone or tablet you'd be better off getting a controller like the Moga Pro, sixaxis, or similar instead and taht HDMI cable. This thing is very cheap so it may be worth it for those that want a portable emulator.
I have noticed that watching games like Need for Speed Most Wanted and Deadtrigger the games are not as smooth as on my Excite 7.7, TF300 or even the GS3 (Dual Snap version). I thought it was a Youtube frame rate issue, but notice the lack of smoothness with all 3D game videos I have seen when compared to my other devices. Is this an output issue to larger displays? Seems it would not be, but must be some reason. I output the Excite via HDMI and as smooth as on the device display.
Ironic Need for Speed is a game being shown, since that one game takes up one third of the storage space (It is 2GB counting user data).
For anyone interested in gameplay performance, these games are both running at max settings on the Note 2014 Edition Exynos.
note:
San andreas crash bug work around is in the Q&A section of this thread.
(NEW)Warhammer 40k Carnage on Galaxy Note 2014 Exynos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouInBfB4dYQ
Magic Rampage (rpg/platformer) on Galaxy Note 2014 Exynos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfS47ZZtAzQ
Asphalt 8 High
http://youtu.be/Jd4tXJokxAM
Gta San Andreas All Max
http://youtu.be/ZePS_XsW5x0
Rouge Beyond the Shadows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orvH0Je5oGY
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Android and MAX settings
According to 3D mark my iPad 4 is 50% slower but game graphics are like a PS4 (iPad) compared to a PS3 (Note 10.1)
Android sucks when it comes to games.
Much easier to make a game for 3-4 devices.
For Android... Well just make it, so it runs even on slow devices... put in some options and call them high or HD for the mid range.
And guess what 99% belive that the high option means good graphics until they see the games on an Ipad 4...
And even I don't wanna see what the Ipad air with more than twice the power is capable of, cause sure I would sell my Ipad 4...
Don't get me wrong 90% of the time am using my Note cause it's just better at most things except gaming
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Yea thats true about some games on android which are made primarily with ios in mind, where high or max are not the same as they are on ios, I'm not sure but I think San Andreas is running at a much higher resolution on the ipad. I guess the plus side would be you do get a variety of controller and screen size/color options on android.
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Android and MAX settings
According to 3D mark my iPad 4 is 50% slower but game graphics are like a PS4 (iPad) compared to a PS3 (Note 10.1)
Android sucks when it comes to games.
Much easier to make a game for 3-4 devices.
For Android... Well just make it, so it runs even on slow devices... put in some options and call them high or HD for the mid range.
And guess what 99% belive that the high option means good graphics until they see the games on an Ipad 4...
And even I don't wanna see what the Ipad air with more than twice the power is capable of, cause sure I would sell my Ipad 4...
Don't get me wrong 90% of the time am using my Note cause it's just better at most things except gaming
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Asphalt 8 looks and plays just as well on my note 10.1 2014 as it does on the iPad Air. So does NFSMW, RR3, Riptide GP 2, Galaxy on Fire 2 etc. Also, when I can hook up a gamepad to the iPad and play my PsOne, SNES, GBA, DS, and NES games then I will call the iPad a true gaming machine. iPad doesn't compare to the note 10.1 2014; it just doesn't.
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Asphalt 8 looks and plays just as well on my note 10.1 2014 as it does on the iPad Air. So does NFSMW, RR3, Riptide GP 2, Galaxy on Fire 2 etc. Also, when I can hook up a gamepad to the iPad and play my PsOne, SNES, GBA, DS, and NES games then I will call the iPad a true gaming machine. iPad doesn't compare to the note 10.1 2014; it just doesn't.
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Couldn't agree more. I'm half way through Final Fantasy IX, not on an iPad!
Also the 4:3 aspect ratio of the iPad means, that a lot of games are being zoomed in and cut off at the sides (Asphalt 8 for example) compared to 16:10 on the Note.
It really is time that devs start to make games for Android first. The issue is that games are made for IOS and then ported to Android. But the Android user base is growing and ios is stagnating.
It's already a lot better than a year ago though. I love gaming on my note 10.1 with the MOGA pro. It's like a real little console especially with the great emulators. Played through ff vii on my sgs3. It was just great. But you do get afew weird looks when playing in public, wwhich isn't necessarily a bad thing
As far as HD graphics goes. Give me a smooth and fast gameplay and I won't care about a slight graphic increase. I used to be a die hard Tegra guy due to the extra graphic enhancement in some games. From TF201, TF700, to TF701. I thought I would miss those extra enhancement and I really didnt when I returned the tf701 for the note. Once I'm playing my focus turns to the game play and don't even notice the lack of extra enhancement after a while.
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Impressions of the android exclusive Rouge Beyond the Shadows on note 2014 exynos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orvH0Je5oGY
Impressions of Magic Rampage (rpg/platformer) on Galaxy Note 2014 Exynos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfS47ZZtAzQ
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Asphalt 8 looks and plays just as well on my note 10.1 2014 as it does on the iPad Air. So does NFSMW, RR3, Riptide GP 2, Galaxy on Fire 2 etc. Also, when I can hook up a gamepad to the iPad and play my PsOne, SNES, GBA, DS, and NES games then I will call the iPad a true gaming machine. iPad doesn't compare to the note 10.1 2014; it just doesn't.
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When the ipad can run psp games at 4x native resolution dont call me. Ill be playing on my note.
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Impressions vidoe of Warhammer 40k Carnage on note 2014 exynos (rpg/platformer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouInBfB4dYQ
I've been looking at this as my next tablet, it sounds different and I like the note taking capabilities (having been a Galaxy Note user for years). I don't really game very much if I'm being honest, but I don't like the idea of spending quite a bit of cash on a tablet that's particularly slow. I've trawled around for Geekbench 4 scores and it's coming back at around 1100 single-core and 3100 multi-core.. I can live with that, it's ~3x faster than the Nexus 7 that I'm using at the moment and compared to my Note 4 it's 10-20% faster. Compared to say the Pixel C, which was the other tablet I was considering, it's a bit slower in single-core and about the same in multi-core benches. However, that doesn't really give me much of an idea about gaming. As I already said, I don't really do much gaming, and it's unlikely that I'll do anything much more taxing than Candy Crush, but I don't want to buy something that is overly slow in the first place.
To anybody that has a Yoga Book, what games have you run on it? How has it performed and how does it stack up against any of your other devices?
Cheers in advance.
Biggles 266 said:
I've been looking at this as my next tablet, it sounds different and I like the note taking capabilities (having been a Galaxy Note user for years). I don't really game very much if I'm being honest, but I don't like the idea of spending quite a bit of cash on a tablet that's particularly slow. I've trawled around for Geekbench 4 scores and it's coming back at around 1100 single-core and 3100 multi-core.. I can live with that, it's ~3x faster than the Nexus 7 that I'm using at the moment and compared to my Note 4 it's 10-20% faster. Compared to say the Pixel C, which was the other tablet I was considering, it's a bit slower in single-core and about the same in multi-core benches. However, that doesn't really give me much of an idea about gaming. As I already said, I don't really do much gaming, and it's unlikely that I'll do anything much more taxing than Candy Crush, but I don't want to buy something that is overly slow in the first place.
To anybody that has a Yoga Book, what games have you run on it? How has it performed and how does it stack up against any of your other devices?
Cheers in advance.
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As for Windows 10 version goes:
- Hearthstone - running fine
- Terrarian - running fine
- Armello - fine on low/medium details
- Portal 2 - running fine on medium/high details
- Torchlight 2 - generally ok-ish but slows down significantly with more effects/mobs
- Mirror's Edge - slideshow even on lowest details
The issue with Windows version & games is that Halo keyboard has issues (see here) so if you are going for windows version, get external keyboard or game pad.
Cheers for that, good to get some actual real world feedback. I'm likely to go for the Android version over the Windows one, however if you can run actual 3D games that were aimed at fully fledged PCs only a few years ago, then I should hopefully be ok running Angry Birds
Anybody else tried something like Real Racing 3 or Goat Simulator or *something* that is to Android devices what Crysis was to PCs?
Hello
I just got the Android version. I have also been wondering about gaming performance. I have been looking around for some information regarding the performance. It seems that the CPU part is comparable to the Snapdragon 810 and the GPU is comparable to the Snapdragon 800. I don't think the GPU part is as bad as it sounds, because most devices using a more powerful GPU's, is also using a higher resolution. But i tried a few games out to see if it run them.
Games:
Modern Combat 5 - OK
N.O.V.A 3 - OK
Riptide GP Renegade - Ok - At default setting (High) but the game suggests lower settings. But the highest settings is made for the Nvidia Shield tv.
Limbo - OK
Colin MCRae rally 2 OK (But you get a warning about possible performance issues. But i didn't notice any)
Newer Alone - OK (It didn't show up in the Playstore, so i installed the game from my cell phone)
Lost Journey - OK
Rayman Adventures - Not OK (Stops before you can play)
Rayman Fiesta Run - OK
Rush Rally 2 - OK
Virtua Tennis (Sega) - OK
Field Runners 2 - OK
Robo Defense - OK
Sonic 4 Episode 1 - Not Ok ( Runs in slowmotion)
Sonic 4 Episode 2 -Ok
Deus Ex The Fall - OK
Crazy Taxi Classic - Not OK ( Hangs while loading)
Wings - OK
Leo's Fortune - OK
Monument Valley - OK
R-type 1 & 2 - OK
Raiden - OK
Minecraft PE - OK
Super Soccer Champs - OK
Emulators:
Amiga 500 - OK (UAE4Arm - IK+ and Pinball dreams Using the Keyboard)
Commodore 64 - OK (C64.emu)
Arcade - OK (Mame4droid 0.139 and FBA4droid - CPS 3, Neo geo and more)
Nes - OK (Nes.emu)
NEC Pcengine - OK (PCE.emu)
Sega Megadrive - OK (MD.emu)
Dreamcast - OK But not all games will run well. But that the way it is with most devices (Raicast)
Playstation 1 - OK - (EPSXE)
Snes - OK (Snes9xEX+)
GBA - Ok (My Boy)
Quake3 - OK (Q3-touch)
Doom - OK (D-touch)
PSP - OK But not all games will run well. But that the way it is with most devices (PPSSPP)
Half Life / Counter Strike - OK (Xash / CS16Client)
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
To add to the Windows 10 version, TESIV Oblivion (and by extension, Morrowind) run fine on medium settings with the view distance still far away.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...-web&utm_medium=nvidia-web&utm_content=detail
The nVidia Shield exclusive Strike Suit Zero plays remarkably well. Unfortunately the game doesn't listen to the halo keyboard, but it does have controller and touchscreen support.
Hi! I have a Lenovo Yoga book Android version and I cant run ppsspp emulator, It stopped before I can open it. How can I fix this
Try downloading and older version from official website.
I had the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition before I got the Yoga Book.
I play:
XCOM: EW Graphics are awesome compared to the Note
Star Wars: KOTOR Same as above
Block Fortress War Same as above
Hitman Sniper Same as above
Games not working right.
Block Fortress Everything is inverted
Call of Duty Strike Team It loads to the main menu but I can't get pass the campaign load screen.
I'm also hesitant between Galaxy Tab s3 and Android version of Yoga Book. I mainly read and brows plus I play Unkilled multiplayer regularly . Does the Yoga handle smoothly Unkilled, Dead Trigger 2 etc. I'm coming from the excellent Galaxy Note 2014 /still in use but now with terrible Chinese battery which somehow makes the software act strangely/ . I'm considering Yoga Book cause it will save me money for Xperia XA1. I am on the budget and trying to maximize the utility.
Ruade said:
I'm also hesitant between Galaxy Tab s3 and Android version of Yoga Book. I mainly read and brows plus I play Unkilled multiplayer regularly . Does the Yoga handle smoothly Unkilled, Dead Trigger 2 etc. I'm coming from the excellent Galaxy Note 2014 /still in use but now with terrible Chinese battery which somehow makes the software act strangely/ . I'm considering Yoga Book cause it will save me money for Xperia XA1. I am on the budget and trying to maximize the utility.
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Yoga Book is a great replacement for the Note 10.1 2014. I had shattered the screen on my Note. It is well worth the price new, even though I got it used for half the price.
How will this tablet work for mail, browsing and social media? And compared to the Galaxy tab 3?
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How will this tablet work for mail, browsing and social media? And compared to the Galaxy tab 3?
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Having the Halo Keyboard is great. Being able to have floating windows is nice.
Can you run warframe?
I´d like to know if someone has tried on the Windows version League of Legends and Medieval II Total war, and how is the performance on those games. Thanks.
Curious if the Windows version would be able to run Minecraft mods (through Technic Launcher, Twitch, etc.) and games on Steam like Stardew Valley, Nier: Automata, DanganRonpa, etc.
Not expecting phenomenal results, but if it runs at least Stardew and light Minecraft mods relatively comfortably, then I'd be happy.
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Curious if the Windows version would be able to run Minecraft mods (through Technic Launcher, Twitch, etc.) and games on Steam like Stardew Valley, Nier: Automata, DanganRonpa, etc.
Not expecting phenomenal results, but if it runs at least Stardew and light Minecraft mods relatively comfortably, then I'd be happy.
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how about this:
Team fortress 2
Elders Scroll Oblivion
Starcraft
Counter Strike Source
Day of Defeat Source
etc, etc
Lenovo Yoga tablet on windows is a must-have device if you are always on the go and need an office machine always to be around. It is small and compact and would fit in a tiny bag. The advantage of having a windows version instead of android is because you have a fully equipped office machine and on android, you are a bit limited to the system therefore on windows you can do whatever you want to. Also, I was curious if anyone on this forum plays cs go as I do. A few hours ago I bought a legendary knife and wanted to ask if this knife is worth something if someone knows the game. Thanks in advance!