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well i got it today and its a very very nice phone.. looks great.. however i have noticed some quirks that makes me wish i didnt sell my 8125/wizard..
First thing that i can not stand.. is i am in the St. Louis area.. i get a U and data works, but its slow.. it seriously took me 7 minutes to get to the dslreports speed test page (and used both My Isp and MEdia Net connections). The other thing i have noticed is that i put on a screen protector... well it caused my screen to flip out and started doing all kinds of weird things, would open the start menu at random, etc. It also wouldnt allow me to touch/tick on the screen.. They keyboard layout is nice.. but if you are coming from a wizard the keyboard will screw you up, the layout is completely different...
Did you upgrade your previous sim card with 3G one?
Hi, I was just wondering if you did in fact get an upgraded sim card. 3G version. I read somewhere on one of the posts that this makes a heck of a lot of difference in speeds. I requested one when I purchased my 8525 last week, and while I don't live in a UMTS/HSDPA area(at least not yet) I went ahead and updated anyway since I sometimes do travel to 3G areas. BTW, it was totally free? Anyway, as a WinMob 5 newbie, I was just wondering.
Also, as a side note: I have yet to purchase a screen protector, but I did purchase a monaco hard aluminum case. This thing rocks! Good luck with your issues.
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well i got it today and its a very very nice phone.. looks great.. however i have noticed some quirks that makes me wish i didnt sell my 8125/wizard..
First thing that i can not stand.. is i am in the St. Louis area.. i get a U and data works, but its slow.. it seriously took me 7 minutes to get to the dslreports speed test page (and used both My Isp and MEdia Net connections). The other thing i have noticed is that i put on a screen protector... well it caused my screen to flip out and started doing all kinds of weird things, would open the start menu at random, etc. It also wouldnt allow me to touch/tick on the screen.. They keyboard layout is nice.. but if you are coming from a wizard the keyboard will screw you up, the layout is completely different...
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Not sure what the problem is with your data connection there. Where I am at present I only have regular GPRS (old old Sim) and page loads within around a second and test takes maybe 5 to 10 seconds with 50kb/s which without UMTS is fine.
Mike
the sim card thing is one thing i was wondering.. i got 2 phones today, my 8525 and a dumb sony ericsson for my wife.. mine came with a blue 3g card, same kind of card they have been giving out all year.. however her non 3G SE came with a white 3G card, its apparently new.. i wonder if i need one of these cards..
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the sim card thing is one thing i was wondering.. i got 2 phones today, my 8525 and a dumb sony ericsson for my wife.. mine came with a blue 3g card, same kind of card they have been giving out all year.. however her non 3G SE came with a white 3G card, its apparently new.. i wonder if i need one of these cards..
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Well, my 3g card is primarily white(approx. 75%)with a blue top. Also has a flaming 3g icon on it. Hope that helps. I totally agree with the previous post, I only have GPRS here at home, and my pages load up very quickly. I'm quite impressed actually. Perhaps one of the senior members might have some input for you?
your sim sounds like the one my wife got, mine is still the old school blue one... sounds like i need to get a new sim then..
What AKU version is shipping on the 8525? I have been looking at upgrading my 8125 in for the 8525. Also did they offer any upgrade specials? (ie. what did it cost you to walk out of the store, $$$, contract extension, etc.)
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J-Man5
go get a new sim card. my pages come up pretty fast and my speed test show an avgerage of 700k
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go get a new sim card. my pages come up pretty fast and my speed test show an avgerage of 700k
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i just went on my lunch/dinner break and got a new sim card.. my pages load faster than with my old sim.. however its still slower than my edge on my 8125.. i was just finally able to run a speedtest.. i got 10k
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What AKU version is shipping on the 8525? I have been looking at upgrading my 8125 in for the 8525. Also did they offer any upgrade specials? (ie. what did it cost you to walk out of the store, $$$, contract extension, etc.)
Thanks,
J-Man5
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it cost me 431.41, i ordered mine through the business number since i am an AT&T employee... also since i am an employee i got free overnight shipping, ordered mine friday around 7pm, got it today before 3pm... and i will give you the aku after i hard reset.. now my phone is locking up, wont even open the start menu.. something funky is going on.. however i tried the softkey combo's to hard reset and they will only bring up the bootloader
*edit* im an idiot.. i was reading L/R softkeys, but wasnt comprehending it.. i was hitting the buttons on the side.. im a freaking moron this evening
and FYI its AKU2.3... i have done a hard reset and still getting crap speeds.. this test was 45k
I'm getting much better speeds even on just GPRS (when the connection works, which is highly variable). Got over 200k on DSL reports in the (northern) Los Angeles area over the weekend. Have the shiny new 'flaming' white SIM.
So I'm not the only one surprised by how old the version of WM5 on the 8525 is? I thought it was supposed to be one of the first devices with AKU3+--with BT PAN instead of DUN and all that...?
so after my hard reset, i tried to get on the net.. wouldnt connect.. so i installed all my software that i normall install, rebooted the phone again (about the 20th time today) then noticed i connected pretty fast.. so i jumped on the net and ran a dslreports speed test and got 949k, i am finally impressed... i guess i will see what happens.. technically they never announced that 3g has been turned up yet... so maybe it was a network thing earlier.. but i will say the sim played a huge part of it cause it was more responsive after the sim
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so after my hard reset, i tried to get on the net.. wouldnt connect.. so i installed all my software that i normall install, rebooted the phone again (about the 20th time today) then noticed i connected pretty fast.. so i jumped on the net and ran a dslreports speed test and got 949k, i am finally impressed... i guess i will see what happens.. technically they never announced that 3g has been turned up yet... so maybe it was a network thing earlier.. but i will say the sim played a huge part of it cause it was more responsive after the sim
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Well, I'm glad everything worked out for you. Now if you could just make a donation to my paypal account, all will be well! J/K
Seriously though, I was kind of surprised by your low/slow speeds prior to your resetting your device/software. So much so, that I decided to run my own tests. And what I found out was interesting to say the least. It appears that with the larger files that I download/test, my speed seems to increase. Is anyone else experiencing this with GPRS. While I ran out of time, my (I think it's the 1M) last test clocked in at 214K. So I am very happy for now, and look forward to visiting my parents in Texas where alot of the major metropolitan areas have UMTS. ie Dallas, Austin, Houston.
Speed on 8525
I am in the DC area and was having major issues with the speed. I called customer support and they told me to change the settings to use the MediaNet connections and reboot. After that the thing flys---
i found a registry setting last night that will add the band's tab in the phone settings.. in the bands tab you can choose between UMTS and Edge... im glad i found this cause when my speeds are crap on UMTS i can fix it to edge and still use the net reliably... i will just have to deal with the ups and downs till the network here in st. louis is "officially" turned up.. if anyone is interested in this file i made a cab for it so you can just install it on your phone, here is a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283797
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I am in the DC area and was having major issues with the speed. I called customer support and they told me to change the settings to use the MediaNet connections and reboot. After that the thing flys---
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What were you using earlier?
i have tried both media net and my isp.. sometimes my connection works, sometimes it dont.. but i think its just my market area
Can anyone post the complete settings for using isp.cingular instead of wap.cingular?
I have the unlimited PDA Connect Plan, but I am using wap.cingular right now. I tried to switch to isp.cingular but then the 8525 will not connect.
My thought the settings are (CASE SENSITIVE):
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
APN: isp.cingular
What is the best program out for this? i heard about wififofum and wmwifirouter
anyone actually use a program to do this now? which one are you using? and how well does it work?
I am going to be getting rid of my data card for my laptop with use of verizon's vzmanager.
Thanks to dcd, i love this phone, gps gets a lock in 5 seconds vs the ppckitchen.orgs builds.
now i just need this setup as a wifirouter and this 500.00 phone will pay for itself woop
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What is the best program out for this? i heard about wififofum and wmwifirouter
anyone actually use a program to do this now? which one are you using? and how well does it work?
I am going to be getting rid of my data card for my laptop with use of verizon's vzmanager.
Thanks to dcd, i love this phone, gps gets a lock in 5 seconds vs the ppckitchen.orgs builds.
now i just need this setup as a wifirouter and this 500.00 phone will pay for itself woop
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I have never used WiFiFoFum, but I do use WMWIFIRouter all of the time. Works as promised and the Mogul even has decent transmitting range.
I have done speed tests with WMWIFIRouter and I still get 1.5mbps on speedtest.net
cool thanks! I am checking it out now. I am also checking out internet sharing, never figured out how it works but got it to work pretty easy
1.) soft reset
2.) goto internet sharing
3.) choose usb for pc connect (but dont plug in the usb cable yet) and choose data network connect
4.) pressed connect
5.) pluged in usb cable (status is now connected, the soft reset was the key)
gonna test out internet connection now.
but when u do this do u get hit with those god-awful charges from your service provider? i tried something like this once and sprint tried their hardest to hit me with all types of data charges and i have a data plan already!!!
I am having issues trying to use the WiFi router application. It's starts up but I can't seem to find it when I search for network on my laptop. I have a tilt and it works just fine from that.
Any one else have any idea's?
Thanks for the help
Well the new WMWifirouters suck, but here is the one i use, just make sure you have your titans wifi on when trying to connect using wmwifirouter
Arlop said:
I am having issues trying to use the WiFi router application. It's starts up but I can't seem to find it when I search for network on my laptop. I have a tilt and it works just fine from that.
Any one else have any idea's?
Thanks for the help
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I'm having a similar problem, trying to connect either my PSP or my laptop (with 802.11b only). After starting up WMWFR, it says connected and ready, but neither of my devices can find it (this is with the version of the app that was just posted last week.
The newest and latest versions of WMWifirouter actually work a billion times better than that old ass version, Also give some love to the dev by buying the app he has put hundreds of thousands of hours into the app
AstainHellbring said:
The newest and latest versions of WMWifirouter actually work a billion times better than that old ass version, Also give some love to the dev by buying the app he has put hundreds of thousands of hours into the app
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apparently the PSP won't even connect with the commercial version, so never mind
plus, I think you might be exaggerating the "hundreds of thousands of hours" just a bit
WmWifiRouter
I've used WmWifiRouter for 8 months now, since close to its conception, and I can say without a doubt that I wouldn't try anything else. The new v1.2 will be coming out soon with the new core, which does not use the Internet Connection Sharing software with WM and makes it much faster and more stable. This is currently in beta testing, and will be released as a public beta in the next few weeks.
I have NEVER paid a tethering charge, and I can say it's well worth the small amount of money to get on board with this one.
WmWifiRouter works well, but it drains the battery very very.. fast via the WIFI...
AstainHellbring said:
The newest and latest versions of WMWifirouter actually work a billion times better than that old ass version, Also give some love to the dev by buying the app he has put hundreds of thousands of hours into the app
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o rly?
Even if he only put 100,000 hours into it, this would mean he had a Windows Mobile 6 device with Wi-Fi back in 1997 and started work on it back then.
Don't get me wrong, it's a good app, and he DID put a lot of effort into it, but there is no need to worship him
oh right might not be hundreds of thousands of hours but I know he's put a ****load of time into the app. I'm not workshiping him but I know how hard he's worked to put out a good product
Newer version
I think the newer version of WMWiFiRouter permanently kills WiFi on my Titan. I've had to replace my Mogul twice, and it's worked before installing the proggy, never after. Even after a hard reset, or new ROM.
Hello
I am going to move to a new building and because is new there is no DSL nor cable yet. It might be available in one week or even in 3 months, no one is able to give me a date. So I will use my HDSPA flat rate until I can use the DSL or cable. Since I do not have any HDSPA modem, only the HTC Touch HD and the HTC P3600 (this one only has 1.8 Mbps download down-link speed) I thought that maybe I could use the HTC Touch HD as my temporary modem but I wonder: Would be 8 hours of daily usage too much for this device? Should I buy a HDSPA modem instead?
Thank you for your recommendations
Krkic said:
Would be 8 hours of daily usage too much for this device?
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What do you mean by that?
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What do you mean by that?
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I mean normal modems become too hot when you do an intensive usage, the Blackstone it is not designed to be just a modem, so... Also maybe even a 3,5G connection will probably make a modem become hotter than a ADSL/cable connection (I am guessing that, I have no idea about it).
I used my Touch HD as modem for my Sony Vaio for about a month without encountering troubles. Yes, it does get hot but if you are in an air-conditioned room the device doesn't get as hot.
I am now using it as a wi-fi router using Walkinghotspot without any problems.
Modem Instruction?
Hi All,
This is probably a dumb question...but where can I find instruction on using Touch HD as a modem for a laptop? Googled it but couldn't quite come up with anything.
I know the rough steps...connect via bluetooth, etc. But not sure what to do after that...and I've tinkered w/o any success...
Thanks!!
One18 said:
Hi All,
This is probably a dumb question...but where can I find instruction on using Touch HD as a modem for a laptop? Googled it but couldn't quite come up with anything.
I know the rough steps...connect via bluetooth, etc. But not sure what to do after that...and I've tinkered w/o any success...
Thanks!!
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You could use internet sharing, some roms have it included do a search see what you find, it can connect via bluetooth or USB and then select ur preference for gprs etc
Hi Has anyone got their 3G internet dongle working yet?
I have a bell canada 3g dongle (novatel) I would like to use.
I looked in dev and found something with modules but I had no luck
I'm using a MiFi and it works flawless... the model is a ZTE MF30, bought in Spain. I don't know if it'll be available in your country... it can work plugged by USB or in WiFi mode for up to 5 devices at the same time...
Cheers
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I'm using a MiFi and it works flawless... the model is a ZTE MF30, bought in Spain. I don't know if it'll be available in your country... it can work plugged by USB or in WiFi mode for up to 5 devices at the same time...
Cheers
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How did you get the USB connection to work on MiFi? I didn't think the A500 had that capability yet.
Hey guys, ive been tethering for awhile now, and had no problems, just really noticed this after my second month of service.
But, when tethering, HTML web browsing is pretty slow, and my Network Meter widget on my computer says im loading webpages at only 25 -30 KB/s but when i download a torrent/file or anything else (even streaming youtube) my dl speeds go up to 130-208 kB/s. So i thought it was IE9 but then when connected to an actual wifi access point, i experience so issues. Also, i downloaded Google Chrome and the same thing happens. Secondly, when im skyping or oovooing, it will randomly disconnect and hang me up, but yet the icon on my phone says that im still connected to data and everything is fine.
Question is this: Do you think the issue resides in my laptop, phone, WiFi tether app, or T-Mobile network?
I must add both the speedtest app and website (ran from computer) yeild the same speeds. Im completly stumped as to why its like this, im putting my money on the tethering app, but at times when i get kicked off skype and it says i have no internet connection, i try loading a webpage on my phone and it takes a bit longer. (Its really hard to say) but i really need ideas as to where i can start diagnosing and eliminating things.
AS USUAL THANKS GUYS
Are you on Magldr? If so, can you test it with cLK? I'm tethering wired and wireless with cLK and it had been pretty fast- the only time I see a lag in losing any page is if the site is a known, slow one (like the Indian Railways reservations site!)...
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Are you on Magldr? If so, can you test it with cLK? I'm tethering wired and wireless with cLK and it had been pretty fast- the only time I see a lag in losing any page is if the site is a known, slow one (like the Indian Railways reservations site!)...
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Im on CLk, i dont like MAGLDR because i have the red key digitizer error. Where the touch screen becomes unresponsive when you use the end key. I might tear it apart and try to fix it someday. But a thought just came across, could T-Mobile somehow know im tethering and throttle me then?
Ah! You didn't mention TMo (am on XDA app, can't see it even of you have added it to your profile!)
It's very much a possibility- other TMo users, can you check this one out?
And how do you tether- wifi or wired? Built-in or an app? I use built-in for wireless and the wired tether app. The app shows the speeds in realtime, try it if you already haven't...
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Ah! You didn't mention TMo (am on XDA app, can't see it even of you have added it to your profile!)
It's very much a possibility- other TMo users, can you check this one out?
And how do you tether- wifi or wired? Built-in or an app? I use built-in for wireless and the wired tether app. The app shows the speeds in realtime, try it if you already haven't...
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Haha sorry man! Wasnt sure if it mattered. But i have a feeling its my phone, as something strange happened just a few minutes ago, i was tethering, and i lost connection, so i enabled Airplane mode, then disabled it, and it said 3 bars of service no matter where i was.. it was like the radio got stuck/froze or something. Im gonna flash another radio just to check it out. Also, i use the WiFi tether for root users app which actualy uses built in wifi tethering. But i cant really see the speeds as my phone only gets 3g on my window sill xD and i use VNC viewer to control my phone from my computer. And the tether app uses the wifi port to monitor speeds, so it goes way high when im controlling my phone with VNC from my computer so its hard to say. Im more convinced its the phone :/ but just dont know what.
I think ive narrowed it down, after changing ROM, RADIO, kernel, location, only one thing made a difference, and that was location. I think the connection is unstable because there are no bars showing, just shows the H and that its connected, so i think its just that my signal is horrible, wont know till i get my SGS2, if i get it. :/ my HD2 sucks with signal, can a bad SIM cause this?
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I think ive narrowed it down, after changing ROM, RADIO, kernel, location, only one thing made a difference, and that was location. I think the connection is unstable because there are no bars showing, just shows the H and that its connected, so i think its just that my signal is horrible, wont know till i get my SGS2, if i get it. :/ my HD2 sucks with signal, can a bad SIM cause this?
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Have you ever dropped your HD2, even if it was not a major fall?
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Have you ever dropped your HD2, even if it was not a major fall?
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I have soldered the two tabs to the atenna using 24 gauge wire, i sure as heck hope that didnt come apart xP
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I have soldered the two tabs to the atenna using 24 gauge wire, i sure as heck hope that didnt come apart xP
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Couldn't help but smile at that one
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Couldn't help but smile at that one
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bahaha i have to do it to the wifi antenna as well. but the wires are still connected, i dont understand what could be causing my horrible service, unless the HD2 is that bad?? i plan on buying an SGH - T989 but i dont know yet....
Are you sure your place has a good signal, and its just the HD2 that is not picking up? Try with another phone. I used to have black-spots in my home a long while back, and used some app for Symbian for my E72 to check the signal strength at various places within the house as well as the cellular towers that is available for me - maybe something like that is available for Android (should be available for sure, is Symbian has it Android will have a million alternative!).
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Are you sure your place has a good signal, and its just the HD2 that is not picking up? Try with another phone. I used to have black-spots in my home a long while back, and used some app for Symbian for my E72 to check the signal strength at various places within the house as well as the cellular towers that is available for me - maybe something like that is available for Android (should be available for sure, is Symbian has it Android will have a million alternative!).
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Well i tried with my Sprint Touch Pro 2, and it got really good edge signal (doesnt support 3g on tmo) but when id put my hands around it it would loose service, but in general, it was much better then the HD2. and actually, we went to see a circus, and inside the stadium, HD2 had no service, but Touch Pro 2 had full bars... so im guessing its the HD2. :/