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Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
Hello,
First off welcome to Android, second, get the fire suit on for the "wrong forum" flames.
What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
Not a *ton* but there is Tether and other goodies that you can start using.
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
Yes to 1st, and there will be lost data when you unlock the bootloader.. if you unocked the bootloader, and then used the phone for a week or so, THEN flashed this addon pack, then no data loss.- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
Android Debug Bridge... its used for debugging. lol....- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
No, the Nandroid backup will be an option AFTER you unlock the BL and install Amon_RA's Recovery image..
Good luck man!!
thanks for the reply.
I'm trying to gather as much as i can before i get the phone in my hands. Maybe because i want to start right away when i get hold of the phone lol You have enlightened me on many points.
I was just wondering also,
I've read about apps such as Nexus Torch and SetCPU which require rooting. Are these apps aquired simply after I unlock + root from the market place? because i read about reinstall su and similar.
Sorry for the noobiness, as i've mentioned im a android beginner and not too familiar with the terms used.
I just want to install some cool apps and convert those iphone users......(my gf )
No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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I'm doing the same thing as this guy. I'm super hardcore about customization so I have no doubt that I'll root my phone eventually but not quite yet. Things are still a bit too new and right now there really aren't that many reasons to root (outside of tethering support IMO). If you can live without tethering for a month, then you should wait to root.
welcome
addon packs do a few things to your phone. the biggest things, i think, are the busybox and the dropbear installations, and the tethering apps. some modders also like to "optimize" android too. whether or not it actually works, i can't personally tell, but i take their word for it.
busybox will allow you to run some common linux commands on your android (with a terminal app i guess...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox
dropbear is an ssh server so that you can access the command line (and push files to your android) from your computer
tethering means share your cell connection with a computer to give your computer internet. i've used it in many airports, and it's sweet.
like the other dude said, the initial root will require a data wipe, but not the addons. i'm not sure if it's true for EVERY rom (i think it is) but when you first install a whole rom a wipe is required, but when upgrading to a newer version of the same rom no wipe is required. if you like to keep your sms and mms's then it's good to have some of these linux tools so you can move and replace the sms and mms databases manually.
adb is android debugging bridge. it's a part of the android sdk (software development kit) that google gives out for free and is meant to develop apps. with it you can plug your phone into your comp via USB and run all sorts of commands on it from your computer. droidexplorer is basically a GUI for the adb commands, so with ADB you can do all that droidexplorer can do. http://de.codeplex.com/
nandroid is kind of like "system restore" for android. you need to root the phone, then flash Amon_RA's recovery thingy (in one of the threads). once you're in recovery, you can create a nandroid backup (kind of like an image of your current android phone) that you can restore later. then restoring it is as simple as going back into recovery and clicking "restore".
m00moo said:
Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
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wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
If I buy an app (I'm thinking of the Exchange Calendar sync app) and then end up rooting and installing another ROM (say the EU ROM if it has multitouch) will I be able to get my purchased apps working again - or do you have to rebuy them?
If you buy an app it'll always show as purchased on the marketplace so you can redownload it - all the ones I bought on my G1 were still available when I setup the N1 for example.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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Wait to root. Right now it's still too unknown on the "ins and outs" of this phone. When I first started rooting on my G1 and MyTouch I wiped a lot while learning things about it. Research while you wait. An OTA is supposed to come out to fix some bugs, and nobody has released any ROMs anyways. And on paid apps, Google Checkout keeps a record of what you purchase, no matter how many times you wipe Market will always have them listed in the "Downloads" Tab as "Purchased" to re-download at no charge.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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that happened to me. i think it has to do with the fact that i rooted and turned on my phone before i even put my simcard in. i opened the market and couldn't see "top paid apps" (though i could still search for apps and paid ones would show up). after i turned it off, then put my sim card in and turned it back on, no dice, still no top paid apps.
i reflashed nexusone-superboot-1.1.img with my sim card in this time (can't remember if i wiped. i think it required a wipe) and i turned it on with my sim and voila. paid apps. so it's definitely fixable if you run into that problem.
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
Orangeandblue302 said:
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
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I use SetCPU to underclock the device in sleep mode.
I also underclock when I am not going to be using it for long periods.
Saves battery life.
true true, didnt think of it like that. most people want to overclock, i shouldnt assume. you know what happens when you assume lol.
It is a bit of a travesty to do it to this device. Its like putting a Beetle engine in a Porsche.
I can't always be near a charger, and until I can get a bigger battery that will give me more than seven hours, this is the solution.
this being my first android device i have spent hours on end on theses boards and on wiki's learning as much as i can about the phone and the platform... many of these basic questions that he asked i also had not 24 hours ago haha...
that being said, i think a lot of people are moving over to android so what if a thread got started that would answer basic questions that typically ever new user is going to have? ive yet to find a straight forward answer for half of the crap i have tried to find out and having it all in 1 place would be quite beneficial for people switching over... this could be moderated highly to keep it clean and in order?
a nice, straightforward, helpful community would be a nice touch to overtake some iphone shares
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
yamanote said:
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
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Sorry I am not really from Hong Kong lol I'm in fact from UK and Chinese. My Phone will be arriving early next week so whilst waiting, I am trying to learn as much as possible in case i damage my phone being a noob. lol
I agree with JHaste, i think due to the N1 and the upcoming HTC andoird devices. Alot of people will be moving over to Android in the coming 2-3 months. The questions i asked will be asked over and over and some kind of wiki,faq or android bible will be great. If anybody had the time and knowledge of basic rooting, unlocking and flashing could do such a thing it will be greatly appreciated
m00moo said:
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
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i think cyanogen's mod includes a backup app (titanium backup or somethin)...you'd be able to save all your data before you wiped it clean (but then you'd need the same backup app to restore it)
I bought a second hand HD2 for my parents which has all this Telstra stuff in there running at Winmob 6.5. I would like to load a clean operating system for their phone because they are overwhelmed by all this Telstra stuff. They are not even using Telstra. The HD2 is an unlocked Australian Telstra model which I am unsure as to whether that is still called Leo.
Which of the Android hacks are solid and everything works on the HD2 when installed with no bugs or issues?
Which Winmob 7 root is free and I can install on the HD2 where it runs the phone fully with no bugs or issues?
Which Winmob 6.5 root that is free that I can install on the HD2 where it runs the phone fully with no bugs or issues?
If you can provide links, would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
spend some time searching and reading, you are looking for the 'holy grail' of smart phones and I wish you luck. If your parents find additional content hard to manage they are unlikely to cope with a custom ROM, best buy them a simpler phone that just does what they require straight from the box.
I'm looking for the Loch Ness monster, the ark, and King Solomon's mines. Any links would be appreciated. Seriously, what you are asking for is a difficult, possibly impossible thing. All roms have issues and if your parents are overwhelmed by a stock rom, chances are, anything on xda will be a challenge. Having said that, I think that a basic Android nand rom might work. Several are available in that subforum. You might have to engage in some trial and error to find the right fit, though.
I think one of the best rom for now is HyperDroid , it is very nice very smooth and so far i know had no any problems for me . Everything works just fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
boomboomer said:
spend some time searching and reading, you are looking for the 'holy grail' of smart phones and I wish you luck. If your parents find additional content hard to manage they are unlikely to cope with a custom ROM, best buy them a simpler phone that just does what they require straight from the box.
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Why would you say that a custom ROM usually has all of the unwanted bloatware removed and are smoother than any stock ROM. They also give you better access to controls on your HD2 and most of the time better functionality than wioth stock ROMs.
At the OP yes you are looking for the holy Grail LOL ........ A ROM is something that is more of a personal preference than just good or not good. what one person may like in or about a ROM someone else might hate. As treo...not! said you wioll have to just go through and test a ROM and see what you think, "Trial and error." The Hyper Droid ias good though it is what I am running noe on my HD2. check my sig for a link to it and other things too lol.
nexushd2-gingerbread v2.5 is simple and clean. no problems.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I would suggest WP7, simple easy to use, highly stable, more stable than any OP I have ever used and hav tried all even dare I say it iOS. I have dual boot Wp7/android and I use wp7 90% of the time, re only thing that might happen to them is a slighlty blurred photo.
Sent from my HD2 running WP7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
dualboo said:
I bought a second hand HD2 for my parents which has all this Telstra stuff in there running at Winmob 6.5. I would like to load a clean operating system for their phone because they are overwhelmed by all this Telstra stuff. They are not even using Telstra. The HD2 is an unlocked Australian Telstra model which I am unsure as to whether that is still called Leo.
Which of the Android hacks are solid and everything works on the HD2 when installed with no bugs or issues?
Which Winmob 7 root is free and I can install on the HD2 where it runs the phone fully with no bugs or issues?
Which Winmob 6.5 root that is free that I can install on the HD2 where it runs the phone fully with no bugs or issues?
If you can provide links, would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
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You are going to have some issues with any ROM. I suggest that you install a clean WM6 (I use NRG), then customize the Sense tabs so that they have only the ones they actually use. That should be stable and easy to use.
If they have trouble with that, I think that WP7 is probably the easiest to use in terms of the interface, but from what I have read it can be difficult to get the HD2 WP7 burn officially recognized as a valid WP7 installation, so that the marketplace & etc can be used effectively. You can look at the HD7 forum for more information.
Sorry but if he wants to put WP7 on his parents HD2 he needs to go to HD2 Windows Phone 7 this has all the info iun these forums for running WP& on the HD2. Also check out the little guide I wrote on HSPL, MAGLDR, and CWM linked in my sig. YOU don't use CWM with WP& but the rest you do, I even have a link to a good guide to installing WP7 on the HD2 at the top beginning of my guide.
T-Macgnolia said:
Sorry but if he wants to put WP7 on his parents HD2 he needs to go to HD2 Windows Phone 7 this has all the info iun these forums for running WP& on the HD2. Also check out the little guide I wrote on HSPL, MAGLDR, and CWM linked in my sig. YOU don't use CWM with WP& but the rest you do, I even have a link to a good guide to installing WP7 on the HD2 at the top beginning of my guide.
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I think you are replying to my post, and you appear to agree with my statement "go to the WP7 forum"...
stevedebi said:
I think you are replying to my post, and you appear to agree with my statement "go to the WP7 forum"...
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Well I was not exactly agreeing with you about the WP7 but you had told him to go to the HD7 forums and I just wanted to correct that as the HD7 forums would really be of no help to him. But I know it was a honest mistake.
Cheers
Hey guys, anyway to convince someone to switch from Windows Mobile to Android. The problem the person is that they are afraid that the phone may break like what happened to mine and etc. Any help
blahblah13233 said:
Hey guys, anyway to convince someone to switch from Windows Mobile to Android. The problem the person is that they are afraid that the phone may break like what happened to mine and etc. Any help
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get them drunk n high....
blahblah13233 said:
Hey guys, anyway to convince someone to switch from Windows Mobile to Android. The problem the person is that they are afraid that the phone may break like what happened to mine and etc. Any help
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It's pretty much impossible to "break" an HD2 by flashing Android on it.
You can even have them run it from SD at first using haret (no flashing required) so he gets to love Android?
What happened to yours?
Windows mobile is out of date, but Android is going forward. It is better to just flash the NAND, not trying to SD. I, too, at first afraid to flash NAND, but when I did it, I felt the difference! Just read the instructions carefully on the firmware and all is well!
Moon2 said:
What happened to yours?
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I kinda flashed a wrong radio but somehow the phone still worked...so...yeah. I just got my new HD2.
Show 'em android working on ur new hd2, and how u've managed to get it on without bricking it.
blahblah13233 said:
Hey guys, anyway to convince someone to switch from Windows Mobile to Android. The problem the person is that they are afraid that the phone may break like what happened to mine and etc. Any help
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Well,
I personally would stay out of such 'convincing methods'. If that person doesn't want to do it himself, convincing him will put you into responsibility and he will blame everything on you if something goes wrong or he simply doesn't like Android. I am not sure if this is worth it risking a friendship over ... !
I do agree with Junner2003. But if it is a must I would put Android Nand rom on sd memory card. That way they can fully choose and use both to test out and see if they like Android. I set my phone up this way and since then I have never booted into WindowsMobile again. I fell in love with Android right away. I do have it set up to boot automatically so if I want I can stop the auto boot and boot into windows instead of android.
orangekid said:
It's pretty much impossible to "break" an HD2 by flashing Android on it.
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Not sure if I'd agree with that, there seems to have been lots more nand errors leading to stuck radio/spl since we started partitioning. It could simply be that the hd2 has been in the wild for near two years, and so more are starting to fail, but still seems to be more prevalent in android flashing threads than winmo.
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Well.....I told my friends to flash Android and they said "Holy smoke, can i do that? Show me how! Woooohooo!"
Now; i don't know about your friends but you have to make some new ones. I believe "nerds" is the right name for them! Look for them! The will definitely want to use Android on their HD2.
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Ohhh.. just kidding mate. I agree with the other guys, flash Android on your phone and show to your friends that nothing happened to your device and it's awesome. The next day???? Flash Windows Phone 7 and show them again that your device is more awesome! On the very next day they "Will break Down"!
But be careful not to break it...Again! Just....follow the steps and everything would be fine!
Search the forum for all the tools you may need and don't hesitate to post your concerns and problems here so we "experts" can help you out!
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I have a case now and that was the worst an most useless post I have ever seen.
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
pwraggcan said:
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
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Thank you.
Dowsett said:
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
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I suggest you to root first then install a custom ROM.
Dowsett said:
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
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Those are custom ROM, which developers uses stock ROM as base. They modified, customized and tweaked it, so it is much faster and more battery saving than stock ROM.
To flash a custom ROM, you can find guide in the development section.
Dowsett said:
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
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Welcome to Android World! Here you will find all your answers related to your Android OS.
Since you have not rooted your device. It's hard to get rid of some the built in apps.
in simple words if you are not aware of this stuff > Rooting your phone means becoming an Administrator of your device, where you can do what you like, like full control on (PC.
Check this link for all the details you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
I highly recommend getting screen protector
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
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saimon05 said:
I highly recommend getting screen protector
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You two sir, are meanie.
But then, consider using the 2+ clear protector for the front and rear for maximum protection.
Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
When I bought my DHD I was so into it I decided to make a personal website.
It has various rom screenshot examples, some videos and an up-to-date list of roms here at XDA. You can check it out via my sig.
I put it together with people like you in mind.
Maybe it can help or at least inspire you.
I try most roms and my current one is MIUI 1.8.26 V.2: FRESHLY SQUEEZED EDITION™ By MrGarak.
Screenshots of it are here.
Enjoy your DHD!
I still thoroughly enjoy mine.
pukemon said:
Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
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I actually did agree with you @pukemon, and I support it 100%.
But this...
Dowsett said:
...the screen broke within hours...
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So sad. Or maybe bad luck. Anyway, good luck unlocking your phone!
Hi there welcome to Android.
all that rooting isn't really obligatory, more of a fun thing to do actually. Most of the time ROM's from xda developers are better optimized and faster than the ones coming from HTC, but HTC aren't horrible developers.
For hiding crappy apps you could install an alternative launcher (i use GO Launcher EX) which allows you to hide certain apps. This way you'll never see them but the niceties of the Sense UI will be gone also (some of them). However Go Launcher is quite customizable.
and btw, this is the big thing with android, customization. You can change almost anything about it only sometimes needing root to do it.
It's a great OS and if iOS is friendly to noobs, Android is not as friendly (a bit of a learning curve but not steep) but it does let them show of a lot more.
Hello guys and gals,
I've been reading this forum for a few years now and really appreciate the community. I've learned so much from everyone I wish I could repay you all somehow. Thanks in advance for the assistance, I'm a little rusty so please bare with me.
I've got my HTC Leo working with CyanogenMod-6.1.0-Nightly-HD2(AndroidMediaUltimate) on top of CoreCell (unsure of the version at the moment, will edit soon)
The phone has been running a little wonky lately and freezing like crazy when the accellorometer changes states or when I'm using the camera. I also have some odd issues with WiFi dropping out and then giving an error... it's just time to reflash I think.
My question is, where do I start? LOL It's all changed since I initially flashed and I don't know if either SD or NAND has benefit over the other. I also want to stick to the Cyanogen build as it's been my favorite, but are there any others that are seriously worth testing? I don't have a lot of time on my hands as I'm busy with work and kids around, etc.
Are there any helpful souls out there who are willing to point me in the right direction? I don't need my hand held, I just need to get on the path and I can figure out the rest. Thank you again for reading and hopefully the assist!
you should try NativeSD where you install your ROM's ( you can have as many as you like depending on the size of the EXT4) in SD which is almost as fast as NAND & you'll have lot's of space for apps to install.
which loader are you using? MAGLDR or CLK?
try this link so that you'll have an idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31414628#post31414628
BTW No need to flash radio & use task29 & if ever you will flash radio be careful w/ Tmo's as some radio version can brick it.
Thank you Mengfei! I'm using the Haret loader, afaik? I haven't loaded into CoreCell in so long I just don't remember off the top of my head.
Also, I've switched to AT&T GoPhone service. I moved to the UK a couple years ago and had my phone unlocked when they were still handing out the codes. I'm hoping that I can spoof the APN and get my data service as it's inoperable at the moment. The radio I'm on is really solid, I switched it when I was in the UK for the o2 network. It seems to work on the cingular/AT&T network well, so I'll probably leave it for the time being.
Is there a specific build, rom/loader/etc, that you prefer for the Leo? -edit- After reading some of your posts, I've also gained some curiosity if WP7 has any benefit opposed to WinMo6.5? I don't use the windows side at all of the phone, so unless it's quicker to boot or more stable, is there any real need?
wafflefaust said:
Also, I've switched to AT&T GoPhone service. I moved to the UK a couple years ago and had my phone unlocked when they were still handing out the codes. I'm hoping that I can spoof the APN and get my data service as it's inoperable at the moment. The radio I'm on is really solid, I switched it when I was in the UK for the o2 network. It seems to work on the cingular/AT&T network well, so I'll probably leave it for the time being.
Is there a specific build, rom/loader/etc, that you prefer for the Leo? -edit- After reading some of your posts, I've also gained some curiosity if WP7 has any benefit opposed to WinMo6.5? I don't use the windows side at all of the phone, so unless it's quicker to boot or more stable, is there any real need?
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If you don't use Windows at all then there's really no point to using SD, just flash NAND. Some people say that NativeSD is faster than NAND but that really depends on your SD card whilst NAND will always be fairly fast. Follow the guide in my sig and you should be fine.
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Hello guys and gals,
I've been reading this forum for a few years now and really appreciate the community. I've learned so much from everyone I wish I could repay you all somehow. Thanks in advance for the assistance, I'm a little rusty so please bare with me.
I've got my HTC Leo working with CyanogenMod-6.1.0-Nightly-HD2(AndroidMediaUltimate) on top of CoreCell (unsure of the version at the moment, will edit soon)
The phone has been running a little wonky lately and freezing like crazy when the accellorometer changes states or when I'm using the camera. I also have some odd issues with WiFi dropping out and then giving an error... it's just time to reflash I think.
My question is, where do I start? LOL It's all changed since I initially flashed and I don't know if either SD or NAND has benefit over the other. I also want to stick to the Cyanogen build as it's been my favorite, but are there any others that are seriously worth testing? I don't have a lot of time on my hands as I'm busy with work and kids around, etc.
Are there any helpful souls out there who are willing to point me in the right direction? I don't need my hand held, I just need to get on the path and I can figure out the rest. Thank you again for reading and hopefully the assist!
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Hey man, Id say just go for NAND, its easy and quick to understand and apply.
Try this rom, CyanogenMod 7. Works great. Fast, Stable. Ive been using it for about 4 months, no issues til now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
cheers mates! thank you for the responses and I'll update when I'm done. will most likely be doing this process tomorrow so we'll see how it goes!