After the recent update from ICS to JB, many have noticed new S-Note problems.
Problems:
1.) Palm Detection Fail
2.) Missing Full Screen Function
This thread is to consolidate everything together. And bring awareness and hopefully find a fix or workaround to these issues.
Darkman posted the old version of S-Note, but so far there no one has confirmed that they work on JB.
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In this ZIP all SNotes that i have....
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S Note v0.1 - build 5r8988V03
S Note v0.5 - build r10645FV03
S Note v5r10645FV03
S Note v5r12434FV03
S Note v5r17214FV03
v0.1 & v0.5 i think is from 4.0.4
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Darkman posted the old version of S-Note, but so far there no one has confirmed that they work on JB.
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S Note's not broken in JB, it's different and OP isn't pleased with some of the changes Samsung made. This is what he posted in another thread...
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I've been using the updated version of S Note in JB since November and have been fine with it. I guess others have been too since this is the first time someone's called the new features "issues." And you can't just apply a different S Note APK because there are supporting files that it needs and it will FC when you try to open it. I don't know what to tell you OP, it is what it is.
Full screen is one thing, but how can you stand the palm detection issue?
If you rest your hand on the screen first before your s-pen gets within proximity, it will unintentionally zoom.
Before, There was no problem with palm touching the screen first.
You are fine with this?
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If you rest your hand on the screen first before your s-pen gets within proximity, it will unintentionally zoom.
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Samsung added scroll bars at the bottom and right of an active S Note because people were unhappy with the scrolling box in earlier versions. The scroll bars are sensitive to non-pen input even when palm rejection is active. I'm guessing this is to make it easier to navigate around an S Note. They also added multi-point non-pen input so that even when the palm rejection is active, if you touch the display in two places at once (EG: with two fingers), it will allow zooming. So since I've known this I avoid touching the scroll bar areas and make sure that my palm touches the display solidly so it's not mistaken for "two fingers." Here's a quick video showing what I'm talking about.
And here's something that might help. In the newer version of S Note that added a new template, "landscape note." At 100% it uses the all of the Note's display and therefore doesn't need to display scroll bars. So you get some of the real estate that you lost with the elimination of full screen mode back as well as eliminating the scroll bars which are sensitive to input even with palm rejection on.
And to answer your question, I am fine with it because I hated the scroll box and there are times when I do navigate with my fingers (scroll bars, two finger zoom) while I'm primarily using the pen.
Trust me, it's not the scroll bars that is causing the scrolling hahaha.
BTW, your video is private.
If that was the issue, then people who are complaining would be retarded.
You can put your palm right in the middle of the page, FAR away from any scroll bars on the side, and STILL it will zoom wildly.
Yes, even in the landscape template.
Maybe your palm is different than mine and many others. Because when I'm holding the S-PEN, the moment my side palm hits the screen, the Note zooms CRAZILY!!! All over the place.
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Oops. Sorry. You can see in the video that S Note only responds to non-pen touch when I make contact with the display with more than two points.
I see in your video your palm movement indeed does not induce the same Zooming that I have experienced.
I suspect this is because your palm is only contacting the screen at one point.
The way you have learnt to hold your pen, only the back of your palm (near the wrists) rests on the screen.
For many of us, the whole side blade of our palm rests on the screen, therefore presents many more Points of Contact resulting in misinterpreted Zoom behavior.
Mmmh! You could clearly see the issue at ~16 seconds with the zoom (top right) starting to do its crazy thing... nice bit of palm re-adjusting in an attempt to hide it :laugh:
Whilst the scroll bar is a good addition, they borked palm rejection! They could of integrated the pen button for zooming, scrolling, pen only and full screen.
I also have a bug which must be solved quickly!
When I use form recognition for drawing schema, SNote often deletes previous forms and I can't use the revert feature.
Any other similar experience?
Im really not sure how people are complaining about the new S Note. The old one had a fair number of bugs and limitations. Great new features I noticed are:
- Switch between eraser and pen with pen button -love this
- PDF import actually works and doesn't crash S Note
- Pam rejection mode is gone but new mode does allow for scrolling and zooming which I like.
- New scrollbar is useful
- You can now scroll tops of pages to below the top toolbar. Not being able to do that before was annoying. Eliminates need to hide the toolbar.
- Air view with hovering pen makes for easy scrolling.
- Air view also brings up help tips when hovered over anything in S Note. It also let you expand a folder in the file select screen and you can go right to a note in that file.
Probably even more I may have missed. I think losing the full screen is definitely a fair trade off, especially as several people have mentioned, it's not even as useful anymore. I do agree it would be nice to still have as an option so that you can have a full pad of paper on your screen. But it is definitely not a dealbreaker. With all the new features and bug fixes I think you'd be nuts to downgrade to an older S Note just for that.
And the palm detection??? It's always behaved that way... get used to putting the pen close to the screen before your hand and you won't have problems. It was that way in ICS and it's not hard to get used to. Again having the total palm rejection mode as a second option would be preffered but certainly not a dealbreaker. The new mode also has advantages.
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I can guarantee you that Palm Detection did NOT function in the same way before.
In fact, in 4.0.4, S-Note would not even Zoom unless touch access was enabled.
So there was no chance of miss detection.
All the other features you list are great, but besides the point.
Just because you fed your kid a nice meal of Kraft Dinner does not excuse you from murdering it after.
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Maybe your palm is different than mine and many others. Because when I'm holding the S-PEN, the moment my side palm hits the screen, the Note zooms CRAZILY!!! All over the place.
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I have noticed that if you lift the pen while writing then either the screen zooms or it starts making marks on the page. This is why I have switched to Write app for the notes app with it set to ignore all touch input (still registers the pen touch) and works great. Just wish I could change page background.
Now I really use the pen much more and like it more also.
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The following test will prove if the screen is capacitive or resistive:
Is it possible to touch the screen light enough so it won't register a click ?, if this is possible the screen is resistive (with capacitive this is impossible, since once your skin comes in contact with the screen, a click will be registered, it has nothing to do with pressure).
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The following test will prove if the screen is capacitive or resistive:
Is it possible to touch the screen light enough so it won't register a click ?, if this is possible the screen is resistive (since with capacitive this is impossible).
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Nope, on the lightes click the screen recognizes it.
Cool, it's capacitive then !
i hated it first few hours... typing was impossible for me thanks god it has changed
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i hated it first few hours... typing was impossible for me thanks god it has changed
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What exactly did you hate ?, the moment I got an iPhone to my hands, typing text was WAY easier than on my HD. When the screen registers 100% of the clicks (and not just 95%), it can only be for the good.
Nah, it takes me quite a lot of time to get used to the iPhone screen for typing. I make tons of errors at first.
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Nah, it takes me quite a lot of time to get used to the iPhone screen for typing. I make tons of errors at first.
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If you are using just your fingers in both cases, I can't imagine what will make the iphone more error prone than typing on a resistive screen... you don't make much sense sorry.
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The following test will prove if the screen is capacitive or resistive:
Is it possible to touch the screen light enough so it won't register a click ?, if this is possible the screen is resistive (with capacitive this is impossible, since once your skin comes in contact with the screen, a click will be registered, it has nothing to do with pressure).
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Mate, the specs have said for a while that the screen is capacitive.
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Cool, it's capacitive then !
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Ahem, what was not clear enough in the official specs where it's clearly written "Capacitive touch screen"?
Anyway, a much better test (to know if it was indeed capacitive) would have been to wear gloves and try using the phone with the gloves
why not just take any item (maybe a stylus from former HTC devices) and try?
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Ahem, what was not clear enough in the official specs where it's clearly written "Capacitive touch screen"?
Anyway, a much better test (to know if it was indeed capacitive) would have been to wear gloves and try using the phone with the gloves
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People were raising claims that you can still see dots on the HD2 screen (when it's off), hence it's still resistive. Those same people claim that the HD2 is "Multitouch Resistive", and that HTC called it Capacitive because of the multitouch capability.
Well, what can you do about ignorant people, except ignore the crap they say...
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I'm no capacitive/resistive screen expert, but those are the dots people are talking about. Maybe it's a new kind of capacitive screen? In any case, if HTC themselves said that it's capacitive then it's capacitive
Guys, am I missing something? HTC have said the screen is capacitive which should be enough.
Whether it's a new type of capacitive screen or not has to be irrelevant. What is of relevance is the way the screen behaves.
For me if the screen acts like a capacitive screen, is quick/responsive, and is a significant improvement on the screen I currently use then that's fine by me.
Like I said, am I missing something?
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Are people still debating if the screen if capacitive or not.
Again. Its Capacitive. Its been tested by several people who have HD2's, including myself, and the screen only responds on human skin contact. Try other stuff, and no responds.
Besides, a Resistive touchscreen will have a feedback when you press on it. This screen feels like some sort off glass ( and does not go down ).
The responds to the touch is amazing when compared to a x50v ( resistive touchscreen ). You don't press on it, you swipe the screen.
Typing is very light, because you don't need to press down to register any "clicks". I'm actually typing way faster then on my old x50v, including stylus typing. With the x50v, you had times when you press to soft, that the action will not be registered. On the HD2, every press is perfectly registered.
I fear before, that the keyboard with no stylus might be bad, but the full keyboard is even easy to type ( you don't need to switch to the limited key layouts ), and so soft to do.
Its like stroking a women My GF was actually asking if i love her more then the HD2 ... hmmm, i did not answer
I tried to paint it real good.
This is the structure of the screen.
You have these side boxes with 4 of those dots in it.
Benjiro said:
Are people still debating if the screen if capacitive or not.
Again. Its Capacitive. Its been tested by several people who have HD2's, including myself, and the screen only responds on human skin contact. Try other stuff, and no responds.
Besides, a Resistive touchscreen will have a feedback when you press on it. This screen feels like some sort off glass ( and does not go down ).
The responds to the touch is amazing when compared to a x50v ( resistive touchscreen ). You don't press on it, you swipe the screen.
Typing is very light, because you don't need to press down to register any "clicks". I'm actually typing way faster then on my old x50v, including stylus typing. With the x50v, you had times when you press to soft, that the action will not be registered. On the HD2, every press is perfectly registered.
I fear before, that the keyboard with no stylus might be bad, but the full keyboard is even easy to type ( you don't need to switch to the limited key layouts ), and so soft to do.
Its like stroking a women My GF was actually asking if i love her more then the HD2 ... hmmm, i did not answer
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If we can get a conductive stylus, then we could use a stylus on it I think.
I will experiment when I get an HD2, and see what I can do at uni. Maybe something like a copper stylus, with a rounded edge, so as not to damage the screen?
Wow this is starting to get worse than the moon landing conspiracy nuts.
How many times does this have to be confirmed? Sheesh...
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Wow this is starting to get worse than the moon landing conspiracy nuts.
How many times does this have to be confirmed? Sheesh...
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Lol. I was merely speculating there about what could be done. As all you need is something conductive.
Found some silver conductive paint on Maplin. I'm going to give it a go
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If you are using just your fingers in both cases, I can't imagine what will make the iphone more error prone than typing on a resistive screen... you don't make much sense sorry.
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I can confirm that too. The experience is very diferent, cause in resistive screens you can move your fingers too close too the screen without pulling them up, and then press over the right key... with capacitive this will make lots of mistakes
Hey! I just received the brand new Galaxy Note 10.1 and this is a quick preview I did before I will make a full review and demos for all the functionality. If you have any question at all about any feature or you want specific things shown or demonstrated I will answer them as soon as possible!
http://youtu.be/vFTg8jISv8o
Enjoy!
Handwriting recognition - http://youtu.be/hg0iN2B2yN4
Remote control via infrared - http://youtu.be/Ux63IVTSod8
Formula match and shape match - http://youtu.be/26opB8DRf3c
Multiscreen feature - http://youtu.be/0XPa6a25fgU
Camera interface, photos and video samples - http://youtu.be/u89eh1-BadE
S Pen demo, pressure sensitivity - http://youtu.be/i5o-5aeUZwA
Multitasking, 2GB RAM worth of apps - http://youtu.be/njuARF2lPnY
Adobe Ideas and Photoshop Touch - http://youtu.be/AbXpCVSt7Rc
Wi-Fi reception and internet speed - http://youtu.be/FK_UX5CSygg
HD movies and the loudspeaker - http://youtu.be/LwVAU9lQURw
Action, shooting and strategy games - http://youtu.be/OWkGmDswDOM
Lecture Notes for students - http://youtu.be/U-c4DI2Tr5Y
Tips and tricks - http://youtu.be/tC7z5PCdGLE
Sum up of the features - http://youtu.be/Z3GRJYL98QE
Thanks for the video. Would like to see how well the handwriting recognition works whenever you've got some more time.
A couple of minor points about the video though - there seems to a lot of background noise all throughout the video. The lighting seems to be quite dim as well. But overall, a nice job. Thanks again!
Write a full page of note with equations and what not, please.
As per request I've put together a video for the handwriting recognition. It works very well, but for now there's only support for English.
http://youtu.be/hg0iN2B2yN4
Pretty impressive.
What happens if you write a sentence that is two lines long, does it still recognise it all and show it as a long sentence of text?
Before I filmed I managed to write a paragraph (3-4 lines) at once, but afterwardsI don't know why I couldn't anymore... you could write a lot smaller than I did and a lot more text fits in.
I just tried it again and the thing is you can write as much as you want as long as it's a single sentence, because it not only recognizes the writing, but also tries to understand the meaning to be as precise as possible.
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I just tried it again and the thing is you can write as much as you want as long as it's a single sentence, because it not only recognizes the writing, but also tries to understand the meaning to be as precise as possible.
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Did you know that there is a better way of utilising handwriting recognition? Use the Samsung Keyboard and keep your s pen on the keyboard icon then slide and select the T icon that has a pen symbol neat to it,the icon is located to the left of the space bar. You will now get a handwriting panel where you can start writing, what you write in this panel is converted to text.
To make things even simpler, go to the settings menu which is also located to the left of the space bar and choose the 'Handwriting' option then select "complete recognition" - Now you will be able to write Long sentences in the handwriting panel and also make corrections on the fly before you commit the writing to the notepad. You can also use gestures to add spaces, insert text etc
It will be good if you can make a video of this type of input as it really shows the capabilities of how notes can be taken very quickly and effectively.
Infrared port demo - http://youtu.be/Ux63IVTSod8 . You can use your Note 10.1 as an remote control with the preinstalled Peel Smart Remote app. It supports a wide variety of brands and product types and if a certain control doesn't work you can customize the code.
I made another video showing the handwriting recognition and the formula match and the shape match. I also took on the advice from HasC (thank you very much!) and showed how you can use handwriting as an input anywhere instead of the keyboard.
In my opinion the formula match works incredibly well! It recognizes all sorts of mathematical symbols and as an engineering student, I'll surely use that a lot!
http://youtu.be/26opB8DRf3c
Impressive is correct word.
Does Google own handwriting works ?
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Screen shoot from galaxy S2 stock browser.
If yes to what extent ?
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Impressive is correct word.
Does Google own handwriting works ? View attachment 1271807
Screen shoot from galaxy S2 stock browser.
If yes to what extent ?
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Google's own one does work however it is not as smooth as the Note. It is also quite slow compared to the Notes pen input and this functionality will be more useful to those who do not own a Note and would like an alternative input method.
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Google's own one does work however it is not as smooth as the Note. It is also quite slow compared to the Notes pen input and this functionality will be more useful to those who do not own a Note and would like an alternative input method.
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Thanks, for the quick response.
One more question, does the remote work with other appliances such as air conditioner A/c ?
How is the battery life with and without WiFi.
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As HasC replied, the Google handwriting input works slower because it's online, but it's perfectly compatible with the S Pen.
The remote app (Peel Smart Remote) only works for multimedia devices, but the infrared port is universal. If there are apps in the Play Store designed for A/Cs and so on, it should work just fine.
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Thanks, for the quick response.
One more question, does the remote work with other appliances such as air conditioner A/c ?
How is the battery life with and without WiFi.
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Not sure about the A/c control, The remote app allows you to pick from a number of manufactures or codes for use on televisions.
The battery life is phenomenal but depends on what you use the tab for. Videos,wifi direct etc. will consume the battery far quicker. Yesterday I was practically on the tablet the whole day browsing with the wifi on continuously and by the evening, I had about 47% juice left. The tablet was running since charging for 17 hours and the screen percentage according to the stats was at 82%.
For what was the screen time. Can you use a battery indicator and post the screen shots of the usage. Long battery time without WiFi means can be used as a paper notebook replacement.
So handwriting recognition doesn't work in each and every app ?
I just saw the verge review, it confirmed why he is know as Apple fanboy. http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/8/15/3244180/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review-video
in his review s-pen tool but laggy when using along with a browser window open. Does your do the same ?
He was also writing at quite unusual angles, does it works at such angles?
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For what was the screen time. Can you use a battery indicator and post the screen shots of the usage. Long battery time without WiFi means can be used as a paper notebook replacement.
So handwriting recognition doesn't work in each and every app ?
I just saw the verge review, it confirmed why he is know as Apple fanboy. http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/8/15/3244180/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review-video
in his review s-pen tool but laggy when using along with a browser window open. Does your do the same ?
He was also writing at quite unusual angles, does it works at such angles?
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My screen time was for heavy browsing I have attached a screenshot to demonstrate,
The verge review is a pile of ****, The proof are the videos on this thread. The 0P has demonstrated by intentionally writing badly to show the accuracy of the recognition. I have tried to write at some strange angles when writing this post and the recognition is acceptable bearing in mind people should not be writing at unusual angles when supposedly carrying out professional reviews.
With reference to multitasking on two screens, you need to select the app before trying to use it,this only takes a second to do and activates the app. Even on Windows applications, you need to click on or switch to the application before use , on the Verge review he was just sliding his finger up and down between the two apps and saying it lags, who in the real world will multitask in this manner ?
Thanks but I was looking somethinglike this ?
I don't think even, iPad 3 do true multitasking.
As for handwriting most people won't write at strange or unusual angles while taking notes or in other usual situations.
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Could you test out some of the free Pressure sensitivity apps in the store, like Markers being one of them, sketchbook pro, and so forth? :3
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Could you test out some of the free Pressure sensitivity apps in the store, like Markers being one of them, sketchbook pro, and so forth? :3
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What kind of info are you looking for? I'm an artist and can verify the experience is very good. The only thing holding this back at all is the sketching software is still young. Hopefully some good devs will latch onto this.
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I thought I'd start this thread to consolidate all the info on the features of the Note 10.1 for those new to Android or tablets, those who are on the fence about buying this, or those who just haven't figured out all the cool features yet
Here's some off the top of my head:
Pinch the keyboard to get this:
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You can then move the floating and split keyboards by pushing and holding with 2 fingers.
Press and hold the settings key on the keyboard and select the T icon to switch to handwriting recognition mode.
In the keyboard settings, select "continuous input" for Swype-like functionality.
Feel free to add anything else you might find useful!
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Any clue how I could force the keyboard to appear ?
Background of my question is that "Logmein" desktop -version works nicely in stock browser, chrome and opera but I can' t call up he keyboard once I want to type on the remote pc .......
Just found this out: the screen turns on when you pull the pen out.
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freedomispopular said:
I thought I'd start this thread to consolidate all the info on the features of the Note 10.1 for those new to Android or tablets, those who are on the fence about buying this, or those who just haven't figured out all the cool features yet
Here's some off the top of my head:
Pinch the keyboard to get this:
You can then move the floating and split keyboards by pushing and holding with 2 fingers.
Press and hold the settings key on the keyboard and select the T icon to switch to handwriting recognition mode.
In the keyboard settings, select "continuous input" for Swype-like functionality.
Feel free to add anything else you might find useful!
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Had no idea of the swipe style option available on the keyboard...
Here's a video of tips and tricks I've just whipped up. -> http://youtu.be/tC7z5PCdGLE
This is what I've discovered so far: smart stay, motion gestures, keyboard layouts (displayed by OP), handwriting input, nav keys extra functions, S Pen button, mini apps, screenshot key alternate uses and a demonstration of power, four apps running at the same time all of them shown on the screen at once!
Seems the more I learn about this tablet the more I like it. I had removed all of the Sammyware, but now I've out a few things back. Great thread.
Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
BTW: stil no one has a clue how to force the keyboard to pop up in browser ?
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Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
BTW: stil no one has a clue how to force the keyboard to pop up in browser ?
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I am also wondering if it's possible to do this with the keyboard, if you find something, please keep us updated! Thanks
For a keyboard to pop up it needs to have an input field. it will be useless if you pop it up without anything listening to the keyboard.
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For a keyboard to pop up it needs to have an input field. it will be useless if you pop it up without anything listening to the keyboard.
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Well I have this situation where I need to press F12 to change to another page, but no input field in the page by itself. I tried clicking on the address bar to open the keyboard, but since the focus is not at the right place, it's not working. So I have a situation where it is NOT useless.
I don't know what troed wants to accomplish though.
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Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
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Didn't find where you can shut it off for the whole day. Info, please?
16:10 ratio movie will take up the entire screen in the stock video player - it'll hide the controlls and display edge to,edge.
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Didn't find where you can shut it off for the whole day. Info, please?
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I'm curious as well. I hate lock screens, they don't seem to have any use to me, especially on a tablet. This thing can't turn on in my pocket, I don't wear clown pants(assuming clown pants have giant clown pockets). I just installed the "No Lock" app which does the trick.
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Didn't find where you can shut it off for the whole day. Info, please?
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I'm curious as well. I hate lock screens, they don't seem to have any use to me, especially on a tablet. This thing can't turn on in my pocket, I don't wear clown pants(assuming clown pants have giant clown pockets). I just installed the "No Lock" app which does the trick.
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Settings > Security > Screen security
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troed said:
Nice feature: Lock screen can be shut off completely ......... very handy when You work with N10.1 the entire day
BTW: stil no one has a clue how to force the keyboard to pop up in browser ?
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Thank you! for thast nfo
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Settings > Security > Screen security
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Thanks. More info, please. Already looked there. Maybe my contacts are dirty.
Anyone know if there is any way to go immediately to Google bookmarks in the stock browser instead of local?
toenail_flicker said:
Thanks. More info, please. Already looked there. Maybe my contacts are dirty.
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"None" should be the very last option in the screen lock page.
Nice. Thanks. Yup, seems I need wipers for my contacts.
Here we go in German settings (see attachment)
Why I need the keyboard to be opened even if there is no "call it to screen" input field:
I use "logmein" now for a couple of years for only one reason: to check my patients data base in my clinic.
Once I'm logged in and the remote screen appears I can click the icons to start the program but once I want to type a name ton the remote PC he keyboard does not appear.
Of course there would be other solutions, but I tried Splashtop Remote and other similar apps which do not work since my provider protects my clinic from outside intrusion by a firewall and even after my provider opened the ports necessary to run Splashtop Remote it does not work. After testing a lot of apps in the last two years with my SGSII/III and Note LOGMEIN is the only procedure that works. Of course I could buy the Android app Logmein ignition but look at the rating of this app, the prize and comments that it works very poor if at all. And why should I buy an app when my magnificent Note10.1 can do the same with it's browser ?IF I COULD FORCE THE KEYBOARD TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN TO TYPE ON MY REMOTE PC !!!!!!!!
First of all, what is up with that stupid pan box that covers half your writing area if you are in split screen? I mean seriously how did that crap make it out the front door? Instead how about something brand new like a "scroll bar" that takes up no room at all? I know its crazy but the fact word processors and browsers have used them for years might have tipped someone off that they actually work?
So instead of the proven and unobtrusive scroll bar we get a HUGE pan box right in the middle of everything? Tragic stupidity.
Also, even when I have the page set to pen only input the page keeps zooming in and out everytime I rest my palm on the screen to write. Again, why Samsung why? Do you focus test anything before you release it? With the Note you have now had a year to get this app right and it is still so incredibly broken? Fire everyone and hire some developers who have a clue about usability.
Also, would it KILL you to give me an option for a white piece of lined paper to write on instead of that weird brown color? No we get no white lined paper by we do get about 10 lined options that are nothing like anything I have ever seen in the real world. I mean what IS some of that stuff?
How about letting us design our own templates and choose our own input boxes? How about letting me use a picture from my gallery as a background?
Choices Samsung. Users want choices and you give us none.
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They probably pulled it cause of all the issues it caused, I bet there will be another update to fix things
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davidrules7778 said:
They probably pulled it cause of all the issues it caused, I bet there will be another update to fix things
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One can only hope. But I am coming from the HTC View where they made many insanely stupid choices with their notes app that never got fixed so I am somewhat jaded at this point.
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Contact Samsung via the Samsung mobile facebook page. They actually listened to me in the past.
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So instead of the proven and unobtrusive scroll bar we get a HUGE pan box right in the middle of everything? Tragic stupidity.
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Agreed.
Also, even when I have the page set to pen only input the page keeps zooming in and out everytime I rest my palm on the screen to write.
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I agree this is also annoying. What I found helps is that I set the option to see the crosshairs on the screen when the pen is close, so I know when palm rejection will kick in. Remember, palm rejection only kicks in when the pen is close to the screen, even in pen-only mode (which I agree defeats the purpose of that mode altogether).
Also, would it KILL you to give me an option for a white piece of lined paper to write on instead of that weird brown color?
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I agree with this as well, I was very confused at the lack of options. I can't even set it to legal size.
One thing that you didn't mention that drives me crazy, is the inability to change the name/title of the note while you are in it. You can see the name in the upper left, but you can't long press on it (or click it) to edit. That minor change would be VERY welcome to me.
The "LectureNotes" app is much better than the s-notes app. It works great. It does not have handwriting recognition, but I don't find it that useful in s-notes. What I would like is to OCR the whole thing once I was done taking notes. Anyway, there's a free trial version of LectureNotes available. Give it a try in the Play Store. You can adjust paper color, etc, etc.
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First of all, what is up with that stupid pan box that covers half your writing area if you are in split screen?
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Unless you're panning, why do you need to be in overview mode? You can stay in writing mode and just move the work area around if you need to by pressing two fingers on it. Or am I missing something?
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The "LectureNotes" app is much better than the s-notes app. It works great. It does not have handwriting recognition, but I don't find it that useful in s-notes. What I would like is to OCR the whole thing once I was done taking notes. Anyway, there's a free trial version of LectureNotes available. Give it a try in the Play Store. You can adjust paper color, etc, etc.
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Love LN, and if you need vector graphics there's always Quill, though I've heard others are closing fast. I use 7notes with mazec for the HWR.
I'm kind of using what you guys say is broken as a way of exploring what the Note can (and can't) do. You can basically set any background you want on a note you're creating with seperate designs for the cover and pages within. To get white lined paper, all I did was scan a piece at 600DPI and save it as a JPEG. In settings on the S-Note home page there's an "import" button. I imported the JPEG and presto, lined white paper. It's a pretty cool feature for company letter head, watermarks, and other stuff you might want to use. Granted we should be able to create our own templates but it's a work-around for the time being.
Here's a link to the JPEG on Dropbox if you want to play with it yourselves. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73155531/Scan_Pic0002.jpg
OK as long as we are in full piss and moan mode here, how about if you are using the keyboard and you minimize it. You can't open it again without clicking back to the pen icon and then the keyboard icon again. If you click the keyboard icon when you are already in typing mode it shows you formatting options but the keyboard doesn't reappear.
I would really rather stay with the snotes app if possible than using LectureNotes because it has more functions and i can type.
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OK as long as we are in full piss and moan mode here
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The stuff you're pointing out is absolutely stuff that's helpful. This is my fourth Samsung device so I've gotten pretty good at thinking like a Korean s/w developer. In a lot of cases there's a way of doing what you want you just have to go through the gymnastics to figure out the Korean interpretation.
if you are using the keyboard and you minimize it. You can't open it again without clicking back to the pen icon and then the keyboard icon again. If you click the keyboard icon when you are already in typing mode it shows you formatting options but the keyboard doesn't reappear.
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OK, so I'm in text mode and minimize the keyboard. To get it back I just have to touch the screen anywhere and it reappears. If go to drawing mode, make some squiggles with the pen, and then click the keyboard icon it comes up by itself. EXCEPT: If I've got the pen-only icon active.
After a few months you'll be thinking like a Korean s/w developer too.
your relationship with this tablet is a freaking drama, lol.
I still have the old 0.1 version of S Note in Titanium backup but it does not run (perhaps I would have to delete the write protected version in /system/app first.
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Te he.
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That made me look closer.
In full screen mode not window you can change the background via the drop down menu. When you have the change background window open there is a mountain icon in the top right corner which will open gallery and allow you to set your own background.
I was going to show an example but for some reason when I select Choose File in ther reply software nothing happens it just highlights and the Note 10.1 beeps and that is all.
Ah OK I see. My problem was I had the "pen only" button depressed and thats why the keyboard would not pop up when I touched the screen.
I still cannot figure out what good purpose that panning box serves since we can pan with two fingers???
Lol on the Koreans. Is there a Joe's American Tablet Company somewhere?
Now if someone could just make my handwriting not suck I'd be set.
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your relationship with this tablet is a freaking drama, lol.
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Who, me or mitchellvii? I'm having a blast figuring out what it can and can't do. The level of detail Samsung's applied to s/w is freaking amazing. And, as usual, it’s cryptic and explained nowhere. It’s fun deciphering Samsung's cryptic code to find all the features. It's kind of like putting together a 1K piece all-white puzzle.
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When you have the change background window open there is a mountain icon in the top right corner which will open gallery and allow you to set your own background.
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The mountain icon is for things to stick in a note, not set the background. The maps one is really cool. You can use it just like Google maps but within S-Note for cropping and editing.
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First of all, what is up with that stupid pan box that covers half your writing area if you are in split screen? I mean seriously how did that crap make it out the front door? Instead how about something brand new like a "scroll bar" that takes up no room at all? I know its crazy but the fact word processors and browsers have used them for years might have tipped someone off that they actually work?
So instead of the proven and unobtrusive scroll bar we get a HUGE pan box right in the middle of everything? Tragic stupidity.
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I fear the scroll bar is NOT coming back. Apple has a patent for transparent disappearing vertical and horizontal scroll bars.
Yea, I know it sounds stupid to allow patent for such issues. It got approved last month.
http://www.google.com/patents/US8223134
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I fear the scroll bar is NOT coming back. Apple has a patent for transparent disappearing vertical and horizontal scroll bars.
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They also applied for a stylus patent. Better get your Note's while you can boys.
{
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
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http://mashable.com/2012/05/24/apple-stylus/
BarryH_GEG said:
I'm kind of using what you guys say is broken as a way of exploring what the Note can (and can't) do. You can basically set any background you want on a note you're creating with seperate designs for the cover and pages within. To get white lined paper, all I did was scan a piece at 600DPI and save it as a JPEG. In settings on the S-Note home page there's an "import" button. I imported the JPEG and presto, lined white paper. It's a pretty cool feature for company letter head, watermarks, and other stuff you might want to use. Granted we should be able to create our own templates but it's a work-around for the time being.
Here's a link to the JPEG on Dropbox if you want to play with it yourselves. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/73155531/Scan_Pic0002.jpg
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Thanks for this. Made it a lot easier than what I was gonna do, make one in Photoshop and import. Thanks again!
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That made me look closer.
In full screen mode not window you can change the background via the drop down menu. When you have the change background window open there is a mountain icon in the top right corner which will open gallery and allow you to set your own background.
I was going to show an example but for some reason when I select Choose File in ther reply software nothing happens it just highlights and the Note 10.1 beeps and that is all.
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Hey man that is Fantastic! Lol it never occcured to me to click the little mountain button to get my own background image. Now I can write on a photo of my hot girlfriend
Lol but seriously, I have to find some nice white line paper backgrounds to try out.
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Quick heads-up. This is definitely not supposed to be a release candidate. There are a lot of times when apps crash, you can't change lock-screen background due to system crashes etc etc.
I know there are plenty of other topics all about this OTA. Here I present to you, a feature summary.
Please keep in mind that this most likely IS NOT the final 4.1.1 release that Samsung will put out.
Nevertheless, I hope you guys like it!
Feature-list:
S Note upgrades
S Note Widget
Improved calendar colours
Blocking mode
Text-message backgrounds
new multi-tasking features
Screenshot improvements
Improved text selection
S Note
Ah.. The note taking app from Samsung. I think this app was already pretty decent in 4.0.4, so let's see what some of the changes are.
The first thing that you should notice is that Samsung added a scrolling bar on the side. Sweet! Navigation through the standard navigation icon is still available.
When you active the Pen Only mode, the screen still responds to touch for navigation purposes. Touching the scrollbar to scroll works fine.
Want to know what also works fine? Pinch zooming! And boy oh boy, with this update, you WILL be pinch zooming with your palm while using the S Pen. Hate it..
This pretty much beats the purpose of the pen-only mode for me. Great I can't write with my finger any more.. but my palm keeps zooming in etc. It can't be that bad I hear you say? Well, it wouldn't be if it happened once every 15 minutes or so.. but I get it SO FREQUENTLY.. it annoys the hell out of me.
(Lucky for me, I'm getting a Smudge Guard (sort of a Wacom Cintiq 'glove') which will allow my palm to rest on the screen without any hassle. Was already getting it for drawing purposes )
Something that bothers me a bit, is the fact that with the update, landscape mode is zoomed in past 100% making the text and background blurry by default. Rotating your device to portrait mode ofcourse 'fixes' this, but I like working with my tab in landscape mode. On top of this, it is annoying to manually zoom to 100% because there is NO snapping. Leaving you twitching somewhere between 94~106%.
I don't have OCD, but man o man would I like this baby to snap to 100%
Folder lay-out
I wanted to add this quick tip in here. This was already a feature in 4.0.4 but I don't think many people know of it. You can adjust the width of the 'folder-bar' by selecting the dividing line and dragging it to the left or right. Dragging it all the way to the left, hides the folder lay-out.
Portrait page, covers and backgrounds
First off, you get to choose a new page preset named Landscape note.
Also, some new covers and backgrounds are present in this update. Nothing too fancy, but I think that the music sheet is pretty sweet for those who know how to use it.
New S Note widget
I'm pretty sure that this wasn't included in 4.0.4. Correct me if I'm wrong
New sync options?
Nope! The sync options are still limited to Google Drive and Evernote. No dropbox yet..
Settings
I don't believe anything has changed here, but a screenshot anyway
A nice new 'feature' is the fact that the colours in the agenda have been updated. They are brighter than before and reflect the colours I use in my Google Calender better! Yay!
Blocking mode
In the settings tab you can find an interesting new feature called blocking mode. Allowing you to block notifications, incoming calls etc. It's like an upgraded 'Airplane mode' with nice features like time settings and white-listing contacts.
Background text-messaging
Now you can also add a custom background to your textmessage overview yay!
Multi-tasking upgrade bonanza
At first it didn't seem to me that the multi-tasking was incorporated just yet. I had to search for that son of a gun. Turns out, they've given the 'up' - arrow at the bottom of the screen a pretty big make-over.
Where at first you just had some pop-ups like the S Note, Calculator, World time, etc. You now have a world of 'new' possibilities. I haven't played with this a lot yet, but it seems promising. Although there doesn't seem to be any support for third party apps.
When you press the arrow, you get to select which app you want to open. Also you can arrange the open apps in various lay-outs. Free-floating, and a few grid options (see images). Dragging a free floating app to one side of the screen, has a Windows 7 - like feature, making it expand to that side of the screen.
Now I hear people think, "why isn't there a multi-task button in the apps anymore?". Well, you can easily make a (samsung) app free floating, by dragging downwards from the outside, at the top of your screen. (Just like opening notifications on android smartphones!)
To me all these multi-task features feel a bit 'buggy', but I might have a change of heart when I get used to using it
Improved screenshots
Now you can hold the pen button and DRAG! to immediately marquee an area that you want to cut out and take a snapshot of.
Haven't gotten to testing this a lot, so bear with me on the 2 shots
Improved text selection
When selecting text in 4.1.1 you first get an Apple-like magnifier, which is stylized in a pixel-art-like style. It's pretty small though. The selection markers are a bit smaller and seem to have improved performance. In 4.0.4 I found it rather annoying to use them.. In 4.1.1 it feels much better
If you know how to take a screenshot of the notifications, please let me know. The pen method and the on-screen short-cut don't work.
You miss anything? Request something!
Thank if you like!
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About the multiwindow feature: nice find! Love this more than the "old" way.
Did you also noticed the new way of selecting text. They are using a magnifier now like the iPad/iPhone. Nice steal .. Hope they don't gonna troll Apple by copying everything that is not patented LoL
Thanks for the list. Looks promising for sure!
I don't know how it is in a browser but in tapatalk none of these pics will zoom.
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About the multiwindow feature: nice find! Love this more than the "old" way.
Did you also noticed the new way of selecting text. They are using a magnifier now like the iPad/iPhone. Nice steal .. Hope they don't gonna troll Apple by copying everything that is not patented LoL
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Thanks! Didn't notice that yet. I don't think they'll have any issues, it looks totally different.
@Mitchellvii; All these image-thumbnails are hyperlinked to the images on imgur, where they are hosted. I don't know how to do it differently on this forum
I know it works fine when I use the XDA app, but this was all created on my laptop
Looks nice so far. But as much as I enjoy having 85 different styles of notebook covers to choose from, how about:
1) Allowing us to create and save our own templates? <<< This!
2) Some white lined paper (yeah crazy right?)
3) A "chalkboard" background so we can write in white (hey I'm weird, I prefer whiting in white ink).
Holy s**t! The new multi tasking looks superb!
One X to rule them all
Looks promising with 4.1.1.
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If you know how to take a screenshot of the notifications, please let me know. The pen method and the on-screen short-cut don't work.
You miss anything? Request something!
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Just press the power-button and the volume-down-button together for 1-2 sec
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Just press the power-button and the volume-down-button together for 1-2 sec
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Thanks kind sir! :laugh: :good:
Quick heads-up. This is definitely not supposed to be a release candidate. There are a lot of times when apps crash, you can't change lock-screen background due to system crashes etc etc.
Samsung's new testing team -- XDA members!
Seriously, this is a good method. Their phones/tabs are unlocked, so it's easy for anyone to try Beta software. This allows Samsung to get real in-depth review of bugs in the codes. And it's fun for many people. Just look at SGS3 JB leaks -- new leak every single day. I won't even call them a leak now!
"If you know how to take a screenshot of the notifications, please let me know. The pen method and the on-screen short-cut don't work"
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Actually, anywhere on the taskbar works
Just noticed, if you want to get the bottom bit in the screenshot, i.e, the home, back and task button, do it on one of your homescreens, as it shows up there
Hmm has anyone got the ir function to work?? for me it is dead...
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Hmm has anyone got the ir function to work?? for me it is dead...
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It seems your right, I just tested mine. It doesn't seem to work either.
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So far I've only experienced one app crash in S Note, and also I tried to change the lock screen background and it works for me.
Been using the update for like 2 days now, and it has been suprisingly reliable for me.
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It seems your right, I just tested mine. It doesn't seem to work either.
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So far I've only experienced one app crash in S Note, and also I tried to change the lock screen background and it works for me.
Been using the update for like 2 days now, and it has been suprisingly reliable for me.
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I have not have one single fc app, and i have rooted it too so u can play a littlebit moore..
I wish Samsung is reading this post. But I remain skeptical about this
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I wish Samsung is reading this post. But I remain skeptical about this
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I believe Samsungs developers are reading this forum, if you have a look at http://www.sammobile.com/ you can see that Samsung are leaking a new JB rom for the SIII pretty much every single day, which would make me think that they are actually using the bug reports and posts in the forum to correct bug and leak new releases.
Too scared to have a proper beta program which allow half of the people able to flash it without getting weird errors?
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I am actually more worried about S Note.. If the final version does not disable pinch to zoom in pen only mode, my palm will definitely mess everything up. The it will be a deal breaker and I may not upgrade to jelly bean coz I take notes extensively
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In case anyone on an 8013 wonders if this works for us, yes it does, im running it right now. For good instructions look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876644
One thing I have noticed is that the stock browser ia MUCH faster, especially when accessing your Google bookmarks. That used to lag badly when opening but no more.
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