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Just got pwnd by At&T-Mobile

Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access may be blocked unless you add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
followed by this within seconds of the first msg :
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
I remember them talking about cracking down on people tethering without a tether plan
but didn't think it was possible

I didn't get that message
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Do you tether often? Or download a lot when you tether?
Maybe you're just one of those users that has exceeded what they consider "normal" and "average" usage.

How much data do you use a month?

Never download. but I'm sure it's being exceeded when I play starcraft II lol.
I did stream Netflix heavily and would get capped to edge after hitting 5gb+ but that was months ago. I never received messages or got regulated after I stopped up until today while I was browsing casually.

This crap should be illegal.
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I had heard that was going around, anyone know how they are doing it?
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I think they are randomly sending ppl messages. They sent my gf a message today saying about parental control for 4.99 so kids dont go over minutes or messages. We have 3 lines and all three have unlimited everything so message was pretty lame.
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resinous said:
Never download. but I'm sure it's being exceeded when I play starcraft II lol.
I did stream Netflix heavily and would get capped to edge after hitting 5gb+ but that was months ago. I never received messages or got regulated after I stopped up until today while I was browsing casually.
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That's probably how they busted you, not quite aware of any phone that can play Starcraft II, all they would need to know is the servers used for the game... might have just been excessive use I suppose.

played SCII while tethered from my phone to PC is what I meant. Not directly from my Nexus 1, lol.

resinous said:
played SCII while tethered from my phone to PC is what I meant. Not directly from my Nexus 1, lol.
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That's exactly what I meant, the only way you could do it would be through tethering...

resinous said:
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access may be blocked unless you add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
followed by this within seconds of the first msg :
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
I remember them talking about cracking down on people tethering without a tether plan
but didn't think it was possible
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Sent them an official letter asking them how they have come to this conclusion.
Have they been monitoring your traffic? If yes, did they have police permission to do so, and if yes on what grounds. Declare that you consider taking legal action against them for privacy concerns.

Yeah there have been rumors that they'll start charging for those they believe are tethering without permission.
The only way they can discover this is if they are sniffing/recording your packets, and this is a major privacy concern, as even secure (https) communication can be read if they record the keys in a packet stream.
All your bank info, and email, and any other service you use, via tethering or just on the phone is potentially at risk if they are snooping around to see if you're tethering.

Not really...
Your device broadcasts it's ID pretty much everywhere it goes. All they have to do is look for tablets going through their servers...
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danger-rat said:
Your device broadcasts it's ID pretty much everywhere it goes. All they have to do is look for tablets going through their servers...
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You're going to have to define what you mean, because being in Networking/IT for 8 years, I know what you're saying but they still have to sniff your packets.
I think they're going based on data amount, from what people are saying. Which is why my family has not gotten a notice.

I definitely abused the tethering privileges. I'm probably one of the select few to get this notice.

georgemv said:
Sent them an official letter asking them how they have come to this conclusion.
Have they been monitoring your traffic? If yes, did they have police permission to do so, and if yes on what grounds. Declare that you consider taking legal action against them for privacy concerns.
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But aren't you also breaking the rules since you're tethering without a tethering plan?

My concern isn't about tethering my concern is that they are spying on data itself to tell that you are tethering. I work for a company that uses https for web mail. And that's a major privacy concern since we handle sensitive data.
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flibbertigibbet007 said:
You're going to have to define what you mean, because being in Networking/IT for 8 years, I know what you're saying but they still have to sniff your packets.
I think they're going based on data amount, from what people are saying. Which is why my family has not gotten a notice.
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Well, from my limited knowledge, I believe that a service broadcasts certain information about itself in order to communicate effectively with other devices...
Hulu block android.
Web pages render for mobile devices.
When I log on to my bank from a new device, I have authenticate it (and it's not cookie based).
Digital fingerprints contain a ton of information that you, the user, make available to any service you interact with...
My guess is that the carrier looks at large data users, and scrutinizes the use. I would also say that the carrier is well within their rights to confirm that services using their network are authorized to do so?
Correct me if i'm wrong - it won't be the first time... xD
What I don't agree with is the fact that, if I pay for 5G of data, what the hell does it matter how I use it? If I tether my nook to download music it's wrong, but if I download it on my phone and transfer via SD that's OK? Just wierd to me...
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danger-rat said:
Hulu block android.
Web pages render for mobile devices.
When I log on to my bank from a new device, I have authenticate it (and it's not cookie based).
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+Hulu, can tell based on browser data that is sent over http. and I believe flash also provides data about what system you're on. (also they can tell by your public ip address what you're probably using their service from, like a cell phone)
+Webpages, also they get browser responces in headers over http. And redirect you to a mobile page. (eg. m.website.com)
+Bank accounts, I know exactly what you mean about this, they normally can tell from IP address only. But other than that it's cookie, and Mac address(probably from a java call?)
In my opinion, I believe it's going beyond the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 2000:
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju67343.000/hju67343_0.htm
But I don't know the full details of the act, I'm going on my understanding.
Of course I'm talking only about US Customers of ATandT.
Edit: So from what I've read, the privacy act would only not allow any information they can provide about how they know you're using tethering as evidence in a court case, so a lawsuit against them would ultimately win in the customers favor.

Skype video for Xoom/3.1?

I find it insanely ridiculous that this Skype update didn't bring Video calling to the Xoom ( hell, not even to the Thunderbolt). Is there anybody working on a customized apk to have video calling work on the Xoom( unrooted, just install the apk no mods or anything). Link to a thread? Thanks
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glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?

Lothaen said:
glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?
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Not sure, I did see an apk for other devices (Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S 2, etc) but none for Xoom. Anyone have a clue if this has worked for Xoom?
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I find it ridicuolous that they couldn't release support more phones and devices. Can someone post the apk?

Here you could find modified apk that works with other devices. I tried to install it on the XOOM, but I couldn't pass registration page. It's just return you to main screen without any feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
DEVs please modify it that we could use it on our XOOM tables.

Anyone here working on it?
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Guys I got a Skype update for my Transformer via Android Market and it sort of looks like a tablet app. High resolution graphics and stuff, you know. Also, it mentioned video calling on start up, I think - but I couldn't figure out how to use it. This is definately coming, give it a few more days

Skype almost worked
I downloaded and installed Skype awhile ago and was able to create an account but then it said it was unable to connect me to the network
Dunno why it wouldn't connect to my wi-fi network ... but it was exciting for a few minutes when it looked like it was going to work. After creating an account it went into connecting mode and until the error message popped up about not being able to connect it looked like it was going to work.
So close ... it almost made it. Perhaps it would work for someone on Verizon.

So far the only device added to the list of compatible devices is the Nexus S 4g. Not a single tablet.
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Skype with video chat for the thunderbolt was leaked like 3 months ago. I'm surprised it wasnt released during the official launch especially since the Thunderbolt was the first device skype with video was supposed to launch on.

Yeah I find this all very weird. Who knows, they did stop making Skype a Verizon exclusive... maybe that's why
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Well Verizon just unloaded that turkey to Microsoft. It's their problem now. Lol.
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I think what's obvious is that the skype video is basically a hack and not like google talk video since its so phone specific
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Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.

edengberg said:
Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.
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Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)

JanetPanic said:
Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)
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Thanks for correcting my post. I will still refrain from using Skype.

Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.

stobal02 said:
Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.
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That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.

LiViD said:
That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.
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With video, the point of using Skype on a tablet...
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So wait, I got a XOOM, and SKYPE works in general, can chat and voice talk, but NOT Video talk.... am I missing something?
Thanks

Look, ChromeOS running on the Transformer.

Look.
http://f.cl.ly/items/043W2g391H0j2Z3m2n0N/IMG_7008.JPG
It is legit and will probably be finished in not too long. (I'm not the dev, hexxeh is.)
Going to be awesome, apparently everything is working atm, except some HW acceleration stuff, due to chromium having some weird bugs.
Currently booting from a USB Stick via the Dual Boot android method posted by lilsteve (I think this is how he did it not 100% sure) So dual boot with Android should be very, very possible.

I want this...
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TheDeadCpu said:
Look.
http://f.cl.ly/items/043W2g391H0j2Z3m2n0N/IMG_7008.JPG
It is legit and will probably be finished in not too long. (I'm not the dev, hexxeh is.)
Going to be awesome, apparently everything is working atm, except some HW acceleration stuff, due to chromium having some weird bugs.
Currently booting from a USB Stick via the Dual Boot android method posted by lilsteve (I think this is how he did it not 100% sure) So dual boot with Android should be very, very possible.
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Thanks TDC. This is great.

Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.

klau1 said:
Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.
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True .

Wow...
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klau1 said:
Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.
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So how often would you open Chrome on your TF without an active internet connection?

This is awesome. Thank for the news, can't wait.

Oh yes!!!

Xxq TZ pxX said:
So how often would you open Chrome on your TF without an active internet connection?
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How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?

how about a video of it running?

klau1 said:
How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?
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It will work with dual boot with android...
Ellerbestyle said:
how about a video of it running?
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Will get that when it's publicly available.

IMO I don't see the point of running ChromeOS on an Android device, ChromeOS is essentially just a web browser that runs web apps where as you can do all sorts of things with your Android device.

brando56894 said:
IMO I don't see the point of running ChromeOS on an Android device, ChromeOS is essentially just a web browser that runs web apps where as you can do all sorts of things with your Android device.
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It's cause it's awesome and chrome os would probably be more web-compliant and you would probably have more luck runing websites that wouldn't normally work on android like, say, a java site, or even hulu

But lets face it, browsing in android is far from perfect, and Linux isnt completely working yet , so this is a great option. If you dont care about it, then simply ignore this post.
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Ellerbestyle said:
how about a video of it running?
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This.
The key to this being widely accepted is how well it performs, such as boot time and loading speed of HTML5 and Flash web pages. Chromebooks are designed to be instant-on devices, and if it still takes a good 45 seconds to boot up on a Transformer, then there's no point to running it over Android.

Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?

klau1 said:
Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?
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Umm...too many things to say, wont bother.
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klau1 said:
How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?
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I have a cr48, i love it.
Also this would be great for a 3g transformer.
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klau1 said:
Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?
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That's just a stupid reason to not use cloud service. Whoever doesn't backup locally is an idiot. People worried about losing files on Google Music/Doc when they start charging doesn't make any sense. Are you going to stop using gmail as well and host your own email server? There are always alternatives on internet.
People have been talking about charging fees for gmail, youtube, facebook...but it never happened.
Guess what, technology evolves. The cost of storage and server will drop lower and lower.

Ad Block

Any way I can add an Ad block to the phone or do I have to wait for root and custom roms?

Google AdGuard. I heard it has some functionality w/o root.
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A lot of people in the other S7 threads are suggesting an app called Block This! Might be worth checking it out. I haven't tried it yet, just seen others mentioning it in the threads.
Block This! - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.savageorgiev.blockthis

dazednconfused said:
A lot of people in the other S7 threads are suggesting an app called Block This! Might be worth checking it out. I haven't tried it yet, just seen others mentioning it in the threads.
Block This! - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.savageorgiev.blockthis
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This App seems suspicious, the version on App store apparently is outdated and asks us to download the newer version from their website. The newer one wants to setup a VPN, not really sure if it's legit !

Romin69 said:
This App seems suspicious, the version on App store apparently is outdated and asks us to download the newer version from their website. The newer one wants to setup a VPN, not really sure if it's legit !
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Yeah I haven't tried it, I've just seen a lot of people suggesting it in other S7 threads.

Romin69 said:
This App seems suspicious, the version on App store apparently is outdated and asks us to download the newer version from their website. The newer one wants to setup a VPN, not really sure if it's legit !
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Its not suspicious at all. Its just been removed from PlayStore doesn't mean violating Google rule. I've been using it Since v2.0 as Developer seems to legit and whatever he describes you can cross check on Google+ Or Facebook.
Lastly, AdGuard does it job well, but ideal battery drain would be a huge issue for some. Whereas this one doesn't have battery drain issue, yet blocks the ads quicker. Check for requirements on PlayStore or while installing, I'm sure, you'll change your opinion.
Also there's one more AdBlocker with ROOT! named AdClear, search on XDA.

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Yeah I haven't tried it, I've just seen a lot of people suggesting it in other S7 threads.
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Found this on dev's website, I think I'll wait for root access.
"The only problem with this approach is, that for Android there are strict rules about who and how DNS can be changed. Normally changing the DNS directly needs ROOT access (i.e. your android device to be rooted). In order to work around this issue, "Block This" for Android creates, what we call a local VPN (Virtual Private Network) and all of your apps/browser traffic is routed through this VPN. This VPN is carefully configured to only modify the DNS settings of your network, while preserving your internet speed and not sending out any traffic to external VPN servers. "

I use AdGuard and it works great. You have to purchase it but I have been using it for awhile now and it's worth it.

Yeah adguard works well no root just purchase it to get ads blocked through out
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Romin69 said:
This App seems suspicious, the version on App store apparently is outdated and asks us to download the newer version from their website. The newer one wants to setup a VPN, not really sure if it's legit !
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It's the way most/all ad blockers work if you don't have root. VPN let you change the way the network works in ways you can't without it.
Not saying I like it, I use a VPN for security when on untrusted WiFi, and for watching Netflix while abroad.
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Using " Block This. Adguard is subscription based, I still have a few months left.
I don't know if Block This will stay free forever though. Both work fine.
I do notice a reduction in wifi throughput on internet speed tests with Adguard. We have a 10Gbps link here that's limited to around 5-600Mbps on wifi. On my Note 5 with Adguard on I typically see 200Mbps max. With it off it will hit 500+.
Block This does not have this effect as far as I can see.
Aside from that (which most people probably won't see LOL) they are pretty much the same.
My biggest gripe is you cannot get rid of that stupid key icon. But that is an Android thing not a fault of either app.

Got an email today regarding Adguard. They are/will be supporting https. This means youtube ads in app will now be blocked! That's great news indeed!

I'm using the Samsung browser with ad block plus for Samsung browser. If I want a faster browser and save data I use opera with data savings.
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Best free VPN?

Hey all.. this may not be a 6P specific question but what is everyone using for VPN these days? I'm looking for a free, no registration needed, no logging, one touch, fast VPN, that is trustworthy. Anyone have any suggestions?

You're not going to find that for free. Even some paid vpns still log. They're cheap, though. The best bet you can get for free is try tunnelbear or zenmate or hola, the last two being chrome extensions.
I recommend going to cryptostorm.is they are cheap, and the most secure VPN with best tech, support crypto currencies, anonymous accounts done via tokens, no logs, and they have warrant canary incase they get seized.
Hope this helps, cheers.

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You're not going to find that for free. Even some paid vpns still log. They're cheap, though. The best bet you can get for free is try tunnelbear or zenmate or hola, the last two being chrome extensions.
I recommend going to cryptostorm.is they are cheap, and the most secure VPN with best tech, support crypto currencies, anonymous accounts done via tokens, no logs, and they have warrant canary incase they get seized.
Hope this helps, cheers.
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That sounds pretty intense. I wasn't actually looking for something that crazy.. mainly just something to add another layer of security on given the crap I've read about privacy lately. Is all that really needed or is one of the free options on the play store "good enough" for just app usage and web browsing? I don't do anything like torrents, etc.

jrg67 said:
That sounds pretty intense. I wasn't actually looking for something that crazy.. mainly just something to add another layer of security on given the crap I've read about privacy lately. Is all that really needed or is one of the free options on the play store "good enough" for just app usage and web browsing? I don't do anything like torrents, etc.
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Sorry for being over the top. If you aren't doing anything demanding (Netflix streaming, etc) and just want it for simple browser and app usage, then yeah, a free vpn will suffice. Try hola from the Google play store. It will do exactly what you need. You could always use Tor, download "Orbot" and "Orfox", which is free, and privades great privacy, but is pretty slow.

notstevek said:
Sorry for being over the top. If you aren't doing anything demanding (Netflix streaming, etc) and just want it for simple browser and app usage, then yeah, a free vpn will suffice. Try hola from the Google play store. It will do exactly what you need. You could always use Tor, download "Orbot" and "Orfox", which is free, and privades great privacy, but is pretty slow.
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Don't be sorry! I'm sure someone will find that info useful. I just tried hola and I'm not really a fan of it. Weird UI and not much explanation of the settings and what they are doing. I seem to recall there was a Dev on here that created a simple one touch VPN app but I can't find it anywhere. All I remember was that it was a red icon with the VPN key. Not sure if that was "good" or if the dev stopped development or changed it up. I see a lot of these VPN apps are based in China which I'm not so trusting of. Honestly been meaning to do this for a while now but I guess I didn't realize the amount of apps out there.

jrg67 said:
Don't be sorry! I'm sure someone will find that info useful. I just tried hola and I'm not really a fan of it. Weird UI and not much explanation of the settings and what they are doing. I seem to recall there was a Dev on here that created a simple one touch VPN app but I can't find it anywhere. All I remember was that it was a red icon with the VPN key. Not sure if that was "good" or if the dev stopped development or changed it up. I see a lot of these VPN apps are based in China which I'm not so trusting of. Honestly been meaning to do this for a while now but I guess I didn't realize the amount of apps out there.
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Best bet maybe just try out any you see in the play store until you find one you like that works and provides those features. Best bet is one that serves ads, if it sounds too good to be true for free, it means you're probably being datamined, at least if they serve ads you know they are getting some revenue, making their free claim understandable. I recommended hola because I've seen a friend use it, personally have a paid VPN. The one true free way to be anonymous is Tor and that's free, but it's slow. Good luck on the hunt.