But the amount of people posting with problems and faults isn't funny, I don't think I've ever saw such a fast moving forum for a phone, if they're so good why is this. I for one am seriously thinking of getting an HTC 1X because I'm sick of the lag on this and did everything I've read about. So I guess that's one fault they haven't fixed
Stu1973 said:
But the amount of people posting with problems and faults isn't funny, I don't think I've ever saw such a fast moving forum for a phone, if they're so good why is this. I for one am seriously thinking of getting an HTC 1X because I'm sick of the lag on this and did everything I've read about. So I guess that's one fault they haven't fixed
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I'd guess the number of posts reflect the number of S3 phones, over 40 million sold. Even a small percentage of these people having 'issues', many of which are their own dumb fault, result in thousands of posts but the number of unique bugs are very small.
There are several remaining, now the sudden death is hopefully gone, none fatal. The only lag I get on my phone is a second or so when waking, which I think reflects the very low power consumption I find. I don't view it as a bug, more a feature of the phone.
I've just come from the HTC Sensation and the S3 wins easily on all aspects; component, software and build quality especially. Good luck with the 1X, best go read their forum first to understand the issues with that handset.
boomboomer said:
The only lag I get on my phone is a second or so when waking, which I think reflects the very low power consumption I find. I don't view it as a bug, more a feature of the phone.
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I get that too....but it's also when coming from being on the net then opening either texes, contacts or calls, it takes 3-4 secs to open, it's a pita....I dont get this with my old HTC Desire S and it's not nearly as powerfull.
So you think the one x is a worse phone, personally I think it's down to personal preference now.....dont get me wrong, I like the S3, but this laging really pisses me off, for such an expensive, fast phone, that's one thing that's not good
Haha are you serious?
Do you realise only the people that have a problem with a phone will come here to complain right? The other 99.99% of the population don't bother cos their phone is working fine!
If you're talking about the wakeup lag, I believe that's down to SVoice but not sure, tbh it doesn't bother me too much but that is the only lag I get on this device. If that's the really bothering you that much then you'll be better off with a different phone.
Stu1973 said:
So you think the one x is a worse phone, personally I think it's down to personal preference now.....dont get me wrong, I like the S3, but this laging really pisses me off, for such an expensive, fast phone, that's one thing that's not good
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I've not had the 1X so have no idea, it's just my opinion on HTC coming from what I thought was a good phone (the Sensation) and finding it was no comparsion to Samsung's S3.
Stu1973 said:
So you think the one x is a worse phone
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Horrible battery life :silly: IDK whether its fixed with JB, I switched to S3 before JB was released.
Hi there,
"I know they say the S3 is a great phone" - I say they're right!
Stu1973 said:
But the amount of people posting with problems and faults isn't funny, I don't think I've ever saw such a fast moving forum for a phone
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As mentioned before, only people with problems post here. If everyone without
problems would post here... crowded But seriously if ALL people with "great" phones
would post here (e.g. without Android like iphone users or RIM) I think the
severity of problems would be balanced out.
I got some dark spots too. But that is "meckern auf hohem Niveau" as we say
in german (complaining on high level). Because (as mentioned before) you
can see these paticular flaws only under certain circumstances.
They'll never effect your daily usage.
And if (by any chance) your phones screen really is done for in let's say
3 years... Will you even be having the same phone then? Not that it's cool
to have a phone with just 3 years life expectancy, I have older phones like
my Ericcson T65 which still doing fine... (That was a cool little brick^^)
But anyway...
Long story short: everything has it's shortcomings. Our phones have black
spots on their screens which can only be seen at night on a black screen.
The heck with it^^
Regards, Clobon :fingers-crossed:
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But the amount of people posting with problems and faults isn't funny, I don't think I've ever saw such a fast moving forum for a phone, if they're so good why is this. I for one am seriously thinking of getting an HTC 1X because I'm sick of the lag on this and did everything I've read about. So I guess that's one fault they haven't fixed
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You must be aware that 99% of faults reported on XDA are dumb user problems .
There will be in the twenty or forty million phones sold a number with problems .
Just because mine has never lagged does not mean others have the same set-up or even the same build of phone component wise .
Real solution for the OP is to sell the phone posting here will not make it better .
Judged on past posts OP has a network problem .
Can anyone get on the net with their HD2 on 02 payg
Bad lag when coming off the net
Cant connect with pc..
and more judge for yourself .
jje
First if you want to see actual problems with the phone check a forum that isn't developer based "I flashed an I9305 rom and my POS phone stopped working this phone SUCKS!!!" is a user problem, they made a mistake and it stopped working.
The only problem with the phone is the SDS issue, which Samsung are working to fix or have fixed, (impossible to tell which for certain)
You also have to think that out of the 40 million devices sold, the complaints are probably from around 1% of people if that look at it like that then the S3 is a hugely reliable phone.
The people who are vocal are the ones that are disappointed, for every vocal person saying that the phone sucks there will be 2000 people who are satisfied but don't shout about it.
Also on lag I see lag in the widgets draw (when it has just been opened) but I rarely go there so that doesn't matter and the dialer and contacts take a few seconds to open, which is bearable, apart from there I never see lag, the phone is extremely smooth, scrolling is designed to be a more smooth motion in TW, whereas AOSP is designed to be an instant snap motion.
The phone is definitely not as laggy as you think I imagine you think the lag is so bad because you don't know the difference between lag and an animation purposely created.
Please OP, name a device that has sold over 20 million units, that doesn't have a list of people online complaining about issues. Doubt you'll find one
I am pretty sure if you find any product, be it a TV, games console or a phone, you will find problems. People are more likely to post negative comments than positive.
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I love my s3 more than my kids, I've dropped it from great heights onto concrete, tarmac & mezzanines. Still going strong- yes its got a couple of knicks on the corner but the screen hasnt got 1 mark or scratch. Its faster than my s2 by miles, in fact its only the contacts that seems to have a slight 1 sec delay but otherwise it's lightening quick. I use my s2 as a radio/mp3 player- thats it, my s3 is now my main toy.
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Hello everyone i am One X user, and i'll try to give to OP the most fair and honest comparison between these two. Now i don't own an s3 but my cousin does and we hang alot together and we did literally every possible comparison between those two in every possible aspect you can think of and i also used his s3 ALOT.
Ok so as for design everyone should admit HoX is better looking and also better build quality so build and design goes for HoX
Screen : S3 has a little bit bigger screen then hox , somewhere around half of the notification in height and half of half in width , screen sharpness is better on HOX simpy cuz s3 uses pentile and HoX uses RGB , also SLCD2 is brighter for around 30% compered ot s3, as for vieving angles that also goes for HOX and for viewing outside on the sun HoX is also better , so conclusion = Hox has better and sharper screen ( SLCD2 is still considered as the best display due time )
Battery : S3 beats hox in battery life hands down , that is for SCREEN on time, avarage we could see on s3 was around 6 hrs while hox was 4-5 tops (personally i've reached over 7hrs with hox on jb but that was with alot of tweeking and literally every smart option off on 20% brigness ) anyhow battery life goes to S3 , avarage 1 hour 1:30 more then hox , as for deep sleep hox is better thx to companion core. (battery saver core the 5th core )
STOCK user experience = S3 has much better apps then HoX , S-voice , multie view, more options overall then HoX. so this one goes for S3 ( tho you can pretty much add any of these with 3rd party apps )
Speed in system = no doubt S3 wins here , mainly because touch wizz is MUCH lighter launcher then Sense , although sense looks better and prettier much more then touch wizz , on the other test we did for speed was i've installed some ported touch wizz launcher and there were no difference both phones were equally faster.
Web browsing = this one goes to HoX , after jelly bean update hox became different phone , every aspect of the phone improved alot, browsing , benchmarks screen got brighter and sharper , sound got louder and many other things, as well speed improved overall alot, for those who belive in quadrant hox was avarage getting 6800 quadrant on stock and 7000-7100 custom rom. while S3 was getting avarage 6k 6200 custom. - heres the link with stock jb benchmarks of hox after 1st jb update, this are a little bit different and faster now on hox http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_for_htc_one_x_boosts_performance-news-5010.php
GAMING = gameloft games did work better on S3 but they did look better at some point on hox thx to better screen but still in stock comparison S3 won in this part of gaming and overall , when using tegra games obviously hox won, tegra games have much more details then any other games ATM. Tho when we tested hox vs s3 with custom kernel (gpu and cpu/gpu clocks also gouvernor settings fixed) hox outperformed S3 , Belive it or not Hox has better and faster hardware but thx to sense and CPU- GPU frequenciess scalling and governor settings HOX is not capable of showing his true power. So i would call it EVEN in gaming since hox can outperform S3 in gameloft games only with custom kernel , but stock vs stock s3 has won. ( btw note this gaming on custom kernel were tested on HoX+ kernel unofficial , we still need the source for JB kernel on Hox , after that everything should be better on hox )
Music and speaker = Music , no doubt hox provides better music sound and louder alot thx to Beats audia (with beats audio mods this gets 50% better then stock ) as for speaker loudness = S3 , s3 has no doubt louder speaker then hox and i would say with less disortation then hox.
ROMS customisation , stock vs stock S3 wins hands down, but when we took it on custom HoX won , viperX rom for hox simply puts HoX on the next level with customisation, so Custom roms = HoX , also CM / aosp / aokp roms are better optimised on hox then S3 since sammy refused to give you guys the source.
So finall words from me and this comparison = It's literally all to personal preference. Both phones have great features, read this and think about what things out of this are important for you and your usage. my suggestion is = if you care about battery life you should stick with s3.
Anyway i hope i've helped with this to other who are also thinking about this and i hope i've helped to OP , if by any chance i've forgot something excuse me , this was fast typing since im in a rush atm, anyway good luck choosing what is better for you.
Edit - forgot to add camera lol, anyway overall s3 wins here as well , front facing camera and rear camera are better on hox, only thing hox did better in this matter was pictures in dark , makes less noise then s3.
Battery life is amazing, my battery just died after 4:30 hours on screen in total, and it was charged on sunday (so 4:30 hours on screen and 2 days without charge ), the phone is amazing,
It's fine if you are a casual user and wont notice the ****ty performance. LOL my old xperia arc is smoother then this samsung crap
I don't have any wake up lag!
Yay!
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@OP
Seeing as you are posting in questions and answers.......what exactly is your question?
Thats because ppl use stock roms, its not hardware problems
JJEgan said:
You must be aware that 99% of faults reported on XDA are dumb user problems .
There will be in the twenty or forty million phones sold a number with problems .
Just because mine has never lagged does not mean others have the same set-up or even the same build of phone component wise .
Real solution for the OP is to sell the phone posting here will not make it better .
Judged on past posts OP has a network problem .
Can anyone get on the net with their HD2 on 02 payg
Bad lag when coming off the net
Cant connect with pc..
and more judge for yourself .
jje
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Yes the past posts were bad, as was the HD2
When I said bad lag when coming off the net, what I meant was, yes when off it, then opening texes, contacts or calls....it takes 2-4 seconds to open them....once they're open, and you open them again, there's no lag, it's just immediately after the net
I'm on VM 20mb (we up too, I know you rarely get that) and never had much trouble with it....(you know what'll happen now lol)
delsus said:
The phone is definitely not as laggy as you think I imagine you think the lag is so bad because you don't know the difference between lag and an animation purposely created.
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As said before, I turned S Voice, animations off, and any apps (and there was a few) that were running were also stopped, if lag is the time between pressing the icon and it opening, then that's what I'm talking about, and that's what's annoying
Otherwise...
A bloody brilliant phone
Shan89 said:
Hello everyone i am One X user, and i'll try to give to OP the most fair and honest comparison between these two. Now i don't own an s3 but my cousin does and we hang alot together and we did literally every possible comparison between those two in every possible aspect you can think of and i also used his s3 ALOT.
Ok so as for design everyone should admit HoX is better looking and also better build quality so build and design goes for HoX
Screen : S3 has a little bit bigger screen then hox , somewhere around half of the notification in height and half of half in width , screen sharpness is better on HOX simpy cuz s3 uses pentile and HoX uses RGB , also SLCD2 is brighter for around 30% compered ot s3, as for vieving angles that also goes for HOX and for viewing outside on the sun HoX is also better , so conclusion = Hox has better and sharper screen ( SLCD2 is still considered as the best display due time )
Battery : S3 beats hox in battery life hands down , that is for SCREEN on time, avarage we could see on s3 was around 6 hrs while hox was 4-5 tops (personally i've reached over 7hrs with hox on jb but that was with alot of tweeking and literally every smart option off on 20% brigness ) anyhow battery life goes to S3 , avarage 1 hour 1:30 more then hox , as for deep sleep hox is better thx to companion core. (battery saver core the 5th core )
STOCK user experience = S3 has much better apps then HoX , S-voice , multie view, more options overall then HoX. so this one goes for S3 ( tho you can pretty much add any of these with 3rd party apps )
Speed in system = no doubt S3 wins here , mainly because touch wizz is MUCH lighter launcher then Sense , although sense looks better and prettier much more then touch wizz , on the other test we did for speed was i've installed some ported touch wizz launcher and there were no difference both phones were equally faster.
Web browsing = this one goes to HoX , after jelly bean update hox became different phone , every aspect of the phone improved alot, browsing , benchmarks screen got brighter and sharper , sound got louder and many other things, as well speed improved overall alot, for those who belive in quadrant hox was avarage getting 6800 quadrant on stock and 7000-7100 custom rom. while S3 was getting avarage 6k 6200 custom. - heres the link with stock jb benchmarks of hox after 1st jb update, this are a little bit different and faster now on hox http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_for_htc_one_x_boosts_performance-news-5010.php
GAMING = gameloft games did work better on S3 but they did look better at some point on hox thx to better screen but still in stock comparison S3 won in this part of gaming and overall , when using tegra games obviously hox won, tegra games have much more details then any other games ATM. Tho when we tested hox vs s3 with custom kernel (gpu and cpu/gpu clocks also gouvernor settings fixed) hox outperformed S3 , Belive it or not Hox has better and faster hardware but thx to sense and CPU- GPU frequenciess scalling and governor settings HOX is not capable of showing his true power. So i would call it EVEN in gaming since hox can outperform S3 in gameloft games only with custom kernel , but stock vs stock s3 has won. ( btw note this gaming on custom kernel were tested on HoX+ kernel unofficial , we still need the source for JB kernel on Hox , after that everything should be better on hox )
Music and speaker = Music , no doubt hox provides better music sound and louder alot thx to Beats audia (with beats audio mods this gets 50% better then stock ) as for speaker loudness = S3 , s3 has no doubt louder speaker then hox and i would say with less disortation then hox.
ROMS customisation , stock vs stock S3 wins hands down, but when we took it on custom HoX won , viperX rom for hox simply puts HoX on the next level with customisation, so Custom roms = HoX , also CM / aosp / aokp roms are better optimised on hox then S3 since sammy refused to give you guys the source.
So finall words from me and this comparison = It's literally all to personal preference. Both phones have great features, read this and think about what things out of this are important for you and your usage. my suggestion is = if you care about battery life you should stick with s3.
Anyway i hope i've helped with this to other who are also thinking about this and i hope i've helped to OP , if by any chance i've forgot something excuse me , this was fast typing since im in a rush atm, anyway good luck choosing what is better for you.
Edit - forgot to add camera lol, anyway overall s3 wins here as well , front facing camera and rear camera are better on hox, only thing hox did better in this matter was pictures in dark , makes less noise then s3.
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Good reading that, thanks
Related
Ok, so I was really interested in getting Evo this friday.. but now I decided to wait...
I watched a video of Samsung Galaxy S showing crazy neocore score, smooooth 3d shooting game, and multitouch test compared to HTC phone..
So I really wanna know now how HTC Evo is compared to some devices:
1. How is battery life with regular use (no 4g, no wifi, no gps on, medium brightness, 20-40 mins talk, some txting/gtalk, light web browsing)? Compared to other HTC phones?
Edit: Other thread has some reviews about it, but I still wonder if it's possible to get 14-18 hours with some web browsing and texting/gtalk.
I know Samsung will have much better battery life cuz of sAmoled screen.
2. How is multitouch test using market app compared to Galaxy S video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg).. yes, I know it's worse on Evo cuz of its double screen, but how bad?
3. How is audio quality (mp3 music) compared to iPod? (I know iPod is not a standard to compare to but at least I'll have an idea). And how loud is speaker (ringers) compared to any other HTC phones?
Since Galaxy S should come to Sprint too sometimes this summer (based on rumors) I'm kinda considering it...
Yes I know Samsung SUCKS for its support.. And I dont like GalaxyS's look and its UI (reminds me of some ugly phone...)
BUT I can deal with the look and just use home replacement, and I dont care about 4G, AS LONG AS its hardware kills EVO (better battery life, screen, PROCESSOR FASTER THAN SNAPDRAGON, GRAPHICS, better audio quality)..
So don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing EVO (I love how it looks) but I just wanna hear your experience/comparison with this phone on those 3 main points.
Thank you all in advance
DiNoise said:
Ok, so I was really interested in getting Evo this friday.. but now I decided to wait...
I watched a video of Samsung Galaxy S showing crazy neocore score, smooooth 3d shooting game, and multitouch test compared to HTC phone..
So I really wanna know now how HTC Evo is compared to some devices:
1. How is battery life with regular use (no 4g, no wifi, no gps on, medium brightness, 20-40 mins talk, some txting/gtalk, light web browsing)? Compared to other HTC phones?
I know Samsung will have much better battery life cuz of sAmoled screen.
2. How is multitouch test using market app compared to Galaxy S video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg).. yes, I know it's worse on Evo cuz of its double screen, but how bad?
3. How is audio quality (mp3 music) compared to iPod? (I know iPod is not a standard to compare to but at least I'll have an idea). And how loud is speaker (ringers) compared to any other HTC phones?
Since Galaxy S should come to Sprint too sometimes this summer (based on rumors) I'm kinda considering it...
Yes I know Samsung SUCKS for its support.. And I dont like GalaxyS's look and its UI (reminds me of some ugly phone...)
BUT I can deal with the look and just use home replacement, and I dont care about 4G, AS LONG AS its hardware kills EVO (better battery life, screen, PROCESSOR FASTER THAN SNAPDRAGON, GRAPHICS, better audio quality)..
So don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing EVO (I love how it looks) but I just wanna hear your experience/comparison with this phone on those 3 main points.
Thank you all in advance
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First off... Not all HTC phones are created equally...
1. AMOLED is more hype than anything imo... The Nexus one certainly doesn't get that great of battery life. Plus at the end of the day, the display hardly is using any battery according to battery use... You should get a days life of battery w/o any issues if your usage is what you say.
2. That's an old Touch input sensor or whatever. The Evo does not face the same problems...
3. Audio Quality... sounds fine to me. The speakers on it... I don't know. At times it's quiet and other times it's loud I feel. I really haven't been able to narrow down why, but I do have a feeling it's my "custom" notification / ringtones that are the culprit. I feel my Hero is a tad bit louder still though.
I cannot find out why this phone performed so much better than the other phones on neocore?!?!? The specs are the same.
Edit: Never mind, I found out about the hummingbird processor in the galaxy. I still would rather take the EVO as the galaxy,afaik, has no release date or carrier yet.
Can't speak on the Evo specifically since I don't have it yet (I will in a few hours though lol), however I will say that I would definitely take an Evo over the Galaxy S. Yes the Galaxy S has the hummingbird processor which has a faster gpu, but that in my opinion is the one and only thing it has on the EVO. The Galaxy has that ugly ass touchwiz overlay on top of Android. Part of that overlay looks almost exactly like the iphone OS (not to mention the phone itself almost looks exactly like an iphone). I'd much rather have HTC sense than touchwiz any day of the week. Me living in a 4g market (Atlanta) also makes me more prone to purchase the EVO because now I will be able to discontinue using my Clear 4g dongle. Going back to the processing power, truth be told at this point in time I don't think the extra processing power of the Galaxy S really matters. I currently have the Nexus One which also has a 1ghz snapdragon processor (like the EVO) and I have no speed issues. Add to that the fact that Android 2.2 will be released soon and it has JIT enabled, speed really won't be an issue. I'd imagine you'd see the same responsiveness on both the Evo and the Galaxy S. Also don't forget the Galaxy S only has a 5 megapixel camera (compared to the Evo's 8) and a smaller screen than the EVO.
Galaxy S advantages:
faster processor
Galaxy S disadvantages:
smaller screen
5 megapixel camera
touchwiz interface
looks like an iphone knock off (opinion)
lacks 4g
made by Samsung lol
splicitysplat said:
I cannot find out why this phone performed so much better than the other phones on neocore?!?!? The specs are the same.
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The reason is that the gpu processes 90million triangles/sec as opposed to the nexus one's 22million triangles/sec (couldn't find the evo's specs on this)
Source: http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
Tenny said:
First off... Not all HTC phones are created equally...
1. AMOLED is more hype than anything imo... The Nexus one certainly doesn't get that great of battery life. Plus at the end of the day, the display hardly is using any battery according to battery use... You should get a days life of battery w/o any issues if your usage is what you say.
2. That's an old Touch input sensor or whatever. The Evo does not face the same problems...
3. Audio Quality... sounds fine to me. The speakers on it... I don't know. At times it's quiet and other times it's loud I feel. I really haven't been able to narrow down why, but I do have a feeling it's my "custom" notification / ringtones that are the culprit. I feel my Hero is a tad bit louder still though.
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Well, Samsung claims their Super AMOLED is better in power consuming and brighter than regular AMOLED.. so I don't know if its really true or just bs.
So, is your EVO performing the same on that multitouch test as Galaxy S on the video?? I know EVO is supposed to have new touch sensors that are really good, but Im not sure how good they are, that's why I asked you guys to compare.
And did you compare audio quality to an iPod? (using same headphones of course) Because I still have a HTC Hero and it's a shame for HTC to come up with these smart phones that cannot even have same audio quality as iPod/iPhone, and I'm not even expecting them to be as good as Sony mp3 players (best audio quality consumer mp3 players on the market so far)
thanks for reply anyway.
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Can't speak on the Evo specifically since I don't have it yet (I will in a few hours though lol), however I will say that I would definitely take an Evo over the Galaxy S. Yes the Galaxy S has the hummingbird processor which has a faster gpu, but that in my opinion is the one and only thing it has on the EVO. The Galaxy has that ugly ass touchwiz overlay on top of Android. Part of that overlay looks almost exactly like the iphone OS (not to mention the phone itself almost looks exactly like an iphone). I'd much rather have HTC sense than touchwiz any day of the week. Me living in a 4g market (Atlanta) also makes me more prone to purchase the EVO because now I will be able to discontinue using my Clear 4g dongle. Going back to the processing power, truth be told at this point in time I don't think the extra processing power of the Galaxy S really matters. I currently have the Nexus One which also has a 1ghz snapdragon processor (like the EVO) and I have no speed issues. Add to that the fact that Android 2.2 will be released soon and it has JIT enabled, speed really won't be an issue. I'd imagine you'd see the same responsiveness on both the Evo and the Galaxy S. Also don't forget the Galaxy S only has a 5 megapixel camera (compared to the Evo's 8) and a smaller screen than the EVO.
Galaxy S advantages:
faster processor
Galaxy S disadvantages:
smaller screen
5 megapixel camera
touchwiz interface
looks like an iphone knock off (opinion)
lacks 4g
made by Samsung lol
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Yes, you're right about GalaxyS's advantages (man, I hate that name..),
ALOT faster processor and GPU, and based on reviews pinch to zoom in web browser is smoother than on any Snapdragon phone, and I'm not even talking about 3d gaming..
But also SuperAmoled screen will give you extra battery life, and that would be a big plus for me, and 4inch screen is still big.
TouchWiz?? I dont care, I'm even tired of Sense, I'm using Helix Launcher, LauncherPRO and ADW Launcher..
Megapixels??? I'm a photographer, and if you didnt know Megapixels dont make your picture look better, lens and sensor does, I'm good even with 3mp.
4G?? Unfortunately it's not available yet in my area so I'll be tipping Sprint every month $10 for... hmm... nothing..
YES, it DOES look like APPLE CRAP... unfortunately..
So far this is their flagship phone, so hopefully they will provide all users with good support and be on time with Android updates...
I couldn't get rid of my Samsung Moment (with Amoled screen) fast enough due to the horrendous battery problems with that phone. The build quality well, it just sucked. The top slider flopped around. It felt like a toy compared to Droid.
Good luck whatever you do, I'm heading out now to get my Evo.
I posted this in my ROM thread but thought it may be worth moving it to the General section, as I've noticed users asking what the SGS2 is like coming from the DHD.
These are just some initial thoughts, but feel free to ask me anything about the phone that would influence your decision. Just to be clear, don't turn the thread into a Sensation vs SGS2 thread please!! That said, I have had a good play with the Sensation so can answer some questions about it.
Being a HTC Fan for the best part of a decade, I was apprehensive of making the move to Samsung. Their previous Android offerings all had major flaws and didn't cut it for me. I used to laugh at the original SGS with it's lag/GPS/lack of camera flash issues. I upgrade my phones often and naturally assumed that my next phone would be the Sensation but the whole issue with the bootloader turned my head. Even though HTC have now backtracked, I'm grateful they turned my head because the SGS2 is unbelievably good!
The battery life is a major improvement, with similar usage I now find myself with 20-30% more battery at the end of the day and no longer dread the "15% Remaining" notification.
Although my N1 is an AMOLED model, nothing prepared me for the SAMOLED+ which is just unbelievable. The blacks, colours and clarity are on another level and I know I will really struggle going back to LCD after seeing this.
The speed of the device is just insane. Coming from the N1 to DHD, there wasn't any major improvements in speed as such, just the bigger screen. You'd think that it wouldn't be very noticeable coming from a 1.3Ghz OC DHD to SGS2 but side by side, the SGS2 just chews through everything almost 2x as fast. The browser, as many have shown is buttery smooth and makes for an awesome browsing experience.
The camera is much better and the 1080p recording looks stunning on my 42" 1080p TV with the increased bitrate mod. The main improvement is in low light conditions where the DHD would always give grainy distorted images and videos. I can actually leave my digicam at home now and use the phone for most of my quick picture taking.
Build quality is awesome. People always say that it feels cheap and plastic, but if you are like me and use a case, it "feels" the same just so much lighter. I can now read longer in bed and watch videos without feeling my arm aching! My DHD used to creak slightly when pressing on the touchscreen (the SIM cover) and I have no problems like this and don't forsee any the way the phone is built.
Sound quality through headphones is not as good as the DHD which is a shame. I've had to fiddle with DSPManager and PowerAmp to make it sound good. The stock player sounds horrible and the included 5.1 mode is garbage. I can cope now with my adjustments but really I was disappointed with this. The speaker is much better though and is much clearer than the DHD, so voices are easier to hear on podcasts and radio.
TouchWiz is rubbish. They may have improved it but I HATE the iPhone wannabe look and although I tried my best to use it, I had LP back up and running after an hour or two. I prefer stock Android anyway but can use Sense if I had to. I cannot use TouchWiz.
Phonecall quality is OK. Sounded slightly better on DHD, but people can hear me clearer on the GS2. They sometimes think I have hung up because the line is so clear from background noise.
Overall I can't recommend the phone enough to any DHD users who are not reliant on SENSE UI and want to upgrade to Dual Core.
Regards.
Thanks for the insights d00d, but you really can't compare two phones one with a single core processor and the other a dual core processor in terms of functionality, speed, lag/response. I tried the SGS2 myself on a Vmobile stand in a mall and I'd prefer the matte finish of the DHD over the somehow iphone 3G-ish gloss curved plastic finish for it's case. I'm just waiting for a GSM 3D phone and my brand of choice would be HTC.
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Thanks for the insights d00d, but you really can't compare two phones one with a single core processor and the other a dual core processor in terms of functionality, speed, lag/response. I tried the SGS2 myself on a Vmobile stand in a mall and I'd prefer the matte finish of the DHD over the somehow iphone 3G-ish gloss curved plastic finish for it's case. I'm just waiting for a GSM 3D phone and my brand of choice would be HTC.
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I'm not trying to compare them head to head. This is more of an experiential viewpoint having used both phones and hopefully will help those considering the SGS2 as an upgrade from the DHD.
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Dude,I made the move just yesterday,and it feels like you've been in my head these two days.I can't stand the abscense of Sense.I'm so used to it that it feels so strange without it,it's like using another OS.All the other stuff though...What can I say?The phone's like a dream come true.
On a side note,Thursday night my DHD works like a charm as always.Fast,smooth and stable.Friday morning,after the call that informed me my GS2 was here,the DHD started behaving strangely.It lags like hell,it's slow and gives random reboots.Perhaps my DHD wasn't the best for overclocking as it couldn't handle 2GHz,but it felt jealous!How advanced is that?
How's the battery life? This is a big issue for me.
Thanks buddy for the comparison. From your insights I won't be upgrading then; due to the sound effects. I very much love the dolby effects, which I would miss in the S2........
Denny
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How about the white color on the SGS 2? It seems to me that white on Sgs 2 is blueish!
Personally I don't like Super, mega, extra, amoled because of the unnatural colors.
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How's the battery life? This is a big issue for me.
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Battery life is great! While calibrating (first few cycles) it was draining quite fast when in use, but now I am calibrated I find it great. Obviously coming from the DHD, anything would seem better, but I still have a N1 and it outperforms that. The biggest differences I notice are when playing music it hardly moves, I still lose similar to standby drain (-1%-2% per hour) which is mind boggling. That said, super intensive use with lots of white backgrounds (think web browsing on 3G) can drain the battery quickly but yesterday I absolutely hammered the phone with YouTube, Music, Calls, Browsing etc and even after 17hours I was still in double figures (albeit at 10%). DHD would have been dead after 13-14 with similar usage.
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Thanks buddy for the comparison. From your insights I won't be upgrading then; due to the sound effects. I very much love the dolby effects, which I would miss in the S2........
Denny
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Yeh, coming from the DHD it was the first thing I noticed. There is a big thread in the SGS2 section started by supercurio, the developer of the Voodoo sound mod on the original SGS, where he analysed the hardware and came to the conclusion that the DAC performed poorly. I was reading this before I got the handset and was wondering could it be that bad? It isn't terrible but it's not great either. After combining PowerAmp and DSP Manager it now sounds much better and because my ears have adjusted i'm quite happy. I would say if DHD was 9/10 the SGS2 is a 7.5/10 for music. If SQ is SUPER important, I mean you one of these people with a full flac music collection and £100 headphones, then I don't think this phone is for you (Sensation is supposed to be good for SQ). The stock player sounds HORRENDOUS.
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How about the white color on the SGS 2? It seems to me that white on Sgs 2 is blueish!
Personally I don't like Super, mega, extra, amoled because of the unnatural colors.
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The whites are good, but I guess they are blueish whites. You only really notice this from an angle when the tint becomes apparent. Otherwise the whites are simply brilliant and eye burning bright! The colours can be unnatural at times, but that in a way is the appeal of the SAMOLED+. I understand on a PC monitor when you may be doing graphic and digital image work that having natural colours is important, but on a phone I really appreciate the pop and brilliance of the display. Don't take Youtube videos as a gauge of how the screen looks because to the naked eye, it simply looks AMAZING! As soon as I turned the phone on it was a jaw dropping moment. Unfortunately there is slight banding on some gradients but this is minor and doesn't take anything away from this awesome screen.
Regards.
Thanks for the replay! Why didn't you get the HTC Sensation because the bootloader will be unlocked?!
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Thanks for the replay! Why didn't you get the HTC Sensation because the bootloader will be unlocked?!
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That's pretty relative pal.They can unlock the bootloader,but don't think they'll make our lives THAT much easy.Nand-locks and stuff like that will almost surely be there.I hope not though!Not that I'll buy the Sensation,but I will probably be buying HTC again in the future(old habits die hard,don't they? ) and their policies probably won't change.
I have to admit though,messing with the Galaxy S 2 is easy as pie.Once you get the hang of it it's much easier than any HTC I've owned.
As a long time DHD owner and a previous SGS owner, I bought the SGS2 few days ago. Some quick thoughts:
1. I'm quite critical to build quality and I couldn't stand original SGS display bezel and back cover getting loose. Ok, why even consider SGS2 then? Well, I kind of fell in love for Case-Mate Tough case, and I'm happy with it after using it for a day.
Some quick notes about SGS2 build quality in general, display bezel seems very solid and since back cover only covers the back area of the phone (unlike SGS where the back cover went all the way to sides of the phone), and this is a good thing. It seems to be very tightly attached to the body and it has more snaps that attach than original SGS.
Back cover can be pressed a bit down and it makes a little click under camera module. But these are not an issue for me as I got the case on mine.
2. The main reason I bought it, SAMOLED+ display. Okay, first boot and I immediately noticed white is not very good white. It's blueish. I've already used to that, but that's just something that immediately jumped on me after looking at white with DHD LCD display.
Otherwise, viewing angle is awesome, but that doesn't matter much to me as I tend to look at my phone in the front.
Overall of course all the colors are very good looking and sharp. All in all I maybe expected a bit more, but I'm definitely happy with it. But I feel that moving back to DHD LCD display would not be such a big deal that I thought if I had to do that.
3. The physical home-button makes quite loud click when pressed, I'm not a big fan of it.
4. Now here's why I'm having serious second thoughts about having this device: ROM support. My main grudge of course is that there is no CM7 for SGS2 yet. I have to say that I REALLY REALLY, I mean REAAALLY miss CM7. *sigh* It's until now that I'm using Samsung's customized Android, I realize how much I miss massive number of features available in CyanogenMod.
Another thing is that as far as I can see, there is no official CWM support for SGS2, and currently users use a customized version by Chainfire. It's ok though, as long as it works.
All in all my general feelings about the phone itself is good, I like many things over DHD such as improved taking camera photos speed, camera picture quality seems a bit better and ADW screen transitions and 4D drawer runs smoother than on my DHD. But the more I use SGS2, the more I miss my DHD running CM7....
I know, my complaints are mainly related to CM7 not being available on SGS2 so it's pretty subjective view. I also know atinm and Teamhacksung is working on CM7 on SGS2, but I have no idea when it'll be ready. CyanogenMod is just that awesome.
Doesn't CM7 have massive battery issues on the DHD though?
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Doesn't CM7 have massive battery issues on the DHD though?
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It used to have,something to do with the DSP chip not sleeping correctly I think.It has been solved a looooong time now.
Hey guys I'm with the Htc sensatio right now and I'm thinking of moving over to the s2. I've heard that the screen on the s2 is accually better then the galaxy nexus and it is 8mp vs 5mp. What do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352839
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you see, the thing im most worried about is the nexus is a newer phone, but it seems like a downgrade from the s2 other then its screen size and resolution, I'm pretty sure s2's screen is better then the nexus too. But of course the nexus line is pretty reliable, I've owned the original nexus b4. Will the s2 beat the nexus at everything as soon as ics comes to s2?
jr_718 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352839
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Please whatever you do, dont listen to this guy. I played with the galaxy nexus as bell already has it available and it is NOT an upgrade in screen or speed. Everybody seems to be sucking up to this phone for some reason. Its not nearly as smooth as you think just flipping through the homescreens. A live wallpaper like the microbes will slow it down like crazy-ever seen lag from a live wallpaper on the sgs2??(the current excuse is its poorly coded lol). Using the internet is not even close to being as smooth either-you can even see it in almost all review online yet they still say its amazing. Please use it first before you go out and buy one.
No sd slot, camera on front and back not on par with sgs2 by a long shot, the screen is less vibrant and more pixelated, cpu is worse, gpu is worse, phone is too tall to even reach the status bar unless you really stretch (im 6'1 with big enough hands) and battery life is reportedly worse (will improve with custom roms im sure).
The only real advantage the nexus has is updates, which is a strong advantage.
I honestly went out with the intention of buying it but it was a definite downgrade.
I haven't seen the GNS and am wanting to know if its better. I like the post above but this has been covered a million times before. Although its nice that Borat dropped in to start another thread.
blunted09 said:
Please whatever you do, dont listen to this guy. I played with the galaxy nexus as bell already has it available and it is NOT an upgrade in screen or speed. Everybody seems to be sucking up to this phone for some reason. Its not nearly as smooth as you think just flipping through the homescreens. A live wallpaper like the microbes will slow it down like crazy-ever seen lag from a live wallpaper on the sgs2??(the current excuse is its poorly coded lol). Using the internet is not even close to being as smooth either-you can even see it in almost all review online yet they still say its amazing. Please use it first before you go out and buy one.
No sd slot, camera on front and back not on par with sgs2 by a long shot, the screen is less vibrant and more pixelated, cpu is worse, gpu is worse, phone is too tall to even reach the status bar unless you really stretch (im 6'1 with big enough hands) and battery life is reportedly worse (will improve with custom roms im sure).
The only real advantage the nexus has is updates, which is a strong advantage.
I honestly went out with the intention of buying it but it was a definite downgrade.
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You say don't listen to me?. That link was posted as reference to help him see people's view point on both phones. And if you read further people seem to embrace the s2 more than the prime.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/poll-vote-for-the-best-phone-of-2011/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/PhoneArena-Reader-Awards-2011-The-winners_id24445
how about you check out these two links and then decide ?????? and btw wait for the gs3 if you can.
well if u dont count on nexus's slightly bigger screen and abit more pixel then, S2 is one update away from being better than nexus
and just for the sake of defending S2 8mp camera makes whole alot difference in picture u take
i feel bad about nexus so ill defend it also XD Nexus have zero shutter lag meaning.. when u press "take photo" for S2 it takes 0.5 - 1.5 ( no idea what is exact ) then it takes picture but nexus has zero lag which takes immediately.. so u wont miss the "good" situation/expression or anything else u want to capture
People have compared the S2 to the Nexus.
Nexus has faster browser speed. But these comparisons don't make sense because ICS has not been released with its fixes officially for the S2. And the Nexus benefits from these fixes.
FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
People have compared the S2 to the Nexus.
Nexus has faster browser speed. But these comparisons don't make sense because ICS has not been released with its fixes officially for the S2. And the Nexus benefits from these fixes.
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Forgot to mention that ICS currently doesn't have Flash support, which makes pages lighter to load.
robt772000 said:
I haven't seen the GNS and am wanting to know if its better. I like the post above but this has been covered a million times before. Although its nice that Borat dropped in to start another thread.
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....makes sense
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well if u dont count on nexus's slightly bigger screen and abit more pixel then, S2 is one update away from being better than nexus
and just for the sake of defending S2 8mp camera makes whole alot difference in picture u take
i feel bad about nexus so ill defend it also XD Nexus have zero shutter lag meaning.. when u press "take photo" for S2 it takes 0.5 - 1.5 ( no idea what is exact ) then it takes picture but nexus has zero lag which takes immediately.. so u wont miss the "good" situation/expression or anything else u want to capture
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As he says, S2 is just one update away, from being better than nexus.
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Ask the question here and you will only get the answers from gs2 owners, meaning only pro gs2 comments.
I'm in the same dilemma but I already have the s2
From Galaxy SI the following specs were upgraded in SII.
+ FULL HD recording
+ Dual Core
+ Super Amoled Plus (improved battery drain)
+ 8 MP camera
+ Much better GPS
From SII following specs downgraded in Nexus
- removed sd card slot
- 5 MP camera
- pentile super amoled (higher battery drain)
- slower GPU
- slower CPU
Other than ICS, Nexus doesn't bring anything extra or better than SII.
pacc said:
From Galaxy SI the following specs were upgraded in SII.
+ FULL HD recording
+ Dual Core
+ Super Amoled Plus (improved battery drain)
+ 8 MP camera
+ Much better GPS
From SII following specs downgraded in Nexus
- removed sd card slot
- 5 MP camera
- pentile super amoled (higher battery drain)
- slower GPU
- slower CPU
Other than ICS, Nexus doesn't bring anything extra or better than SII.
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- better Screen
- Shutter
- much faster Updates
- no Touchwiz
- no Bloatware
- open Platform (TI Omap, there are sources for nearly everything)
- aosp device tree
For every user who loves to customize his phone the Galaxy Nexus is much better than the Galaxy S II.
You'll see real high quality custom roms by time, not only rethemed stuff like on s2.
I was referring to Specs only.
I agree with most points you mentioned, but there is nothing really outstanding in Nexus device, other than the new concept of full screen mobile phones which was now introduced by Galaxy Nexus and Nokia N9.
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- better Screen
- Shutter
- much faster Updates
- no Touchwiz
- no Bloatware
- open Platform (TI Omap, there are sources for nearly everything)
- aosp device tree
For every user who loves to customize his phone the Galaxy Nexus is much better than the Galaxy S II.
You'll see real high quality custom roms by time, not only rethemed stuff like on s2.
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I get your view point on the nexus being easier to work with as a developer-especially in your case but...
-screen is NOT better, i have spent time with it and it just isnt
-shutter is great if it had a great camera
-faster updates is a given and the main pro
-touchwiz actually improved things like the camera interface, dialer and gpu acc. browser which has yet to be matched in smoothness even by the nexus
-the processor lags, im sorry but it just does
-aosp, again goes with the updates pro
Im just disappointed that they couldnt do better because i really did want it. Roms arent rethemed (though many are). I think the devs deserve some credit their with the work on the S2.
If you ask me, the nexus crown still belongs to the N1
i have a GS2 but could've gone for the GN but with the massive battery drain on the GN i decided to just stick on the GS2 but still in dilemma as i love the bigger and design of the GN..
ICS was the main reason i switched from ip4 to GS2, i have NO regrets switching devices and love the android!
i just don't like the looks of my white GS2 a bit because of how it looks like a clone of a 4-inch iphone and the home button that really looks like the leaked 4 inch iphone's home button too other than that they're all good to me.. if it weren't for that quick battery drain of the GN, i'd go for it..
anyway just my opinion..
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- better Screen
- Shutter
- much faster Updates
- no Touchwiz
- no Bloatware
- open Platform (TI Omap, there are sources for nearly everything)
- aosp device tree
For every user who loves to customize his phone the Galaxy Nexus is much better than the Galaxy S II.
You'll see real high quality custom roms by time, not only rethemed stuff like on s2.
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Thank you codeworkx. Too many GSII fanboys lol
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Theres no question that when it comes to hardware, the galaxy s 2 is better than the galaxy nexus. the prime's big advantage is ICS. thats the star of the show nobody cares about the damn phone itself. the S2 GPU and CPU are better than the one thats in the prime. Just imagine the S2 coming out today with ICS and the prime with ICS, which one will you buy?
On launch day i when out and brought my self a One X and for the first few weeks i loved it but as time went on there became more and more that anoyed me about the phone for example the lack of S-OFF, terable battery life and the fact that is completly refuses to get along well with my network "three uk".
Should i switch from the ONE X to a GS3?
and if so what are the reasons behind it?
will the GS3 help to amend any of the issues i have with the ONE X?
Thanks guys
Plz don't be convinced to get a s3! U should be loving the no sd card and non removable battery
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Here's a great site with everything you need to know http://tinyurl.com/c8mmd3t
By the way, the note 2 is better if you can handle the extra half inch
Switch to note2 not s3
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what worrys me about switching to the note 2 is that it has a serious lack of development
i am a huge AOSP fan but i know that if they get aosp up and running on the note that all of the S-pen feautes wont work and and so that will deem that part of the phone useless :/
i have also read that becasue of a recent fall out between cyanogen mod and samsung that cyanogen wont be suporting the note 2 as a official device which will make AOSP development slow :/
irish-sid said:
Here's a great site with everything you need to know http://tinyurl.com/c8mmd3t
By the way, the note 2 is better if you can handle the extra half inch
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i have tryed that but all google is going to tell me is how these two phones compare out of the box when they were first released. since then there has been a huge amount of development on these phones thus rendering any review or comparison usless for what i am looking for :/
Explain to me, as if I am very dumb...what's the point on that switch? Both mobile phones are pretty much the same, one is better here the other there. But it's just my opinion. As far as ROM goes, I would be running CM anyway or AOKP or PA and the sorts...so on that point they would be exactly the same.
What I'm saying here is that people worry too much for things like 30mins extra battery and the sorts. My device has one of the worst batteries ever (Galaxy Ace) and still does it's job. With that said...I'd kill for a HTC OneX and I'd buy the HTC over the S3 any day. And let's get real here...There's this thing called Nexus 4 coming soon...I'd buy that XD
the point is the ONE x has so many problems on 3uk its not even funny :/
if im conected to H and for example i go into a building with a lead roof and i loose signal then when i exit the build the phone wont reconect to the network atall it just refuses and even if it does then it will only let me get a GSM signal and im lucky if i get that. i have to force a conection by searching for the networks and then it will recconect. i am not the only one with thus issue as it is comon with 3uk ONE x users and after half a year of doing this i cant be bothered with it anymore :/
Damsung promised to give drivers for Exynos 4 so there will be huge development from devs on xda starting from next year.
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You said you were a AOSP lover? Aren't those issues caused by AOSP rom? In Portugal CM7 and MMS receiving is broken for example I need to reboot phone, turn data off and back on and then send myself a MMS to force the phone to receive the one someone sent me lol
And from what I recall, from 7 years ago, when I lived in the UK the 3 network sucked bad on pretty much every phone but I guess it would be better by now.
(Just noticed, I'm defending you to keep a HTC over a Samsung phone and I have 3 devices all of them Samsung, just check my sig lololol)
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Explain to me, as if I am very dumb...what's the point on that switch? Both mobile phones are pretty much the same, one is better here the other there. But it's just my opinion. As far as ROM goes, I would be running CM anyway or AOKP or PA and the sorts...so on that point they would be exactly the same.
What I'm saying here is that people worry too much for things like 30mins extra battery and the sorts. My device has one of the worst batteries ever (Galaxy Ace) and still does it's job. With that said...I'd kill for a HTC OneX and I'd buy the HTC over the S3 any day. And let's get real here...There's this thing called Nexus 4 coming soon...I'd buy that XD
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+1. A friend of mine has a HOX and every time I see it I'm jealous of how beatuful and well made it looks. It also has the best sceen available on a phone right now (htc butterfly doesnt count as it is Japan exclusive) and sense looks better than TW. My GS3 is faster (both are on custom Roms, stock kernels and both are blazing fast but the GS3 is faster and smoother ), TW has more features than Sense, camera and speakers are better, micro SD and removable battery, much better battery life and the Bootloader is unlocked (maybe the most important part for me). Both phones are excelent and I wouldn't switch from one to the other ( even if I had the HOX ). If you have to leave the HOX for something else I would suggest the Note II for its great features, the Nexus 4 if you want stock Android or wait for the international version of the HTC Butterfly.
Faster Exynos 4 processor, Bigger screen, Believe it or not but the S3 feels lighter... And if your not a flash addict Touchwiz is better than Sense.
Plus Exynos 4 documentation coming soon, even tho the Tegra already had that but development here is about to get a whole lot better.
Expandable memory, removable and bigger battery, bigger screen.
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nope i have had these probems with my network from day one even with sence
I switched from HOX to SGS3 a month ago and I didn't regret even for a second. GS3 is a way better for me.
I have a friend that has an HTC One X and i can't understand the "beautiful" compliments, it is nice looking but nothing really "awesome" about it, the edges are rough, the screen is slightly smaller, (I hate LCD's, love punchy colors of Amoled displays and true blacks), Sense is fine but i (personally) like touchwiz a little better, No SD Card (LOL @ HTC, why.. seriously.. why?) and no removable battery.. (Batteries die, yep they lose their hold after a few months / year, and you can't replace it on a One X, you can't even do a quick swap for a backup battery).
All this got me to the conclusion of getting an S3 instead, now got a Note 2, an S3 and soon a Nexus 10 (tablet).
Nike: Just do it!
READY...?
Canadian Rogers Version i7747m is what I have.
I wanted the HOX bad. Loved the look. LCD whites are WHITE. Form factor and unibody are great especially if you plan to NOT use a case. Yet the S3 won 51% to 49%.
But having owned this i747m for 3 months now, stock rom, rooted, some framework mods for extra features and cosmetics....I am absolutely floored. (minus a few super minor non issues)
- 32gb +32gb = 64gb storage
- removable battery
- light and thin...so getting a case is not a bulk builder. With case it's still lighter than my old trusty HD2
- 2gb ram with up to 50 background apps in memory (Ask Zeppelinrocks Dev about this....it's a NEW record for a stock device) Wicked Multitasking as we say it.
- Fast, great standby drain, no SOD or Hot Reboots etc.
- Touchwiz....MEH...tried it for a week and ditched that ui for Go Launcher EX which has infinitely better and more custom options.
- Replaced some stock apps with IMO...superior apps (Handcent, Kaiten Mail, PowerAmp)
- my Super Amolded screen shows whites as very close to white and looks incredible playing games or watching movies.
- LED notification is fat and not too bright. It's a warm light and multi colored....and WORKS.
- camera and camcorder are great. Just took a video tonight of some backyard ground fireworks and it came out great...sound and all. Camera is very fast, burst shots...powerful flash etc. Some issues with low light conditions.
- LTE...for us here...is smoking fast data speeds even on 1 bar signal.
- usb can also output analogue and digital audio.
- physical home button. I learned that I prefer this especially to turn the screen on. It's most natural.
- development is aggressive...especially European models. I don't care much about this anymore...since for the first time since froyo, I have a near 100% working device without issues. I can't believe it. I am a stickler for details.
If I was living in Europe, I would get the i9305. I would not even think about getting a device with less than 2gb ram. I could write a book on it.
Like DeadSOL says, and Nike....and ..even Ben Stiller....Juz Doooow eet !!!
If you're an AOSP lover you should stick with a nexus 4 but, keep in mind that the on screen buttons will take up some of the screen real estate.
Oh by the way I have both the one X and the s3 and if you do make the switch you'll be dissapointed by its cheap plasticy feel but you'll be amazed by its battery life.
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Switch to nexus 4
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So, I have the Note II (Awesome device) But now the HTC One is out and on paper in specs its sort of common with the Note II but not as much.Lets go over with the specs shall we?
The note II features a 1.6 ghz Quadcore Exynos 4 CPU - The One has a Snap dragon 600 Quad core 1.7 Ghz processor. Now the 600 is quite new of a processor meaning not many phones have it (Only the Optimus G+ and now the One,as far as im aware) So in the processor im gonna leave it as is just because we still have yet to see the 600 in action.
Both of these devices feature 2 GB RAM - Draw.
The screen is quite different however, On the note II you got a 5.5 Inch Super amoled panel with a resolution of 1280x720 giving a dpi of 267- HTC One has a 4.7 Inch display with a Super LCD 3 panel with a resolution of 1920x1080 which results in a whopping resolution of 469ppi. Many say the 1080p screen is overkill but unless you experience it for real you will see a difference..i have to give this to the One.
In battery not much tests have been made for the One here but my bet the Note II will have a better battery. The Note II has a 3100 MAH battery which is just awesome. The One has a battery of 2300 MAH . Keep in mind that the Note II's battery is removable but the One is not!.This one goes for the Note II
The One comes in 2 models of 32 and 64 gigs of storage with no expandable SD Card. The note II comes in 16 gigs of internal storage and can support an SD card of up to 64 GB. Note II wins this one.
The Camera on the One is the "Ultra pixel" one which no one really is sure what it is or how its better so..im going to leave the camera because no one really can judge.
Software wise , Both the Note II and the One come with Android JELLY BEAN 4.1.2. (Both will be upgradable to 4.2.2)
One thing i wanted to note(no pun intended) is that the Note II has an S-Pen! Im not going to go in the features of it because they are alot..But let me tell you this,Its just awesome..you can take notes with it, Very productive. ( ONE ALSO has Beats audio and 2 front speakers , note 2 doesnt have that)
Ending this..Both of these phones are great..But for me I can upgrade and ditch the Note II to get the One (Got the money) But im going to stay with the Note II because its the phone i want , i dont want to go back to 4.7 inch screen. So thats just my take on it..Its your choice and your money Both of them are great..But ive had HTC in the past..i wont have one again.
I'm curious about the camera in One, they promised a good low light performance. The sceen also may be interesting, but until i see it in real life, I cannot talk about it. The battery, I guess, will be at most 3/4 of ours (a wild guess).
My final verdict: not worth upgrade (if this is really an upgrade?), I'm waiting for S4 and even 5S (these are the phones to set new trends )
Even though htc one has a better specification, better screen, and faster processor. The battery itself will keep me and some people sticking to note 2 for the time being. If you want gaming, the HTC sure will provide better gaming performance (12,000 in quadrant! ) but from my experience of owning HTC one x and one x+, both have terrible battery, especially compared to note 2.
Htc also have quite lame software in my opinion. But HTC Sense looks better, much better than TouchWiz. Note 2 in my book is still the best smartphone to date with s-pen, split screen and other various productivity tools. Great phone for working. The battery will last a full day with heavy usage.
if u prefer raw performance and good camera go for htc one but if u prefer more usablity with spen and storage stay with note 2 and wait for note 3 launch at end q3.
htc one is the king of android phone with optimus g pro but both phone doesnt support digitizer so it lack the usability and precision of note 2.
about battery life, nowadays u can buy an external charger or use in-car charger if u are moving around so battery is not an issue actually unless u go to a very rural place for a week with no charger around but any phone also cant last that long.
anyway its up to user individual.
update - S4 wil also be launching in march so about the king of android is still a puzzle.
htc one has the better built quality it seems with metal construction and injection moulding which is somehow, more solid than plastic (or polycarbonate) on N2
OK there is NO Doubt that the phone is a new top tier phone! But I don't know... HTC has great build quality, but their software is meh. Their updates are slow, because they have to test that REALLY heavy skin over Android, so they are never really on time with updates, and if they are, it's only for the first few months. I don't know, I think HTC has a GREAT design team, and engineers, but I don't really like their software development team because their mentality is build a great device and sell as many as possible and then push out the next one. Samsung, for the moment, is doing a great job. The ORIGINAL Note got updates, and so did the S2. That's just my opinion based on my experience. It could vary. haha. Oh, but battery life is FOR SURE going to be worse on the HTC unless they did something revolutionary with their software and hardware. mAh is mAh! There's no way around that.
I own both devices(Note 2 and One X). In comparison for both devices(stock), I like the the Note 2 the most - no lags, while on the One X - lag is everywhere. The SenseUI is terrible when it comes to response. The only noticeable difference between both devices is when the user wants to access the phone's memory, Kies really suck while on the OneX it's just toggle-transfer-safely remove the device.
Let's be total honest here, One is WAY better than Note 2, in terms of performance, build quality and design. But I won't switch to it, why? Because I don't want to spend extra money for it as my Note 2 is just 4 months old and I still like OLED than LCD.
Agreed on the whole "I had an HTC before and will never have one again". Seriously, their phones always had an issue whether it was software related or hardware. But that's just my experience. I'm never going back. Regardless of how fast it is or how much better. I'm satisfied with the note performance and battery life and especially that it has official cm10.1 support. Awaiting key lime pie and future updates on this beast! :thumbup:
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I own both devices(Note 2 and One X). In comparison for both devices(stock), I like the the Note 2 the most - no lags, while on the One X - lag is everywhere. The SenseUI is terrible when it comes to response. The only noticeable difference between both devices is when the user wants to access the phone's memory, Kies really suck while on the OneX it's just toggle-transfer-safely remove the device.
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this topic is about the all new "One" not the "One X"
One is newer device, of course it will be faster than Note 2.
Would I go for One? No!
Why?
No MMC slot, embedded battery, less battery capacity.
I was the ultimate HTC fanboi up until the original Note came along. It was then I realised Samsung were King when it came to innovation and superior software. I bought the S3 then the Note 2, the Galaxy Camera and the Note 10.1 tablet. I have become a Samsung fanboi without doubt!
However...
I am suddenly taking an interest in both the Sony Xperia Z and now the HTC One. Why? Well purely on a design basis. The Galaxy range is becoming a bit boring in the looks department. I understand that plastic is good for making my devices lightweight and durable but they don't ooze premium like the HTC ONE and the Sony Z (and dare I say the iphone 5 - yes that's quite an admission for an anti apple guy!)
My conclusion is for now I am waiting on what the Samsung Galaxy S4 brings to the table and more importantly the Galaxy Note 3, before I consider jumping ship again. For the time being I am a Samsung fan and I love the Note II but it's about time we had higher resolution AMOLED screens, twin speakers and aluminium chassis for what are ultra premium products.
Sv: HTC One vs Note II
The HTC One has a LOT more pixels to move around wich means that the extra 100mhz CPU power can't even begin to make up with it = laggy? (unless it has an awesome GPU). Also the screen 4'7 is too small for my taste.
This also means more power required from a much smaller battery in the One. Two things I really love about the Note II is the awsome battery life and the ability to simply switch battery if needed.
The One's design looks great however putting the rear speaker in the front looks retatded I think, and to put a "Beats Audio" logo on the back of that beautiful phone is also retarded
In autumn 2013 the Note III will be out and I can honestly say, I will keep my Note II till then!
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All positive and negative aspects aside has anyone noticed how ugly HTC phones have become? Especially the back.
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this topic is about the all new "One" not the "One X"
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Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was about One X because I've read someone comment about it. Thanks for mentioning it.
galaxy358 said:
Even though htc one has a better specification, better screen, and faster processor. The battery itself will keep me and some people sticking to note 2 for the time being. If you want gaming, the HTC sure will provide better gaming performance (12,000 in quadrant! ) but from my experience of owning HTC one x and one x+, both have terrible battery, especially compared to note 2.
Htc also have quite lame software in my opinion. But HTC Sense looks better, much better than TouchWiz. Note 2 in my book is still the best smartphone to date with s-pen, split screen and other various productivity tools. Great phone for working. The battery will last a full day with heavy usage.
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I own both devices(Note 2 and One X). In comparison for both devices(stock), I like the the Note 2 the most - no lags, while on the One X - lag is everywhere. The SenseUI is terrible when it comes to response. The only noticeable difference between both devices is when the user wants to access the phone's memory, Kies really suck while on the OneX it's just toggle-transfer-safely remove the device.
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Isn't it easier to put it this way without much of explanation.
Cpu = Htc one , it's 40% faster then the one in note and 40% more powerfull, battery consumption is less for around 50%
Display = Htc one , much better sharper crisper , brighter , viewing angles, much more usable on daylight and colors are more accurate then on amoled.
Battery = this one is unknown , but considering it has less power hungry chip smaller screen SLCD3 more power hungry display then amoled and full HD we can expect around 8 hours screen on time. Possibly more still unknown.
Design and build quality = Htc one no doubt about it.
Features = kinda hard call , HTc one comes with plenty of new things while note holds of it's own.
Camera = reported to be currently the best one on the market especially in the dark ( 300% more light then on other devices )
About one X since you mentioned it , you really didn't know how to use HoX no offense still don't ( tho you're right when you compare stock vs stock ) , hox is on a different level now, runs games full effects no laggs ( that can't even s3 & note 2 do ) Battery life has literally doubled , check in my signature screen shoots you'll see almost 7hours screen on time with heavy usage and high brightness at some point.
Anyone final words: Htc one is great but i think us who have quad cores should skip it and wait to see what will sammy bring us in note 3, s4 and what will snapdragon 800 do , it's twice faster then s600. Just my 2 cents.
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About one X since you mentioned it , you really didn't know how to use HoX no offense still don't ( tho you're right when you compare stock vs stock ) , hox is on a different level now, runs games full effects no laggs ( that can't even s3 & note 2 do ) Battery life has literally doubled , check in my signature screen shoots you'll see almost 7hours screen on time with heavy usage and high brightness at some point.
Anyone final words: Htc one is great but i think us who have quad cores should skip it and wait to see what will sammy bring us in note 3, s4 and what will snapdragon 800 do , it's twice faster then s600. Just my 2 cents.
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I did a mere comparison of the two devices, the One X & Note 2 stock devices because that would be the first noticeable differences for prospective buyers. Is it a norm nowadays where you go to an electronics shop where customers would ask clerks of how their phones behave/function while running on custom ROMs? The answer is a no. First they compare the physical aspects of the phone literally head to head and next is what's under the hood.
@TOPIC - sorry for going off-topic.
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I did a mere comparison of the two devices, the One X & Note 2 stock devices because that would be the first noticeable differences for prospective buyers. Is it a norm nowadays where you go to an electronics shop where customers would ask clerks of how their phones behave/function while running on custom ROMs? The answer is a no. First they compare the physical aspects of the phone literally head to head and next is what's under the hood.
@TOPIC - sorry for going off-topic.
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Agreed about that one :highfive:, but we're *XDA geeks are we not * and all we do is flash more or less and on the way learn few things here and there :good: Anyway we're way off topic lol , excuse us guys.
You should wait and make a comparison between S4 and One.
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HTC One
cpu win
Note II
dispaly size win
3100mAh battery win
replaceable battery win
s pan win
4g win
sd card support:crying: win
note2 win