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Since getting my m5000 last Friday i've been considering the various uses it could have - from both a personal and business point of view.
Today I installed the VNC viewer software on the m5000 and it lets me remotely control my office desktop computer - plus all of our other workstations (I'm the IT Manager - we use it for remote support).
I'm giving some serious thought to the possibility of not having a desktop PC - instead using my m5000 to it's full capability just using vnc to access a spare computer in the office with all the apps on it i use. this would also work when i'm not in the office.
any views on this? i just thought that with the m5000 practically being a laptop it makes sense to possibly use it instead of a desktop pc.
i think the concept is more of an addition to a desktop, not a replacement.
its a very useful utility to read information, but when it comes to maniputlating data, ie, editing a huge spreadsheet its not really up to the spec of office on a desktop.
maybe 5years down the line when the software has been developed enough, the hardware is smaller and of higher specs.
but for now, i see it as a portable part of my main systems, and pound for pound the pc is still a way more viable option.
Dear Friends,
When I shopped around for a tablet, the last thing that came to my mind was a tablet with OS Windows, however after using android tablet, I feel a tablet with windows is much better as we have software to go with it. I am a trader, I need multi profile sharing, video support, document editors, pdf to word convertors and other related apps to be mobile friendly. Can I install windows 7 on my Acer A500 which is currently running android?
How do I install it? Tablet don't have CD drive.
Where to download win 7 for tablet
Drivers for the tablet
please help
Cheers
I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.
y dont you sell your a500 and buy a w500? should be the easiest way
If you need Window$ (and I completely understand why you might) take a look at the existing windows tablets. Fujitsu just came out with a new slate form tablet that might fit your needs.
XDA is the wrong place to be.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fujitsu+tablet
obvious troll is obvious. see their other post.
Bec07 said:
I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.
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Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
cool the fujitsu tablet looks real cool. I need to see if I can get a trade in with a top up on this iconia. I also saw the HP slate looks good as well.
Acer Windows Version
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.
kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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If all these things are as important as you say, then why the hell didn't you research your purchase first?
splatoid said:
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.
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A misleading statement. The W500 comes with Windows, not the A500.
kimi.singapore said:
Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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There's your problem!
Tablets are not supposed to be laptop replacements. They are a different class of device entirely.
For some people, it is possible that a tablet can effectively replace a laptop, but it very much depends how you actually use a laptop in the first place. If you use your laptop for email, internet, and maybe some light games, then yes a tablet can replace it. Otherwise, a tablet is likely to be a companion device to another computer (e.g. a desktop or laptop).
In addition, "business friendly" doesn't mean suitable for all business applications. It just means, in my experience at least, that the device can be used for certain business functions, e.g. exchange support, VPN, remote desktop, Citrix etc.
Regards,
Dave
true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop
tablet usage
Tablet computers are designed for on the go entertainment media web browsing games and access to online content.I had a Archos 9 win 7 tablet.wait for windows 8 if you want a desktop in a tablet.windows current verson Outright sucks on touch devices.do web searches and YouTube video search of using windows touch. If you need all of that and need it now.I have a 11.6 inch HP dm1 notebook 9 hours battery. Dual core machine. A.tablet will never replace that for actual work.
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.
kimi.singapore said:
true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop
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You can't install win7, you will need to purchase a new one. If you want to stick with Acer they have a w500 (w for windows, like a500 is a for android). But there a number of other windows tablets out there. But if you are needing heavy windows use and portability, might I recommend a netbook
kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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1. What true business person has to resort to ad-hoc networks? Did you not realize the A500 is wifi only and doesn't have a 3G feature?
2. Why would you need multiple profiles? Are you sharing the tablet with others? A tablet is pretty much considered to be a one-person device like a phone.
3. There are multi-platform video conferencing apps that work. Of course Microsoft and Yahoo apps might not -- this is a Google device. Microsoft apps don't typically function on Apple devices either.
4. So far I use my USB port for card readers, thumbdrives, connecting my digital camera, keyboard, and mouse. This functionality will improve even more with the v3.1 update released within weeks.
5. There are 1/2 dozen Office compatible app suites available for Android. I don't think you would want to install a full version of Office on a mobile device with limited memory/storage.
6. There are plenty of modern and secure alternatives to the 1980's technology of faxing. That being said, there are numerous internet based FAX services that work perfectly with the A500.
7. Printers require drivers, and those come from the printer manufacturer. If they do not produce drivers for Android then you cannot print directly to those printers. However, there are apps that can satisfy your printing requirements. Again, paper and printed documents are becoming a thing of the past. Most industries have moved to digital.
My advice to you is to have your company's IT department set up some sort of RAS/Citrix type system that allows you to use your tablet (whether Android, Windows, or Apple) to connect to a full Windows computer over the internet and run all your standard Windows business apps and functions from there. Otherwise, a tablet (any/all tablets) just simply is not the device for you.
STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information
kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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Tablets are not meant to replace laptops, whoever told you that does not know what they're talking about, Tablets are more entertainment oriented rather than business.
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meego x86 only
Meego is sponsored by Intel don't think it will ever run arm.
sanaell said:
STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information
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sanaell said:
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
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Not just probably: Win8 will ship in x86-64 and ARM-compatible versions. However, that still won't help OP much since it still cannot run x86 applications. OP would still have to wait for all his applications to be ported over to Silverlight and/or ARM versions.
As to the OP himself: you bought a tablet device in order to do business with it, meaning your income is atleast partially dependent on it, yet you didn't bother to do any kind of research on if it will evenbe suitable to such? Tough luck but you brought this on yourself. And as for running Win7 on a tablet device without a physical keyboard and mouse: forget it. It works, but only barely. Get a laptop.
erica_renee said:
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.
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Same here. I very rarely leave it at home, it's just such a great device and makes it easy to ogle at pictures of Johnny Depp :3
Windows RT[WP8 in disguise] wont succeed
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
so it wont compete the PC market and Intel ofc
so what we getting is just Windows Phone 8 OS Like
ARM is strong enuf to replace PC
many interests to keep ARM in this state
i hate close code always block the future
Microsoft thinks we are wanting her "marketing" os
no, we want windows!
Microsoft is moving towards a more power friendly and more manageable application model in WinRT (the framework). Of course they don't want their tablets to run non-power-optimized code and therefore only support Metro-Style-Applications.
Given that even newest Quad-Core-ARM chips only compete in computational power with Intel's slow Atom CPUs I highly doubt that most of the interesting Desktop applications would work properly.
So even if I'm doubtful if Windows RT will succeed in the tablet market (depends on which devices will be there and how quickly developers create good Metro Apps) I don't think that it will fail because they almost removed the Desktop.
i mean there no reason to choose windows RT before android or iOS
cos Windows RT is Stripped version of Windows 8
and doesn't give us something more then WP7
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT
Thread title sounds like a caveman.
agreed have suggestion ?
Proz00 said:
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT
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Office perhaps? Which is actually onboard with every Windows RT device.
Also nothing technically speaks against mouse/pen optimized Apps on basis of Metro Apps (Image editing, etc. - the mouse is simply more exact than a finger).
Aside from that a keyboard makes quite a lot of sense whenever you're typing a longer text (E-Mail, forum post, etc.)
As for a topic title: "Windows RT won't succeed" would be the closest to the current.
Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix
Proz00 said:
Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix
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In Windows RT on ARM tablets will be a complete Office 2013 with Word, Excel, Powerpoint and OneNote.
They are not built as a Metro Style App (fullscreen metro app)! They are just the same as on x86 and are running in desktop mode. So every Windows RT tablet will have the same office experience as a tablet or notebook running Windows 8 (Pro).
Proz00 said:
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
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Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s
jerome snail said:
Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s
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Windows RT will come loaded with Office 2013 RT
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/arm-powered-windows-rt-to-run-office-2013-rt/
http://arstechnica.com/information-...hots-show-elegant-fusion-of-ribbon-and-metro/
however its looking good
i think metro will cap generally the OS potential
like IE10 metro version, have very little options .....
I guess it's far less Metro-Design that limits the options and functionality than the fact that those applications have been in development for far less time than their Desktop counter parts.
You won't see the control density you have on the Desktop now, simply because hit boxes would be too small which would make the apps fail certification for the Marketplace but aside from that I see pretty little functionality you could not create using WinRT as the basis.
I'm still really curious how many apps and what apps will be available when Windows 8 and Windows RT finally launch.
RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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zeromention said:
RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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but doesnt it support different "app stores"
so for example, an ideal setup would be to have your own company hub, which contains all needed local tools, these can be push updated and centrally managed across all win 8 sites,
So if thats possible i dont see why we couldnt do the same, much like we have custom app stores for Windows phone. unless is some kind of server side domain add on...that would suck!
as you say, time will tell but if it is locked down and the security is similar to Windows Phone 7, then its going to be a pain in the arse to crack open, say what you want about WP but its tighter than a ducks arse! were it not for OEM cockups we'd have no development at all!
Hi guys, I was thinking as to how to exploit Windows Metro decently: I really like the concept, but I find myself never using it. If I want to use a multiaccount chat program, I need to use something like Digsby on Desktop. I think it's a suboptimal use of Windows 8. I'd like to use a multiplatform chat program, like those found on our smartphones (Imo, eBuddy, and such) from the Metro and, for once, forget about Desktop: is it possible? Can I sideload Windows Phone 7.5 and Windows Phone 8 apps into Windows 8 metro?
I think it's really bad to not be able to use stuff like Whatsapp, given I have a tablet interface around which Windows 8 has been used.
Same thing, regarding Xbox Live Arcade games: why cannot I play them in Windows 8 yet? Why can't I play something like Fez, or Sine Mora, inside Windows 8 Metro? Shouldn't it be one of the main selling point of Metro interface?
At the moment, I see really great potential for a new, different and more relaxed approach to computer use, but it's very limited by implementation and app choice...
you cant side load yet, the split screen would be handy forchat programs
hi,
is anyone using their new win 8 tablet with RDP, what's it like connecting to your server, home pc etc?
I'm trying to figure out, do I want to buy an transformer infinity or a windows 8 tablet, probably within then next month or so.
thoughts?
Remote desktop works just fine. From the Surface, I can use the Touch Cover keyboard and trackpad perfectly (as though on a laptop) via Remote Desktop. Touch also works, including the handful of touch gestures supported in Win7, via the Surface's touchscreen. This is using the desktop Remote Desktop program (mstsc.exe), not the TIFKAM (The Interface Formerly Known As Metro) Remote Desktop app. I haven't tried connecting to a server, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work.
One thing to bear in mind, though: the Surface RT has a resolution of 1366x768, which is lower than many desktops and high-end laptops, so it's not great for remoting into a highly multi-tasking-oriented workflow. It's great for smaller jobs, though. Transferring files also works great.
RDP functions pretty much the same as it does on a desktop.
yeah cheers for that. listening it, I may wait out for all pro models :>
I found that for my use - I am an Architect (I use complex x64 programs like AutoCAD, Rhinoceros, Sketchup, Adobe CS, etc), which will have no chance of running on an Atom processor. They would run on i5, but the Surface pro will only get half battery life, and will be thicker/heavier. My options were to spend like $1500 and get a bigger hybrid laptop, or the Surface RT, and use remote desktop to my home computer. I wound up getting Surface RT, and am extremely happy with it thus far (the only thing that is lacking are games. I remote into my desktop computer at home at any time, run remote apps like they were directly installed on my tablet is pretty amazing. There is a slight lag, but not as horrible as using a 3rd party remote desktop app like Teamviewer, or Logmein (which is what i used to use on my ipad - which i have now given to my 3 year old son btw). Granted, you have to have an internet connection to do anything, but I have a 4g smartphone with tethering capabilities, so it will very rarely be an issue for me.
In the end it really depends on what you plan to do with your tablet. The way that I see it, the Android and Ipad tablets only have one advantage over Windows RT - Games, and the number of Apps (but really, what apps do you use on a regular basis, The only ones im missing are Dropbox, Photoshop Touch, and AutoCAD WS). If your like me, and you dont play games that often, and you want to do actual work and produce with a tablet, there is no question which tablet to get - the Surface. The compatibility with printers, mice, keyboards, usb port, expandable storage, full web browser (not bs mobile safari, or chrome), and native remote desktop, and home networking capabilities put it over the top by a lot. And if you are a gamer....I would be patient, MS will further integrate xbox games into this thing, xbox 360 controllers are compatible, and it would make sense to get an xbox emulator working on it directly from MS, with an infinite amount of classic games. Either way, Gameloft, and EA have both announced they would release windows RT versions of their popular games.
Ive tried remote desktop and it works fine.