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How to backup with nandroid if there is not enough space?

Hello,
I wonder if anyone know... What happens when let's say i have 9gb of data on my s2 and i want to backup it with nandroid? It should be possible to do this to sd card, but what if some apps are on phone and some on sd card? How backup then?
If i upgrade to a newer custom built rom, i them try to backup, wouldn't it restore the older backed up firmware? Or just apps and settings, but not rom itself?
Thank you,
Tomas

no one? did no one fill their phone and tried to backup? maybe there is a solution to backup to a computer?

execine said:
Hello,
I wonder if anyone know... What happens when let's say i have 9gb of data on my s2 and i want to backup it with nandroid? It should be possible to do this to sd card, but what if some apps are on phone and some on sd card? How backup then?
If i upgrade to a newer custom built rom, i them try to backup, wouldn't it restore the older backed up firmware? Or just apps and settings, but not rom itself?
Thank you,
Tomas
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Nandroid backups are an image of
/system
/data
/dbdata
(on CF-Root, not sure about original CWM) it also includes .android_secure, which is SD-stored apps.
I don't understand what you are asking.

If there is not enough space you obviously have to delete something.
BTW: data-partition is around 2,1GB and system-partition 500MB, so there is no way a single backup can use 9GB

Maybe I am not being very clear, sorry about that
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
One more technical question about rom upgrades. Currently i installed Villain Rom and have a backup made with nandroid. When i upgrade to a newer Villain Rom 1.5 or whatever comes out and I do the restore, i suppose it will restore 1.4 rom version with it's all apps and settings?
In this case, how do i backup only accounts, contacts, sms , apps, photogallery but not rom itself?
Sorry for all those questions, but i'm reading the forum all over, and there's still hundreds of questions i'm looking to find answers, so that i could comfortably migrate from iphone to galaxy..

execine said:
Maybe I am not being very clear, sorry about that
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
One more technical question about rom upgrades. Currently i installed Villain Rom and have a backup made with nandroid. When i upgrade to a newer Villain Rom 1.5 or whatever comes out and I do the restore, i suppose it will restore 1.4 rom version with it's all apps and settings?
In this case, how do i backup only accounts, contacts, sms , apps, photogallery but not rom itself?
Sorry for all those questions, but i'm reading the forum all over, and there's still hundreds of questions i'm looking to find answers, so that i could comfortably migrate from iphone to galaxy..
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Regarding restoring only apps/accounts/etc but not the rom iteself, within cwm, in backup and restore, chhoose advanced restore and the restore data.
Im not certain whether it restores gallery or sms.i sync my photos via dropbox, and backup my texts seperately.
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So there is no unified backup solution for android? You would have to back up everything separately ?

execine said:
So there is no unified backup solution for android? You would have to back up everything separately ?
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It's fairly simple:
Nandroid for your ROM and user data that is on the PHONE and /data partition
For the /sdcard and /sdcard/external_sd, that's up to you to sort out... Perhaps back up the contents by connecting to your PC? Then copy the contents of the SD? That way you have your nandroid backup stored on the computer just in case

so then in case something goes wrong, i restore with nandroid and manually copy contents from PC and ALL of my phone's data (software, contacts, gallery etc) will be there?

execine said:
Coming from an Iphone, i am looking for a total phone backup solution. Itunes backs up literally everything - your apps, music, photos etc. It's filled probably with 20gb of different data.
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Well, now you have a phone that doesn´t hide everything from the user it shouldn´t be that hard to make a backup.
There are basically 4 interesting partitions on the phone:
system (about 500MB) - This holds more or less the whole Firmware. While it is technically just a partition on the flash-memory, it is used like a ROM in normal usage, so the only situation where something will be written on this partition is a firmware-upgrade.
data (about 2GB)- This partition holds all user-installed apps and their settings.
sdcard (about 12GB) - This is not really a sdcard. Instead it is a part of the internal memory, you can use it for example for media, documents, images etc., whatever you like. This partition can be accessed on your computer as a regular USB-storage, and you can do a backup of it the way you like, either simply copying everything, or using a backup-solution of your choice.
external_sd (optional) - This is the micro-sd-card you can put in your phone. Obviously you can use it for anything you like. This partition is also accessible as a USB-storage or you can use a simple USB card-reader to access it on your computer.
Usually all your applications and settings will be stored in the /data/-partition.
If you choose the Move-to-SD option in the application-manager, some parts of the application will be moved to the (internal) /sdcard/-partition, but all the user-data/settings still remain on the /data/-partition.
So the maximum space you need to backup all your settings and apps is under 3GB.
Now to the possibilities of a backup, and the importance of the different things.
A nandroid-backup will basically make an image of the /system/ and /data/ partitions (also a bit more, but that´s not really important).
Usually it will use the /sdcard/-partition, which actually is still in your phone.
If you restore a Nandroid-Backup your System will be in the exact state before the backup, including all applications with their settings (which also means contacts, e-mails, sms etc).
Obviously everything that has changed after the backup will be lost.
A restore well also restore the complete firmware from the backup.
A backup from Nandroid can only be restored on the same phone, with the same partitions.
The second possibility to make backups would be TitaniumBackup.
This program will store all your installed applications and their data.
Default it will store it on the internal /sdcard/, but it is probably more useful to change the path to the external_sd.
Everything in Android is an application, so this will also save all your settings.
During a restore TitaniumBackup simply reinstalls your applications and then restores their settings.
TitaniumBackup can restore your applications with any Firmware, and in theory even on other phones (it may not work with special System-apps but it surely works with most "user-apps")
So Clockworkmod is great if you want to play around with different firmwares, especially Custom ROMs.
You can install different ROMs, make a backup and very easy and fast switch between them.
For a "regular" backup TitaniumBackup is maybe the better choice, it can backup all your settings and applications and for example if a Firmware-update goes wrong simply restore anything.
There is no real need to backup the /system/-partition anyway, you can simply download the Firmware and flash it, there is no user-data on this partition.
sdcard and external_sd usually only contains media, which you probably have somewhere on your PC anyway, so there is no real need for a backup, maybe for the pictures and videos you make with your phone, but again you should copy this on your PC regularly anyway. And if you want you can easily copy everything on it as well.
What if I have 20gb of data , 10 of which are on phone, 10 on sd card, in this case i wouldn't be able to backup everything?
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Question is if I have my phone filled with games, different apps which make let's say 10 gb (not that much counting in that one game may be up to 1 gb), so how do i backup this? To SD card?[/quote]
Apps can´t be several GB in size on Android. Normally you have only around 2GB for Apps, if you use the App2SD-feature it can be expanded a bit.
If applications need a lot of data, for example like navigation-programs or games, they will download this on the first start and store this on the /sdcard/-partition.
As I said, you can access this easily like a removable drive and copy everything you like.
It isn´t also that important to make a backup of this, as it can be downloaded again anytime, and if something goes wrong it usually will mess up your system and don´t influence the data-partition anyway (well as long as you don´t repartition the whole memory)

Thank you, that does explain a lot!
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
Tomas

execine said:
Thank you, that does explain a lot!
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
Tomas
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No, they are stored in /data
You back that up using nandroid, then you restore it via nandroid and they will be there. What you see on your PC via USB is the "internal SD".

Understood, thank you. Things getting more clear after a week of reading and using the phone ))
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execine said:
I connected my S2, but i can't see to find any installed apps browsing through USB, or i shouldn't be seeing that?
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No, you see the (internal) /sdcard/ partition and (if present) the /external_sd/ (the MicroSD-card you have in your phone)
To simply backup your applications, the easiest way is TitaniumBackup.
This will store the .apk and settings for each up in a folder of your choice (on /sdcard/ or /external_sd/, as you usually have no direct access to the other partitions)
You can copy this folder on your PC, or even in the TitaniumBackup-folder of another phone and use it there.
There are several advantages using TitaniumBackup to save your Apps over CWM-recovery. You can use it with the enabled phone for example, and also just restore individual Apps, if you like.

[Q] What can I safely delete?

According to SD card Analyst I have
Clockworkmod: 1.99GB
TWRP: 1.12GB
TBU: 383MB
As you can imagine, that is a BIG chunk out of my 6GB total!
I have flashed lots of ROMs in the last couple of weeks but I have now settled on one. AFAIK all I need to keep is the current bakup in TWRP in case anything happens.
I would be glad for some advice as to what I can safely delete. I don't want to make a mistake as my system is running brilliantly right now.
Many thanks for any help!

StrangerWeather said:
According to SD card Analyst I have
Clockworkmod: 1.99GB
TWRP: 1.12GB
TBU: 383MB
As you can imagine, that is a BIG chunk out of my 6GB total!
I have flashed lots of ROMs in the last couple of weeks but I have now settled on one. AFAIK all I need to keep is the current bakup in TWRP in case anything happens.
I would be glad for some advice as to what I can safely delete. I don't want to make a mistake as my system is running brilliantly right now.
Many thanks for any help!
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As you already said, you should keep the TWRP backup as a safety net... The dated folders in the Clockworkmod can be deleted if you don't need to use them any more. Just leave the main folder but delete the sub folders.
TBU backups are just your apps + data... if you don't need data restored (since you probably have them in your TWRP backup) you can delete the contents there as well.

StrangerWeather said:
According to SD card Analyst I have
Clockworkmod: 1.99GB
TWRP: 1.12GB
TBU: 383MB
As you can imagine, that is a BIG chunk out of my 6GB total!
I have flashed lots of ROMs in the last couple of weeks but I have now settled on one. AFAIK all I need to keep is the current bakup in TWRP in case anything happens.
I would be glad for some advice as to what I can safely delete. I don't want to make a mistake as my system is running brilliantly right now.
Many thanks for any help!
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I agree with cvcduty, but I just wondered if there was a reason you use both TWRP and Clockworkmod, especially on an 8GB N7 with limited space. I've always just used CWM, so I was curious
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7

RockNrolling said:
I agree with cvcduty, but I just wondered if there was a reason you use both TWRP and Clockworkmod, especially on an 8GB N7 with limited space. I've always just used CWM, so I was curious
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7
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Well, to be honest the answer is a bit silly: I am not aware of having used CWM, I didn't even know I had it!
Can I uninstall it altogether? And if so, how?

In CWM, there is a folder called Blobs with 1.78GB worth of folders. Is it safe to delete it?

If you don't use cwm then yes you can delete it.
I removed mine aswell as I have a nandroid backup on my PC which I can adb push if worst comes
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The clockworkmod APK
and
The clockworkmod RECOVERY
both use that same folder. Every time you flash a cyanogen Rom it had the apk installed by default. So that's where it's coming from.
In the folder back up the Nandroid folder or the one with data system recovery files (140-250mb) to your computer and then delete the whole dang folder if you do not use clockwork recovery.
As for titanium you can use the cloud storage feature and save another 500mb
carved via Ville

running out of space

I have flashed many Roms, but lately I am running out of room on my internal storage. I wipe everything 3 times and storage says I have only 4 GB left. What am I doing wrong? I recently install JB and a game I ha enter played in a while. I opened the game and it wanted to continue play from 8 weeks ago. Any help would be great.

romagnus said:
I have flashed many Roms, but lately I am running out of room on my internal storage. I wipe everything 3 times and storage says I have only 4 GB left. What am I doing wrong? I recently install JB and a game I ha enter played in a while. I opened the game and it wanted to continue play from 8 weeks ago. Any help would be great.
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It could be your internal storage is just filled with game data and other files that don't normally get deleted when doing Rom wipes.
If you "really" want to clean your system of off the old stuff, then when you boot into your CWM Recovery, select "Backup and Restore". Then select "Toggle Data Media".
When you do your wipes and formats, it will "REALLY" wipe all your data from your tab. Fotos, Game data, downloaded files, etc.
Then install your rom.
MD

Moscow Desire said:
It could be your internal storage is just filled with game data and other files that don't normally get deleted when doing Rom wipes.
If you "really" want to clean your system of off the old stuff, then when you boot into your CWM Recovery, select "Backup and Restore". Then select "Toggle Data Media".
When you do your wipes and formats, it will "REALLY" wipe all your data from your tab. Fotos, Game data, downloaded files, etc.
Then install your rom.
MD
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thanks for your reply. it would appear that I have no option for "toggle data media " on my device in the section you designated. I will keep looking.

How many nanoid backup do you have? Each time you do a backup from cwm it creates a huge file , 400+ mb. Delete some of them with a file manager like ROM manager or ES file explorer.
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dadecamp said:
How many nanoid backup do you have? Each time you do a backup from cwm it creates a huge file , 400+ mb. Delete some of them with a file manager like ROM manager or ES file explorer.
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I have one backup. I moved everything in titanium backup to my external storage and deleted the one backup. I went from 4GB to 7GB.

romagnus said:
I have one backup. I moved everything in titanium backup to my external storage and deleted the one backup. I went from 4GB to 7GB.
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As always, there is more information than what was told....
As with CWM, you have to be running the newer versions. Next time, might want to give a little more info. TB will by default, for those that still use it, save all data to internal SD.
MD

Moscow Desire said:
As always, there is more information than what was told....
As with CWM, you have to be running the newer versions. Next time, might want to give a little more info. TB will by default, for those that still use it, save all data to internal SD.
MD
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yea, the last time i used TB according to the back up was almost a year ago. I always deleted it when it came with a new rom. I had no idea the file was still on my storage much less a backed up rom. but thanks for the assist anyways.

In TB you can always choose to set ext sd as target for backup. Well thats what i do. Knowing me I'm probably wrong lol

[Q] Flashing Omega 7.1 on the Note 3

Hello everyone, I've been an android fan for a long time but have only recently gotten my first smartphone- a Note 3.
Anyway, I flashed the Poland 4.4.2 a few days ago and I've afraid to flash Omega well basically I'm new to all of this.
Questions:
1. Do I need an sdcard to flash Omega 7.1? I currently don't have one and will be unable to get one for maybe at least a month.
2. I honestly love TW except for a few features it has that I don't use. So just to be clear, when I flash Omega 7.1 will I have the ability to select which TW apps(s-note,s-pen,etc) to install and not install(s-health,etc)?
3. I have TB installed and I am rooted. I have periodically made backups of all my application data. Will performing a full wipe remove the backups?(Knowing that I currently don't have an sdcard). Do I need to save TB backups on my desktop then?
4. What course of action do you guys recommend I should take to have the best possible and most error free experience with Omega 7.1 I should take?No wipe or full wipe? Will no wipe retain all my data?Application, phonebook,messages?I assume full wipe means all data will be lost.
Thank you for those who will be able to help and answer my queries especially those experienced with the Omega rom.
I tried searching the forums regarding the questions I have but I couldn't find them so resorting to posting a separate thread.
More power to the XDA Community! :good:

Mandirigma said:
Hello everyone, I've been an android fan for a long time but have only recently gotten my first smartphone- a Note 3.
Anyway, I flashed the Poland 4.4.2 a few days ago and I've afraid to flash Omega well basically I'm new to all of this.
Questions:
1. Do I need an sdcard to flash Omega 7.1? I currently don't have one and will be unable to get one for maybe at least a month.
2. I honestly love TW except for a few features it has that I don't use. So just to be clear, when I flash Omega 7.1 will I have the ability to select which TW apps(s-note,s-pen,etc) to install and not install(s-health,etc)?
3. I have TB installed and I am rooted. I have periodically made backups of all my application data. Will performing a full wipe remove the backups?(Knowing that I currently don't have an sdcard). Do I need to save TB backups on my desktop then?
4. What course of action do you guys recommend I should take to have the best possible and most error free experience with Omega 7.1 I should take?No wipe or full wipe? Will no wipe retain all my data?Application, phonebook,messages?I assume full wipe means all data will be lost.
Thank you for those who will be able to help and answer my queries especially those experienced with the Omega rom.
I tried searching the forums regarding the questions I have but I couldn't find them so resorting to posting a separate thread.
More power to the XDA Community! :good:
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Nope no need for an extSD card.(advisable to get one incase of mishaps) - Just don't wipe internal memory if you plan to flash directly from your internal SD!
All TW functions are intact unless ROM Dev says otherwise - Aroma set up wizard will guide you through.. and those you don't want you can freeze with TiB
You can use TB fixer to restore your backups without issue
Full wipe all the way, fixes 99% of any potential issues

radicalisto said:
Nope no need for an extSD card.(advisable to get one incase of mishaps) - Just don't wipe internal memory if you plan to flash directly from your internal SD!
All TW functions are intact unless ROM Dev says otherwise - Aroma set up wizard will guide you through.. and those you don't want you can freeze with TiB
You can use TB fixer to restore your backups without issue
Full wipe all the way, fixes 99% of any potential issues
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Wow that was fast.
Clarification:
is TB fixer an app?or a TB functionality? I haven't really played with TB yet. Will it be much easier if I made backups and then just store the backups on my pc and then do a full wipe and then restore the backups after flashing Omega? I find that the most straightforward approach but then again, things might be different in the Android community

Mandirigma said:
Wow that was fast.
Clarification:
is TB fixer an app?or a TB functionality? I haven't really played with TB yet. Will it be much easier if I made backups and then just store the backups on my PC and then do a full wipe and then restore the backups after flashing Omega? I find that the most straightforward approach but then again, things might be different in the Android community
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A full wipe will not delete internal or external memory cards' data. It will just remove personal system data. Nevertheless, it is not a bad idea to have a copy elsewhere.
I always make a copy in my external memory card and do what ever I want with the device with the external memory out just in case. and then put it back in when done.
The TB fixer is included (I believe) with Omega 7.1. I strongly recommend a full wipe.
good luck.

y2kkingboy said:
A full wipe will not delete internal or external memory cards' data. It will just remove personal system data. Nevertheless, it is not a bad idea to have a copy elsewhere.
I always make a copy in my external memory card and do what ever I want with the device with the external memory out just in case. and then put it back in when done.
The TB fixer is included (I believe) with Omega 7.1. I strongly recommend a full wipe.
good luck.
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Ahh,thank you for that. The terminologies scare me as of now and what they actually implied since it'll be a pain in the ass recovering the data I have. I will perform a full backup with TB and will make a copy to my desktop just in case since I don't have an external memory yet mimicking what you do with making a copy to your extSD and taking it out.
I am now downloading the necessary stuff. I will post an update later.
thank you for the responses guys!

update: I have now successfully flashed Omega 7.1 on my Note 3.
thank you very much for clarifying you guys!

Mandirigma said:
update: I have now successfully flashed Omega 7.1 on my Note 3.
thank you very much for clarifying you guys!
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Great. Glad to be able to help you.

Backup, Unrooting and Restore

So i have a samsung s8 G950F Rooted running android 7.0, But im having lots of troubles, apps crashing etc etc, so i want to factory reset, unroot and then upate to 8.0 and then root again. so my questions are
1. what is the best method of backing up everything ? like apps positions, apps data, photos, videos, and contacts , so basically a full backup?
2. how to properly unroot My device?
3. how to restore my full backup?
any help is appreciated, thank you, i looked around, but all the posts are from 4-5 years ago, so id like to know the most recent and advanced way

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ZainHikary said:
So i have a samsung s8 G950F Rooted running android 7.0, But im having lots of troubles, apps crashing etc etc, so i want to factory reset, unroot and then upate to 8.0 and then root again. so my questions are
1. what is the best method of backing up everything ? like apps positions, apps data, photos, videos, and contacts , so basically a full backup?
2. how to properly unroot My device?
3. how to restore my full backup?
any help is appreciated, thank you, i looked around, but all the posts are from 4-5 years ago, so id like to know the most recent and advanced way
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Hello, i am gonna answer your questions one by one
1. by apps positions if you mean the apps on the screens of the android then they are gonna moved after format, even after restore your backup. second you are gonna need titanium backup from playstore. Since you have root download lucky patcher from your browser or from your pc and patch the titanium backup you just downloaded from PlayStore .. and then select backup your apps, i suggest you to backup the on a usb with the adapter from the box of your phone , or on a sd card, be carefull do not wipe them . the contacts you can go to the Contacts apps and on the settings back them up to your Sd Card or to your Usb Otg.. Unless if you have them moved on your Sim Card then no need to backup them
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Your videos and your other personal data move them all from the internal storage to your Usb or to Sd card too ..
2. you dont need to unroot your device to update your device, which methods are you gonna use to upgrade your phone? firmware from odin ? You are gonna need to root your device after the update then .
3. if you use titanium backup then you are gonna find the restore option on the app . your personal data from your usb or sd you are need to move them on your internal storage , and restore the contacts.

Get titanium, backup needed apps on external sd. Instal twrp through odin, insall custom rom like alexega or sac (wipe system and data before or some roms already offer this options).
Later restore backups of needed apps through titanium. All files on sd card/s will remain after new rom installation (if you are unsure backup your media files to computer), just dont wipe media/internal sd. Forget about restoring full backup, if you have a lot of rubbish code flowing around you need get rid of it, just back up apps with data that are important. That's how you should do it.
Ps: Ideally everyone should format data once 3 months and restore backups of needed apps later, it's the only way to keep it in excellent working condition

Extreemator said:
Get titanium, backup needed apps on external sd. Instal twrp through odin, insall custom rom like alexega or sac (wipe system and data before or some roms already offer this options).
Later restore backups of needed apps through titanium. All files on sd card/s will remain after new rom installation (if you are unsure backup your media files to computer), just dont wipe media/internal sd. Forget about restoring full backup, if you have a lot of rubbish code flowing around you need get rid of it, just back up apps with data that are important. That's how you should do it.
Ps: Ideally everyone should format data once 3 months and restore backups of needed apps later, it's the only way to keep it in excellent working condition
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probably you didnt read my post above.

StonebridgeGr said:
Hello, i am gonna answer your questions one by one
1. by apps positions if you mean the apps on the screens of the android then they are gonna moved after format, even after restore your backup. second you are gonna need titanium backup from playstore. Since you have root download lucky patcher from your browser or from your pc and patch the titanium backup you just downloaded from PlayStore .. and then select backup your apps, i suggest you to backup the on a usb with the adapter from the box of your phone , or on a sd card, be carefull do not wipe them . the contacts you can go to the Contacts apps and on the settings back them up to your Sd Card or to your Usb Otg.. Unless if you have them moved on your Sim Card then no need to backup them
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Your videos and your other personal data move them all from the internal storage to your Usb or to Sd card too ..
2. you dont need to unroot your device to update your device, which methods are you gonna use to upgrade your phone? firmware from odin ? You are gonna need to root your device after the update then .
3. if you use titanium backup then you are gonna find the restore option on the app . your personal data from your usb or sd you are need to move them on your internal storage , and restore the contacts.
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Thanks a lot worked like a charm

Extreemator said:
Get titanium, backup needed apps on external sd. Instal twrp through odin, insall custom rom like alexega or sac (wipe system and data before or some roms already offer this options).
Later restore backups of needed apps through titanium. All files on sd card/s will remain after new rom installation (if you are unsure backup your media files to computer), just dont wipe media/internal sd. Forget about restoring full backup, if you have a lot of rubbish code flowing around you need get rid of it, just back up apps with data that are important. That's how you should do it.
Ps: Ideally everyone should format data once 3 months and restore backups of needed apps later, it's the only way to keep it in excellent working condition
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Thank you so much !!

Also while we are at it!
What's the difference between wipe and format
So I got the oem lock thing and i have to wait 7 days etc
So when I get the poem unlock I'll be rooting my device
But to install tarp and magisk I have to "wipe" data
What exactly will be wiped?
My pictures and videos or apps or what exactly so I know before rooting

ZainHikary said:
Also while we are at it!
What's the difference between wipe and format
So I got the oem lock thing and i have to wait 7 days etc
So when I get the poem unlock I'll be rooting my device
But to install tarp and magisk I have to "wipe" data
What exactly will be wiped?
My pictures and videos or apps or what exactly so I know before rooting
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It's same but it very differnt. it's confusing. Format data in this case applies to full data wipe. While if you go to twrp wipe menu and choose to wipe data, it won't touch media (folder with all user files) folder in data. While format will erase all patrition and reformat it.
All will be deleted, since it's full data wipe with media. Just data wipe without media deletes just apps. You won't need to install magisk or su separately if you install custom rom like i mentioned.

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It's same but it very differnt. it's confusing. Format data in this case applies to full data wipe. While if you go to twrp wipe menu and choose to wipe data, it won't touch media (folder with all user files) folder in data. While format will erase all patrition and reformat it.
All will be deleted, since it's full data wipe with media. Just data wipe without media deletes just apps. You won't need to install magisk or su separately if you install custom rom like i mentioned.
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Well I ended up installing the official rom for oreo I'm waiting for oem unlock soon, I wanna install twrp and root using magisk, but one of the requirement is to "wipe" in this case it's just the apps? I'm gonna backup just in case anyway! But I want to make sure

All will be deleted no reason to make surerer. I hope you understood titanium part, although i recommend it only if you have important apps, with data that i use (i have only a few), otherwise throw them out.
Then after you installl, you can make full backup of data through twrp. I usually do it after a week i installed rom i choose, and if i install a lot of apps i no longer need, and overall android gets slower, i just restore this back up and always have os that is 1 week old without any setting up to do. After just a couple of apps i restore recent data to them with titanium. If you had this with phone it becomes problematic as you said, i suggest you to remember how to do it.