Home-Made Android Console??? - Android Software Development

Hi, XDA Community!
Is it possible to make my own Android console with components off the internet?
I was mainly aiming to by the OUYA but betting on a Tegra3 device isn't convincing enough after seeing the potential Tegra4 has.
So, is there a way to make my out Tegra4 device with simple AOSP ROM to hook with my TV and use whatever I like???

If you have to ask, then no. Do you own the necessary equipment to even solder a tegra chip to the main board?

That's exactly my question.
Is it anywhere possible to create an Android console with PC-like components?

You can give this a whirl I suppose.
www.howchip.com/shop/item.php?it_id=BRIX5250A

www.gamestick.tv
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That Exynos board looks nice enough though I was looking for one with Tegra4 for game support.
Samsung is doing a good job too, anyway ?
And for the second link, it looks good plug-and-play-wise but its components are a bit out of date (only 1GB RAM... etc.).
Still good to know there's people working on that, though.
Seeing how I can't let go of my Android phone, I wanted a full entertainment center on a bigger screen.
I thought the OUYA would blow my mind but then came more ?

Fredrick Sylar said:
That Exynos board looks nice enough though I was looking for one with Tegra4 for game support.
Samsung is doing a good job too, anyway ?
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I find it extremely unlikely that Tegra 4 would come out with a Dev Board of some sort. Tegra is generally quite closed when it comes to this sort of thing. Samsung on the other hand does license its chips to other people.

Then probably waiting a little for a board with their Octa chip.
I don't know if it was possible but a custom kernel to operate with all 8 cores and liquid coolant would make one badass entertainment center ?
EDIT: thanks fellas.
You've been really helpful.

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wouldnt it be nice to put 1ghz processor in blackstone

i was just wondering with so many custom modifications being made to blackstone... in its software department by developers.... why havent we seen someone taking out the 529mhz processor and replacing it with the 1ghz snapdragon processor.... if not tht than something like a 800mhz or 600mhz processor....
and with that increasing ram a bit aswell to say like 512mb
hispeedworm said:
i was just wondering with so many custom modifications being made to blackstone... in its software department by developers.... why havent we seen someone taking out the 529mhz processor and replacing it with the 1ghz snapdragon processor.... if not tht than something like a 800mhz or 600mhz processor....
and with that increasing ram a bit aswell to say like 512mb
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I think they basically did that..........It's called the LEO!
not by htc... i mean by some basement modification.... like someone takes his hd n experiments on it a bit... not goin out and buying a newer model
all the cpus dont have the same nr of pins and located in the same places
Nothing's impossible!!! I'll get Mike Channon to start working on a tutorial toute suite!!! Will you look at his dedication with 3 packs of 3M floppy disks!!!
ACER F1
If you want snap dragon power in a Touch hd format then you want the ACER f1, together with the announcment that XDA is going to start support third party devices it makes this phone start to lok quite interesting as it is much cheaper than the HD2 and a better size in my opinion. The Nexus one is also another alternative if andriod floats you boat, it doesnt flat mine at the moment but it may get better in the not too distant furure.
A 1Ghz processor, and a Tegra graphics chip, and a 10mp camera with 720p video recording, and an AMOLED screen, and multi touchnessness, and...
the tech is there, "they" just dont want to deliver and "ultimate handset, they prefer to trckle out the tech in order that we buy handset after handset after another hoping for that perfect one. Look at the HD2, great handset but no 720p enabled, no TV out, it could have been a monster. maybe next time eh?
stoolzo said:
the tech is there, "they" just dont want to deliver and "ultimate handset, they prefer to trckle out the tech in order that we buy handset after handset after another hoping for that perfect one. Look at the HD2, great handset but no 720p enabled, no TV out, it could have been a monster. maybe next time eh?
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Wouldn't bet on it. HTC have a habit of not really advancing great amounts between each device released. Look at the specs of latest devices and forthcoming ones....no real improvement whatsoever!!
Fallen Spartan said:
Wouldn't bet on it. HTC have a habit of not really advancing great amounts between each device released. Look at the specs of latest devices and forthcoming ones....no real improvement whatsoever!!
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Couldn't agree more. There is really no device that has all the nice features in it. They want to create variety of devices to sell more. It's all about marketing strategy.
hispeedworm said:
i was just wondering with so many custom modifications being made to blackstone... in its software department by developers.... why havent we seen someone taking out the 529mhz processor and replacing it with the 1ghz snapdragon processor.... if not tht than something like a 800mhz or 600mhz processor....
and with that increasing ram a bit aswell to say like 512mb
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i whas wondering it to and in that topic we came to the conclusion that if it eventually would be possible to upgrade hardware there also need to be made different roms matchings the devices hardware
Fallen Spartan said:
Wouldn't bet on it. HTC have a habit of not really advancing great amounts between each device released. Look at the specs of latest devices and forthcoming ones....no real improvement whatsoever!!
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that only serves to prove my point
st3ph3nt3 said:
Couldn't agree more. There is really no device that has all the nice features in it. They want to create variety of devices to sell more. It's all about marketing strategy.
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quite right, its a numbers game, a perfect device would kill the market.
and as to the question, do you have any idea whats involved in changing hardware in the HD? firstly its a chipset, its not just one chip you stick any chip thats not ment to be in there and it isnt going to work, you would need to change the whole set, that pretty much means your sticking a new PCB in. not even to mention the pin and track layouts.
secondly the software isnt like a computer, you cant swap things and install new drivers, mostly because there are no drivers, the OS is made HTC then build the base platform around the hardware. Back in the day you might have found an old PDA that had two versions one had more RAM perhaps, the spaces on the PCB might be in the cheeper version which aloud you to upgrade the RAM. Those days are gone. take a look at any PDA PCB and you will see several surface mounted ICs on a tiny PCB.

Android 3.0 Honeycomb multicore support, traces of smartphone support!! etc...

Andy Rubin said Honeycomb has onscreen buttons.
Do you think we will quit using the capacitive buttons once updated? Will they stop illuminating?
We would save battery from them not lighting and the lack of haptic feedback.
Thoughts?
Sent from my Nexus S
AndroidZ28 said:
Andy Rubin said Honeycomb has onscreen buttons.
Do you think we will quit using the capacitive buttons once updated? Will they stop illuminating?
We would save battery from them not lighting and the lack of haptic feedback.
Thoughts?
Sent from my Nexus S
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It all depends on how it is implemented, and haptic feedback will never go away, haptic feedback isnt just for capacitive buttons.
and the LEDs from the buttons dont even use much power
I thought that Andy Rubin said that was only implying for tablets since they have more space for a dedicated taskbar.
I know all haptic would not go away, I meant just for the keys. Taking away some vibrations and leds would help battery some...
Also there are some people who have capacitive button issues but don't want to exchange the phone because nothing else is wrong - they wouldn't have to!
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I personally doubt that many would quit, especially on mobiles. Tablets, yes (for instance if the Galaxy Tab recieved Honeycomb), but due to the relative small size of mobile displays, I imagine having the capacitive buttons would be useful. And I doubt it would save much battery, but then again I don't know how much they use in the first place.
Maybe the onscreen buttons will only be for tablets? Who knows...
I think the Nexus would look good with nothing lit up at the bottom.
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honeycomb has on screen buttons for the tablets only. There are two variations of honeycomb, one for phones and one for tablets.
The tablet version has a black bar on the bottom that has all the buttons that the phones normally have, and more. It moves around depending on the orientation of the screen, this was done so that no matter what way you hold the device you always have easy access to the buttons.
On the phones thats useless since all phones have the buttons on them, not to mention it would take up a good amount of screen space and lead to possible burn in issues if the buttons are always there.
Anyone see this news about Honeycomb - requires Dual Core?
Hi - Just came across 2 articles (PhoneDog and original source PCMag), that Honeycomb requires dual core - if so, won't this hurt us NS owners (or any single core Android phones)?
I get that these articles are talking about tablets, but just wondered of Google was planning to create a light (lack of a better term) version for phones? Sorry, don't know much about how this all works, so I wasn't sure if the same OS on tablets, would also be the same one we get on phones.
PhoneDog:
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/01/03/rumor-honeycomb-requires-a-dual-core-processor-high-res-display/
PCMag:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375016,00.asp
Lies! ... all lies
They start these rumors every single time about a future OS coming out...
PCMAG:
Google's new Android Honeycomb tablet OS will require a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor to run properly, said Bobby Cha, managing director of Korean consumer electronics firm Enspert.
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They're just rumors.. I highly doubt that this is true. There are no evidence to back this up, it is just some "analyst" who think he knows what he's talking about.
That's like saying the next Windows will drop support for Dual Core CPUs and only support Quad and above. It isn't realistic.
Obviously not true, that isn't Google's way of working.
remember the whole gingerbread requiring 1ghz processor..yea, that was BS
Whew! Thank you guys - now I don't have to return my baby!
Every article/rumor is saying "Honeycomb tablet OS." Nothing about the phone version. So it could be true for tablets, but I highly doubt it'll be true for phones. Not yet anyways.
oke,here is some logical sense
honeycomb is getting optimized for tablet's 'Hmm?
all the new Tablet's in the future are already getting nvidia dual core chip thingy. 'hmm?
a tablet has a bigger screen.
if you put a 30 inch screen on a windows xp single core machine and play games on it. 'Hmm?
what happens?
yes. it will run slower :3
so i am guessing.
because of the big screens on tablets,the tablets need dual core.
so assume we mobile phone users dont requir a dual core.
ghost010 said:
oke,here is some logical sense
honeycomb is getting optimized for tablet's 'Hmm?
all the new Tablet's in the future are already getting nvidia dual core chip thingy. 'hmm?
a tablet has a bigger screen.
if you put a 30 inch screen on a windows xp single core machine and play games on it. 'Hmm?
what happens?
yes. it will run slower :3
so i am guessing.
because of the big screens on tablets,the tablets need dual core.
so assume we mobile phone users dont requir a dual core.
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.....that logic is so faulty imho, 1ghz single core is more than enough power for an average tablet
Everyone is missing the verbatim quote:
Google's new Android Honeycomb tablet OS will require a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor to run properly,
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This is the same line that was touted during froyo/gingerbread. The OS will run properly on target hardware, that does not mean it's a requirement.
Since the very beginning andy rubin has stated the android ecosystem is similar to windows ecosystem in terms of upgrades. Meaning, that as technology moves forward so do the possibilities.
With the tablet form factor and layouts you will have views inside views, something that NEEDS more power to do. This DOES NOT MEAN phones cannot run the base OS. A phone will NEVER require to have a view within a view, because lets face it it's a 4" screen.
Just like the NFC/bluetooth/wifi/ffc apis are hardware dependent so will the "tablet API" be dependent on actual hardware that performs better.
This will probably mean a get out jail free card for samsung so they never have to update the TAB, but something tells me it's be an encore presenation of the LG fiasco with the Optimus line.
Expect to see honeycomb on phones from modder commmunity (CM and co). They'll probably hack in the tablet API just for the hell of it, even if it's useless on a handset screen.
this is nothing official, just someone's opinion. however we did all see the video of the motorola prototype at allthingsd site, and he flat out said "we take new hardware, new screen, etc" and it was running the dual core tegra cpu. that right there should give an indication of where they want tablets to go. sure it might not be REQUIRED. but i mean, the proof is right there, it was running a dual core.
RogerPodacter said:
this is nothing official, just someone's opinion. however we did all see the video of the motorola prototype at allthingsd site, and he flat out said "we take new hardware, new screen, etc" and it was running the dual core tegra cpu. that right there should give an indication of where they want tablets to go. sure it might not be REQUIRED. but i mean, the proof is right there, it was running a dual core.
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I honestly dont see any next generation tablets with a single core processor, same thing with phones too. is dual core needed for the every day user..oh hell no. but does it sound good and is it going to sell product, hell f'ng yes
I have no fear that the NS will get honeycomb.

Building ARM PC from old qualcom boards?

Sometimes good ideas come from bad situations! Yesterday my girlfriend accidently kicked my lg optimus v into a glass of ginger ale. This is really putting a damper on my kernel development projects.
Anyways to see if I could save the phone at all to use till the replacement gets here I had an idea. Why not reuse the working board and build a mini arm pc with embedded linux on it.
So I'm wondering if anyone out there knows if qualcom will give you chipset schematics and data sheets there site seems fairly sparse. I need schematics for the msm7627. See I figured you could replace the charger with a five port hub then bypass the battery and connect a power supply to the board. You can easily build keyboard mouse support into even the android kernel. But I'm wondering how to connect a monitor maybe if you knew the lcd pin layout you could connect a vga screen to the old socket for the lcd. This is where I think I need schematics unless the pin layout is standard?
I have so many qualcom arm phones with screen damage why not make them into low powered desktop arm dev systems or server, routers, embedded toasters?
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Qualcomm? Schematics for Qualcomm CPUs? Hah! Sorry, forget it. It's probably harder to get than sourcecode of current version of Windows.
There are leaked parts of schemas/manuals for older SoCs. Also if you can find ARMLinux (Android) kernel for such qualcomm CPU - You can build whole new system basing on SFRs description and deep analyse of mainboard. But without schemas it's hundreds hours of blind shots.
I think the biggest issue your going to face is the fact that Qualcomm has never been keen on giving out architectural sheets on their chipsets. Since most newer chipsets incorporate improvements from older models, it would be akin to them giving their competitors access to some very guarded information.
The odds of them giving the design to you without you representing a company that is licensing their chipset for use in a phone, greatly decreases your chances even further.
On a positive note, bypassing the battery should be relatively simple, however, as with all lithium batteries there is a voltage control mechanism built into the phone that you will need to adapt to function properly with a different type of power supply.
As for the monitor, the odds of you being able to adapt a VGA/HDMI cable to a system that is designed to read input from the touchscreen/digitizer is another chore, and would require you to pioneer something from scratch.
I would say your work is cut out for you.
If you really want to do something like this, buy a Raspberry Pi when they hit. It'll be much more adaptable to what your looking to do.
~Jasecloud4
Yap, why going for stuffs like dat? It will blow the entire time u have got to work with roms.
About supply, yap u can manage it.
About chip spec. , its hard
About external/internal display, its nearly impossible unless u have VGA/HDMI o/p.
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Well my primary device is is trashed from it beimg totally drenched in soda so all my kernel development is at a schreeching halt basically. Hopefully it will be replaced in the next few days so I can get back on track.
As far as building a little workstation goes that dream is dead lol. I bypassed the battery and hooked the board up to a power supply that was 3volts at 1300ma and it smoked the board. I have plenty of other qualcom phones with bad screens but I didn't realize that they were so closed. I was just tryin to make crap into something usefull lol.
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this rasberry pi thing is exactly what I was looking for and its just the right price! Seriously this is goning to be an awesome little system to vnc into and build arm based assembly. The only thing qualcom has over this is that there are obviously kernel supported drivers for it to use the multiple arm chips and dsp chips so I'm assuming the low end msm 7x qualcom boards are a bit faster although idk they said this thing will push q3 at 1080p. I'm also looking at the beagleboard but this has such a nice price price 25 bucks is right up everyones ally. I smell an android port!
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If you're looking for something with good open source support AND open documentation - check out the BeagleBoard and PandaBoard.
PandaBoard ES has the same CPU as the GNex.
rwgast said:
....So I'm wondering if anyone out there knows if qualcom will give you chipset schematics and data sheets there site seems fairly sparse....
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Unlikely. Qualcomm considers the information proprietary and requires you to contact support. See Where are the datasheets?
Here are some! Hack away!

Android on a Stick HDMI USB

Has anyone had a chance to try out these new Android Micro/Mini computers yet?
First impressions?
Would you use as your main media centre now XBMC is Android compatible?
They are the size of a USB stick usually with integrated wifi, USB port and HDMI port as well as a micro SD expansion slot. Looks cool.
http://youtu.be/akp2hYE1dZ0
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-Processor-Media-Center/803232_550274999.html
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-a...r-w-wi-fi-hdmi-usb-micro-usb-black-4gb-141171
It looks nice but a x86 one would be better. I suggest you wait a little. Also I think this should be in android general
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sounds cool
coooool
Answer to the ques
Yh I know what you're taking about , the USB drives are trending nowadays but I hardly can figure out a reason for them with 1.0 Ghz and 512 ddr2 ram which I believe is the maximum specifacion those USB form factor can go. They’re limited to arm instruction set , which means arm software and not x86
so nothing will work instead of android , however I have heard of Ubuntu ARM port.But I believe installing Ubuntu or any other Linux on that USB will be hard to implement
and I think after you install ubuntu you can customize it to make it more like XBMC
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
awesome
brutoid said:
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
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That's awesome, might have to pick one up. Especially with XBMC and VLC for android this would make an incredible media solution.
brutoid said:
They come in much better flavours than those posted above. I like this one:
http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G133999328931
It is basically the Galaxy S3 board with extra peripherals, more than enough for a decent low-powered htpc imo. Runs ubuntu pretty well considering there are no open source Mali drivers.......yet
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Still not a bad choice but I want a S4 with Adreno 320
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Any1 bought it ?
Its chinese....
it can blow right on my face
Im just gonna wait a little and see what else comes along, see room for improvement
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I think it looks awesome even compared with the $25 Raspberry Pi's out there. I'd like to get one, but then again I can use my GS2 for just about everything I need and it'll have more power. It'd be good to have one of these little guys in case I went to someone's house for a weekend or on vacation and needed a basic PC to browse internet, etc.
Good find none-the-less.
I've been following these a lot and so far have been pretty disappointed.
There are a few different ones, the best specs-wise being the cStick.
Always Innovating HDMI dongle (only selling to vendors I believe)
http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/01...eils-open-source-android-4-0-hdmi-dongle-stb/
Mini X Plus and/or Mk802 (my problem with this company is I was reading on their forums reports of both overheating and 512MB models being sold as 1GB).
https://www.miniand.com/products/Mini Xplus TV Box H24
Apparently the Roku streaming stick requires MHL-enabled televisions.
And the best I've seen the cStick has been delayed time and time again and so far haven't updated their status in months.
http://www.fxitech.com/products/
If anyone knows about any more let me know!
JasonD416 said:
I've been following these a lot and so far have been pretty disappointed.
There are a few different ones, the best specs-wise being the cStick.
Always Innovating HDMI dongle (only selling to vendors I believe)
Mini X Plus and/or Mk802 (my problem with this company is I was reading on their forums reports of both overheating and 512MB models being sold as 1GB).
Apparently the Roku streaming stick requires MHL-enabled televisions.
And the best I've seen the cStick has been delayed time and time again and so far haven't updated their status in months.
If anyone knows about any more let me know!
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I have been looking at cstick as well, but the lack of information makes me consider it a dead project.
I have ordered a Tizzbird N1, which is more focused on being a media player but will have Google Market (with custom firmware) and the possibility to run apps.
Code:
w w w.cnx-software.com/2012/03/08/valueplus-tizzbird-stick-n1-android-ics-hdmiusb-dongle-media-player/
They are claiming that they will start deliver in Sweden the 27th of August (postponed from 8th of August)
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That reminds me of the Raspberry Pi, might have to pick one of these up!
I have had a mk802 for a month or more. Its OK not great. Recently it doesn't want to grab wifi which makes it almost useless. Its laggy and for sale.
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i'm also using the mk802.. had it for about 2 weeks now. didn't do much with it other then install XBMC for android on it. and a few pluging to stream my movies and shows. it gets laggy at times
i'm also using the mk802. und Raspberry Pi
both with xbmc
The Raspberry is for Pro Users the MK802 run without knowledge.
WOW
I think that is really really cool. i could make my desktop and laptop pc an android and get rid of everything windows... hmmmm
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another thing, I have a XBMC on my original xbox, so your saying i could hook it up to that and browse internet thru the TV? i am sure i could do it with the 360 i have as well..
Quite slick. I found this one on Amazon; definitely added to my wishlist to go with a shiny new HDTV for my living room.
I'm also considering to buy one, but don't you think it can very easily overheat?

NEXUS 9 RAM UPGRADE 16Gb (2GB) to 32Gb (4GB)!!

COMMUNITY IS ALL ABOUT SHARING, AND I HAVE SOME GREAT NEWS TO SHARE WITH MY FRIENDS HERE ON XDA!!​
I've have a 32GB Nexus 9 LTE for almost 2 years now, and she's been great, but, as most folks here will understand, I WANTED MORE RAM!! I picked up a Pixel C a month ago, and decided it was time to give the RAM upgrade a shot. Since I have the Pixel, if the worst happened during the upgrade attempt it wouldn't be the end of the world.
WELL, IT WORKED!!
I am working on a video tutorial, but wanted to share the good news with everyone!!
While I wouldn't describe my N9 as "laggy", it most definitely had it's bottleneck issues, especially on RAM intensive tasks like Chrome w/ multiple tabs open. Luckily, the LPDDR3 module is not stacked on the SoC in a SoP configuration . . THANK GOD TOO!! Because 2GB of RAM on a CPU this beastly is like putting a 100mph governor on an Indy Car. It took me a while, but I was FINALLY able to snag a 32Gb (514Mb x x64) single module (That's 4GB BTW). It's not that I couldn't find the right module; what held me back was waiting for Samsung to release the single module 64Gb (8GB) 253-Ball VFBGA LPDDR3. The Tegra K1 supports up to 8GB of LPDDR3 or DDR3L, but since the Nexus 9's board is built with support for a single VFBGA RAM module, you only have support for one. I got impatient and went with a 4GB module. The module is 1866MHz, but it runs at 1600MHz, so I don't think the K1 supports higher than 1600MHz (800MHz x 2), but I could be wrong. I didn't wanna push my luck with such an invasive upgrade, so I didn't look into pushing it to its rated 1866MHz. Besides, the stock module is 1600MHz anyway, and that's plenty fast for what I'm using my N9 for. I know it supports DDR3L, but I didn't wanna create compatibility insanity, so I played it safe, sticking with the exact same module brand (Elpida/Micron), type (LPDDR3), speed (800MHz x 2), and package size (VFBGA 253-Ball), but with a higher density (512Mb x x64 = 32Gb, or, 4GB). After removing the stock module, and careful placement and reflow, I was kinda surprised when I turned it on and it just worked. Not that I expected a problem, but y'all know how it goes. :fingers-crossed:
Props to Nvidia for an extremely flexible SoC. :good:
*(I will put the module details below if anyone wants to do what I did and upgrade their N9's RAM)*
After the upgrade, I decided to address the Tegra's heat issues. Long ago, I deduced that the cooling solution was lacking, if even there at all. So while I had her opened up, I spread some MX-4 between the SoC and an extremely thin copper square which acts as a heat-sink. Then I used a teeny-tiny vapor chamber heat pipe that was originally attached to a VRM cooler on a busted SuperMicro server board. After welding the heat pipe onto the copper plate, I cut out a small hole in the back cover and connected the condensing side of the heat pipe to a small, flat flat-finned VRM heat-sink. The heat pipe is obnoxiously long, so I had to get kinda creative with the spacing. I did consider using a teeny-tiny fan, but that seemed like overkill lol, not to mention the reduction in battery life. I made a small vented cover, but there is a noticeable bump on the rear cover, but with my case on it, and the fact that it's almost always on a stand, it hasn't been an issue.
Now, with a REAL cooling solution in place, I was able to use flar2's overclocking options on his kernel via his EX Kernel Manager app. With the CPU at 2.5GHz (up from 2.3GHz stock), and the GPU at 984MHz (up from 852MHz stock), along with several other tweaks, she has been AMAZING ever since, with zero lag, zero random reboots, etc. With fsync disabled, I consistently score between 120,000 and 130,000 on Antutu, depending on governor settings. I couldn't really push her prior to the cooling solution without some major throttling, but those days are OVER!! I don't know why Google/HTC didn't at least use SOMETHING as a cooling solution. Even a small thermal dissipation pad and a little piece of vented copper would've been more than enough to keep the throttling at bay. Not Nvidia's fault, I'm assuming their specs call for a specific Tcase for proper functionality, and I guess they didn't push her all that hard in the testing phase.
I'm working on a video tutorial & step by step guide for the RAM upgrade and the cooling solution, so if that's something you'd wanna do to your N9 (and if you're good with micro repair, I absolutely think you should do it!), I should have it up on the N9 forum by mid-week.
* The module I replaced the stock 16Gb (2GB) with is made by Micron/Elpida. The product number is:
- MT52L512M64D4PQ-107 WT -
There is another module with a VERY SIMILAR product number, with the same specs, but different BGA mounting & ball count: MT52L512M64D4GN-107 WT. I actually made this mistake and assumed the module was VFBGA, but it's actually WFVGA (256-Ball), and the voltage loop-back logic pads are NOT compatible with the N9's VFBGA module pads. Just stay away from any module that ends in 'GN' and you'll be alright.
I'm highly anticipating your video and this is absolutely fantastic news! I have 2 questions for you however since I'll be a little new on this installation:
1. Was the RAM module that was made from Samsung released? If yes is there a way to order it? I highly believe that with 8gb of LPDDR3 this tablet has a huge potential for future proofing and will eliminate the need to buy a tablet for a long long time.
2. Are there any specific tools or equipment I need to buy in order to follow your installation?
I'm highly looking forward to your reply and thank you so much for the upcoming guide.
Following....
Looking forward for that video.
I'm quite excited!!
4/8G on a tablet!!!
When is that 8G chip coming out?
https://www.avnet.com/shop/us/p/mt5...5626301278?CMP=EMA_Octopart_inventoryfeed_VSE right? Where did you get yours ?
I seriously doubt that 8gb would bring anything more comparing with 4gb. I think the main bottleneck is cpu architecture. It's very strange that 2 strong cores stutter more than some 8 core cpus. Nvidia doesn't have as large experience with cpus and has made mistakes, while it has largest exps with gpu.
Firstly, let me say, well done. :highfive:
Someone had to do it and you were brave enough to put your money on the line. Respect.
Any idea how you upgrade performs compared to a standard Nexus 9? It would be cool if you could get another and do a side by side test.
A part of me wishes you could have just upgraded the RAM and compared to a standard Nexus 9 as we will never know which of your upgrades has the biggest effect.
Just wanted to give everyone a quick update.
Work has been sucking up all of my time, but I have the day off tomorrow so I should be able to get the guide/tutorial up by the end of the weekend.
She's still running wonderfully, however I did decide to go the itty-bitty fan route just to see if there was a difference, and sure enough, I got my idle temp hovering around 30C - 35C, so I may add a step for an optional fan installation. I found a super slim battery pack and a 5V Raspberry Pi fan and it worked like a charm. I just need to figure out a way to tidy up the wiring.
Anyhoo, happy Saturday, and stay tuned!
Can we order these from somewhere? Everywhere i looked have zero in stock.
Looking forward for the video tutorial. While I do not have a tablet replacement for mine, I will still do this!
The thing I'm most worried about is flashing the firmware back to the new chip.
Things I think I'll need .
#1 A tool that can read and write to the chip so we can backup or restore.(those tools cost like 100$+)
#2 soldering iron or something to detach and reattach the chip.
PS. I'm really looking for that 8G ram chip.
I will need to compile a new kernel to support more than 4G but that's no problem.
This memory eMMC NAND Flash chip KLMCG8GEAC-B001-BGA-64GB seems to be similar to ours. Just curious will this one fits? :fingers-crossed:
Maybe Need4Sneed broke his tablet.
Marky__Mark said:
Maybe Need4Sneed broke his tablet.
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Maybe...
Marky__Mark said:
Maybe Need4Sneed broke his tablet.
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Or maybe he doesn't have the time to make the video yet because he's busy with life. Let's wait and see. I'm optimistic nonetheless because in the case that happens he could have said it earlier and this thread would have been closed .
ElementalXY said:
Or maybe he doesn't have the time to make the video yet because he's busy with life. Let's wait and see. I'm optimistic nonetheless because in the case that happens he could have said it earlier and this thread would have been closed .
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Maybe, maybe not. Im interested in this too, but Ill believe it when I see it.
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Maybe, maybe not. Im interested in this too, but Ill believe it when I see it.
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I'm with you 100% on that . Let's assume the best in either case scenario.
It seems that it is not as easy as the author tells us.
And I doubt that he has something that works, or he did at least what he writes about.
Vartom said:
It seems that it is not as easy as the author tells us.
And I doubt that he has something that works, or he did at least what he writes about.
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He probably broke his tablet installing that fan and who knows what else.
But it would a dream, upgrading this tablet to 4g ram and 64 gb storage,.. Too good to be true...
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At the very least, this guy can at least tell us where he got his.
@Need4Sneed
Are things ok?

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