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Hi guys!
For this test I used a set of keys and a cutter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhoF564nJ_Q
I hope you will like it
Cool. Was this a test device or your own?
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Awesome, thanks so much!
I posted one a bit ago but that was with some knives....the box cutter is impressive.
I am more worried about the small pieces of sand, I think that is what scratches the glass more......But, this video has me almost convinced that I do not need a screen protector.
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"Cool. Was this a test device or your own?"
Wow, this just proves that all the other people complaining about scratches just don't take care of their phones.
Super high, unrealistic drop test now? ;D
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Super high, unrealistic drop test now? ;D
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The screens smash pretty easily I think.....
I saw a video posted a week ago or so and waist high on the sidewalk smashed the screen.....
Confirmed my feelings about the screen. When i got the phone it just felt like it could withsand some abuse. Wouldnt go so far to try this myself.
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The screens smash pretty easily I think.....
I saw a video posted a week ago or so and waist high on the sidewalk smashed the screen.....
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Yes, the screen is more sensitive to strong falls than to scratches but as you can see it resisted the sharp cutter
It's advertised as scratch proof, not as shatter proof. Keep that in mind
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member68 said:
It's advertised as scratch proof, not as shatter proof. Keep that in mind
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It's not advertised as either. It's scratch resistant.
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It certainly is scratch proof but as my device shows that actually the glass is very brittle! My screen cracked in my pocket! without me doing anything!
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well a material can only be exceptionally flexible(ductile) or hard(strong), but never both. if you want a material to be more shatter resistant(ductile), then it'll be softer and less scratch resistant. Conversely a harder material will be more scratch resistant but more brittle and prone to shatter. its always a tradeoff between these two physical qualities.
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It certainly is scratch proof but as my device shows that actually the glass is very brittle! My screen cracked in my pocket! without me doing anything!
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Your problem occurred from a defect in the glass manufacturing process. I don't think that is a standard.
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MiG123 said:
well a material can only be exceptionally flexible(ductile) or hard(strong), but never both. if you want a material to be more shatter resistant(ductile), then it'll be softer and less scratch resistant. Conversely a harder material will be more scratch resistant but more brittle and prone to shatter. its always a tradeoff between these two physical qualities.
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Although this is true in some cases it is not in all. Thanks to chemist and material scientist, treating or chemically finishing materials could give the best of both worlds. Go watch the gorilla glass test on YouTube, it is more scratch resistant than its competitors and almost twice as flexible.
Gorilla Glass has a lot to do with its surface finish as well as the glass itself.
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Your problem occurred from a defect in the glass manufacturing process. I don't think that is a standard.
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That is exactly my theory but as far as Samsung or any one else is concerned it is accidental damage and no one is willing to believe me i didn't do it!
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Jed Dignazio said:
Gorrilla or not, Its still glass!!!
Bottom line is anything harder than Gorilla glass which has a hardness between 8+9 will scratch the surface.
Iron, steel, nickel, lead, gold, silver or any medal are softer than gorilla glass, so they should not scratch the glass.
On the other hand, sand contains quartz and it could scratch gorilla glass, for example when sand is in your pockets (after a walk on the beach).
One more thing:
a common misconception is: 'make something sharp and it will scratch'. it's wrong. you can make your fingernail or your key as sharp as possible, it is still softer than the glass and it will not scratch.
So, no, keys wont scratch it (steel), but anything harder than 8 on the scale will with no problem. So anybody that has no scratches obviously hasnt made contact to the screen with anything harder than a 8 on this scale.
Hardness Substance or mineral
0.2–0.3 caesium, rubidium
0.5–0.6 lithium, sodium, potassium
1 talc
1.5 gallium, strontium, indium, tin, barium, thallium, lead, graphite
2 hexagonal boron nitride,[10] calcium, selenium, cadmium, sulfur, tellurium, bismuth
2.5 to 3 magnesium, gold, silver, aluminium, zinc, lanthanum, cerium, Jet_(lignite) (lignite)
3 calcite, copper, arsenic, antimony, thorium, dentin
4 fluorite, iron, nickel
4 to 4.5 platinum, steel
5 apatite, cobalt, zirconium, palladium, tooth enamel, obsidian (volcanic glass)
5.5 beryllium, molybdenum, hafnium
6 orthoclase, titanium, manganese, germanium, niobium, rhodium, uranium
6 to 7 glass, fused quartz, iron pyrite, silicon, ruthenium, iridium, tantalum, opal
7 quartz, vanadium, osmium, rhenium
7.5 to 8 hardened steel, tungsten, emerald, spinel
8 topaz, cubic zirconia
8.5 chrysoberyl, chromium, silicon nitride
9-9.5 corundum, silicon carbide (carborundum), tungsten carbide, titanium carbide, stishovite
9.5–10 rhenium diboride, tantalum carbide, titanium diboride, boron nitride, boron [11][12][13]
10 diamond
>10 nanocrystalline diamond (hyperdiamond, ultrahard fullerite)
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Not very relevant at all. ALthough what you say is true, it is not the hardness of Gorilla Glass that lets it perform the way it does, it's the way it is chemically treated that allows it to resist scratches.
You are just talking about a mechanical property but not taking in mind the material process. Yes those materials will eventually scratch the glass (common sense), but whatever the coating on the glass is has to wear off first.
Chemical treatments. There's definitely a lot more to it, I would have to read more extensive datasheets, but here are some.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/GG2%20PI%20Sheet%20Rev%20b_050912.pdf
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2 is an environmentally friendly alkalialuminosilicate thin sheet glass that is better able to survive the real world events that most commonly cause glass failure. Its superior
composition allows a deeper layer of chemical strengthening than is
possible with most other chemically strengthened glasses — making it
both durable and damage resistant.
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gorilla glass is almost as hard as diamond
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So, I have been using a screen protector since I bought my S2 for a few days. Yesterday when I was drunk, I realized there are some scratches on it, so I decided to peel if off, thinking having another protector later. And to my surprise, my screen became freaking shiny and colorful and beautiful like a stone turning into a diamond. Now Im feeling like a retard, because that lame protector (in fact it's an expensive one), I suffered from an ugly change of screen color of my S2. I am sure I will never get another screen protector, this screen is too beautiful and it deserves to be seen.
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Screen protector is a stupid idea anyway. Anything that can scratch a gorilla glass will easily go through a flimsy screen "protector" and scratch the glass anyway.
Im using a Zagg Invisible shield, purely through habit as I've had one on all my phones and comparing it to my GFs S2 (with no screen protector at all) there is absolutely no difference, but to each his own
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Very true with out screen guard it looks awesome.
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That depends what screen protector you're using. The matte and the cheap screen protectors are not shiny and look dull, but if you get a good quality screen protector, you won't even notice the difference. Everyone SHOULD have a good quality screen protector because it protects the phone from scratches.
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That depends what screen protector you're using. The matte and the cheap screen protectors are not shiny and look dull, but if you get a good quality screen protector, you won't even notice the difference. Everyone SHOULD have a good quality screen protector because it protects the phone from scratches.
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This kinda right.
I used a costly PS and still notice a little difference in the vividness of color and obviously the touch response is much more different, i mean more prominent. Using it without a PS for a month now and no, I am not applying a PS again.
My scr protector was an expensive one, it doesnt change the touch sensitivity but for God's sake the color is aweful...
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randomseasons said:
So, I have been using a screen protector since I bought my S2 for a few days. Yesterday when I was drunk, I realized there are some scratches on it, so I decided to peel if off, thinking having another protector later. And to my surprise, my screen became freaking shiny and colorful and beautiful like a stone turning into a diamond. Now Im feeling like a retard, because that lame protector (in fact it's an expensive one), I suffered from an ugly change of screen color of my S2. I am sure I will never get another screen protector, this screen is too beautiful and it deserves to be seen.
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next scrachs gonna be on the screen it self
now that more annoying then less clearty
aydc said:
Screen protector is a stupid idea anyway. Anything that can scratch a gorilla glass will easily go through a flimsy screen "protector" and scratch the glass anyway.
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tell that to my car then. Dropped my phone without a protector and got a small chip/ scratch. Put on a screen protector and it hides the damage. Dropped phone many times since with no further damage....
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aydc said:
Screen protector is a stupid idea anyway. Anything that can scratch a gorilla glass will easily go through a flimsy screen "protector" and scratch the glass anyway.
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Wow...I hope this is sarcasm.
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Wow...I hope this is sarcasm.
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Nope, it's pure logic. You can't scratch gorilla glass. You can only scratch the oleophobic cover on top. If your phones comes across something so strong that even gorilla glass will be scratched, a flimsy screen protector won't be any help.
Ive had a screen protector and all the phones ive owned, and yes you see a difference in the display but i can live with that! and what plank said if you scratch a screen protector it'll go through lol if thats the case then i wouldnt use a screen protector in the 1st place my phone is always in and out of my pocket and most the times its my keys or coins that scratch but underneath my protector the screen has NOTa single mark/scratch and ive gone through loads of protectors since i had my GS2..
Conclusion: i would highly recommend a screen protector ! ChEAp and keeps the gorilla glass free of any scratches!
The end!
Bye
I don't use a screen protector, but can see 2 scenarios where my screen can be scratched.
1. The beach with sand... Solution is to get a waterproof case/bag and have some fun too
2. letting my gf or any woman with diamond earrings to talk on the phone... Solution don't let then use my phone!!
Other than that, I even demoed to my friends the key scratch test on my screen frequently. Someone asked what would I do if a drop of super glue lands on my phone... My answer... Use a razor edge and scratch it off!
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No problems here
Been using my S2 phone since it came out. No screen protection at all. No scratches of any description apparent. My screen is still 100% perfect.
Alan
aydc said:
Nope, it's pure logic. You can't scratch gorilla glass. You can only scratch the oleophobic cover on top. If your phones comes across something so strong that even gorilla glass will be scratched, a flimsy screen protector won't be any help.
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Flawed logic. Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof. To scratch it, you need to use something harder than the glass. Metal is softer, so your keys are not going to do harm to the glass, it might scratch the coating only. However, sand is just as hard as glass if not harder. That will scratch through the coating and the glass in one go. Unfortunately, sand is everywhere.
If you want the screen to look good then don't use a matte screen :O
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Rather have the piece of mind knowing that with a screen protector, even if it doesn't protect it that much.. it still gives some protection. Same goes for cases why have use some cases when "some" add very little protection and mostly for looks.
The fist thing to do when i get a friend's phone in my hands is to peal off the protector and pretend it was by mistake
Screenprotectors only effective by blackberry. Since gs2 has gorilla glass..
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domingoo said:
Screenprotectors only effective by blackberry. Since gs2 has gorilla glass..
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Actually no. Gorilla glass isn't completely unbreakable or invincible to scratches, just harder to. You will get some hairline scratches but with a screen protector you won't
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I dropped my Note2 on asphalt today and even though it had a anti scratch prorection on, the front glass broke! This sux. I thouught it would tolerate more beating then a single fall.
Now I have to pay 150$+ to fix ir!
Gorilla Glass isn't drop proof. It still breaks man
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gorilla glass isn't shatterproof. It's resistant to perpendicular impacts, but hit it along the edge and it cracks like an eggshell.
What the f is scratch prorection?
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Next time use a case
Yeah the glass does break but even the 'gorilla glass is scratchproof' argument is bull****, put your phone within one mile of a grain of sand and the screen will scratch very easily!
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It's gorila glass not bulletproof glass.
I must confirm - gorilla glass on note 2 sucks
So,
I must confirmed that Gorilla glass on my Note 2, have scratches.
what is sad here ? I WATCH FOR MY PHONE VERY CAREFULLY.
nOT even once ( or maybe once or twice ) it was in my pocket with other stuffs like coins or keys. ž
I took out my folie, because I've burned it with cigarete, and I did't like it. So my phone was about three, or four weeks without screenprotector.
YET, I found little scratches on it.
CONFUSED .
I watched some movies on you tube, with Note 2, and S3, the guy was simultainesly hit screens of two devices WITH VERY BIG KNIFE.
Non scratches was found.
I cary the phone for three weeks, 2,3 hours per day, in emty pocket and YET GET SCRATCHES !!!
if this is gorilla glass, I'm a monkey
Dirt and sand in your pocket can scratch the glass. The glass is scratch resistant NOT scratch proof. Any glass will scratch under certain situations
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NightHawkUndead said:
Dirt and sand in your pocket can scratch the glass. The glass is scratch resistant NOT scratch proof. Any glass will scratch under certain situations
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IS THAT SO ?
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It's not scratches from sand for sure. ...
THE MAIN POINT IS....GORILLA GLASS DOESN'T DO THE JOB.
or it does in some cheap way.... Let's be honest
People forgot the word "glass" in gorilla glass.
Glass break, gorilla glass makes it harder to break, but still breaks.
FinancialWar said:
People forgot the word "glass" in gorilla glass.
Glass break, gorilla glass makes it harder to break, but still breaks.
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sorry Dude, but Note 2, have tinner glass.....Obviously it is A NOT GOOD PRODUCT.
I hate the most when someone have answers like yours . READ WHAT I WROTE !
three weeks in almost always emty pocket !
SCRATCHES !
I don't have a single scratch on my Note 2 after using it for 6 months. So I don't what you're talking about.
scratch resistant doesn't mean drop-on-the-floor-proof
toofank said:
I dropped my Note2 on asphalt today and even though it had a anti scratch prorection on, the front glass broke! This sux. I thouught it would tolerate more beating then a single fall.
Now I have to pay 150$+ to fix ir!
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if you the lcd and digitiser still function you can replace the top glass for just ~$20. You dont have to replace the entire assembly. Check this video out to know what i am talking about.
http://youtu.be/NtaBVQSA6sM
hope this helps
Let's see, even if english is not my mother tongue, I know the difference between SCRATCH and HIT.
As they told you, gorilla glass is SCRATCH resistant, so if it falls it has nothing to do, the difference is that is harder (not impossible) to get scratches with the normal use than other screens without it, and I can ASSURE you that it does its work.
I have some thin scratches at my screen after using the phone carefully for two months. Very disappointed.
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I have some thin scratches at my screen after using the phone carefully for two months. Very disappointed.
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I only have one and i did it working and is very very small, I can see only with sunlight.
My phone has 10 months and i never used screen protector
badanas said:
I only have one and i did it working and is very very small, I can see only with sunlight.
My phone has 10 months and i never used screen protector
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Personally I think this Gorilla glass ( on this phone I can judge only ) have weeker products and better products on Note 2.
Someone have hardener, and someone softener glass on his phone. I think this various from phone unit to phone unit.
When I saw this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFdJOBOI3lY
I was thinking there is no way to scratch it with carefull use. And after just three weeks of very, very carefully use, BUM...scratches...
FinancialWar said:
I don't have a single scratch on my Note 2 after using it for 6 months. So I don't what you're talking about.
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One of my friends thought like you. I took his note 2 and show him the scratches. He has a lot of little one.
To see it you have to look at a white screen, little "rainbows" appear.
Not a big deal but still scratches.
I have bought phone 3 months ago. IT felt on the street once - like a meter high from my hand. I got a break glass on the front in the corner. Everyhting is working - just a small crack. But the back is in one piece. That's is why I want to ask you - Nexus 4 owners - how to check if my phone have the Gorilla Glass 2 on the front?
I have checked the box, and quick start guide - no information about it. Also warranty does not have that information ?
Gorilla Street 3 breaks Gorilla Glass 2
Gorilla glass doesn't advertise shatter proof. Neither does gorilla glass 3 and 4 probably won't either. They advertise SCRATCH RESISTANCE. So if you drop your phone thinking it won't break because of gorilla glass, think again.
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Its more like gorilla @ss...
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Well the scratch resistance sucks also. :thumbdown:
gorrilla glass is present on both sides.BUT the glass on the front is thin that the fact being gorilla glass dosent help.
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gorrilla glass is present on both sides.BUT the glass on the front is thin that the fact being gorilla glass dosent help.
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Back isn't gorilla glass. And gorilla glass just promises a tough, scratch resistant glass, not an unbreakable/shatter-proof glass.
PJcastaldo said:
Well the scratch resistance sucks also. :thumbdown:
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Please explain how regular glass is any better??
Get rid of your N4 if it sucks so bad.
I carry my keys and phone in the same pocket and yet to have any noticeable scratches that are viewable with the naked eye.
Anyone else saying it sucks, go purchase a regular phone without gorilla glass and see how long it'll last.
Obvious trolls have nothing better to do on the net then complain about everything.
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Bla bla blah, my phone is 1 year old and still in mint condition without any screen protector also the back still clear without any scratch
sandy-achar said:
Back isn't gorilla glass. And gorilla glass just promises a tough, scratch resistant glass, not an unbreakable/shatter-proof glass.
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so how the back hold scratches way better then normal glass?
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Please explain how regular glass is any better??
Get rid of your N4 if it sucks so bad.
I carry my keys and phone in the same pocket and yet to have any noticeable scratches that are viewable with the naked eye.
Anyone else saying it sucks, go purchase a regular phone without gorilla glass and see how long it'll last.
Obvious trolls have nothing better to do on the net then complain about everything.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. No one is trolling .. my screen is littered with scratches. No one is arguing or making any kind of insinuations that the N4 sucks.. but that many people have not had "good' experiences with Gorilla Glass.
Take your shatty internet tough guy attitude else where ...
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. No one is trolling .. my screen is littered with scratches. No one is arguing or making any kind of insinuations that the N4 sucks.. but that many people have not had "good' experiences with Gorilla Glass.
Take your shatty internet tough guy attitude else where ...
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Coming from the guy telling everyone has an extreme "placebo effect contagion" over ART because according to you its nothing more than a switch on android.
Like I said trolling is easy to spot. Specially when the majority of the post are nothing but complaining.
I'm doing feeding you.
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I'm a carpenter so my phone is exposed to dust and random debris in my pocket. I use a simple no name flipcover and I must say thus far its the most resisting phone I owned. Not a single scratch or dent.
To repeat it again. Every glass will break eventually but not every glass will scratch.
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Haha. I really wasn't trying to troll on art.. I stand behind its an unfinished runtime environment that is not giving everyone the result that they think they're getting but that's for another time and a different discussion.. and also I have NOT gone around saying it either.. i posted in one thread.. my opinion on a topic.. it's not my fault you guys let such little things bother your little brains.
You guys just get so butt hurt when someone disagrees with your my phone is so amazing and has no fault ideals.
My screen is scratched all over. From literally pocket use I guess... I use a screen protector to hide them now cause its very annoying to look at. I never dropped it or anything like that..
I have a small crack around my speaker on the back also.. pressure I assume. ...
All I'm saying is Gorilla Glass isn't all that its cracked up to be..
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Why doesn't anyone make a tempered glass protector for the rear of the phone just like they have for the front?? I love using my phone naked but I hate to scratch the back. I have tried clear skins but the feeling of plastic isn't one I want on my brand new phone
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brandoncheney05 said:
Why doesn't anyone make a tempered glass protector for the rear of the phone just like they have for the front?? I love using my phone naked but I hate to scratch the back. I have tried clear skins but the feeling of plastic isn't one I want on my brand new phone
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First guess? It's hard to make one that looks good considering the curved edges of the back.
I'm not sure whether the back peice is tempered glass as it doesnt make it abundantly clear but is something Like this what your looking for?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N4WLIG3/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_6Hhdzb90P5R0D
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I'm not sure whether the back peice is tempered glass as it doesnt make it abundantly clear but is something Like this what your looking for?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N4WLIG3/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_6Hhdzb90P5R0D
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That includes a carbon fiber back sticker. Not back Tempered Glass.
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First guess? It's hard to make one that looks good considering the curved edges of the back.
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I had tempered glass on my S7 Edge so it's definitely possible as that curves way more
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Barsky said:
That includes a carbon fiber back sticker. Not back Tempered Glass.
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Yeah I saw that but like he said it's carbon fiber I want something I can enjoy looks and feel of naked device
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brandoncheney05 said:
Yeah I saw that but like he said it's carbon fiber I want something I can enjoy looks and feel of naked device
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I am considering a clear skin for when I take it out of the case. I usually do this. Sometimes I like to enjoy the feel of the phone with the bulk of the case.
Not tempered glass, but it's something, https://www.armorsuit.com/collections/lg-g6/products/lg-g6-full-body-skin-protector
Devilcase tends to make them for xperias with their flatbacks. Maybe someone fluent in there language can ask
brandoncheney05 said:
Why doesn't anyone make a tempered glass protector for the rear of the phone just like they have for the front?? I love using my phone naked but I hate to scratch the back. I have tried clear skins but the feeling of plastic isn't one I want on my brand new phone
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I didn't even know there was tempered glass on the back. I realized it on the first day when I dropped my phone and the back of the tempered glass was broken. Will this affect water proofing?
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anilhk said:
I didn't even know there was tempered glass on the back. I realized it on the first day when I dropped my phone and the back of the tempered glass was broken. Will this affect water proofing?
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The back is Gorilla Glass 5.
The front is Gorilla Glass 3. (Why not 5???)
Barsky said:
The front is Gorilla Glass 3. (Why not 5???)
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Allegedly GG3 is more scratch resistant than GG5, but GG5 is a lot better at protecting from impact.
DVC1985 said:
Allegedly GG3 is more scratch resistant than GG5, but GG5 is a lot better at protecting from impact.
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I see.
thanks
DVC1985 said:
Allegedly GG3 is more scratch resistant than GG5, but GG5 is a lot better at protecting from impact.
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It's also thinner, keeping the G6 slim ?