I'm not much into over clocking or under volting and all that stuff, I just want a smooth kernel, without connection issues, and bug free as possible.
I only usually change I/O and governor's, which is already available on my current kernel and ROM so that's fine.
Any suggestions?
Oh, and works with AOKP
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There is no "best kernel", its not a competition. Search in the Development Thread and try them out. Then choose what suits you best in terms of performance/battery.
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There is no "best kernel", its not a competition. Search in the Development Thread and try them out. Then choose what suits you best in terms of performance/battery.
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OK, you obviously took my question out of context, let alone did you even read my question? I did search in the development thread, or else I wouldn't post this question. Out of other peoples user experience, I want to know what kernel was best for them, excluding the over clocking and undervolting features. And BTW, I'm not looking for battery specs as every user is different.
What kernel are you using at the moment? And why is it the best for you?
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OK, you obviously took my question out of context, let alone did you even read my question? I did search in the development thread, or else I wouldn't post this question. Out of other peoples user experience, I want to know what kernel was best for them, excluding the over clocking and undervolting features. And BTW, I'm not looking for battery specs as every user is different.
What kernel are you using at the moment? And why is it the best for you?
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Oh sorry then I must've misunderstood it.
I am using Francos r51 kernel. Because.. eeerm .. the batterylife is just amazing without sacrificing performance.
These "Best kernel" threads usually get closed. Just giving you fair warning. I'm using Harsh kernel. It's great.
*obligatory there is no best kernel statement*
For 'normal' users I would recommend intersectRaven's kernel. Requires almost no user intervention - you can of course change governor and I/O scheduler - and is easily as fast as stock in performance but with much better batter.
All my opinion of course, yours may differ.
Currently I'm running AOKP with faux which is giving me the best battery life I've ever had. About 5-6 hours of screen on time!
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4 different answers, 4 different kernels
All of them....
try the motley kernel. its rock solid with great performance and battery life without messing with any settings
Whatever works best for you and you can only tell by trying them all.
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My vote is on faux.
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If you're a normal user, then why do something abnormal by flashing a custom kernel? There's always a trade-off. You might gain a bit of battery life, but you're more than likely to gain a bit of quirkiness. Furthermore, some kernels like Faux's overwrite system files, whereas other kernels like Franco's use a different ramdisk. This may cause problems if you subsequently flash a kernel that replaces only the zImage (kernel) and which assumes that the ramdisk is stock.
there is no best kernel , all of those are good
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If you're a normal user, then why do something abnormal by flashing a custom kernel? There's always a trade-off. You might gain a bit of battery life, but you're more than likely to gain a bit of quirkiness. Furthermore, some kernels like Faux's overwrite system files, whereas other kernels like Franco's use a different ramdisk. This may cause problems if you subsequently flash a kernel that replaces only the zImage (kernel) and which assumes that the ramdisk is stock.
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That's like saying "if your a normal user, why do something abnormal such as flashing a custom ROM?"
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That's like saying "if your a normal user, why do something abnormal such as flashing a custom ROM?"
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
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I like this topic, I was actually looking for it.
I'm not an advanced user, I learnt pretty well how certain things about android work (i.e. I've used custom roms since I first started using a smartphone) but I know little to nothing about other stuff, like custom kernels.
Now... let's say that I'm not comfortable messing around too much with aspects of the kernel that I don't fully understand...
- Would you suggest a reasonably simple custom kernel that you believe is better then stock even if you don't mess around with it very much? (to me, and I believe according to iAndropple too, this is not a topic about "the best kernel")
- Would you suggest to stick with stock?
- Should I search for guides on YT or on the Internet so that I can have a better comprehension of how a kernel works, what is relatively safe to tweak and what is not?
That's like saying "if your a normal user, why do something abnormal such as flashing a custom ROM?"
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I tend to agree with this statement, one has to try and learn, but maybe floepie is right, using a custom kernel is not the same as using a custom rom, and could be dangerous.
I know noobs like myself can be annoying, but I'm just seeking for advice and trying to learn new things here, any answer is welcome.
Thanks for the responses guys, and I'm just getting used to custom kernels, so I just want a low user based kernel, so I can learn my ways from there. I LEARNED how to flash ROMS and ADB stuff, but I didn't learn custom kernels "yet" to a full extent.
Hope you guys get what I'm saying
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[KERNEL][UV][Linux 3.4.26] Harsh Kernel build Jan-22 - PGM
as describe by the dev himself " I am just sharing what I have made for myself as my daily driver." this is the best kernel imho. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048739, i have tried motley's, franco's but still the best kernel for me is Harsh's.
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What will a custom kernel do for me. I have been thinking about rooting but I do not want to flash a ROM. I am really loving stock. How will a kernel benefit me. I heard they have something to do with battery. How is that?
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With a custom kernel you can do some really cool tinkering for example
- underclock (save battery)
-undervolt ( MAY save battery , but will def help with heat)
- change governor ( may help battery)
- change screen properties . I.e colours
- GPU over clock / under clock ( obvious)
Other cool performance tweaks as well
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italia0101 said:
With a custom kernel you can do some really cool tinkering for example
- underclock (save battery)
-undervolt ( MAY save battery , but will def help with heat)
- change governor ( may help battery)
- change screen properties . I.e colours
- GPU over clock / under clock ( obvious)
Other cool performance tweaks as well
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Thank you. Sounds pretty helpful for battery. Do you recommend any kernels?
Ballastatuz said:
Thank you. Sounds pretty helpful for battery. Do you recommend any kernels?
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I'd go with franco's kernel for now.
All of them are new and may have bugs, but franco is a longtime kernel developer and he's the least likely to do stupid stuff or claim features that actually hurt performance or are just placebos.
Franco's kernels seem good. I use it on my N7, but I just wouldn't use it yet as he's working blind. Faux has some amazing battery saving kernels. Mathkid's kernels pretty well as well, I used to use his on the Nexus S back in the day.
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Ranguvar said:
I'd go with franco's kernel for now.
All of them are new and may have bugs, but franco is a longtime kernel developer and he's the least likely to do stupid stuff or claim features that actually hurt performance or are just placebos.
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I'd be careful about recommending a kernel where the developer is doing so blindly. Honestly its very irresponsible. Unless he's got a device that's 99.9% identical, i cant recommended it.
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italia0101 said:
With a custom kernel you can do some really cool tinkering for example
- underclock (save battery)
-undervolt ( MAY save battery , but will def help with heat)
- change governor ( may help battery)
- change screen properties . I.e colours
- GPU over clock / under clock ( obvious)
Other cool performance tweaks as well
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Under clock can be done on a stock kernel just needs root. Custom kernel allows over clock doubt its needed though CPU is fast enough.
Different governors can be used on stock too but custom kernels may offer extra ones like smartass etc.
They may also add things like NTFS cifs run etc not available in stock.
Using Motleys kernel just now too soon to comment on improvements.
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If stock is working for you, there's no reason to flash another, unless you have the itch.
The stock kernel is great, and undervolting is more trouble than it's worth if you're starting from scratch, unless tinkering with voltages is your thing, and there's zero need to overclock the N4 CPU or GPU IMO. There aren't a ton of options, yet, either. 3.4 is pretty young yet.
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I'd be careful about recommending a kernel where the developer is doing so blindly. Honestly its very irresponsible. Unless he's got a device that's 99.9% identical, i cant recommended it.
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As someone who is using Franco's kernel at the moment, I can recommend it strongly. It's running very well :good:
Ngo93 said:
As someone who is using Franco's kernel at the moment, I can recommend it strongly. It's running very well :good:
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Agree. Franco is amazing and once he actually has the device he will only improve.
Yeah -- that was my other experience, I'm using franco's kernel and have been since day one.
Quite stable at least so far, no crazy changes.
What is the best kernel overall?
The best kernel for battery improvement?
Best kernel for performance?
and the best kernel for gaming?
.....and GO!
Stock.
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Based on my experience. For overall excellent gaming performance with good enough battery performance, I suggest M-Kernel a25 or a27. And to over clock your device after installing the kernel, use Trickster Mod from play store.
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I'd like to recommend u to see the following thread.
[GUIDE] *NEW* 4.2.1 RESULTS! N7 'Best' Kernel? (Performance & Battery Tests)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31620793
theres no best kernel, they are all good. theres only whats best for your and your devices needs. evrybody is going to say that the best kernel is the one that they use, no one is going to say that they use the worst.
simms22 said:
theres no best kernel, they are all good. theres only whats best for your and your devices needs. evrybody is going to say that the best kernel is the one that they use, no one is going to say that they use the worst.
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Well I base it on most popular. If its popular it means its good and works most of the time. Maybe I should've used better wording?
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jesus359 said:
Well I base it on most popular. If its popular it means its good and works most of the time. Maybe I should've used better wording?
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popular doesnt mean good. try out a few, find what your device likes. every device is different and reacts differently with each kernel.
k1silver said:
I'd like to recommend u to see the following thread.
[GUIDE] *NEW* 4.2.1 RESULTS! N7 'Best' Kernel? (Performance & Battery Tests)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31620793
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Yes you can read there, OP just updated the score. If you want to try, try trinity for best performance, m kernel for best overall. I'm using Mkernel now, really good kernel. No problem so far.
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I get about 10-11ish hours "screen on" with light use on franco kernel #38
Motley kernel
i tried
Motley kernel,
Franco kernel
Trinity Kernel
Trinity is the fastest if you tweak it good..
but on the downside the most glitch..
but Morfic just released two updates in two days...
so theyre fixing it.
So im back with Trinity Kernel.
Its good..
and the only Kernel i find that you can change GPU speed, ofcourse Using
the glitchy Trinity Toolbox
I love Franco.Kernel R31. Battery life is great and performance is good as well. R38 is the newest and great, but I feel performance is a bit lacking on 38.
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Jomari29 said:
i tried
Motley kernel,
Franco kernel
Trinity Kernel
Trinity is the fastest if you tweak it good..
but on the downside the most glitch..
but Morfic just released two updates in two days...
so theyre fixing it.
So im back with Trinity Kernel.
Its good..
and the only Kernel i find that you can change GPU speed, ofcourse Using
the glitchy Trinity Toolbox
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Did he fix unplug usb otg reboot issue yet?
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Closed, try them and see
So I have a nexus 4 and I want to root it and put on a custom ROM and kernel but I want something that will look like stock but I can have things like pie and maybe halo. I wouldn't mind some speed and battery life improvements also. So I was wondering what should I get?
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best rom/kernel threads are not allowed on xda. there is no best rom/kernel, there is only whats best for YOU. you have to try them out, find out whats best for you and your device. all our devices react differently, and we all have differing needs. try them out, only then you will find out whats best for YOU.
There is only a couple mods that I want in my Rom
-Performance/Battery Tweaks
-Linaro (possibly, not quite sure of it's advantages)
- Extended Power menu (preferably with an option to boot into recovery on the main power menu)
-720p Recording (I can apply this mod myself if needd)
-No sound modifications (for instance the clicking/tapping difference in Purity ROM)
- Battery Tweals/Conservation
I was looking at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053133
Or pretty much just going back to stock, I am not familiar with Linaro at all, so any recommendations would be helpful. From what I have read, all it is is optimized libraries and code fixes, but since installing Purity ROM, my battery life seems horid. I am waiting for the battery life to die so I can recharge it to 100% before I make a judgement on that though.
Just flash and play. Only you can decide what is right for you. Please do not depend on us to choose.
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Just flash and play. Only you can decide what is right for you. Please do not depend on us to choose.
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This. Read and make your own decision.
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Read to compare features then try a few. Closed. We don't allow comparison threads
Hi guys, I've recently rooted my i9505, and after trying a few ROMs I've settled on BlackBox. I've never flashed a new kernel before, just stayed with whatever came with the rom, so would it make much difference if I did, and if so, what would people recommend and why?
Thanks in advance.
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No probably it won't matter much. Sure there can be a minor difference in your situation, but there is no better kernel.
Some kernels are better optimized than the Samsung stock kernel, but between custom kernels there is not much difference. If you don't understand what the difference is between each kernel, just stay with the one that comes with your rom.
Sound advice, thanks.
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no mean to offense anyone...
it is like buying something new to replace a good that you have already (and it is working).
you will have to go and check what custom kernels can give you, to see if it raises an eyebrow. from my experience, each kernel has its ups and downs (I did not find a perfect one). you have to try yourself. a kernel that was best for me might be bad for you, depending on what you expect and want.
there are LOTS of benefits a customer kernel can bring!
jamiethemac said:
Hi guys, I've recently rooted my i9505, and after trying a few ROMs I've settled on BlackBox. I've never flashed a new kernel before, just stayed with whatever came with the rom, so would it make much difference if I did, and if so, what would people recommend and why?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi mate !
The kernel for instance can offer much customization if you're already rooted and on a custom rom, you can change the amplification of the headphone and the speaker of your device, you can overclock / undervolt your device, you can change screen display settings, you can change the i/o scheduler to your personal liking ...etc and much more !
That's why users recommend it, because it can offer what stock kernel can't and won't offer you .
Nhariamine
Just in case anyone's interested, I flashed Adam kernel the other day and it didn't really work out. The phone became very juttery and laggy, and I the end I had to restore a nandroid. Glad I gave it a go though.
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