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I just read about the new android version possibly coming Autumn. Since Sony has been good to us do you think we'll get it?? Here is source MOD EDIT:adfoc.us links are not allowed on XDA
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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madman_amit said:
Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Just opening up discussion and sharing what I found. Sorry if I may seem ungrateful but I am very much content with se work thus far.
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LMFAO that's not even for phones, just tablets..Jellybean is nothing new
The whole will be 2.5 yrs old by the time its in wide distribution. Won't be a snowballs chance in hell...
Lets take this ...it was much easy for sony to update all xperia 2011 as at end of day all were running same core components ...sammy have fragmented hardware so would take considerable amount of time and money for each to make ...
2012 sony also doing same by sticking to novathor and same gpu so no problems for updates
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I think XPlay can handle as much as ICS. They wouldn't update their 2011 devices in 2013, maybe only Xperia S, P, U, sola (2012 Sony devices) etc. will get that new update.
I would not even hold your hopes up for official ICS.
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Sony has said that they don't particularly believe ICS will run as well as we want it to on their phones. Given that, and the fact that Jellybean will be advanced beyond ICS, as well as the fact that Jellybean has been said to be tablet-only, I don't think Android 5 will ever, ever see the light of day on the Xperia Play.
Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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I thought so, too.
@jdz7t8 and crono141
I think they mean that Android 5.0 will be primarily focused on features for Tablets. It will also come for Smartphones though because then it wouldn´t make any sense what they´ve done with Android 4.0 . Seriously, would be dumb to fragment Android even more from a app developer sight.
And Android 5.0 for our Xperia Play... Well, i doubt it will happen. Look at other smartphone devices. The Galaxy S didn´t get ICS because it got two majour updates (2.2 and 2.3) and it was two years old at the time when the update plan from Samsung was released which is very old for a smartphone (usually 1 year support). And it was successful! ICS is possible from a hardware perspective. The main reason is to prompt customers to buy a new smartphone. Other companies are even worse in this matter(Motorola, LG).
I mean Sony isn´t bad. They did it better with the 2011 Xperia Line. But they
want to sell their new phones. I would appreciate if they bring that update, but unless they announce anything in regards to that, i believe there isn´t any update for us.
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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beez1717 said:
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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....... GB w/ working games and touchpad not a good experience? or is Ics with few working games and no touchpad a even better experience?
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The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ime-pie-release-date-news-and-rumours-1091500
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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That's awesome. You should totally make a thread about it....
7TimesCursed said:
Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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i feel a hint of "sarcasm" in what you wrote!
LOL
The nexus S is unlikely to get the next major version so this thread serves no purpose but to disappoint many people.
lowtje said:
The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
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I'd love to see the responsiveness of wp7. I tried my friends Samsung Omnia phone with WP7 and I was impressed. It was so fast and smooth. However I wouldn't use WP7 because I can't mod it
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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Will do! :highfive:
Even if nexus s isn't supported it will be by the community here on xda plus I'm betting most of us are on two year contracts (well I am anyway) and waiting to upgrade to the newest nexus when it comes out (soon)
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Who knows?! A Nexus is a Nexus after all.
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I hope google to continue support future version of android for nexus s. Most new devices are dual core or quad cores, with > 1G ram.. I dont think the new androids should only target for a high ended hardware spec. The NS is still a good "low end" demo device.
Its not really a good low end device spec wise anymore either.
These mobile devices are on what I think Anand refers to as hyper Moore's law. Which basically means the improvements on the mobile SoC are taking place a really rapid rate at this time. The difference between what a current gen chip and a two year old chip can do is huge
We are just now approaching the point where the chips are truly getting really powerful and aren't going to need to be leapfrogged by the next chip 6 months down the road. Example is the s4 pro and the next gen arm15 cores. Those chips are so powerful that they will be able to cut it for years no problem. Just how desktops have been for a couple of years.
The verge has a little piece up now on a HTC device with a 5 inch 1080p 440ppi display
There is a big deal from the software. Running stock jelly bean on the Galaxy Nexus was faster than touchwiz from S3. Single core iPhone4 and Lumia is pretty smooth to me (for the most part), taking OS differences aside.
That HTC device has been known for a while, (thats what you get for reading the verge), but I'm more interested inthe Oppo Find 5. Although I have doubt the later will be cyanogenmod supported. As for HTC, 1080p with Sense is still Sense, and you lose your warrenty rooting it and time too. Otherwize I would like a 1080p device. Though the LG Optimus G has S4 Pro and 13mp camera matches the Oppo Find 5 so its less compelling now.
With that aside I wouldn't mind a non-oversized phone with Nexus freedom. I'm looking at the Blaze by T-Mobile just getting CM10, but doesn't look like its a popular phone among devs, being Qualcomm S3 and all. I'm looking at the S3 mini too, though the form factor is ideal, it looks like a lazy attempt for Samsung to milk off their S3 popularity, for its expected retail price I'd rather get a Galaxy Nexus.
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The HTC device has been rumored forever. There where not any demo's / announcements prior to it being shown yesterday in Japan.
Its kind of a lackluster though, 16gb, non-removable battery, 8mp, no-microsd, and as I mentioned, Sense, process of unlocking and rooting...
Aside from the 1080p, I think phones like the Note2 and Optimus G has more features to offer. I'm still waiting to see a press release of the Oppo phone to see if all the specs are true though. Again, I'm bias.
Hopefully the multiple nexus rumours are true and the HTC one is built with the j butterfly blueprint. Stock android on that would be freaking awesome. I am doubtful though.
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If we don't get a new version, I think we'll get a better optimized JB. Unless they go to 5.0..
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How about our devices
Still get update from google after JB???
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I'm trying not to think about an upgrade.
I've really enjoyed every update, except 4.0.4 giving me a weird power button issue that a clean install and 4.1.1 fixed.
I literally just flashed 4.1.2 on, and AGAIN it feels like my phone is a bit faster and snappier.
I'm going to treat my Nexus S like my G1....keep updating until it until it grinds to a halt.
Before that happen, I think your power button would stop working first.
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look that post guys:
http://www.chip.com.tr/haber/android-4-4-kitkat-onlara-da-gelebilir_44151.html
galaxy s plus(ariesve) can be in somewhere of the list
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look that post guys:
http://www.chip.com.tr/haber/android-4-4-kitkat-onlara-da-gelebilir_44151.html
galaxy s plus(ariesve) can be in somewhere of the list
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I don't think so
All displayed devices have less then two years!!! :/
LOL. This thread is funny
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There is no mentioning of our device i dont think samsung will provide any updates
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come on man..dont make me laugh like this again...
I dont think so bro plus not in list
hehe I don't need official KitKat - I have the better one from ADC-Team
Our device has long been discontinued and Samsung won't bother re-working their dated Gingerbread-era sources for KitKat. From an economic standpoint It doesn't make sense for them to waste money on an inferior dated device, not to mention that they'll have to adapt their new TW framework if they ever decide to upgrade devices like ours.
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look that post guys:
http://www.chip.com.tr/haber/android-4-4-kitkat-onlara-da-gelebilir_44151.html
galaxy s plus(ariesve) can be in somewhere of the list
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No. If we didn't even got 4.0, how on earth can you think that lazy a*sholes of Samsung will ever release not 4.1, not 4.2, not even 4.3 but 4.4? not only we would just jump over 4 major OS updates, but they should also work to implement ION memory allocator on our "old" and "dead" device...
Sammobile says:
" P.S: Note that devices that have been in the market for more than 18 months, and devices like the Galaxy Note and Galaxy S2 which have already received two major updates, won’t be getting Android 4.4, thanks to the 18-month support policy manufacturers follow."
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/12/0...ce-3-galaxy-core-and-other-low-cost-devices/
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I cannot believe it. I stay tuned for the version of dev_connection team!
thats why there are all these beautiful custom roms out there.
We are talking about samsung !!!
Samsung showed they don't care about supporting their older handsets as usual. But I have to say hats off to those developers who do this for these beautiful handsets
thats right, an official update from samsung makes no sense after 2.5 years from release.
) don;t think so
Actually if Samsung would make official slim 4.4.2 rom without all that samsung stuff. It would make quite a bit waves. Good reputation and showing customers that they can trust the longevity of their purchase. Galaxy S(i9000) sold like 15+ million units I think. Not a small number.
Even after 4 years there would be interest.
Too bad samsung is selling so much that they don't need to make reputation Good hardware sells afterall Software has always been samsungs weakness.
I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?
That's definitely a concern of mine. Sony is worse than the major Android manufacturers (Motorola, HTC, Samsung, even LG is rolling out its Kitkat update) in terms of updates. One consolation is that Android updates aren't as big or crucial as they used to be since it is a pretty mature OS at this point, but I can't deny that I find Sony's update speed disappointing. I don't think it will stop me from getting the Z2, tho.
You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?
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It s so good If companies support their flagships for OS upgrade But there s no different between Sony or Samsung or ...
currently i m using Note3 on JB 4.3 however 4.4.2 for all variants released from Samsung But it s too slow.
If you want number of OS version you should buy nexus devices. that Google support them ~2 years (like Galaxy Nexus) with fast upgrade and release.
But If u r thinking about more functionality on ur smartphone u have to buy samsung, sony or ...
/*Companies don't think about u who bought a flagship 4-5 months ago.
*they think about who want to upgrade from old phone. so they release high-end phone every 6months to get markets. */
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You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!
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Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!
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What are you really doing here - takes as is or leave it
I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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vittogn said:
I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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We're on similar situation , I can't stand the awful battery life of the nexus 5 , I don't miss the SD card at all since I have the 32 gb version and that's enough for me, what bothers me too is that the 16:9 photos are 6 MP, I would like 12-13 MP photos, I don't need 20 MP photos but I'm not complaining either Haha
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Some more thoughts on slower updates that might make your mind rest a little easier:
As someone else pointed out, if you take Samsung as an example, faster updates aren't always a good thing. Samsung devices are usually pretty well optimized for the version of Android they ship with, but when they update to a new major version of Android the performance can get substantially worse. I've noticed this with several Samsung devices. So giving a manufacturer the time to make sure everything works well on their hardware is a good thing. Keep in mind brand-new Android releases are often tailored to a subset of Android hardware in the latest Nexus devices, and hardware differences in other devices might take a while to perfect.
Also, new major versions of Android often have bad bugs. Look at Motorola who invested a lot of effort into getting 4.4 on the Moto X very soon after it was released. Unfortunately 4.4 had several major bugs including broken Exchange support! Moto X owners who upgraded were stuck with broken devices until Moto released 4.4.2 months later. So it is also good to wait for at least a couple of point releases before a manufacturer commits to a new version of Android.
Nexus devices don't have these issues because they can just keep releasing new updates quickly, but if a manufacturer's customized Android actually offers valuable improvements (which I think Sony's does) it makes sense to take a little longer.
I still wish Sony were faster, tho
I'm a bit worried. I honestly Sony would concentrate on one flagship per year, like everyone else. I'm on an XZ and am sick of trying to keep up. I'm considering my next phone now, but I can't say if the z2 is a slam dunk now. I do like the sound of the speakers though...
I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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Personally not worried about getting updates late but a bit worried about not getting updates at all after a while & becoming abandoned
I mean Samsung is releasing Kitkat for GS3 which is a device from may 2012, Not sure if it's the same with Sony specially with their two flagship a year strategy
I'm not. If there is not a disturbing bug in Z2, I still use it. If the new feature that roll out from Sony and Google with an update is not necessary and attracting to me,I don't change my phone to other brand.
Who cares what OS version you got? Unless there is a bug or something, I don't care if I ever get any updates. I would even prefer the older version now since they messed up the notification screen.
To be honest, Jellybean is stable enough so that we don't necesarily "need" further updates. I'm "suck" on 4.1.2 on my optimus g and don't really mind at all(And yes, LG is worse at abandoning their flagships). Got kit kat on my nexus 7 and don't really see much difference. I miss the great sony UI though. Still torn between this phone and the z1.
I buy phone - start to see if everything works - root - flash custom rom. Never worries about updates.
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And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ? I understand the importance of an update, but on the other and I think people exaggerate the need for them a lot...
So to answer the question - no, i'm not afraid. Frankly speaking, I don't really care, as long as it won't take a year or so.
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And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ?
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A pretty major update in 4.4 for devices with on-screen buttons, like the Xperia series, is "immersive mode" (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...go-truly-full-screen-hide-the-navigation-bar/). There are other nice updates, and maybe that one doesn't interest you, but to me it's a big deal. You never know when Google is going to throw a great new feature like that in.
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I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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What? Worse than Samsung?
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Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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odie70 said:
Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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I'm pretty sure we will get Android M through various different means, even if Sony doesn't do it.
Does this include the AOSP developer version or just official stable roms?
Official stable roms.
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Bad luck man,3 years is good time tho
You'll be happy with z5 mate
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I know that sony can definitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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I know that sony can difinitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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You're right, I think we deserve the android M from Sony
xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Soft...arshmallow-Which-Xperias-will-be/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
wmcdrugs said:
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Softw...e/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/...0-marshmallow/
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Both of those links are broken.
Fixed, thanks
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Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
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Yes, sony dev are suck i guess
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
No hating, but I suggest we all turn up the heat with Z1 getting 6.0. I mean look at the Z, it received updates up until 5.1.1, so it doesn't seem logical that the Z1 being a much newer and higher spec phone compared to the Z gets up to 5.1.1 only. We should get the 6.0 update. As for the Z, IMHO it's update until 5.1.1 is already a welcome farewell to the grandfather beast. Because of the Z, Sony has come along way.
Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Mostly because the updates where just all a mess except 4.4.4
But my mayor concern is if the Z5 sales fail - Sony will for sure sell their Xperia department this time ...
I was really keen to get a Z5, but considering the awesome specs of the Lumina 950 and 950XL, updates as you are used to get them on Windows I probably give it a try. Continuum is just to good to be true. Would the 950 be Waterresistant, no doubt at all to move...
Some people fighting for latest firmware. And there's people like me who still staying with Kit kat for stability and stuff.
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
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The core of the ROM is mainly from another device such as the Z2, but they're built against specific device configs. It's really not that complicated and it's something that Sony could easily support as it'd be no different to what they've already done with Lollipop.
The Nexus 5 is similar to the Z1 and that'll be receiving Marshmallow. Hell, the Z2 isn't all that different from the Z1 either. The only difficult part to deal with is the camera, but it's not like Sony can't get it done.
People should keep complaining and demanding the 6.0 update for the Z1 and then we might end up with an update, but if people sit quiet and don't even bother to ask about it then we'll be stuck on 5.1.1 unless you want to unlock your bootloader and install ROM's that will never be 100% stable.