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Hi.Is it just my S2 get hot when I play games or use GPS? Especially at the top around the camera.
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Normal.
Yep, very normal. However I did find that using GPS really heated things up... next hottest is games
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same here
I had similar issue this morning. Listened to music then watched a video (20 minutes) on morning commute and device got very warm, felt it in my pocket. it soon cooled down but still a bit conerning....
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Yep, very normal. However I did find that using GPS really heated things up... next hottest is games ...
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probably using that particular GPS software, not just GPS antenna by itself?
does it heat up if you just display GMaps with your location, without doing anything heavy in GMaps? Because I did not notice that much heat coming from using light GPS apps. Gaming - yes, some of those games are killers.
I am using Navigon software. I played Angry Birth and the same,phone was hot after 5min. I know is normal that phone is warm, but this is not warm,but hot.Galaxy S was cold compare to S II.
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Of course it's NOT normal. Might be normal for SGS2 but not for others. as I've said on another thread, Navigating with GPS driving it got to 60C, you could slowly cook an egg at 60C.
Mine doesn't get especially warm, It gets well 4-5 degrees warmer when I browse the web or watch HD movies
It's think it's high screen brightness in combination with SW (high CPU load)!
Mine is never warm if brightness is kept below 50%
My screen brightnes is 0%. It is hot at the top where is CPU I gues.
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Could rooted phone be warmer than unrooted phone?
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How many degrees celsius is taken as very hot on the Galaxy S II?.
I was overclocking my Galaxy S II earlier and my temprature was up to 46 degrees celsius when i was running a stress test on the phone.
So i just stopped my stress test of the phone then.
How did you measure temperature?I have just battery temp. it is 42.
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How did you measure temperature?I have just battery temp. it is 42.
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You can download the same stress test program as i'm using from Android Market. It's called StabilityTest v1.5.
it will test your CPU's on your Galaxy S II if you are overclocking it. But you can check the temprature even if you aren't overclocking.
the temp rise is sort of random, i can play games for hours (and its 26C here) with brightness on auto and so on, it doesnt get hot
then suddenly, it does, sometimes even when im not doing much
didnt get the time to pin point w/e thing creates that behavior
(and when i say hot ofc im talking of very very hot - which is what everyone talks about imo)
killall or restart and its good to go til it happens again
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How many degrees celsius is taken as very hot on the Galaxy S II?.
I was overclocking my Galaxy S II earlier and my temprature was up to 46 degrees celsius when i was running a stress test on the phone.
So i just stopped my stress test of the phone then.
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I'm running that app now. I wanted to get an idea of temperatures at stock before undervolting/clocking so I could see how much difference it made. But the phone is seriously hot to the touch, enough to be worrying about. The app's reporting 50C after 37min but it feels hotter than that to me.
Some components are designed to run hot. For example I have an ATI 4850 that happily runs 70+C at idle is rated for up to 120C. But I'm worried even if the exynos can handle these temps what about the other components? The top of the screen feels even hotter back. Could this cause damage to the display for example?
This is my first smart phone but having that much heat in such a tightly packed device seems like a recipe for failure.
You will find temps of 50 deg centigrade and more when using all resources of SGS II (e.g. nav with wikitude drive = camera on) and phone attached to car screen on a sunny hot day.
This is normal!
Touch a nav-device in action and You will find it glowing ......
But contrary to HTC HD 2 SGS II does not freeze or crash at that point.
Leave a device switched off in direct sunlight in a car and it will get hot too, but still it will work .....
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my phone was getting extremely hot when benchmarking etc, this was default clock and voltages.
the phone reported it was reaching 50 degrees. thought this was "normal". this was on the firmware the phone was running outta the box.
flashed latest firmware and have since messed about with overclocking, @ 1650 my phone never got as hot as it did stock.
so if you have not done it, flash the latest FW...
So your cpu is not 1200 but 1650mHz now?
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Been running tons of different ROMs on tons of different Android devices, and every once in a while there is a particular combo that gets tremendously hot.
Once had my N1 get so hot while using Co-Pilot Live and Spotify while plugged into a car charger, that it turned off and wouldn't come on again for some 5-10 minutes.. Definitely worrying.. Switched ROMs and never saw the problem again.
When gaming, it gets so hot that it makes me think "this should definitely not be this hot", I would categorize it as "an unusual amount of heat". It makes me afraid I'm going to melt something on the inside haha so I give it a break. I know it's hard to describe temperature over the internet but is yours getting uncomfortably hot?
Near the top/topleft in landscape
Mine sometimes gets on the warm side, but the Nexus 10 has safeguards to prevent "dangerous" temps (your CPU clock will downclock in increments of 100MHz until the CPU gets cooler, and then spike back up to 1.7GHz; lowest I've seen it go was 800MHz).
Download Cooltool at play store and set up what you want to show as a floating widget. This is how I monitor my cpu, batt temp, ram, wifi strength etc. This way you can be more accurate in determining wether your device is too hot and if you should be worried.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ds.cpuoverlay
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Download Cooltool at play store and set up what you want to show as a floating widget. This is how I monitor my cpu, batt temp, ram, wifi strength etc. This way you can be more accurate in determining wether your device is too hot and if you should be worried.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ds.cpuoverlay
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Hey thanks a lot for that! but uhh how hot is too hot for the battery?
Mine gets really damn hot as well near the removable cover. I really pondered removing the cover and back and seeing if I can make vents in the back, with a screen, then I can remove that removable cover while gaming. It's most noticeable during Need for Speed most wanted.
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Mine gets really damn hot as well near the removable cover. I really pondered removing the cover and back and seeing if I can make vents in the back, with a screen, then I can remove that removable cover while gaming. It's most noticeable during Need for Speed most wanted.
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It doesn't really bother me, per say, but I'm just worried that its going to mess it up, but at any rate good to know it's "normal"
Normal: 70 d F
TOO HOT: 95 d F
Mine does that too. I have noticed that the case is starting to warp where the heat is most concentrated... Just to the left side by the power button. Between the power button and the camera. Almost like some glue came off and the casing is separating...
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That's not good
I was using mines for google talk video chat and it got really hot. I checked the temps and it was at 91F.
Ok I did a test again and it went up to 105F. All this just by video chatting. Thats not normal!
Mines getting hot too just an hour of browsing the web and its extremely warm.
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Ok I did a test again and it went up to 105F. All this just by video chatting. Thats not normal!
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Why do you think that? It's perfectly normal for a chipset like this.
Its not just the top part thats hot like it should be. By holding it with my hands on the side you can feel the heat.
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Its not just the top part thats hot like it should be. By holding it with my hands on the side you can feel the heat.
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If you blast through the battery in a few hours with 3D gaming or the like the battery will get warm, too (40-50°C).
it was only like 20 minutes. I'm not saying the device getting warm isnt normal. I know that it is. However the first device i had did not get as hot as this.
The N10 is thin and very powerful so heat might be more noticeable. As long as it's "only" getting warm and not slowing down/stuttering in this state, there's nothing to worry about.
lol thats kinda the problem. the video keeps stuttering and freezing and so does the game....
everyone should be undervolting the nexus 10
this device can't even run at stock speeds for extended lengths of time without throttling due to high temperature...
it's easy to test, just run StabilityTest (search google play) and run the Classic Test... you'll eventually see your CPU throttle down from 1700MHz (mine goes down to 1400MHz every so often... i'd probably go down even more if i hadn't undervolted it)
therefore, undervolting it will help it run at stock speeds for longer
I noticed mine heating up for the first time. Don't play many games at the moment. Heated up quite a bit between camera and buttons just like others have mentioned. I was playing ingress when I first noticed. Also when I was just using browser to the ingress/Intel page. I was thinking it had to do with GPS but after reading other comments I guess CPU was working hard refreshing page.
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For some odd reason, the phone gets very hot while I am on a call. It doesn't happen all the time though. Calls are quite short (no more than 10 min).
Can anybody shed some light as to how to fix this glitch?
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Try a different kernel and set the threshold really low. Recommend Franco. Also what's your exact temp?
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42.2C
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42.2C
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thats not really hot, warm maybe, hot no. your body temp is 37C, water boils at sea level at 100C.
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thats not really hot, warm maybe, hot no. your body temp is 37C, water boils at sea level at 100C.
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But is it normal for it to get to that temperature in 5 min?
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But is it normal for it to get to that temperature in 5 min?
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yes. depending on the background temperature too, and youre keeping it insulated in your hand.. if it was the middle of winter in new york city, and you were outside talking on the phone, it wouldnt ever reach that temp. but when its warmer, it can get there fast.
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42.2C
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That's extremely cool and normal, no worries. But I have hit CPU shutdown limit (90° C) because it was to hot. Here's a screenshot I took before it shutdown.
Edit: I was gaming while charging on 3g and this was in Illinois like a month ago so weather wasn't hot. Lol I didn't know after my fingers started burning I needed to cool this phone down
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That's extremely cool and normal, no worries. But I have hit CPU shutdown limit (90° C) because it was to hot. Here's a screenshot I took before it shutdown.
Edit: I was gaming while charging on 3g and this was in Illinois like a month ago so weather wasn't hot. Lol I didn't know after my fingers started burning I needed to cool this phone down
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gaming while charging can do it. so can streaming a flash movie while charging. plus your battery will get very hot.
Mine was just a phone call hence why I thought it was a bit too much for 5 min. I don't usually give the phone heavy use and it normally remains pretty cool. I might just still change the kernel
Thread also here: http://rirozizo.blogspot.com/
Hi,
Soon to be RC here, and my first contribution to the nexus 4 world is an attempt to convince you that your nexus 4 isn't overheating.
Some of you replied to my first thread here about what should i worry about in the nexus 4. Some replied that it has a battery drain... that i fixed by removing the google search bar... Others have said that it has overheating issues which some users are scared of.
I'm here to show you why you shouldn't be scared at all.
I was playing Fast And Furious 6: The Game, and 5 minutes later when i ran out of car gas, i closed the game and directly opened Trickster MOD app to see the temperatures of the phone... yes temperatureS.
You'll notice there are two temps in this app: Battery Temp and CPU Temp.
The one you used to check on older devices is Battery Temp, because older devices didn't have CPU Temp sensor.
When i first opened Trickster MOD it showed this:
Battery Temp: 42°C
CPU Temp: 56°C
And then seconds later, the CPU Temp dropped to 49°C and stayed at 49-50°C.
But Battery Temp was decreasing slowly from 42°C to 38°C in about 5 minutes.
Now the reason for the fast CPU Temp drop is that when the CPU is busy, there is so much electricity running through it, it generates heat. But when the CPU is practically resting, the electricity running through it is much less, hence, the Temp drop, which is normal. And also, if you're using a kernel that supports turning off the 3 other CPUs when not in heavy use, then it's better because the less CPU cores active, the less heat.
So the main thing you should be scared of is the Battery Temp... But don't be, because Android is smart:
Android has a built in overheating system which does certain steps to avoid hardware heating damage, if the phone overheats, it takes some steps:
1- If charging, it stops charging to reduce Battery Temp.
2- Reduces CPU speed automatically to make less electrical current run through the CPU, thus reducing CPU Temp.
3- If both of the above failed to get out of the overheat situation, it shuts down the phone.
So if you were playing a big game, and the phone heats up... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest
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But the question still remains: if I'm charging the phone using the wall charger, and I put it on the wireless charger, will it blow up?
Well, yeah. This is what we have been trying to say since the Nexus 4 came on the market.
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Hi,
Soon to be RC here
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Good luck with that!
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Good luck with that!
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Thanks mate, actually I've been trying to be an RC since last summer... hopefully this time I'll acheive my goal, it's been a year.
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i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.
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i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.
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good call, I'll edit that.
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Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
failly said:
Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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you beat me by 3 minutes
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
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Thats true, thanks for clearing it up!
Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.
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Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.
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you're right, it's not "coded" into android... but so far every android build i've seen has that security system.
but that's not the point, the point of this thread is to stop N4 users from posting "overheating issue" posts, and not worry anymore.
I hear ya. But I am going to rain on your parade. It will never stop.
At best ( which I doubt) they are children that simply don't know much.
But the truth is they are plenty of fools and it will never stop. The level of stupidity I have seen related to this discussion is appalling.
Only way it will stop if it becomes taboo. One thread in general and any new threads about it get closed down and deleted.
Actually it is android that controls temperature throttling. Or to be more precise the android kernel. Which reads the thermald file for it's Max CPU temperature.
There are also hardware cut offs 100°Cpu and 60° battery which will power off the phone.
These temperatures are what I consider overheated. Anything below or throttling is to prevent your device from overheating
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I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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This phone is really hot even when you are looking at it with screen turned off.. I hope you understand what i mean
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I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Mine hasn't gotten to hot.
Those reporting this problem are probably a minority of all nexus 4 owners.
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Yes the phone does get hot sometimes especially after 10-15 mins of continuously browsing the web on 3G+ or 3G and after 15-20 mins on wifi.. But that's for stock 4.2.2 and 4.3. After undervolting and underclocking the device using custom kernels and ROMs the phone does not get very hot.. It's between 37-40 even after playing games like nova 3 and nfs mw for an hour if you hold the phone with your bare hands and it obviously depends on your configuration.
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I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Thin glassy phone + powerfull cpu = heat Nothing to worry about.
It gets hot, at least on stock firmware, although my definition of hot might be more sensitive than others. I don't know what it would be like talking on the phone for an hour with it getting hot next to your face, although I haven't done that. I have to use custom rom and underclock the cpu a bit, so it's not an really issue anymore. I probably will get flamed for this, but I don't recommend this device to you if you don't like phones getting hot. But I guess lots of these newer flagship phones that has thin plastic casing probably gets hot too.
With normal usage the phone doesn't get too hot or anything. If you are fond of overclocking and disabling thermal throttle you will get pretty high temperature's. Around 70 degrees celcius.
It get's hot as any other phone but because it has got a glass back you feel the heat better.
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It didn't feel warm at all after undervolting and limiting heat using Trickster Mod (and has been yundervolted for the past 3 months).
Before that it could sometimes get really hot though.
Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Is your phone undervolted and temprature limited?
My temprature never goes over 40 degrees celsius, and feels rather cold most of the time.
Even with rather intensive games like NFS Most Wanted
This phone will not burn you. There isn't a real reason to consider the heat a problem. The temperature of the phone is regulated by the kernel, if it gets too hot the kernel takes measures to reduce the amount of heat being produced. This is a non issue.