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First steps with new Vega?

I am about to get a Vega (now £200 in the UK). Can anyone tell me what I should do after I unbox it?
Is it really that bad out of the box?
Are there customisations you can do with the stock ROM or is burning a new ROM really essential?
Thanks in advance.

in one word "YES" , it is really that bad out of the box.

A full rom is not required to get the basics out of your vega. You can try my rom add-on (available in the development section) which just adds the basics like market etc. It is very easy to install. Then ditch the awful launcher by installing launcher pro or alike. Then button savior for me is a must, by adding the missing home button as a on screen button.
Adding things like kernels is great if you need the extra features, such as usb switching.
There are a few choices of full rom, the most popular at the moment appears to be from corvus, who is doing great work on are vegas.
Hopefully honeycomb will be with us soon, when this happens a rom flash will be a must
Edit: I notice you have purchased the £200 vega that has v1.08 firmware, i would recommend updating to v1.09. It adds flash as well as full screen notifications and also includes updated graphic drivers. Which improve the "artifact" problem

bobbyelliott said:
I am about to get a Vega (now £200 in the UK). Can anyone tell me what I should do after I unbox it?
Is it really that bad out of the box?
Are there customisations you can do with the stock ROM or is burning a new ROM really essential?
Thanks in advance.
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I agree with ganjaman, ive just spent the last few weeks trying things with my vega.
I would suggest reading the modaco and xda forums thoroughly Before trying to flash anything. Learn from the devs. Rooting, and nandroid backups is a good place to start.
Good luck!

honestly its bad out the box.
But custom roms are great on it and brings it to life
i think the modoco rom is the best atm although cm7 is on the ways and looking very promising

+1 , yep bad out of the box.
I think the first thing most people would do is to load this on. From there you have the Market and if you want to do more then you also can root and run up Rom Manager.
Also good if you know how to use nvflash just in case.

I've had my Vega for a week now, so I thought I would answer my own questions.
bobbyelliott said:
Can anyone tell me what I should do after I unbox it?
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Nothing. Have a play. You can use it for surfing, Facebook, Twitter and Youtube. Don't begin by doing anything drastic liking burning a new ROM. At least not right away. And using the supplied device, at least for a while, will let you know what you are leaving behind if you do decide to upgrade.
Is it really that bad out of the box?
No. It's fine out of the box. That's why Advent sells it this way. You can do most things anyone would want to do, without installing anything extra.
Are there customisations you can do with the stock ROM or is burning a new ROM really essential?
Yes, you can do a few simple things to improve the supplied device. You can install Android apps on the device -- if you can get a hold on the APK file (essentially, the program file). The device comes with a file manager so it's simply a case of find the APK (Google is your friend), downloading it, and running the file using the file manager. The app will then install. You can do this without installing anything extra to the device.
The next stage in upgrading the device is to install the full Android Market, which you can do without upgrading the ROM. That will give you full access to all of the Android apps. The supplied device with Market added is a pretty attractive package if you are reluctant to go further.
The best upgrade is to replace the original ("stock") ROM with a new ("custom") ROM. This will give you many extra features (including the full Market experience) and is very worthwhile. But you don't have to do it.
The final upgrade is to burn a custom ROM and customise the device like crazy using a launcher. These are available on the Market and can transform the whole look of the device. I replaced my stock ROM with the Modaco custom ROM and installed Launcher Pro -- and my Vega looks fantastic.

I agree with original poster, it works quite fine out of the box, and works even better if it has pov firmware, as it has a smaller statusbar and 1.10 seems abit faster and smoother.
But then ofc we all get tired of stock firmwares and start modding

hello all.
Yup couldnt agree more with above posts.
Well...... I do think it is a bit poo oob, but is useable. Its just not very slick or fun oob.
Once you add a launcher of choice it starts to get more fun.
Rgds
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Edit: oob stands forr out of the box.
Ps i like the mirror symetry of "poo oob". Not planned, but pleases me.

New Xoom User

Hey, I just picked up my Xoom from Futureshop yesterday. I am in Canada and it is the WiFi only version.
I see there are many threads on Rooting and all that good stuff. My issue like always is there is too much information. I can never find what I want, or be 100% sure it's what I need.
So my first question is, is there a point to rooting the Xoom right now? Are there any useful and good ROMs for it yet? What other reason should I do it, I have rooted and installed ROMs on my Desire for ever now and the only benefit I see is the ROMs and a couple apps, yet I think I am missing a point lol
Second, for my North American (Canadian) WiFi only Xoom, which rooting steps and files do I need/follow? Thanks
Thirdly, excluding the Google applications and Games (because I already have them) what are some apps that support tablets currently? Also, what cool things are you doing with your Xoom?
Thanks.

bmancell said:
Hey, I just picked up my Xoom from Futureshop yesterday. I am in Canada and it is the WiFi only version.
I see there are many threads on Rooting and all that good stuff. My issue like always is there is too much information. I can never find what I want, or be 100% sure it's what I need.
So my first question is, is there a point to rooting the Xoom right now? Are there any useful and good ROMs for it yet? What other reason should I do it, I have rooted and installed ROMs on my Desire for ever now and the only benefit I see is the ROMs and a couple apps, yet I think I am missing a point lol
Second, for my North American (Canadian) WiFi only Xoom, which rooting steps and files do I need/follow? Thanks
Thirdly, excluding the Google applications and Games (because I already have them) what are some apps that support tablets currently? Also, what cool things are you doing with your Xoom?
Thanks.
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This thread is definitely in the wrong section!
But I'll answer the first question:
The main reason I rooted was to overclock to 1.5 GHz. I also did it because I know that eventually I'll want to try out a custom ROM or run some other SU apps somewhere down the road. I also wanted USB host capabilities. As far as I know though, there aren't any custom ROMs yet, but there is a custom kernel, Tiamat. I haven't tried it yet, because I've been content with the stock OC kernel.

Oh crap, yea I didn't notice I was still in this section. Sorry, please move MOD.
Thanks for the reply. Overclocking eh? Will that destroy my CPU/device quicker or any other bad side effects?
And link to do that with my version?

Moved to general.
Generally, 1.5 GHz seems to be tolerated very well by the majority of XOOMs. If you notice random pauses, lockups, or restarts, tone it down a little bit.
You will likely notice a little additional battery drain, but as long as you're not on "performance" governor in SetCPU, you'll be fine for the most part.

bmancell said:
So my first question is, is there a point to rooting the Xoom right now?
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Screenshot ER is a good reason Lets you take screenshots (no kidding!) without adb. I also have some other apps that need root like Root explorer.
EDIT: You might also want to ask: Why should I NOT root? Sometimes it helps to see both sides but I haven't found any disadvantage.

Ok, so I found this thread which seems to be my model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010568
Instructions aren't exactly clear, I know it takes time but why do people not do step by step, pictures even. Geez.
And where do I get this overclock stuff?
Thanks

One Click Root
The is pretty much the easies way to root your xoom. A one click method, and also unroot it back to stock if anything need to be done, like take it for repair to motorola or the upgrade for lite. It works for both wifi only and 3G. Just make sure you click the correct method for your kind of device.
There is also videos out there on youtube and google with it being done, that's how I got mine done. And more of a visual guy.
Here is the link from here on XDA, good luck. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011196
Here is a link to the video I use, these guys have videos on both rooting and unrooting, enjoy fellow Xoom. http://theunlockr.com/2011/03/30/how-to-root-the-motorola-xoom-wifi-or-3g-one-click-method/

Well there we go! lol
Thanks a bunch.
I assume once I am rooted I just install that SetCPU app and play with it?

Best reason to root? Ad-blocking hosts file!

same thing here...wifi only in canada. I used one-click root ... click ok like 15 times and you're done!

one click rooting, nice! I'm new to all this rooting stuff........so that might just push me over the edge!

Other than ad blocking, not really. I haven't root'd mine.
Sent from my Captivate

Yea the part that gets me is the ability to unroot and put back to stock, just in case I need my warranty.

yeah the ability to unroot is the best thing since the xoom. Lol. Cuz you can always go back to original. Just a side note be very careful with that setCPU' it can be useful, and hurtful.the xoom is fast already, but. I mean as other have said, it is safe to an extend, but I would keep it that hight. One becauxe of battery life, and two because it could become an issue. I think if it was totally safe to clock that might, motorola would have been the one to do so, and would have put this device out the as having a 1.5Ghz processor. So just be careful, and as soon as you notice anything not right or normal, head for the door. Lol. (Go back to stock)

A-men.
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bmancell said:
Ok, so I found this thread which seems to be my model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010568
Instructions aren't exactly clear, I know it takes time but why do people not do step by step, pictures even. Geez.
And where do I get this overclock stuff?
Thanks
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I also bought my xoom at future shop. I used that link above to root my xoom and now im overclocking as well.

Do rooting enable the "Market Enabler" app?? and if the answer is yes, do this app fix the problem of the missing apps by hacking the market provider to [US] Verizon??????

It needs root and busybox. Basically, it lets you set your carrier to any carrier you like to fool the market.
It is often used by people who's countries don't provide market access.
Since I don't have a XOOM yet I can't vouch for its functionality on there but I don't see why it shouldn't work.
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only 3g
I believe the above comment is correct. And as a side note I think the above app is only going to work with the 3G Xoom, not the Wifi only version. Because of the celluler radio. I have heard that both the wifi and 3g have a radio, because even the wifi version has a sim card slot, due to it being combine with the micro sd card. If this proof to be true, it could be a good deal for use with the wifi only. Cuz that means I pay $200 less. And if it is there, motorola will likely not make it active. But then once the codes are release, folk on XDA will make that dream a reality.

Don't count on that slot working on the wifi model. The important hardware like the radio will likely not he there.
The only reason the slot is there is because its combined with the SD slot and it would be costly and pointless for them to source an alternative socket just for the wifi model.
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What have we got, and what do we need? (Development)

Hello everyone.
I will be getting this device soon and I am excited. About 2-3 years ago I used to help some devs build custom ROMS for a ZTE mobile, and I would like to contribute on this tablet now. Back in the day - things were very simple but I am sure everything has changed since then.
So my questions are - what tools do we have? What limitations does Samsung put in place? What tools do we need?
Let's get some development going guys? Would be nice to get the basics out the way so we can start to get "real".

punkmilitia said:
Hello everyone.
I will be getting this device soon and I am excited. About 2-3 years ago I used to help some devs build custom ROMS for a ZTE mobile, and I would like to contribute on this tablet now. Back in the day - things were very simple but I am sure everything has changed since then.
So my questions are - what tools do we have? What limitations does Samsung put in place? What tools do we need?
Let's get some development going guys? Would be nice to get the basics out the way so we can start to get "real".
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We need some app that allows us to use Note 10.1 as wacom digitizer for PC. Just for use with Photoshop or else. Via USB or BT. Didn`t find something even close.

punkmilitia said:
Hello everyone.
I will be getting this device soon and I am excited. About 2-3 years ago I used to help some devs build custom ROMS for a ZTE mobile, and I would like to contribute on this tablet now. Back in the day - things were very simple but I am sure everything has changed since then.
So my questions are - what tools do we have? What limitations does Samsung put in place? What tools do we need?
Let's get some development going guys? Would be nice to get the basics out the way so we can start to get "real".
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Root is possible now. Some models without tripping knox.
Recovery is out as well, works fine for me but some still have issues.
If you can contribute to sorting that IMHO it would be a good step towards custom roms and kernels.
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holysheet said:
We need some app that allows us to use Note 10.1 as wacom digitizer for PC. Just for use with Photoshop or else. Via USB or BT. Didn`t find something even close.
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I second that. I tried a couple wifi based ones and they are very laggy. I need to learn how to do it with my wife's Surface Pro 2. I'm sure that is flawless.

holysheet said:
We need some app that allows us to use Note 10.1 as wacom digitizer for PC. Just for use with Photoshop or else. Via USB or BT. Didn`t find something even close.
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It's doable, but I'm not too sure on the precision. I know some people have used a remote connection app to use devices as graphics tabs. IMO it's not of major importance yet, and could probably be done pretty easily once we have the basics in place better.
If root is good without tripping Knox - that would be one thing sorted. I'll take a look into recovery when my device comes.

Counter Strike : Source ported to Android(Proof of concept, need more work)

Hi everyone,
After suffering a failure with portal 2(snif), I decided to try another game.
I successfully launch Counter Strike : Source on the Shield Tablet.
This is a proof of concept so there is a lots of bugs, thank you for your comprehension.
Edit2: First video(uncut), game at 1:18
First screen
Edit : Wrong section xD due to the excitation, Shield instead of Shield Tablet but it's the same think, it works on both x)

More screens from game, work in progress
Logo Counter Strike fixed

Bump. Video added.

First post update.

Congrats, that is very cool!!! great to see some development for the shield.

Hello! It seems that you, I, and @legofan623 are the only ones interested in this type of thing. If you want, I can give you a few pointers to help you overcome many issues.
Now, I don't know the specifics of CS:S, but I know Portal 2 will not run on an outdated engine (meaning that only NVIDIA would be able to make it work).
To get rid of those "ERROR" textures, you need to go through the games files and un-capitalize the name of every file you see. On larger games, this would require using a bulk-renaming tool. If you want me to help you out with this at all, just let me know.
I just watched from the video and I'm sorry to say that I don't think this is going to work. It is unlikely that multiplayer or weapons would be possible using an older client.

r3pwn said:
On larger games, this would require using a bulk-renaming tool.
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I recommend spacetornado renamer if you're on windows.
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r3pwn said:
Hello! It seems that you, I, and @legofan623 are the only ones interested in this type of thing. If you want, I can give you a few pointers to help you overcome many issues.
Now, I don't know the specifics of CS:S, but I know Portal 2 will not run on an outdated engine (meaning that only NVIDIA would be able to make it work).
To get rid of those "ERROR" textures, you need to go through the games files and un-capitalize the name of every file you see. On larger games, this would require using a bulk-renaming tool. If you want me to help you out with this at all, just let me know.
I just watched from the video and I'm sorry to say that I don't think this is going to work. It is unlikely that multiplayer or weapons would be possible using an older client.
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CSS is a mod of Half Life 2 so the game engine is really near.
For Portal 2, i did not do too many illusions x).
No worry about the error textures, that's my fault and i really know how fix that(by the way already fixed the first day). No need a bulk renaming tool i find a other way for launch larger games.
Don't be sorry, the only missing is the overlay which is start the game, i need rewrite some lib.

Will this ever be finished? Just asking.

Progress?
Hey matyas69 I'm a developer and am very interested in this project. I was wondering how you went about doing it. Also what is the progress on it. And do you need any help. Me and a friend have been interested in porting some source games to shield for a while and would be more than happy to help you out on this project. I really want to see this happen

r3pwn said:
Hello! It seems that you, I, and @legofan623 are the only ones interested in this type of thing..
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I am VERY interested in this Any info on how to do this? Would love to see all Source games running on the Shield.

Procedure & Files for upgrading Mad Catz Mojo

Due to the recent price drop for the MCM there has been some renewed interest on fb in the MCM. It took many hours to collect the files and figure out how to get it going right so to save others some time I put an instruction PDF together along with all the files you need.
It's located in a public google drive folder located at:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8TeTD5Bph9dMkJyX1N5ZktBcHM
Have fun,
Phoenix4848

Phoenix4848 said:
Due to the recent price drop for the MCM there has been some renewed interest on fb in the MCM. It took many hours to collect the files and figure out how to get it going right so to save others some time I put an instruction PDF together along with all the files you need.
Have fun,
Phoenix4848
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Thnx Phoenix, yes i bought one today (wednesday delivery) and was surfing around clipping and downloading stuff. about the MOJO. This looks easy enough to use. Thank you for your work already done !
Still in doubt if i want android TV installed or CM as i bought also a android TV remote with it (not even sure if these work but i costs only $4). Love the shields laucher/desktop.

Got one also start play with it now .....look cool and fast.

thanks a lot OP. very helpful.

Excellent work and thanks, @Phoenix4848! Don't forget that there are alternative methods of flashing, and also other ROMs out there. I recommend setting up Fastboot just as a safety net; it can save your bacon if something goes wrong with Flashify. This XDA section is a gold mine of info on the MOJO, but you don't need that link, do you?

kevinthefixer said:
Excellent work and thanks, @Phoenix4848! Don't forget that there are alternative methods of flashing, and also other ROMs out there. I recommend setting up Fastboot just as a safety net; it can save your bacon if something goes wrong with Flashify. This XDA section is a gold mine of info on the MOJO, but you don't need that link, do you?
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Thank you for the feedback. Yes I want to install Remix OS on a different mojo; I won't attempt that until I have Fastboot up.
I created the folder/link for a kodi box support group on fb. The procedure is simple enough for the average user and it's important mojo owners get rooted and SuperSU installed - there is a piece of ransomware that is targeting Android 4 devices. CM 12.1 is stable and user friendly - and it's android 5.1 which will run the newer versions of Kodi.
Adding it here was an afterthought.

Phoenix4848 said:
Thank you for the feedback. Yes I want to install Remix OS on a different mojo; I won't attempt that until I have Fastboot up.
I created the folder/link for a kodi box support group on fb. The procedure is simple enough for the average user and it's important mojo owners get rooted and SuperSU installed - there is a piece of ransomware that is targeting Android 4 devices. CM 12.1 is stable and user friendly - and it's android 5.1 which will run the newer versions of Kodi.
Adding it here was an afterthought.
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Good thought, even if it was after. You don't need fastboot to install RemixOS, or any other one, but if your MOJO is soft-bricked and you can't get into TWRP recovery you can fastboot boot the recovery and flash from that. You can also fastboot flash the recovery. And BTW you do not necessarily need MoDaCo's fastboot, if you're set up for other Droids like I was you can use your existing fastboot setup. I find it easiest to do from Linux.
Yes, I like the Lollipop ROMs myself, a huge advance over KitKat (IMHO they shouldn't have bothered to release KK). And Marshmallow is even better, much to my amazement. I wish I had the extra time to learn to port ROMs myself, there'd be a MM ROM out for the MOJO about now!

Fastboot set up?
kevinthefixer said:
Good thought, even if it was after. You don't need fastboot to install RemixOS, or any other one, but if your MOJO is soft-bricked and you can't get into TWRP recovery you can fastboot boot the recovery and flash from that. You can also fastboot flash the recovery. And BTW you do not necessarily need MoDaCo's fastboot, if you're set up for other Droids like I was you can use your existing fastboot setup. I find it easiest to do from Linux.
Yes, I like the Lollipop ROMs myself, a huge advance over KitKat (IMHO they shouldn't have bothered to release KK). And Marshmallow is even better, much to my amazement. I wish I had the extra time to learn to port ROMs myself, there'd be a MM ROM out for the MOJO about now!
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How do you set up Fastboot on the MOJO?

Thanks
Phoenix4848 said:
Due to the recent price drop for the MCM there has been some renewed interest on fb in the MCM. It took many hours to collect the files and figure out how to get it going right so to save others some time I put an instruction PDF together along with all the files you need.
It's located in a public google drive folder located at:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8TeTD5Bph9dMkJyX1N5ZktBcHM
Have fun,
Phoenix4848
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Thanks Phoenix4848 - works for me....

Thx Phoenix4848...
Works fine and makes me happy.
Regards from Germany

For 50 bucks this is the best android device in the market

does Amazon video player app work on mad catz device? I'm prime member lt install but can't play any movie..... anyone know why?
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ponghclub said:
does Amazon video player app work on mad catz device? I'm prime member lt install but can't play any movie..... anyone know why?
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Not a clue. But here's a couple things to try:
1) Call or e-mail Amazon tech support
2) Try a different ROM on the MOJO

Remix maybe?
ponghclub said:
does Amazon video player app work on mad catz device? I'm prime member lt install but can't play any movie..... anyone know why?
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Probably not a problem with the Mad Catz device probably a problem with the OS. Stock is Android 4.2, CM doesn't seem to work with every player. Remix works with more players but I don't know if it will work with Prime. I'll try later.

ponghclub said:
For 50 bucks this is the best android device in the market
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It really is isn't it? Once you get over the hurdle of flashing a decent ROM, you're set. Fantastic little gadget. I was very lucky to get it for £60 here in the UK. I don't think I've ever had emulation play so well on anything before.

thank you ...for reply and advice now I will try to flash the new ROM I have to read more instruction.... again thanks
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OK I have chat with Amazon IT tech he said most game console can't play Amazon video that the end of it and I get $5 for the next purchase. I will install the new ROM next...wish me luck!
PS: I still have doubt some of us have Amazon prime member install the video app to see ..is he right? thanks
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ponghclub said:
OK I have chat with Amazon IT tech he said most game console can't play Amazon video that the end of it and I get $5 for the next purchase. I will install the new ROM next...wish me luck!
PS: I still have doubt some of us have Amazon prime member install the video app to see ..is he right? thanks
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I'm a Prime member but it'll be a couple weeks before I get a real chance to fiddle with it, so if nothing more comes up to prevent it, maybe I'll try it on CM12.1 then. Too many irons in the fire now...

Last year, there was a workaround to play Prime videos via the Dolphin Browser with flash activated. However, ever since Amazon Prime Video dropped Flash support, it's no longer working.
Prime was the reason I bought my first MOJO, ended up selling it when the the workaround stopped working. As of now, I use the (second) MOJO for Kodi and the Youtube App only.
It's truly a shame we can't use it for a service we pay for, especially when they claim on their website that all android systems (>4.0) are supported.
I haven't tried any other custom ROMS since the stock meets my needs for now(minus Prime Video). But please do let us know if it works on the custom ROM you try.

Amazon Video works on Remix
AndroidSupaFan said:
Last year, there was a workaround to play Prime videos via the Dolphin Browser with flash activated. However, ever since Amazon Prime Video dropped Flash support, it's no longer working.
Prime was the reason I bought my first MOJO, ended up selling it when the the workaround stopped working. As of now, I use the (second) MOJO for Kodi and the Youtube App only.
It's truly a shame we can't use it for a service we pay for, especially when they claim on their website that all android systems (>4.0) are supported.
I haven't tried any other custom ROMS since the stock meets my needs for now(minus Prime Video). But please do let us know if it works on the custom ROM you try.
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I just got Amazon Video working on the Remix ROM. No tricks, it just works.
Additional note Xposed also works on that ROM. And Paragon should offer NTFS support. I like Remix - next step get a HDD working.