My sister is ( finally ) getting me a Note as a bday+Christmas present.
She stopped at several stores and they told her they only stock the 16G.
The reason is that nobody is buying the 32G. If they want 32G they are buying the 16G and a 16G microSD card, since it is cheaper.
To me it seems to be a nobrainer to get the 32G ( buy as much as you can ) so I'm a bit surprised that people are thinking that way.
Which is the better approach? Ok I know that with 32G you always get 16G more. but aside from that. ( I hope you understand what I'm saying here. )
16gb version is better.. look at the math..
16gb note 10.1 - $500
32gb note 10.1 - $550
16gb micro sd - $14
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-16GB-MicroSDHC-Memory-Class/dp/B001F7AJKI
32gb micro sd - $23
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-microSDHC-Memory-SDSDQ-032G-AFFP/dp/B007KFXIDE/ref=pd_cp_e_2
64gb micro sd - $59
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...358744080&sr=1-1&keywords=64+gb+micro+sd+card
txtmikhail said:
16gb version is better.. look at the math..
16gb note 10.1 - $500
32gb note 10.1 - $550
16gb micro sd - $14
32gb micro sd - $23
64gb micro sd - $59
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I must say that I posted on xda--developers instead of some other forum because I expect a more intelligent answer. This is an answer that is worthy of a cnet forum or something like androidforums.com.
Your answer is correct only if two conditions are true. The quality of the memory on the card is the same as the quality of the internal memory. If it's less, then you have to go with more expensive higher quality cards which gainsays your whole argument.
The second condition is that to a user has the same "experience"[1] using a 32G tablet and a 16G tablet +16G card. If there are differences in the experience then people will find one or the other better to use.
It is the second condition that my question was addressing.
[1] Sorry to all readers, I really hate that word when used to talk about computer use, but can you show me another which works as well here?
Space is space.. why pay $50 more for 16gb when u could have 64gb.. its a tablet not a computer.. you will not need a high class card unless you plan of some 1080 video recording or some blu-ray movie watching.. Most cards on the Market except cheap china memory cards will get the job done.. space is more important than speed when using a mobile device... I gave you my opinion and if its not what u looking for than what are you looking for? 16gb is enough space for games and apps.. Use your sd card slot for music and movies
For what I use my tablet for, I have not found a difference in "experience" when retrieving files from my external micro sd compared to my internal sd. That is, from low quality videos to pdfs, I have not found any decrease in performance comparing the two different sources. In addition, I actually use dropbox and google drive a lot more now, just because it came with 50gb in dropbox, and I store a lot of documents in drive because I was getting annoyed at retrieving them from tablet to desktop to phone for a quick reference.
I am using a 16gb tablet + a 32 gb card (Sandisk.. I think it's class 4 or class 6).
Basically, what I would say is that a 32gb tablet is always better if you don't mind throwing in extra money because you never know when you might want that extra 16gb. However, it isn't necessary if you have a good wifi connection in locations you normally use it (for example, my apartment has great wifi, and my university has great..ish wifi), or if you don't have a bajillion ultimate HD videos to store on your device. In any case, I got a 16gb because there isn't a wifi 32gb white version. I mean, who in their right mind would pick the gray ?
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Ihave not found a difference in "experience" when retrieving files
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I'm sorry, but I am not justg talking about the experience when "retrieving files". For example the "memory"[1] is used during booting. It's used for swap. It's used to store applications and configuration files. With some of the things it is probably not important. The thing is that I am not that familiar with android and if I was I would already know the answer and not have to ask. (Sorry forgot to add this in the original version. ) One way to think of this question is: is there a circumstance where the tab is likely to say ( with the 16G and not the 32G ): "I'm sorry SDave. I can't do that because you've run out of internal memory. I don't care that you have an external 500G HD attachded. I can only do that with internal memory." [2]
Put another way, if I were told by a friend that he was buying a desktop which came with an unremovable hard drive and only one slot/port to which he could add a second hard, and if that friend then asked how big of an internal hard drivwe should he get. I would probably answer get as big as your circumstances allow. But is that the same answer for an android tablet?.
In any case, I got a 16gb because there isn't a wifi 32gb white version. I mean, who in their right mind would pick the gray ?
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Who in their right mind would pick "Apple White"?
[1] Again a stupid word. It's a hard drive, or rather a SSD not really "memory".
[2] OK. It's late and I am getting a bit loopy but you get the question.
It's very clear the OP Is looking for a convincing answer to persaude his sister into buying him the 32 GB.
As others here have correctly explained, besides more storage, which could be had cheaper in form of SD Cards, there is very little technical advantage to the 32GB.
Ask yourself what answer you'd be looking for if it you were getting it with Your own money.
Be grateful, you will be happier.
Way I see it is this. You want a Note 10.1, You ain't paying for it, get the one your sister can afford. If money is NO problem get the 32gb note3g. If money is tight, get the 16gb and get a 32gb card.
Technically the ONLY difference between wifi devices is the storage.
IF I were to buy another note I would get the 32 Gig 3g one, purely and simply due to portability (I don't like tethering when out and about, drains phone battery too quickly). Colour wise, I don't have a preference. But since the white one would be going to my OH I would probably get a grey to differentiate.
All right. So, my point was that I didn't encounter any trouble with my 16gb one based on my location and uses as listed, and I've never had such "I'm sorry, Dave, I cannot allow you to do that" moments on my previous tablet which was also a 16gb + 32gb microsd chip.
Again, for my personal uses, I've never found a need for more than 16gb (I've always had about 5-10gb free if I clear my download folders after I transfer files). So, yes, it does sound like you want some excuse for the extra 16gb. If that is the case, then just think of it as a just-in-case-you-need-more-than 16+64gb of storage and online storage isn't an option.
As for you calling it Apple-white..
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, tell me, sir, what color pray tell is that!? THAT IS RIGHT! Apple-gray! Just like the evil 32gb wifi note tablet! (Actually, the reason why I like white for this tablet is because it is a plastic build and shiny white doesn't look bad compared to a plastic shiny gray to me. However, when I saw the gray one in store, it actually wasn't as bad as the pictures look..)
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It's very clear the OP Is looking for a convincing answer to persaude his sister into buying him the 32 GB.
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1) My sister has already agreed to get me the 32G model.
2) I've offered to pay her the difference. She doesn't want it.
3) I've tried to explain why I want the 32G. several times. She says that she doesn't care. The last few times she started getting huffy about it. So I stopped trying to explain. Hey I'm a geek that knows when to tone down the geekiness.
The thing is that my sister has stopped at several stores, and they all told her they stopped stocking the 32G because no one wanted it and they gave her the 16G+16G card story. I later called several stores and they told me they only had the 16G in stock but didn't give me the story.
She is averse to buying things online, but said she will special order it. I assured her that I wasn't in that great a hurry. So every thing is hunky dunky.
Ask yourself what answer you'd be looking for if it you were getting it with Your own money.
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I would buy the 32G from NewEgg and not jump through the hoops she has.
Now don't you feel stupid for to paraphrase Arthur Conan Doyle ":theorizing before you had the facts"?
As others here have correctly explained, besides more storage, which could be had cheaper in form of SD Cards, there is very little technical advantage to the 32GB.
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Instead of telling us the technical advantages are little.why don't you tell us the technical advantages and let us decide for ourselves?
32gb with 32gb microsd . 16gb has like 11gb to start with when after the os etc. 3 hd movies 2gb music and some apps and you're full.
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1) My sister has already agreed to get me the 32G model.
2) I've offered to pay her the difference. She doesn't want it.
3) I've tried to explain why I want the 32G. several times. She says that she doesn't care. The last few times she started getting huffy about it. So I stopped trying to explain. Hey I'm a geek that knows when to tone down the geekiness.
The thing is that my sister has stopped at several stores, and they all told her they stopped stocking the 32G because no one wanted it and they gave her the 16G+16G card story. I later called several stores and they told me they only had the 16G in stock but didn't give me the story.
She is averse to buying things online, but said she will special order it. I assured her that I wasn't in that great a hurry. So every thing is hunky dunky.
I would buy the 32G from NewEgg and not jump through the hoops she has.
Now don't you feel stupid for to paraphrase Arthur Conan Doyle ":theorizing before you had the facts"?
Instead of telling us the technical advantages are little.why don't you tell us the technical advantages and let us decide for ourselves?
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What every one is trying to say is....if money is no concern then get the 32gb model, obviously it is better to have more internal storage coupled with a decent card. And that if money is a concern, then it would be cheaper to buy the 16gb model and get a 16 or 32gb card. Essentially with the 32gb model you are paying 50 more for the extra 16gb, whereas a 16gb card is only 20.
I've had the 16gb version since end of November, installed loads of apps and still have 8gb left.....and I don't even have a memory card yet.
So.....money no object get the 32gb.
Money matters.....get 16gb + 16 or 32gb card.
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First let me thank you for giving me a chance to get this thread back on track. When some arrogant fool says something foolish I tend to engage.
Bigger fool I for that. ( 10 points if you get the literary reference. )
Riki1kenobi said:
Way I see it is this. You want a Note 10.1, You ain't paying for it, get the one your sister can afford. If money is NO problem get the 32gb note3g. If money is tight, get the 16gb and get a 32gb card.
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The thing is not the money. The thing is that she hates online shopping and the clerks at the BestBuys, Walmarts etc told her they don't stock 32G ( not sure they were telling the truth though--when I called one they told me they stocked them but were out ). They siad it was because everyone was buying the !^G+ 16G card. They implied that that was a better way to go because it was cheaper.
This runs contrary to my instinct. If a friend told me he could buy a computer with a !T drive or one with a 500G drive and he could by an extra 500G drive, I would tell him to buy the 1T computer even if the other one was cheaper. ( Unless it was like well $250 cheaper or something like that. ) My understanding is that this logic is even more compelling for tablets. So I might be misunderstanding something, and I thought I would ask here, to clarify my insight.
IF I were to buy another note I would get the 32 Gig 3g one, purely and simply due to portability (I don't like tethering when out and about, drains phone battery too quickly). Colour wise, I don't have a preference. But since the white one would be going to my OH I would probably get a grey to differentiate.
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Well I would refuse the 3g part because I refuse gto carry any kind of cell phone .
The color I was just joking about.
Nobody has yet picked up on the most basic of issues... Sigh...
The external SD card CANNOT be used for applications and in most cases "game data".
It can only be used for storage of media files and for archival purposes, such as backups. You CANNOT move any applications to it unless you are prepared to root the tablet and make significant changes to the way it works.
Go for the 32GB if you can get hold of it and she can afford it. Amazon UK sell the 32GB version but only in the WiFi version, not the 3G version.
Z.
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What every one is trying to say is....if money is no concern then get the 32gb model, obviously it is better to have more internal storage coupled with a decent card.
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Let me try to differ politely. This is not what txtmikhail, klau1 and asdfuogh ( though asdfuogh has not said it as forcefully as the other two ) have said. They have said that there is no significant difference between the 32G and 16G+16G card so the a6+a6 way is always better because it is cheaper.
This is also what some store clerks were implying.
My understanding is closer to what you said, buy the biggest model that you can afford.
That is why i posted, because I was not sure whether the clerks were lying or my understanding was wrong.
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First let me thank you for giving me a chance to get this thread back on track. When some arrogant fool says something foolish I tend to engage.
Bigger fool I for that. ( 10 points if you get the literary reference. )
The thing is not the money. The thing is that she hates online shopping and the clerks at the BestBuys, Walmarts etc told her they don't stock 32G ( not sure they were telling the truth though--when I called one they told me they stocked them but were out ). They siad it was because everyone was buying the !^G+ 16G card. They implied that that was a better way to go because it was cheaper.
This runs contrary to my instinct. If a friend told me he could buy a computer with a !T drive or one with a 500G drive and he could by an extra 500G drive, I would tell him to buy the 1T computer even if the other one was cheaper. ( Unless it was like well $250 cheaper or something like that. ) My understanding is that this logic is even more compelling for tablets. So I might be misunderstanding something, and I thought I would ask here, to clarify my insight.
Well I would refuse the 3g part because I refuse gto carry any kind of cell phone .
The color I was just joking about.
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3G doesn't make it a phone! It makes it connectable (usable) where there's no hotspot or in your case a phone to tether it to.
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3G doesn't make it a phone! It makes it connectable (usable) where there's no hotspot or in your case a phone to tether it to.
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My bad.
MouseTheLuckyDog said:
1) My sister has already agreed to get me the 32G model.
Instead of telling us the technical advantages are little.why don't you tell us the technical advantages and let us decide for ourselves?
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On first point be thankful of a very nice sister
On point 2, there are NO technical differences. They are exactly the same tablet, just with more storage. Hope this clears it up.
As some will say, it depends on what you use it for. Gaming will eat up 16gig quickly. However, always remember to clear the cache for apps often. I freed up just under a gig by clearing the cache earlier. Apps like Google plus and Currents are cache hogs. Over 300mb between them.
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I have the 32GB. I'm hardly a power user and I only have 11GB free of main memory. Obviously the 16GB would never have been enough for me. I have all my backups, music and video on the SD card, so none of that space is taken up with those. I suspect it's mostly extra game data from Gameloft and EA games that are installed.
So much debate over something so simple. Color me impressed! Internal storage is faster than external (SD card) storage. If you plan to load a lot of high end games and such (eg Bard's Tale alone is 3.5GB...throw in some Modern Combat and a couple others and you're done), you'll want the 32GB model. IN ADDITION, if you want greater overall storage then a 32GB gives you the potential of 96GB when paired with a 64GB card.
There really isn't much more to it than that.
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I'm looking at getting a 32gb micro sdhc card for the phone.
First, any suggestions on where to buy and brand?
Second, is the phone capable of handling ask classes and taking advantage of the speed of higher classes?
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Why do you need a 32GB Micro SDHC card? The phone already has 16GB built in (2GB for apps and 14GB for storage). But if it is something that you really want then, I believe Verizon is selling a 32GB SD card for $99.99.
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc -- I believe $99.99 was only for Droid X buyers.. i HIGHLY SUGGEST that this is not recommended because the price gap between a 8GB SD Card and 16GB SD Card is not worth it especially with the built in 14GB.. why do you need so much?
You can get a 32gb class 2 on amazon for around $130 here
they have a 32 class 4 for $77 here
I would suggest a 16 gb card for much less.
You can get a 16gb class 6 for $72 here
You can get a 16 class 4 for $35 here
and a class 2 for $23 here
Enjoy!
When I got the phone I replaced the 2 gig sd card came with the phone with my old 8 gig sandisk class 2 card that I was using with my G1. I realized immediately that phone slowed down on sd access so whatever you get make sure you get at least class 6.
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When I got the phone I replaced the 2 gig sd card came with the phone with my old 8 gig sandisk class 2 card that I was using with my G1. I realized immediately that phone slowed down on sd access so whatever you get make sure you get at least class 6.
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Same except I moved the Avatar movie files to the previous SD Card and formatted it to be 100% FAT32. 8GB Class 6 card
@PathogenX: You forgot to include the Shipping & Handling and possibly taxes (varies between different states).
Transcend 8GB Class 6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 -- Good offer; been using this for a LONG time on my G1 and now Vibrant. And 32GB Class 6 (if there are even such thing) isn't even worth it. 32GB in general wouldn't be worth it considering the price gaps as I mentioned previously. Newegg for most states doesn't take sales tax so thats also a plus. Browse around Newegg if you're looking for a 16GB, they usually have the lowest prices for SD cards.
I don't think you should be talked out of getting 32GB, if you want it.
I'm saving the $100 b/c I don't have an immediate need. I have the above Transcend 8GB C6 card, and it's great: 8mb write, 11mb read.
-bZj
The reason why I want 32gb is that I want to carry my entire music collection with me, which is well north of 20 already and I wasn't room to grow plus store apps, videos, pics, etc.
Problem is it is hard to find 32gb cards out there. I've seen a few on amazon, but class 4 seems the best available. I was wondering if that's good enough or if I should keep looking.
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The reason why I want 32gb is that I want to carry my entire music collection with me, which is well north of 20 already and I wasn't room to grow plus store apps, videos, pics, etc.
Problem is it is hard to find 32gb cards out there. I've seen a few on amazon, but class 4 seems the best available. I was wondering if that's good enough or if I should keep looking.
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Apps have its own dedicated storage (2GB) out of the 16GB so really you have..
14GB + Whatever the size of your SD card will be. Keep in mind that the "classes" play a huge role. I mean honestly.. is all of that stuff necessary to have on your phone?
You can have the pictures on your Facebook, Photobucket, etc.. basically cloud and they don't take a lot of space at all (unless they're taken with a $2000 camera and non-compressed). Videos, you would only keep what you want to watch and not always just leave it there.
I still love my Vibrant but I rather have a dedicated music player for my music, and thats what my iPod is for.
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The reason why I want 32gb is that I want to carry my entire music collection with me, which is well north of 20 already and I wasn't room to grow plus store apps, videos, pics, etc.
Problem is it is hard to find 32gb cards out there. I've seen a few on amazon, but class 4 seems the best available. I was wondering if that's good enough or if I should keep looking.
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I hear ya. I formatted my 16 gig card from my now retired HD2 so I could test the music player before buying a bigger card. So far, I'm impressed. I actually prefer the mp3 player on the Vibrant to my ipod.
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I would simply prefer to have only one device and not carry more. Everyone does things differently, to each there own.
Apparently though, finding a 32gb card of class 6 or above is near impossible. So it seems I either need to wait a while or come up with some scheme to get by with less.
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Verizon sells a 32Gb for $99 if you dont trust Amazon's sellers or off brands
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&archetypeId=12214
Why is everyone trying to talk him out of getting a 32gig card? Its his money let him spend it how he wants too.
I haven't seen any class 6 32gig cards, 32gig cards are still fairly new. I have a class 2 16gig card from my HD2 and I use it just for music and movies. It work fine takes a sec or two too load the music. I think a class 4 would be ok if you are just using it for music.
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Why is everyone trying to talk him out of getting a 32gig card? Its his money let him spend it how he wants too.
I haven't seen any class 6 32gig cards, 32gig cards are still fairly new. I have a class 2 16gig card from my HD2 and I use it just for music and movies. It work fine takes a sec or two too load the music. I think a class 4 would be ok if you are just using it for music.
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Because we're "trying" to help him out to make him spend his money on things that could be more beneficial to him?
If somebody asked for advice on a new computer for gaming and he specifically wanted a laptop for highend competitive gaming, would your logic of "oh its his money, let him spend it the way he wants to" work? No. people would try to talk him out of it because thinking rationally, it doesn't make much sense. Is there a use of 32GB? yes. If he got a 16GB card that would be 30GB already. If he got a 32GB card he wouldn't have to be worried too much about always replacing things on his SD card It has its pros and cons, but the cons definitely outweigh the pros. Because I know for me when I watch a movie, after I'm finished.. I'm never going to watch it again... at least not for a while and thats just not worth keeping it on your SD card or phone's internal.
Throughout time, SD cards will be cheaper and cheaper because of data inflation anyway.
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Because we're "trying" to help him out to make him spend his money on things that could be more beneficial to him?
If somebody asked for advice on a new computer for gaming and he specifically wanted a laptop for highend competitive gaming, would your logic of "oh its his money, let him spend it the way he wants to" work? No. people would try to talk him out of it because thinking rationally, it doesn't make much sense. Is there a use of 32GB? yes. If he got a 16GB card that would be 30GB already. If he got a 32GB card he wouldn't have to be worried too much about always replacing things on his SD card It has its pros and cons, but the cons definitely outweigh the pros. Because I know for me when I watch a movie, after I'm finished.. I'm never going to watch it again... at least not for a while and thats just not worth keeping it on your SD card or phone's internal.
Throughout time, SD cards will be cheaper and cheaper because of data inflation anyway.
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A 32gig card is not going to ruin his phone. A 32gig card serves a purpose for him and is cheaper and easier than getting a second mp3 player.
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A 32gig card is not going to ruin his phone. A 32gig card serves a purpose for him and is cheaper and easier than getting a second mp3 player.
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I never said a 32GB card was going to ruin his phone at all. You know that there are other ways of getting music played on the Vibrant right? There are MANY alternatives such as Pandora, Slacker, Last FM, Cloud Sync, and more.
All which take a lot less room than storing a bunch of songs on your SD card.
Not to mention but with that much music on a SD card. Android lacks a syncing program to sync music and keep everything organized. I know HTC is working on that but it will most likely be limited to HTC devices only.
And really.. if you're going to have 32GB of music, you're not ever going to listen to every single one of them. It's not necessary. And I rather watch movies on a bigger screen than the Vibrant, if im on a road trip or something of that sort.. it'll make sense but if im not, I'm not going to leave movies on my phone. If i do, I'll watch and get rid of it and put it back on when I plan to watch it.
Be glad that Samsung even provided the 16GB (14GB space; 2GB apps) otherwise you wouldn't even have that to work with. I know you'll probably bring up the area on battery usage with the phone using all that power on 3G and streaming and whatever. But every phone has its limitations, a phone is not a computer.. it cannot do everything that you want it to do.
Also it doesn't matter if its "cheaper" because in the end, he's paying more for his money. I just don't understand why you don't want people pointing out the other options that are available for him aside from his desired method.
You should just get the 32 gb card. I got mine from verizon for 100 bucks put all my music on it, ditched the ipod and never looked back.
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There are MANY alternatives such as Pandora, Slacker, Last FM, Cloud Sync, and more.
All which take a lot less room than storing a bunch of songs on your SD card.
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What is your point? The OP wants HIS music. And maybe the OP will be somewhere he can't stream over the network, it happens, you know.
And really.. if you're going to have 32GB of music, you're not ever going to listen to every single one of them. It's not necessary. And I rather watch movies on a bigger screen than the Vibrant, if im on a road trip or something of that sort.. it'll make sense but if im not, I'm not going to leave movies on my phone. If i do, I'll watch and get rid of it and put it back on when I plan to watch it.
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Finally you start to get real when you say "I". What you say is about YOU. Not about the OP. But your needs are not his. I am with the OP, I want to carry all my music collection with me, and I'm not going to explain why to someone who can't even tell the difference between their own wants and someone else's. And my collection fits on a 160GB iPod, but not on an 80GB so I have to pick and choose when I use a smaller device. I want to know about 64GB cards, and 128GB cards, eventually.
Also it doesn't matter if its "cheaper" because in the end, he's paying more for his money. I just don't understand why you don't want people pointing out the other options that are available for him aside from his desired method.
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He didn't ASK for your opinion on alternatives, he said he wants to carry HIS music collection with him. Go ahead on point out alternatives, but stop acting like your viewpoint is the only valid one--it isn't. And if you want to start a new topic on how anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, go ahead, but stop polluting this topic.
As for my advice for the OP, go for the 32GB card, get the faster one.
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He didn't ASK for your opinion on alternatives, he said he wants to carry HIS music collection with him. Go ahead on point out alternatives, but stop acting like your viewpoint is the only valid one--it isn't. And if you want to start a new topic on how anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, go ahead, but stop polluting this topic.
As for my advice for the OP, go for the 32GB card, get the faster one.
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First off, I never said or acted upon that my viewpoint is the only "valid" way. There is no such thing because there are many ways of doing the same thing.
It's not justifiable to make a NEW thread continuing from a previous thread, thats what responses are for. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and debates/arguments will rise upon that. I'm not going to be ridiculed by you because I'm simply stating what I feel about 32GB sd cards.
If you don't like arguments then maybe you shouldn't read forums because that is exactly what forums are all about its a place where people join together and state their opinions about things.
And what is this so-called "opinion on alternatives" since when did alternatives become opinions? All I simply did "think out the box" and stated my personal experiences using them. Sorry if this offends you!
And your advice doesn't even fall into what the OP is asking for. The OP is asking for brand names and places to get 32GB cards... not whether if I should get a 32GB SD card. And I pretty much gave him the answer to what he was looking for in the second post with Blueman101 providing a direct link to what I was talking about.
Oh and before you try to say I'm contradicting myself, I'm a person that likes stating the other options that he is able to choose from.
I'm not deciding on what he should do and what he shouldn't do... thats for him to decide.
Edit: Just noticed that you said "HIS" music. Have you even tried Last FM, Pandora, or Slacker? they're pretty much online radio stations that YOU can customize and they have a lot of the music that you have already. Based on what you listen to, they contribute to your radio and you can expand your music choices. It plays songs that it might think you will like, it is absolutely fantastic technology. If all you want to do is listen to YOUR MUSIC ONLY, then i seriously doubt that because people who listen to music will always want more and more music to listen to.
Not to mention, you have ABSOLUTE full control over it. If you don't like it, you can press skip or I think theres a button in there that says to never play this again (thumbs up and thumbs down).. after a while, the system will start to know what kind of music you're into and overall its just a good experience.
P.S. welcome to xda PhilSlater
Also-- this thread isn't all about the OP, there could be other people on the forum who found the topic name "SDHC" to be interesting and looking to make a purchase on a SDHC card and I'm pretty positive that they appreciated the other choices on SDHC cards.
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Because we're "trying" to help him out to make him spend his money on things that could be more beneficial to him?
If somebody asked for advice on a new computer for gaming and he specifically wanted a laptop for highend competitive gaming, would your logic of "oh its his money, let him spend it the way he wants to" work? No. people would try to talk him out of it because thinking rationally, it doesn't make much sense. Is there a use of 32GB? yes. If he got a 16GB card that would be 30GB already. If he got a 32GB card he wouldn't have to be worried too much about always replacing things on his SD card It has its pros and cons, but the cons definitely outweigh the pros. Because I know for me when I watch a movie, after I'm finished.. I'm never going to watch it again... at least not for a while and thats just not worth keeping it on your SD card or phone's internal.
Throughout time, SD cards will be cheaper and cheaper because of data inflation anyway.
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I have a high end competitive gaming laptop, or was a year ago. Probably the best money I have ever invested. Bad analogy.
I could go in to a whole debate to prove my point about laptops>computers, but that would be a different topic and forum haha. So I won't reply to any more posts about it on this topic/forum.
But, would I be okay with a 8 gig class 6? I don't really want to use this phone as an mp3 player or media hub, just to play games(ps1, n64, gba) and be a smart phone.
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I have a high end competitive gaming laptop, or was a year ago. Probably the best money I have ever invested. Bad analogy.
I could go in to a whole debate to prove my point about laptops>computers, but that would be a different topic and forum haha. So I won't reply to any more posts about it on this topic/forum.
But, would I be okay with a 8 gig class 6? I don't really want to use this phone as an mp3 player or media hub, just to play games(ps1, n64, gba) and be a smart phone.
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It was originally, "where can i download European ROMs for my vibrant" but I changed that. But yeah you're right, highend gaming laptops are there but most competitive players (tournament play, CEVO, WCG, etc) don't play on laptops for gaming. Kind of like competitive players (professionals) using wireless mouses.
Just that you can get a lot more out of your system by just building a computer with parts rather than waiting for a manufacturer to build your system and you're unable to do any upgrades by yourself.
@But, would I be okay with a 8 gig class 6? I don't really want to use this phone as an mp3 player or media hub, just to play games(ps1, n64, gba) and be a smart phone.
And yeah.. it would be fine, ROMs for PS1 are about ~700MB per disc. The transcend one that I posted is a pretty good price, Class 6 as well. If you're going to store a lot of ROMs, I'd go with a 16GB or just buy multiple 8GB sd cards. You could also store them on the Samsung's 16GB that pre-exists (14GB since 2GB are used towards apps)
I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!
I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device
checkbox111 said:
I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device
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Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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I can totally see the appeal.
However, I want that keyboard with the extended battery and I also want an SD card slot. Say what you want, but having the option to expand memory is pretty awesome.
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now don't you feel silly?....
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I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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That's not true.
If you ever want to move files from device to device all you have to do is pop out the card on one device and into another.
I would hate to wait for 16GB worth of data to be moved through USB.
The biggest files are media files so if you plan on keeping a lot of movies on your tablet at one time, then the bigger storage is probably best.
Though, the way we are headed, everything will be streamed/downloaded through cloud anyway.
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I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!
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Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.
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I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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I personally bought the 16 GB because the 32 GB was sold out @ BB. I figured that I could always expand my memory via micro SD.
to me it doesn't make a ton of sense to add more onboard memory when expansion is possible, cheaper and more convenient
16GB unless you really have tons of music/movies that you want to carry with you all the time. I already have a 32gb iPhone4 so I have no reason to store my music on the tablet. 16GB more than enough.
I personally went for the 32. Unlike a phone, the microSD and SD cards are accessible. I plan to use those like floppy drives of today. It's much faster to copy media directly to the cards from a computer and stick them into the pad than to try to sync or copy them via the pad. At one point, I was thinking that I can just upgrade. However, there will always be some apps that cannot be moved to the microSD.
Also, Amazon currently has the 32 for $499 and 16 for $449. $50 difference for onboard 16 is a no brainer.
I just bought a 16gb with the same mentality as some of the previous replies. I went with the cheaper alternative knowing that I could easily upgrade the storage with a Micro SD card if I started running out of space.
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Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.
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Does not follow that it is better. 48 may be more then 32 but it is less then 64. You don't think that people that buy the 32 gb model are then going to say "Aw I don't need a 32 gb Micro SD card, I have more then enough internal already". No they are going to say "I wish they had 64gb Micro SD card I can put in this thing".
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Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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now don't you feel silly?....
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I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts
Given Google music, and rentable movies that either stream or delete themselves after you watch them, I think Steve Jobs is on the right track. I have WiFi 95% of the places I go. 100% of the time on work days. With the Google music beta I have no music ON my tablet, but access to my entire collection with a network connection. The 16gb tablet has room for several movies, but once netflix and android market movies are fully functional I don't see the point of even bothering to rip a DVD into a format that will play. My conclusion? 16gb saved me $50 or more over the 32gb version. That pays for netflix for 6 months or so.
Got the 16gb, and got a 32GB microsd at 90$ (patriot 32gb class 10) looks great
If you really (x10) need memory, go for the 32GB model, otherwise, the 16GB model will do just fine.
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I plan to use those like floppy drives of today.
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Ha, what?! Are you from the past?
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I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts
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I edited it to include the link to what was referred to, to make it easier for you.
I even included the reason I edited it. If you look at the post I linked to...it was NOT edited.
Let's think about what you accused me of (starting a post about getting a tab 10.1). Was that me? No.
I decided to keep the 16gb from Amazon. External storage is all I need. Do any of the current folio cases have pockets to hold micro SD cards?
Problem with going low and using cards is it's a pain to maintain a desktop like atmosphere if I have some on board and some on a card and swap cards for something else and need access to what was on the other card. I have a mydocs folder under mysugarsync folder and sync it with my home computer. Considering a majority of my files are media/Office based, and mt TF replaced my laptop, I have a more complete setup without having to swap cards. I also had a bunch of gift cards and paid about $300 for the 32gb after returning the 16gb one so it wasn't a tough choice. I like card access, but swapping cards more often is not really my idea of efficient. Plus the slots are always open for use. Still wish the tablet had full size SD. Hate the trend towards micro on devices that have no justification for it. Considering the TF is wider than any other 10.1 with nothing else really under the hood in comparison, a full size SD should have been a no brainer.
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Without knowing my specific needs if anyone could help with their best guess advice
Today is the last day, my 14th day for an exchange at T-Mobile
I have the 16gb white galaxy s3. Love the phone
The 32 gb was not out until a few days after i got mine
I have the 16gb plus a 32gb extSDcard
I normally think that is more than enough combined space. I, like so manynof my friends keep only curremt music on it, etc..not ALL my music
But one case where it does matter. If I were to use Music Square, which is an awesome feature, the music has to be on the phone
16gb gets crowded. Although I could continue to weed the music down to that amount
....as long as there won't be any other issues
Can anyone who has been in this scenario think of where, not the combined ammount of space matters, but rather the amount on your phone like the music square
Will I encounter any other issues that may encourage me to get the 32gb on the phone.
Your best guess not knowing me but knowing I have basic uses and 64 mb combined is probably enough to help answer this is greatlybappreciatedin either putting a mind to rest or getting me out there to spend that extra 53 bucks
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eric0668 said:
Without knowing my specific needs if anyone could help with their best guess advice
Today is the last day, my 14th day for an exchange at T-Mobile
I have the 16gb white galaxy s3. Love the phone
The 32 gb was not out until a few days after i got mine
I have the 16gb plus a 32gb extSDcard
I normally think that is more than enough combined space. I, like so manynof my friends keep only curremt music on it, etc..not ALL my music
But one case where it does matter. If I were to use Music Square, which is an awesome feature, the music has to be on the phone
16gb gets crowded. Although I could continue to weed the music down to that amount
....as long as there won't be any other issues
Can anyone who has been in this scenario think of where, not the combined ammount of space matters, but rather the amount on your phone like the music square
Will I encounter any other issues that may encourage me to get the 32gb on the phone.
Your best guess not knowing me but knowing I have basic uses and 64 mb combined is probably enough to help answer this is greatlybappreciatedin either putting a mind to rest or getting me out there to spend that extra 53 bucks
Thank You
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To be honest Id spend the extra $53 for piece of mind. Better safe than sorry IMO. If you decide you need more space you'll spend more later trying to buy a 32gb after your 14days and the headache of trying to sell your 16gb. I dont dl music but i think for google music it caches it in the internal memory and not sd card. But in my case I play a lot of games and games data are stored in the internal. Right now I only have 6gb out of the 12 (I have the 16gb model for tmo). I also have the 32gb sprint but its been deactivated and it still has 19gb of space. There are times I wanna switch back to sprint just to have the 32gb again but I cant stand 3g. I would love to have the 32gb but I bought my tmo s3 at costco and they currently dont offer the 32 gb otherwise I wouldve jumped on it.
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Well first they will charge a restocking fee. Second it should be fine with 16gb.. Of course it depends on usage. I personally have the blue 16gb with a 32gb class 10 samsung sd. Plenty for my needs. The only reason I would consider getting the 32gb is because the flash memory on the galaxy is WICKED fast... Loading times are great. I don't personally play too many games so for me the 16 is adequate. For music I have a combination of music in Google play and the rest is stored on my sd card.
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Personally, I feel more space is always better, however, if you plan on filling the internal sdcard with 32GB of files, media, games, whatever, good luck if your phone takes a dive on you. I keep only games and apps on my 16GB internal then back them up with titanium backup on my 32GB extsdcard. I keep all of my files I don't want to lose there and backed up on my PC. As far as filling up your internal memory with games, the real question is, how long do you plan on hanging on to Plants vs Zombies? Just delete the games you're sick of and replace them with new ones. You'll have a newer, better phone before you ever start worrying about needing more space to save stuff on anyways. Besides, stuff on your phone that you haven't used or looked at in over a month should probably be deleted or stored away on a backup somewhere safe. Digital hoarding is a real problem a lot of us have to break.
think of it this way, it's ONLY $53 for double the storage. compare this to a few months ago and some other phones, they are $100 more for double capacity. i'd switch it if there are no other fees involved.
The real question should be whether or not you need more than 71gb of useable space on your phone. For the $53 difference plus $30 restocking fee you can wait for a good deal on Sandisk Ultra 64gb cards or buy it at normal internet price. Using external cards have the added benefit of securing your information in case your phone craps out our you mess up flashing a rom.
$53 these days can more than double your memory these days.
I have the 32GB version and glad I got it. Yes, $50 for basically 16GB is a rip-off compared to sd card prices. On the other hand, I'm already down to 15GB of free space. Now, I also havent' tried to save space. I have at least 2 full nandroids (one stock, and one customized), plus a bunch of games + data. I also haven't put in an sd card yet. However, I also haven't gone crazy trying to fill it up, so this is after fairly normal usage.
Disclaimer: if I had to pay another $30 restocking fee, I'd probably just try to live with it.
I went with a White 32GB from VZW. I got the day they launched, there was a promo through Best Buy Mobile that got 25% off. So it made sense to get it, it made it cheaper than the 16gb. but to answer the question, i wanted the 32gb. More storage, fast load times, and hope higher resale value in about 6-8 months..
I've never been charged a restocking fee.
You can never have enough space. Just go for it. It's one of those things where if it's on your mind to even consider a 32gb over the 16gb, just do it or it'll linger in your head and drive you crazy
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Well first they will charge a restocking fee. Second it should be fine with 16gb.. Of course it depends on usage. I personally have the blue 16gb with a 32gb class 10 samsung sd. Plenty for my needs. The only reason I would consider getting the 32gb is because the flash memory on the galaxy is WICKED fast... Loading times are great. I don't personally play too many games so for me the 16 is adequate. For music I have a combination of music in Google play and the rest is stored on my sd card.
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Thanks for everyone's advice
I opted for the 32gb today. I did have to pay a restocking fee....$50
I had an older phone returned where I was told they had a different size. this is a little different, but I may call or write Retention and see if it can be refunded
As far as some ideas to just go with the larger sd card in place of the phone storage, that was the initial problem, the reason is that I wanna put all the music on the phone, which is where it has to be in order to use the Music Square feature.....which I like
As far as the sd cards go, I hear different things. I hear that it does handle 64gb micro sd, but that the 32 is preferred, and you may have to jump thru hoops for it to work, at the very least format it on the phone
Is that right, the 32 is best?
(excuse my ignorance, maverick or anyone, how is 71gb calculated?)
Again, thanks everyone
eric0668 said:
Thanks for everyone's advice
I opted for the 32gb today. I did have to pay a restocking fee....$50
I had an older phone returned where I was told they had a different size. this is a little different, but I may call or write Retention and see if it can be refunded
As far as some ideas to just go with the larger sd card in place of the phone storage, that was the initial problem, the reason is that I wanna put all the music on the phone, which is where it has to be in order to use the Music Square feature.....which I like
As far as the sd cards go, I hear different things. I hear that it does handle 64gb micro sd, but that the 32 is preferred, and you may have to jump thru hoops for it to work, at the very least format it on the phone
Is that right, the 32 is best?
(excuse my ignorance, maverick or anyone, how is 71gb calculated?)
Again, thanks everyone
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I've got a 16 gig phone. Installed the all my apps on the internal SD card and I still have 10 of the 12 gig left. I doubt I'll ever have 12 gigs of apps.
I just bought a Sandisk 64 gig card, plugged it in and started copying file to it. No Hoops. The S3 can use native xD format cards. The card was $54 delivered from Amazon. So, 59 actual gigs on the Ext card, plus 12 actual gigs on the int card, that's 71 actual gigs. Is that enough? It is for me.
Also remember that internal memory is generally faster than external memory.
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Get the 32gb if you haven't already. I was going for the 16gb but fit the extra $50 32 was more than worth it. You can never have too much space!
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I hinestly have all my music on my ext card and i have no issues... thats the whole point of that thing fir me is to hold my music videos and pictures... got a 32gig which is plenty. My gs3 is the 16 gig and anything that was internal i have moved to the external (related to media) and i have no problem accessing it with anything. I use google music and the miui music player for audio. And then video. Its whatever came with the phone.. lol i think google play movies or something
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I've got a 16 gig phone. Installed the all my apps on the internal SD card and I still have 10 of the 12 gig left. I doubt I'll ever have 12 gigs of apps.
I just bought a Sandisk 64 gig card, plugged it in and started copying file to it. No Hoops. The S3 can use native xD format cards. The card was $54 delivered from Amazon. So, 59 actual gigs on the Ext card, plus 12 actual gigs on the int card, that's 71 actual gigs. Is that enough? It is for me.
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Thanks Poit...unless you're buying all the latest bubblegum / boi band music and getting made fun of by your adult male friends lmao.... aka One Direction (awesome cd by the way)
btw I think I saw that amazon link posted on here. I may look into, just to have max space
Space to move on the phone helps the speed (question), but space on the sd card does not help the speed correct?
Like I said, i wanna use music square, where there is no choice but to have the media on the phone, not the sd card
I would consider using Google Play again, especially stored in the 'cloud' if you will (is that a generic term now), but when you play it from there it is considered 'streaming' and uses your data, correct? needs to be stored on the phone/or sd card to not be considered streaming and using data?
So I pre-ordered a 32GB white version from Best Buy. They didn't have it on the 10th so I went ahead and bought a black one to tide me over. But I'm getting impatient for my white one.
Still not in at Best Buy. I'm told that they won't be in next week either.
But they have a white 16GB. I'm seriously considering buying it along with a 64 GB micro SD card and just call it a day.
My question is, is there any performance difference between the 2 storage sizes? Or does it just affect strict storage space.
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So I pre-ordered a 32GB white version from Best Buy. They didn't have it on the 10th so I went ahead and bought a black one to tide me over. But I'm getting impatient for my white one.
Still not in at Best Buy. I'm told that they won't be in next week either.
But they have a white 16GB. I'm seriously considering buying it along with a 64 GB micro SD card and just call it a day.
My question is, is there any performance difference between the 2 storage sizes? Or does it just affect strict storage space.
Thanks,
Han Solo
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There isn't any performance differences between the two. Unlike the nand that is used in SSDs, the storage used doesn't necessarily degrade when getting filling it up.
Just storage space. I'd hang for the 32 if you can. Don't do something rash just to have it today when in a few months you'll probably wish for more space.
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Han... I agree with Wing on this one... I have a 32 gig note and I'm utilizing 10 gigs of it as of today. By the way, none of which are pictures or video, or for that matter too many games. I have a 64 gig sd card that I put my movies and pictures on.
So again, I'm utilizing 10 gigs out of the 32 gig storage that I have, that's just me, but if I were you I would wait for the 32 gig version
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I would just have them ship it to the store and have them call you when it gets there. That way you don't have to pay for shipping, and can take advantage of the Best Buy return policies. There wouldn't be a performance issue based on the storage size. You've waited this long for the tablet to come out, what is a couple more days to wait for shipping? Play some GTA or watch some football till then. Life doesn't seize to exist because of a tablet.
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Just storage space. I'd hang for the 32 if you can. Don't do something rash just to have it today when in a few months you'll probably wish for more space.
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Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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I disagree. It's $50 difference between 16 and 32 GB. You can break it down like this; If you keep and use the tablet for 24 months, it's an extra $2 a month!
I don't like moving apps to external memory, since not all apps support this feature. When I had my 16GB S4, I was constantly removing apps to make way for new apps. I hated that..
Also, the note does not have 16GB available to the user; it's more like 10GB.
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I disagree. It's $50 difference between 16 and 32 GB. You can break it down like this; If you keep and use the tablet for 24 months, it's an extra $2 a month!
I don't like moving apps to external memory, since not all apps support this feature. When I had my 16GB S4, I was constantly removing apps to make way for new apps. I hated that..
Also, the note does not have 16GB available to the user; it's more like 10GB.
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So store all your files and whatnot on the external. You'd have to have hundreds and hundreds of apps to use up the full internal just on those.
Fifty bucks. You can get a 64gb micro SD card shipped for that. Keep all your media on there, apps on the internal, and for the same price you have 2.5x the storage.
The only way I ever filled up my s3 was downloading all my rdio music onto it. How could you possibly be filling up the device from apps? I've never in my Android life had so many apps I needed to move them to the card.
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So store all your files and whatnot on the external. You'd have to have hundreds and hundreds of apps to use up the full internal just on those.
Fifty bucks. You can get a 64gb micro SD card shipped for that. Keep all your media on there, apps on the internal, and for the same price you have 2.5x the storage.
The only way I ever filled up my s3 was downloading all my rdio music onto it. How could you possibly be filling up the device from apps? I've never in my Android life had so many apps I needed to move them to the card.
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You assume folks that buy the 32GB note, won't spring for a 64GB card as well?!
Case in point, GTA Vice City is 1.4GB.
Anyways, if 16GB works for you, then cool.:good:
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You assume folks that buy the 32GB note, won't spring for a 64GB card as well?!
Case in point, GTA Vice City is 1.4GB.
Anyways, if 16GB works for you, then cool.:good:
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Not at all. I'm saying that MOST people have no need for 96GB of storage and could save money by getting the 16 and a card of whatever size they'd like. It bugs me when people are stubbornly insisting that they NEED to spend more money on something when they don't.
Okay, so you install Vice City and five more copies of it, and that still leaves you with about a gig and a half to do whatever with. Put all your music/movies/downloads/documents/whatever on the external and bingo bango you saved money AND had more space.
What SHOULD happen in Android is that they embrace external storage and make it easier to put stuff on the external card. What happens INSTEAD is we end up reinforcing the "tiered storage size" model like Apple and next thing you know more tablets and phones have NO external storage, and it costs $100 extra just to go up 16GB in size.
I'm not arguing this just because it's the internet and I like being contrary, it's because I really do have a reason to be promoting people getting the smaller model plus microSD.
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Not at all. I'm saying that MOST people have no need for 96GB of storage and could save money by getting the 16 and a card of whatever size they'd like. It bugs me when people are stubbornly insisting that they NEED to spend more money on something when they don't.
Okay, so you install Vice City and five more copies of it, and that still leaves you with about a gig and a half to do whatever with. Put all your music/movies/downloads/documents/whatever on the external and bingo bango you saved money AND had more space.
What SHOULD happen in Android is that they embrace external storage and make it easier to put stuff on the external card. What happens INSTEAD is we end up reinforcing the "tiered storage size" model like Apple and next thing you know more tablets and phones have NO external storage, and it costs $100 extra just to go up 16GB in size.
I'm not arguing this just because it's the internet and I like being contrary, it's because I really do have a reason to be promoting people getting the smaller model plus microSD.
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dude, you're posting on XDA, not android4newbs. Most of us are power users who want and use more space.
If 16GB works for you, then cool. If someone wants to spend $50 for another 16GB, I don't see how that would bug you.
I'm the biggest fan of removable storage - That's why I choose Samsung, but preaching to all that MOST don't need more than 16GB because YOU don't use more than 16GB is just silly.
Also $50 is relative. To me $550 vs. $600 is not that big of a deal.
Cheers!:good:
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dude, you're posting on XDA, not android4newbs. Most of us are power users who want and use more space.
If 16GB works for you, then cool. If someone wants to spend $50 for another 16GB, I don't see how that would bug you.
I'm the biggest fan of removable storage - That's why I choose Samsung, but preaching to all that MOST don't need more than 16GB because YOU don't use more than 16GB is just silly.
Also $50 is relative. To me $550 vs. $600 is not that big of a deal.
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You're 100% right. I was speaking more toward someone who thinks 16GB isn't enough and wants 32. If you want 32, save a couple bucks and get the card. If you need ALL the space, then yeah get the 32 and a 64 card, but unless you need 96GB why spend the extra money?
$50 is definitely relative. I mean I have the Note instead of the Nexus because even though I'm not a massive stylus user I like having the option and the extra cost wasn't enough for me to mind, but I stuck with the 16 because I -reaaaaaally- feel like for 95% of users it's a smarter buy to get less included storage and add a card.
There's an added benefit, too. Let's say I buy a 16GB model and a 64GB card. Then in a year a new model comes out. I can once AGAIN get the 16GB model and stick my card in there. So not only did I save $50+ on the current one, but I saved it on the next one. It's savings that add up, and afford me the opportunity to get new devices! :laugh:
But again, it's about getting what YOU need. I'm sure some of you guys really DO need massive storage, in which case I really look forward for the day when these bad boys can take 128's.
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You're 100% right. I was speaking more toward someone who thinks 16GB isn't enough and wants 32. If you want 32, save a couple bucks and get the card. If you need ALL the space, then yeah get the 32 and a 64 card, but unless you need 96GB why spend the extra money?
$50 is definitely relative. I mean I have the Note instead of the Nexus because even though I'm not a massive stylus user I like having the option and the extra cost wasn't enough for me to mind, but I stuck with the 16 because I -reaaaaaally- feel like for 95% of users it's a smarter buy to get less included storage and add a card.
There's an added benefit, too. Let's say I buy a 16GB model and a 64GB card. Then in a year a new model comes out. I can once AGAIN get the 16GB model and stick my card in there. So not only did I save $50+ on the current one, but I saved it on the next one. It's savings that add up, and afford me the opportunity to get new devices! :laugh:
But again, it's about getting what YOU need. I'm sure some of you guys really DO need massive storage, in which case I really look forward for the day when these bad boys can take 128's.
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Hmm. I still don't understand why you would think someone who buys the 32GB Note wouldn't put a MicroSD card in it as well?
Also your cost savings analogy doesn't make any sense--but i'm sure you were just joking.
Let's set aside microSD cards aside for a bit.. Anyway you split it; it's $50 bucks difference between the 16GB/32GB model. for someone like me, it's money well spent.
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Hmm. I still don't understand why you would think someone who buys the 32GB Note wouldn't put a MicroSD card in it as well?
Also your cost savings analogy doesn't make any sense--but i'm sure you were just joking.
Let's set aside microSD cards aside for a bit.. Anyway you split it; it's $50 bucks difference between the 16GB/32GB model. for someone like me, it's money well spent.
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I had a lot more typed, but then I thought back on it and you do make a damn good point. Once you're over $500 it starts to turn kinda irrelevant, LOL. No matter how you slice it, I have NEVER been happier with a tech purchase. I actually was unsure I wanted a tablet AT ALL before I got the 2012 version of the Note 10.1, and that was awesome enough, but the new one? Sublime. 16 or 32, whatever. Buy it, enjoy. Is it perfect? Naw. Better than any other tablet I've played with? By a long shot. I used this thing side by side with the Nexus 10 and don't wish I'd gone the other way in the slightest.
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I had a lot more typed, but then I thought back on it and you do make a damn good point. Once you're over $500 it starts to turn kinda irrelevant, LOL. No matter how you slice it, I have NEVER been happier with a tech purchase. I actually was unsure I wanted a tablet AT ALL before I got the 2012 version of the Note 10.1, and that was awesome enough, but the new one? Sublime. 16 or 32, whatever. Buy it, enjoy. Is it perfect? Naw. Better than any other tablet I've played with? By a long shot. I used this thing side by side with the Nexus 10 and don't wish I'd gone the other way in the slightest.
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Dude, definitely agree on that!!!:good::laugh:
I was debating on the Nexus 10 as well, as I really wanted the high resolution display on *any* new tablet.
Im so glad I sprung for the '14 model. The Samsung perks was a nice touch as well.
Anyways, enjoy!:good:
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Dude, definitely agree on that!!!:good::laugh:
I was debating on the Nexus 10 as well, as I really wanted the high resolution display on *any* new tablet.
Im so glad I sprung for the '14 model. The Samsung perks was a nice touch as well.
Anyways, enjoy!:good:
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You made the right choice, yeah. Is it just me or does the Nexus 10 feel like a Fisher Price toy by comparison? The 2014 feels like an executive briefcase to me, the Nexus 10 is a high school backpack. I hate the rubber back on it and the rounded corners. Seriously I opened the box of the 2014 up and was just like "oooohhh god I want to hold it even when it's not on."
I sold my Nexus 10 two weeks ago to get this and I'm so glad i did. This is definitely THE tablet to get now and it's a night and day difference compared to the Nexus 10.
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Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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Too many apps just don't take advantage of SD card abilities. SNote and Evernote are perfect examples. My Lecture Notes folder on my SD card is already at 1GB. After taking the system into account the 16 you should have 10GB available before use. That's really not that much. The 32GB model only gives you 26GB to start with. And yes I also have a 64GB card.
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I'm getting one tomorrow and was also debating the 16 vs 32 question. But then I was checking out local stock in my area online and most stores are only selling the 32GB version. Problem solved, lol.
I should just listen to my own advice - I always tell people it's better to have more storage than you need, rather than "just enough". And in this case, a $50 difference isn't really that much.
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Too many apps just don't take advantage of SD card abilities. SNote and Evernote are perfect examples. My Lecture Notes folder on my SD card is already at 1GB. After taking the system into account the 16 you should have 10GB available before use. That's really not that much. The 32GB model only gives you 26GB to start with. And yes I also have a 64GB card.
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You can change the lecture notes folder in the lecture notes settings
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IMO, you probably won't see it for a while. There's no announcement on when they will release it. However, to be fair the device has expendable memory. In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
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IMO, you probably won't see it for a while. There's no announcement on when they will release it. However, to be fair the device has expendable memory. In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it. I doubt Verizon will add a 32gb version. Especially with the camera failures. Verizon is probably mentally reaming Samsung behind the scenes. Not a good scenario for adding another model anytime soon if ever.
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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it.
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While that's true you still have access to 9GB of the built in storage. It's hard to imagine anyone loading 9GB worth of apps on their device. Not to mention generally speaking storage space is taken up by media (photo, music, videos, etc) which removable storage is perfect for.
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While that's true you still have access to 9GB of the built in storage. It's hard to imagine anyone loading 9GB worth of apps on their device. Not to mention generally speaking storage space is taken up by media (photo, music, videos, etc) which removable storage is perfect for.
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Imagination is relative to device use. I have a 32gb S4 and have 7gb free. Also have a 128gb card with 30gb free. MP3, video and game roms fill that up.
Factor in sd cards are now limited in function with 3rd party apps, the internal storage becomes more relevant in need.
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Imagination is relative to device use. I have a 32gb S4 and have 7gb free. Also have a 128gb card with 30gb free. MP3, video and game roms fill that up.
Factor in sd cards are now limited in function with 3rd party apps, the internal storage becomes more relevant in need.
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Well said, and one persons acceptable internal storage is anthers unacceptable internal storage. You get 10.7 GB of storage and you know what its not enough for me. I had a GN3 32GB until I returned it today. Comes with 25GB of usable space, I load apps and I am down to 22.8GB of usable space. So you are thinking he only uses 2.2GB of apps, and you know what that is correct . . . for today. I could d/l a ton of larger apps, like Dead Trigger 2, MC4, NOVA3, etc, etc and quickly eat up space. I should not be required to accept a lesser storage option because an OEM and/or carrier is lazy, greedy and inefficient in managing their inventory.
AT&T will very likley offer it, and very likely well before Verizon does and if they do I am on them like stink on a skunk.
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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it. I doubt Verizon will add a 32gb version. Especially with the camera failures. Verizon is probably mentally reaming Samsung behind the scenes. Not a good scenario for adding another model anytime soon if ever.
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Since Verizon is the only one with the camera failure I would suspect Verizons bloatware is the cause so samsung may ne mentally reaming verizon.
Lodaserves said:
I hope they will release 32gb with a low price.LOL
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Expect the 32GB to cost at least $50 more than the 16GB which is why they should just do away with the 16GB in the US, EU, Asian markets and keep the 16GB for the markets where price is a major issue.
I apologize if this seems like a noob question, so we can't move apps to the SD card?
I haven't really checked but all the games and apps I've downloaded I thought I was moving to the SD card to save space. They say they're on the SD card. I was just wondering if there were any shenanigans going on. It's my old sd card from my other phone until I upgrade to a faster one.
I really had no idea you couldn't do that anymore. Makes me want root even more now.
Not sure we will see a 32GB version. Last year around now (in relation to launch date of S4) I was told a 32GB was coming via our corporate rep (person is also a regional trainer), but this time zero information. The camera issue though has VZW spooked, so this make the rep think that issue alone could result in no new models.
I am one of the more vocal fans for 32GB and always look at the Dumb & Dumber million to one chance. Not looking as good this time around compared to the S4. Maybe when they figure out the camera issue and sales start slowing on the 16GB version they will add one. That is 110% conjecture.
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I apologize if this seems like a noob question, so we can't move apps to the SD card?
I haven't really checked but all the games and apps I've downloaded I thought I was moving to the SD card to save space. They say they're on the SD card. I was just wondering if there were any shenanigans going on. It's my old sd card from my other phone until I upgrade to a faster one.
I really had no idea you couldn't do that anymore. Makes me want root even more now.
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Nevermind, it just creates new folders with nothing in them. Only thing sd card is good for is pictures, roms, and music. I didn't even notice at first.....
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In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
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How does the that help with apps? People that want the 32gb have more apps than will fit on the 10gb free on the 16gb model. With root looking dubious or at least a real pain to achieve, the only stable solution for apps and Kitkat is to be installed in the internal storage.
If you do not have many apps, no harm no foul and enjoy the model with about 15gb less app storage. Some will not since have more than 10gb of apps that fit on the 16gb model.
Still not a peep from Verizon corporate reps, but last year we knew already by this time in the launch window. Perhaps not happening, but based on the lack of interest here, perhaps no harm no foul for folks here.