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I have tried various ROMs and some of them are quite good. However for reasons not entirely clear to me, the authors of these ROMs, in addition to adding some much needed functional improvements, decide to blingify/theme their ROMs in such a way that there is no easy way to go back to Stock Samsung theme.
Some of us are just looking to add functionality and not looking to change the look.
Why don't the ROM authors provide a theme separately for their ROMs
I agree, I love all the tweaks and functionality, but I also like the look of the stock rom. Options for themes would be great.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Then just try a deodexed version of froyo...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036193
I think its more wise to ask the devs if they wouldnt mind making a stock theme for you to add to thier rom....due to the fact that they build thier roms primarily to suite them and then share it with you...ever think of it that way?
not flaming you,i would love a stock 2.1 theme to go along with one of these well built 2.2-2.2.1 roms but you have to keep in mind this is work that takes them away from other finer things in life that they are'nt paid to do
there is a touchwiz theme for bionix
...and a TouchWiz theme for Trigger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042282
It's completely relative. For me the Trigger theme is much cleaner (less bling) and better looking than the stock TouchWiz theme. Same for the stock Gingerbread theme that Bionix uses.
>Same for the stock Gingerbread theme that Bionix uses.
I would have been happy with stock Gingerbread theme on Bionix, if they did not take much liberties with it. Like making everything appear extra blue.
> there is a touchwiz theme for bionix
Thanks. I had hoped that something like this would exist. But did not find it earlier. From the screenshots, it looks good and I will most certainly give it a shot.
Most 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms around here already have a stock theme. Malice, Trigger, Bi-Winning to name a few. Others like Heathen's roms are actually built on an improved stock theme.
If you adore such a theme that much try requesting it from your rom's dev or simply jump ships to another rom that fits your eyes. Just don't go all kong foo on devs around here blaming them for what ain't even their fault. At least blame the one responsible, not generically on the whole community.
Hi guys,
Like many of you, I've tested lots of different ROMs. After all, that's the beauty of owning a Google Phone.
However, I can't seem to find ONE ROM that fits all my needs. I was wondering how many of you would like something like this:
- Stock-based
- MIUI notification bar toggles (Cyanogen's would also be fine though)
- Battery Percentage Icon
- Themable (AOSP)
- Compatible with most kernels out there (so that we can choose whichever we want)
- No copyrighted things from other devices (ie. ringtones, apps, etc.)
I've yet to find a ROM that suits all these needs. Cyanogen is not stable or smooth enough to my liking, when compared to the stock experience. MUIU is beautiful, but a bit heavy and not really optimized for SAMOLED (even the darker theme uses very little pure black). Most of the other ROMs don't have notification bar toggles. The ones that do are based on Cyanogen or MUIU, so it's not much different from using one or the other.
The closest ROM I've seen to this is Amethyst, but it's been discontinued by the developer, and it's a bit limited on the notification toggle options. Heck, MIUI is perfect with so many toggles all easily accessible from the notification bar.
Does anyone else feel that way? Maybe if enough people would be into this, perhaps a developer could feel it's worth doing something like that. Or am I alone in my wishes?
Regards!
I too have went through a ton of roms on this phone, and the one that i keep coming back too is the NSCollab series of roms (currently on 1.0.43). it has the stock launcher so it is really smooth and has the app drawer that i love, also has notification buttons and other settings from cyanogen. You can also flash the theme chooser to have a few different looks to the rom, but the best thing i have like about it is that its really stable and fluid
Zuluzulu might be what you are looking for. Its really cool looking and stable. The batterylife is incredible, and it is clockable to 1.4 ghz since it use the netarchy kernel.
CM even the latest RC 1 consumes all my battery in less than 24 hours.
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lfmmoura said:
Hi guys,
Like many of you, I've tested lots of different ROMs. After all, that's the beauty of owning a Google Phone.
However, I can't seem to find ONE ROM that fits all my needs. I was wondering how many of you would like something like this:
- Stock-based
- MIUI notification bar toggles (Cyanogen's would also be fine though)
- Battery Percentage Icon
- Themable (AOSP)
- Compatible with most kernels out there (so that we can choose whichever we want)
- No copyrighted things from other devices (ie. ringtones, apps, etc.)
I've yet to find a ROM that suits all these needs. Cyanogen is not stable or smooth enough to my liking, when compared to the stock experience. MUIU is beautiful, but a bit heavy and not really optimized for SAMOLED (even the darker theme uses very little pure black). Most of the other ROMs don't have notification bar toggles. The ones that do are based on Cyanogen or MUIU, so it's not much different from using one or the other.
The closest ROM I've seen to this is Amethyst, but it's been discontinued by the developer, and it's a bit limited on the notification toggle options. Heck, MIUI is perfect with so many toggles all easily accessible from the notification bar.
Does anyone else feel that way? Maybe if enough people would be into this, perhaps a developer could feel it's worth doing something like that. Or am I alone in my wishes?
Regards!
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You can flash the systemui.apk that I made over a stock rom and get the notification toggles and still be able to theme the phone but be ware if you flash a theme copy the drawables to your system ui or loose the toggles. Its in nexus a themes and apps
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Do you prefer CyanogenMod or MIUI based on the current versions available to the fascinate, and why?
CM7 because of the Theme Chooser. There are at least 200+ themes and you can find more in Android Theme forum.
MIUI has cool lockscreen tho...
MIUI becausr online theme AND editing. I dont have to download a whole theme and flash to change on little thing. If a theme has a messaging app theme i like i can apply it easily with no reboots or flashing. even bootscreens. Also full system backup and restore built in.. When i tried cm7 the theme chooser only showed like 4 themes and there where all a bit too vanilla for me. MIUI lets me fel more like its my ui
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xelsewherex said:
MIUI becausr online theme AND editing. I dont have to download a whole theme and flash to change on little thing. If a theme has a messaging app theme i like i can apply it easily with no reboots or flashing. even bootscreens. Also full system backup and restore built in.. When i tried cm7 the theme chooser only showed like 4 themes and there where all a bit too vanilla for me. MIUI lets me fel more like its my ui
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This +1, the theming engine is garbage on cm7 compared to MIUI. Both are ridiculously smooth with way better performance over touchwiz-based roms but MIUI is a whole different beast. MIUI not only offers the performance of cm7 but also adds more features and way better looks. Miui is like a whole different os compared to any other rom on android. But in the end I suggest you try both and decide which you like better yourself.
Ive tried both and I am still on the edge I love both of them MIUI is unique unto itself the launcher is smooth and very clean. CM7 gives you that clean raw android look but i am leaning on going back to MIUI because of the theme engine. True it does take some getting used to but once you are going you are going.
Another factor, depending on how flash-happy you are, cm7 is currently getting more spontaneous development because jt releases fixes & updates as they occur, not just once a week. Although andmer is very responsive as well, the changes only seem to be incorporated in the general build on a weekly basis.
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Another factor, depending on how flash-happy you are, cm7 is currently getting more spontaneous development because jt releases fixes & updates as they occur, not just once a week. Although andmer is very responsive as well, the changes only seem to be incorporated in the general build on a weekly basis
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Actually.... We recieved a patch for the sensors last build from andmer and 2 this week for in call and ril update. We are usually only a day behind jt's releases. The weekly update is the miui framework updates themselves
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Question, can you just flash MIUI over CM7 with "only" wiping dalvik cache? What about CM7 over MIUI?
I flashed MIUI directly over CM7 and it worked fine, make sure to wipe your cache and make backups because if you have problems then a full data wipe is the easiest fix.
In response to OP, you won't be disappointed with either one. They are both very smooth and have great battery life. Kernel works the same for both so either way you get voodoo sound and overclock and everything else if you use OTB. The only differences are mainly in the UI, CM is more vanilla android and most themes just recolor things. With theming CM7 you usually get just different colors and slightly different look to the phone but usually more things will be themed. With MIUI right now you can theme a whole lot more and customize your own theme by theming individual items, which is really cool but there are a lot of UI elements that currently don't change no matter what theme you use.
I bought an Android phone because I love the Android OS, and CM7 -- while it isn't pure AOSP -- is pretty darn close to Google's vision.
MIUI, on the other hand, while an amazing ROM in its own right, makes Android, well, less Android-y (and dare I say, more iOSy). That's not what I personally want for my Android phone. I like vanilla Gingerbread.
That hurts man.....that hurts.....
Falcyn said:
I bought an Android phone because I love the Android OS, and CM7 -- while it isn't pure AOSP -- is pretty darn close to Google's vision.
MIUI, on the other hand, while an amazing ROM in its own right, makes Android, well, less Android-y (and dare I say, more iOSy). That's not what I personally want for my Android phone. I like vanilla Gingerbread.
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but..... Miui's theme manager give you MORE options to make your ui MORE unique which is the opposite of ios........btw low blow saying Miui is anything like ios you should apologize to all Miui users and devs.
Junkboy0 said:
but..... Miui's theme manager give you MORE options to make your ui MORE unique which is the opposite of ios........btw low blow saying Miui is anything like ios you should apologize to all Miui users and devs.
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+1 totally agree except for the apologizing part lol
DroidBlaze said:
+1 totally agree except for the apologizing part lol
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lol I meant that last part as a joke
MIUI intentionally borrows a large number of design elements from iOS, so it's not insulting to point that out when the developers did it on purpose. That's also not a bad thing. What MIUI does is, in short, combine the best of iOS with the best of Android, and that's precisely why it's so successful. Like it or not, iOS is aesthetically very well designed, and Android has lagged behind in that regard. It wasn't until Gingerbread that Android even had a truly unified aesthetic.
Falcyn said:
MIUI intentionally borrows a large number of design elements from iOS, so it's not insulting to point that out when the developers did it on purpose. That's also not a bad thing. What MIUI does is, in short, combine the best of iOS with the best of Android, and that's precisely why it's so successful. Like it or not, iOS is aesthetically very well designed, and Android has lagged behind in that regard. It wasn't until Gingerbread that Android even had a truly unified aesthetic.
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While that is 100% true, I think the fact the Miui adds onto the "raw" CM7 build means that it makes it less like iOS as it's giving you more options in where iOS tries to limit you as much as possible. But that's the way I see it
Junkboy0 said:
While that is 100% true, I think the fact the Miui adds onto the "raw" CM7 build means that it makes it less like iOS as it's giving you more options in where iOS tries to limit you as much as possible. But that's the way I see it
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Why don't we just say its CM7 and iOS combined and move along? Gives you the freedom of Android with the look of iOS.
Case closed.
Falcyn said:
MIUI intentionally borrows a large number of design elements from iOS, so it's not insulting to point that out when the developers did it on purpose. That's also not a bad thing. What MIUI does is, in short, combine the best of iOS with the best of Android, and that's precisely why it's so successful. Like it or not, iOS is aesthetically very well designed, and Android has lagged behind in that regard. It wasn't until Gingerbread that Android even had a truly unified aesthetic.
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Everything you said is completely true; however, the reason I love MIUI is it's theming engine which is easily MIUI's biggest strength for anybody that likes to customize their phone. MIUI's theming engine is absolutely amazing. Also, I personally do not like the MIUI launcher due to it looking too much like iOS's launcher so I don't use it lol. This is what my homescreen and lockscreen currently look like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15325743&postcount=201 which could never have been easily done without being on MIUI. In the end though, to each his own.
DroidBlaze said:
Everything you said is completely true; however, the reason I love MIUI is it's theming engine which is easily MIUI's biggest strength for anybody that likes to customize their phone. MIUI's theming engine is absolutely amazing. Also, I personally do not like the MIUI launcher due to it looking too much like iOS's launcher so I don't use it lol. This is what my homescreen and lockscreen currently look like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15325743&postcount=201 which could never have been easily done without being on MIUI. In the end though, to each his own.
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I agree about the Launcher, I personally use Launcher pro Plus and that thing just flies with Miui.
i also think miui is too i os ish for me, didnt like it much, but could def see why ppl would, very snappy and user friendly
I personally prefer Cyanogenmod 7 over MIUI, but that's because I really like Gingerbread's UI and also because I'm a huge supporter of open source software, and the fact that MIUI won't release their source bugs me because if something is broken I can't go in and try to fix it...
I'm a big linux fanatic though.
I've never had a Nexus device before... so there was always a more significant difference between a stock ROM (ie. Sense-based) and CMxx. I expect the differences here to be a bit more subtle.
I am curious to know what features I'd get on a CM10-based ROM vs. what I get with a stock 4.1.2 build.
Probably best to stick with simple factual lists... ie. I'm not looking for a religious debate just an idea of the tradeoffs.
thanks!
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zim2dive said:
I've never had a Nexus device before... so there was always a more significant difference between a stock ROM (ie. Sense-based) and CMxx. I expect the differences here to be a bit more subtle.
I am curious to know what features I'd get on a CM10-based ROM vs. what I get with a stock 4.1.2 build.
Probably best to stick with simple factual lists... ie. I'm not looking for a religious debate just an idea of the tradeoffs.
thanks!
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Hey I had the same thoughts not too long ago so here is a(n incomplete) list of things I have noticed and enjoy or miss. So here goes
Advantages of CM
Camera power button hack plus other camera options
notification toggles (much like the new touchwiz)
built in sound profiles and quiet hours
Messaging app with expandable notification
more audio output options ie. DSP equaliser
cool lockscreen options
Advantages of stock
Built in document viewers (you don't notice how nice these are until you don't have them)
timely and stable updates OTA (for the most part, carriers excluded)
stock launcher is very smooth, more so in my opinion than the current CM launcher
I found CM laggy and frustrating (keep in mind this was on a nightly), YMMV but I'm back on stock now because of it
Like I say this is just my small experience but Stock has really come a long way and is a very full experience. But flashing ROMs is fun as well.
Disclaimer: I know what is the best for me and what I want to use. Don't flame me for the title, first read it please.
Let's say we have two options:
1. Stock ROM with applications that add functionality and possibly run in the background, e.g. Power Toggles or Lightflow,
2. Custom ROM with built-in tweaks, like a quick-settings mod or some kind of LED customization.
So, my question is: which is better in terms of everything (available RAM, battery, etc)? Stock software with running apps or custom built-ROM with modifications to the source files? Or are they equal basically? I'd vote for option 2, but honestly, I have no idea, that's why I'm asking. Technical details are welcomed as well as personal opinions.
Pipusz said:
Disclaimer: I know what is the best for me and what I want to use. Don't flame me for the title, first read it please.
Let's say we have two options:
1. Stock ROM with applications that add functionality and possibly run in the background, e.g. Power Toggles or Lightflow,
2. Custom ROM with built-in tweaks, like a quick-settings mod or some kind of LED customization.
So, my question is: which is better in terms of everything (available RAM, battery, etc)? Stock software with running apps or custom built-ROM with modifications to the source files? Or are they equal basically? I'd vote for option 2, but honestly, I have no idea, that's why I'm asking. Technical details are welcomed as well as personal opinions.
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When speaking of Nexus device, there is no real difference between custom and stock in terms of official apps and bloatware, because of its vanilla (pure android) nature.
The main difference is the ability to control and modify more sides of your ROM. This can easily lead to better performance, battery, and so on because you can customize it by your needs and use.
The only reason, IMO, to stay on stock is if you want automatic updates, remain warrenty Etc. In terms of performance and such it is recommended to flash a custom ROM.
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Why don't you just give it a try? They're free. Not like you can't go back.
zephiK said:
Why don't you just give it a try? They're free. Not like you can't go back.
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Meh, I'm happy with my current ROM, not trying anything. Just had too much time on the train to wonder
I take it you are speaking of approach. I prefer the first. Sure you can get more out of a custom rom, but it comes all at one time in a single flash and you might get things you don't want. I like customizing by installing apks, flashing mods, and applying themes. It is more enjoyable this way and I like the learning involved. Of course, this doesn't mean that I don't flash a custom rom now and then.
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I take it you are speaking of approach. I prefer the first. Sure you can get more out of a custom rom, but it comes all at one time in a single flash and you might get things you don't want. I like customizing by installing apks, flashing mods, and applying themes. It is more enjoyable this way and I like the learning involved. Of course, this doesn't mean that I don't flash a custom rom now and then.
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It is true that custom ROM's bring things that maybe you don't want, but that's why we should search for the correct ROM. In my case, I hate all the Hybrid stuff, so I keep myself far away from ROM's with this, but on the other hand I like Halo and Expanded Desktop. These 3 features are from PA, but I know I don't want this. What should I do?. Look for ROM with these 2. In my case, was Carbon, also because it has AOKP Ribbons which I find pretty interesting.
I think there are not many options about mods and customizations in stock. There is a whole world of possibilities about apps, but certain things cannot be done with stock, so I prefer most of the time custom ROM. Right now I'm on pure AOSP 4.3 and I'm really enjoying the pure Android experience, although I miss some of the modifications of custom ROM's.
@Pipusz
I think myself: why bother to get like 10 apps to make something, when you can have them as part of system?.