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Trying to decide on a ROM

CM6.1 or MIUI (probably Rod's).
I do like the look of MIUI but I'd rather have the fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality.
These are both looking very good indeed these days.
So which one and why?

try them both a decide for yourself that's what its all about...you r just gonna get back and forth comments/bickering asking a question like that in here..try searching next time

Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong

You won't get many replies.
WHY?
Everyone will most likely tell you to just try it yourself.
Every ROM in my sig has proven to be stable. I like to try different ones out.
As long as you are rooted, and have a custom recovery installed, nothing is stopping you from doing a nandroid backup and playing with a new ROM.
"fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality."
That's all up to you. What you may consider "greatest functionality" may be bloat to someone else.
Personally, I really liked MIUI by Rodriquez.

ksc6000 said:
Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong
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Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.

why not cm 6 R2 ? (or nightlys)

If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.

I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.

cpm said:
Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.
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Geo's ROM's are great, I had one for quite a while. I don't know why you're getting issues with Enom's ROM, but it is very very stable. That's the reason people who use it, use it over CM. My uptime on my phone gets up to 100 hours without any force closes or issues, and even then it's me, I'm just flashing something else or changing a feature which requires reboot.

Geo's roms have been light, fast & very stable for me!

codesplice said:
I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.
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Yes, I love Kang-o-rama

Well I tried the MIUI one (Rod's) and it just rebooted on me for no reason today.
Looks like it's CM6.1 next for me.
I was using Geo's then I got a message saying it wanted to do an update, then failed, but I could not get rid of that message.
Perhaps I should have got a Desire as I do like Sense, but the Sense ROM for the N1 was not stable IMO.

I'm using Rod's MIUIMOD 1.9.1(with wildmonks kernel) and never had a single reboot or stability problem.
Also, i've tried Enomther and MicroMOD's(also the Desire SuperHybrid) ROMs, and they were stable for me.
If all were unstable in your case, then maybe you're doing something wrong.
Did you for example wipe three times from recovery before flashing a completely different ROM?
In the past i've also had stability problems when using titanium backup to restore settings, so keep that in mind.
Also, you could try to use different kernel with somewhat higher voltage ( wildmonks for example http://wildmonks.whoisthedrizzle.com/kernel/2.6.35/112610/Custom_Kernels/ ).
Most ROM"s use kernel which are slightly under-volted to increase battery life(1050mv is the default stock kernel voltage if I remember correctly), but some devices don't like the lower voltages.

Should be clear, I never tried the ones you mentioned, it was the NXsense one I tried - it had a few silly little bugs but nothing major, just enough to be somewhat annoying.
Yes I do wipe, and am using the wildmonks kernel now.

I'm using stock MIUI with english pack and in my opinion...is more stable and smoother than CM 6.1... I check out CM rom yesterday and the ADW launcher still sucks..and Launcher Pro haven't adjust very well with some of the new effects and setting that CM have put in...my opinion MIUI stock..(not Rods Rom) with english pack...way better for now...and if you are a Launcher Pro fan...works awesome with MIUI....just my opinion
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IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.

SamUserInterface said:
If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.
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Why is the theming awesome? I have yet to see a MIUI theme that themed the whole ROM. The ugly dialer, MMS and Contacts app are always left out. Most of the themes are just icons and wallpaper.
As to the UI if it is so great why do most use Launcher Pro with it. To me... JMHO it looks like Windows 3.1 with a splash of color

DarkDvr said:
IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.
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Yup!
Windows 3.1 with a bunch of apps that look like the team never had a meeting

Definitely enomther's the official.
Tried CM, was ok, a tad unstable at times and I'm not a nightly person. If you want a rom to use for at least a month, don't use something that doesn't have a Final build and has to undergo nightly revisions. I got sick of having to flash CM everytime a nightly comes out.
I dislike MIUI. Enough said. Up to personal preference. Really dislike the iphoney crap.
If you want a somewhat stable sense rom, I recommend Evil's NXSense.
Like most others here have said, you gotta try them out to decide.

I originally tried a bunch of Roms and didn't like all the "bloat". I settled on Geo's rom because it basically is a pre-rooted and ready to go stock rom with some little bonuses.
After a while I tried MIUI's because of the newer UI. I quickly lost interest with the quirky lockscreen, phone, and messaging apps. I used Launcher Pro as I hate the cluttered iPhone desktop. Dialer Oned out the phone from the same lack of dial-by name and quirky facebook intergration. I tried Stock MIUI and Rods (I liked Rods).
Then I settled on CM6.1 which had the nice customizable dropdown menu toggles, taskbar color modifications, and additional features that were available.
Since I've seen the new MIUI theming capabilities but I don't think I'm quite ready to switch from CM's. I use the nightlies now and I'm now using a lot of the tweaks that I know I will ultimately regret on other roms.
But this is the perk of a Nexus. I just download and keep a bunch of roms on my phone's SD card... able to switch to whatever in minutes. Thus don't be afraid to do the same.
Also what I've learned is that no matter what rom you use, once you install Dialer One and Launcher Pro... they all feel the same aside from the little perks one may offer over the other.

MIUI or CM7? AOSP Rom...

Looking to install an aosp rom on my friends incredible, wondering which is the fastest and stable

this has been debated millions of times and will continue to be. MIUI has never been nice to me. CM7 has always been my phones home, and i havent flashed anything to my phone in about 3 weeks, and i can tell you that its the most stable ive ever had my phone. nightly 181.

Different people have different tastes, try em both out and see which one your friend likes more.

I'll second CM I haven't flashed anything since I got it.

thanks guys

MIUI has more UI tweak options and themes. CM7 is more stable and has better ROM tweaks and such.
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Miui is great. Fast. Stable. And battery is the best I've ever had. My question is which is better miui or stock and why?
I've weighed some reasons but like both. Thoughts?
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Okay, both of them are very stable and mature ROM's.
However CM7 leads in the majority of the Incredible's development.
MIUI has used many parts from CM7 to make it the ROM it is now.
MIUI has it's own custom UI implemented that tends to run a little sluggish as well.
CM7 is quicker and more solid, however it is pretty bare UI-wise. There are tons of options to customize it though:
-Android kitchen (google it!)
-Widget locker
-Custom Launcher (Launcher Pro+ ftw)
-Custom Icons/Dock background (easy to do with LP+)
and loadddss more
MIUI is a nice package and still is superb on battery, stability and performance.

While MIUI does run sluggish with he stock launcher all you have to do is replace it with a custom launcher and its as smooth as anything else. Ill second the issue that I get great battery life even better so than I did on CM7. One big feature for me since I work night shift is MIUIs ability to use the do not disturb feature. I haven't find even a third party app that comes close to the simplicity of this feature. Just my 2 cents

Miui has ran pretty good for me, but I am always changing roms

I don't find MIUI to be sluggish with the stock launcher, what in specific are you guys referring to that find it "slower" than CM7 / 3rd part launchers?

I typically end up jumping back and forth between MIUI and CM7, both run fast and are smooth. MIUI is based off CM7, so the performance should be similar.
Although MIUI is much more visually polished, it sometimes seems a bit gimmicky and a bit iph*ne ish. Both ROMs are great, I would say flash both and see, I still find myself jumping between these two ROMs quite often.

IMO, the iPhone-ish comment is misplaced. I thought the same thing at first. There are enough themes out there that you can make your MIUI look like sense. I have been running MIUI since June. I get some frustrating FC's from time to time but it has not been bad enough to make me change.

k_nivesout said:
I don't find MIUI to be sluggish with the stock launcher, what in specific are you guys referring to that find it "slower" than CM7 / 3rd part launchers?
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I don't find it to be sluggish either. Every once in a while, after reading people gush about CM7, I'll go back and give it a try, but IMO, MIUI is by far the better ROM. I experience no force closes and/or bugs, the ROM is very fast, the battery life is awesome, the theming is great and simple (love Phazed Orange), updates are regular and a no-brainer to apply, and I love the MIUI launcher. The only thing that the ROM lacks that I would like is the ability to use scrolling widgets.

When I had my incredible it was cm7 all day everyday... the rom is quick... customization need I say more than T-Mobile theme chooser pre installed.. there are themes on the market from team carbon that actually will theme essentially everything on your phone to one color.. for example I used the blood red and poison green themes. They theme the whole interface of the phone.. most thorough themes I have ever used by a longshot.. however u will eventually find what u like best.. the great thing about the incredible is there r tons of roms to choose from.. have fun!!
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In my experience MIUI eats more battery life. Also I just feel that CM7 was more user friendly in my experience certain things were hard to find and took getting used to in MIUI in my opinion

Chiming in a little late, but I'm all about CM7 right now. Very fast and stable (from my experience).
For me, CM7 has great battery life, gives me the stock Android experience I want and generally offers a good balance of performance and features while remaining stable.
(Just my 2 cents).
Nothing against Miui, in fact I'll give it another shot down the road and see if it sticks.

MIUI uses cm7's kernels so you are getting the same battery life. As for miui being sluggish? That is just silly.
MIUI's built in theme manager lets you browse themes from the app itself and gives you the option to mix and match your themes to make them look just how you want.

I have used both and prefer CM. However I wanted to try some others so I started looking back at some of the Sense based ROMs. I have been running Nils Business GingerSense 3.5 for about a week and like the look of it, but so miss all the customizing I could do with CM. Always looking for something better though...

Cm7 for me. I am philosophically opposed to MIUI's taking from open source and releasing closed source. Even if it's legal I find it distasteful.
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Comparison

Hello,
I finally purchased a ZTE Blade.
After looking around for a suitable rom to put on my device, I can't decide which one it will be.
Since I like to do things good the first time, I don't want to try out all the roms.
I have been looking for a few hours now to find a comparison of the roms, but I can't seem to find one.
I have narrowed it down to 5 options, all with their pro's and cons:
Moldovan - Quick and very clean, no needless options.
Swedish Snow (2.3) - A copy/newer version of Moldovan.
Cyanogen - A bit slow, but more options (nowhere I can find which options are in this rom, that aren't in others).
Blue Ginger - Better 3g battery life (I always have 3g on).
Ginger Stir Fry - Fast, but not as fast as Moldovan.
Things I expect from a custom rom:
Enable tethering for my MacBook Pro
Better battery life
That it is faster then the stock rom
Things I am a bit worried about:
Stability.
I want everything to work, with little to no crashes.
Which rom suits my needs the best? I don't care about overclocking.

Check out the cm7 kang development thread in the dev section. The build byburgerZ had been the fastest and stable for me

i have tried fish and chips and cyanogen.
typically i like cyanogen battery is ok for me i specially like the music controls from volume button when the screen is off which no other rom has and it gives few extra frames per sec on games.
but on fish and chips it was smoother and i always had about 310mb ram free all the time which is not the case with cyanogen.
but cyanogen can be smoother if u use a different launcher.

Ok, now I've narrowed it down to Cyanogenmod and Swedish Snow...

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Ok, now I've narrowed it down to Cyanogenmod and Swedish Snow...
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I also had the same choice as you mate swedish snow or cyanogen. I chose cyanogen because it offers more features for us users to use like theme chooser to customize the rom appearance more and cyanogen settings which offer faster boot times than other roms and different features like tablet softbuttons and miui battery bar.
Do not get me wrong if you like a stripped down rom i would go for GSF or Swedish Snow.

Kernels and ROMs?

Okay, there is this rule not to ask wich kernel is best and wich rom is best.. So i'll try to make it alittle better...
I'm on franco's kernel atm and CM 10.1.. And so far i'm rly happy But i've allways been a flash junkie ...
What roms is out that i can do this on: Change soft keys with no problems at all!, themes like CM10.1 But still blazing fast and as few bugs as possible
Kernels: Better battery than stock, fast when gaming and no hick ups..
I wanna hear what you guys like and what you recommend

Rasbean + trinity or Franco works amazing for me so far. Deciding between Franco and trinity for this Rom atm.
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I've been using codefire / franco and find the performance and battery life is excellent. I've changed my softkeys so that the back button is on the right (easier when i use with right hand). Also has extended desktop that allows you to hide everything when you want. give it a try.

cm10.1 + franco

There's
AOKP
Code fire
Cm
Cm kang
These are my choices that does what you asked for
Also
Franco
Faux
Trinity
Bricked
Is my go to choice in terms of increasing battery life without sacrificing performance
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all these roms look the same, they work the same. if one of them has a new feature the others will likely jump on it and kang it in. never seen much of a difference. if you want something unique, paranoid android. not to pat my own back here but this one has features that none other has and its the only one that has the power to drastically transform your device, and i mean drastic in its a new device afterwards. it has all the basic rom scene tweaks which you know from other roms, convenience buttons yaddayadda, but it brings new inventions.
see your apps transform . each and every app runs in a virtual space that can be defined by you. keep in mind, android has fixed layout constraits, small devices, big devices, very big devices. an android pocket watch is a small device, its layout is 360p. a latest gen phone may almost reach a higher designation but doenst quite, so it falls back to 360p. your huge nexus4 is running the same apps that run on a pocket watch - although these apps have hidden capabilities that unfold once they acknowledge a higher device class. you'd be shocked to see how much better your apps are on pa.
seamless hybrid ui's and interface selection this is the only rom that lets you choose between all interface layouts that android offers, without changing any of your apps. and the only one that has a real tablet UI, one that works better than the original did on google tablets.
per app color completely unique feature that no rom has. they use one static color. here colors shift from app to app, you define these colors with a simple color picker.
coolest looking control panel ever this lets you make changes in seconds, no reboot. change any app, change colors, individual dpi's, ui's, fullscreen, etc. you can even scale and switch system components like keyboards, lockscreen, etc.
per app expanded-desktop, normal exp-desktop is from us aswell.
and hybrid engine is not the only invention theres more.

thank you guys for the input Seems like i got some work to do

PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 + franco kernel works nice

Which ROM would you recommend me?

Hey there,
I am searching for a ROM with following requirements:
- Resizeable Navbar, want it a bit smaller
- Opacity of navbar and statusbar background should be changeable, want it transparent
- Should be smooth but no need to be extremely fast in every benchmark, I'd prefer a longer battery life
- Gridsize should be changeable, but could be done by nova launcher etc. if not by the rom itself
- Changeable statusbar symbols would be nice
Any suggestions wich ROM would fullfill most criteria?
Thanks!

I would go for AOKP any time. It's fast, smooth, stable and customizable. In combination with Apex Launcher it can do everything you want and for different statusbar icons there are lots of cool themes suppported by AOKP.

clandes said:
I would go for AOKP any time. It's fast, smooth, stable and customizable. In combination with Apex Launcher it can do everything you want and for different statusbar icons there are lots of cool themes suppported by AOKP.
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But can I change the status/nav bac opacity? I tried it some days ago, but I can't remember that feature, but I'll just flash it again and have a look ^^

laba86 said:
But can I change the status/nav bac opacity? I tried it some days ago, but I can't remember that feature, but I'll just flash it again and have a look ^^
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Yes, you can change both statusbar and navbar transparency simultaniously. It's under ROM Control/General UI about halway down the menu.

clandes said:
Yes, you can change both statusbar and navbar transparency simultaniously. It's under ROM Control/General UI about halway down the menu.
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Ah okay thank you! Maybe you can also tell me the difference between the normal AOKP ROM and the unofficial release from Roman?
Right now I am downloading build 2 of the official ROM.
One last question ^^ does it come with another kernel? If not which kernel would you recommend?

AW: Which ROM would you recommend me?
I don't know the included kernel.
I would go with the Build 2, because this one is more stable.
As kernel I would choose franco's kernel, for me it has awesome battery life and very good perfomance.
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I would go with Paranoidandroid, it really is on of the most custom ROM's out their at the minute bringing amazing features to Android. You can change the Nav bar size and colour or or go with tablet UI completely. Battery life would be more ROM, and kernel specific so thats a matter of opinion really.

Im running Slim bean. Really responsive. You can customize Nav bar I'm using the assassins creed nav bar icons and you can change colors and everything, running with their inverted apps, the less whites the better battery. On Franco's kernel also.
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I personally use Xylon ROM (tons of features even compared to AOKP), Paranoid Android is also fantastic, I'm on Harsh kernel, smoothest experience and great battery life (5hrs+ screen on), was a Franco fan till I tried Harsh

Paranoid Android is where it's at.

panaroid, Xenon HD, Xylon....etc..
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Paranoid Android using pie controls while still retaining the status bar is a dream come true once you get used to it.
It doesn't slow me down at all and the extra screen real estate is something that I wouldn't want to live without (especially in browser, youtube, video and games).

laba86 said:
Ah okay thank you! Maybe you can also tell me the difference between the normal AOKP ROM and the unofficial release from Roman?
Right now I am downloading build 2 of the official ROM.
One last question ^^ does it come with another kernel? If not which kernel would you recommend?
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nexus 4 builds come with stock kernel..

Official KILLRom. It's not on XDA, but it's easy to find.

There are many options as you cab see. Try then out and stick with the one that you love the most.
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How is aokp in terms of battery drain? I've heard that it drains a lot. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Paranoid android. Before I would switch between several roms but now with the several most recent updates for PA I'm not leaving that ROM anymore

cm10.1 jellybrO

AOKP hands down.

Thanks all, I tried Xylon and liked it a lot, but suddenly my play store app disappeared and I don't know how.
Then tried Paranoid but I don't like the menu interface and went to AOKP.
AOKP was very fine until now, but my play store disappeared again. I have absolutely no idea what is happening.
But I will open another thread for this problem. Wouldn't be appropriate here.