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[Q] How do I share my screen on to my HDTV?

Well I read so many threads about it but it got complicated after the 4th sentence and I don't understand a thing.
I have 1080p LG HDTV 37LD420-ZA bought in 2010. I have no idea about Miracast, what it is or do I have it. Can I even set up this stream or?
Thanks
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Holy crap I swear the lack of information on miracast will be its demise. Its seriously pathetic that one can't even simply search for 'how to use miracast' and find simple answers. Miracast is seriously the equivalent to a unicorn at this point.
Somebody PLEASE prove me wrong. Its my most anticipated feature of 4.2.

What you just said is completely right. I tried many sources but nothing :/
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JavaJunkay said:
Well I read so many threads about it but it got complicated after the 4th sentence and I don't understand a thing.
I have 1080p LG HDTV 37LD420-ZA bought in 2010. I have no idea about Miracast, what it is or do I have it. Can I even set up this stream or?
Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Bubble up player is great to stream from the tablet..
I use it because you can pick the device where the files are at. Say on a network computer share folder. Stream them thru the tablet to a Tv on the same network..
You can also select where the video is rendered .. Local ON THE SHARE Device or on the ..
MY Samsung shows up as a DLNA /Media device on all my networked devices . Its great feature..
YOU just have to play with the settings to find what works best with your tv and network shares.. There is also a SAMSUNG ALL SHARE App and program for windows pcs. that does NOT Require a samsung device..
As far as miracast who knows if or when....

The thing is, I don't want just DLNA playing to another device/computer/television. I want mirroring. I want exactly what Miracast is supposed to give me. And even now if you Google how to use Miracast you will find *nothing* about actually *how* to use it. You see a whole bunch of hype about people saying how it's going to beat AirPlay and how it's the best thing since sliced bread -- yet nobody has actually used it.
It's appalling how biased people can be without any evidence of the feature working (short of a video given to us by the friggin manufacturer). I feel like I purchased an iDevice. This feature is a ghost.

Exactly, feels like there are more Andro Sheep than iSheep. For now, 4.2 only brought amazing Bluetooth-NFC connectivity. As well as some UI stuff which there are plenty of custom on Android.
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What good is it without dongles easily Googlingable? I G+'d a collection of certified devices a while before 4.2. Ain't been able to find a one. And Samsung's AllShare Hub thing wasn't one of them.

Spidey01 said:
What good is it without dongles easily Googlingable? I G+'d a collection of certified devices a while before 4.2. Ain't been able to find a one. And Samsung's AllShare Hub thing wasn't one of them.
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Well I, for one, wouldn't even be connecting it to a TV. My home theater PC, however, should easily be able to have some sort of software running on it that would be able to receive the signal. The problem is that the functionality is only half-baked at this time no matter where you look.
And without any device currently on the market, how can people swear by it?

Before we all start a witch hunt, remember miracast is still in development. You can't have something that hasn't had an official release yet.
Android Central has had a few articles on it, so far there are no official streaming devices for it (although some companies have claimed their upcoming streaming devices will support it).
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Our best hope is that Google enables Miracast in a future update, and that compliant Miracast devices are released. I'm not holding my breath, since I would have thought that they would have included it with the 4.2 update if they planned on including it at all. I could be wrong of course. It's still early days with Miracast. Maybe it can be enabled via custom ROMs.
It would have been awesome to be able to stream games to my TV. Along with a bluetooth connected PS3 controller it really could have been an awesome experience.

MrWulf said:
Our best hope is that Google enables Miracast in a future update, and that compliant Miracast devices are released. I'm not holding my breath, since I would have thought that they would have included it with the 4.2 update if they planned on including it at all. I could be wrong of course. It's still early days with Miracast. Maybe it can be enabled via custom ROMs.
It would have been awesome to be able to stream games to my TV. Along with a bluetooth connected PS3 controller it really could have been an awesome experience.
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EXACTLY.
But I thought this *was* enabled by 4.2...? What have we been reading about Miracast in 4.2 then?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411555,00.asp
http://www.slashgear.com/how-does-android-4-2-jelly-bean-wireless-display-mirroring-work-29254650/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/02/asus_pledges_android_update_for_nexus_7/
Is this all just for the Nexus 4? All of the links above specifically say it's for the Nexus 7.

etnpnys said:
EXACTLY.
But I thought this *was* enabled by 4.2...? What have we been reading about Miracast in 4.2 then?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411555,00.asp
http://www.slashgear.com/how-does-android-4-2-jelly-bean-wireless-display-mirroring-work-29254650/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/02/asus_pledges_android_update_for_nexus_7/
Is this all just for the Nexus 4? All of the links above specifically say it's for the Nexus 7.
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Lazy, bad reporting.

They don't mention the 7 in the article, just the 10 and 4. I don't mind living without mirroring (my phone has MHL, if I ever bother to buy the adapter), but the wireless mirroring was a selling point on this tablet for me, even if I have to go custom to enable it.
As a filmmaking student, the capability to control and mirror screens on, say, a movie set, or a classroom, without plugging everything up just so, sounds pretty sweet. And I'm personally just tired of collecting single-use cables and adapters.
Patience, however, is a virtue, and I am willing to wait for Google to get off their asses once the mob realizes the shortchanges they're giving us. -Ara
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What I don't understand is why did they hype it so much? From what I understood, no ones TV even supports this yet. Am I supposed to buy a new TV for this feature?
And I also don't understand, how is N7 not mentioned in those articles? Official Miracast video says that this is going to be enabled for NVIDIA Tegra 3 devices. Only N7 has Tegra 3, N4 and N10 both have different stuff inside.
This thing lacks so much information.
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Yeah, prob a mistake to hype it so much. I mean, wait until the ecosystem is ready. Airplay has been out for so long it seems. Get off your asses, Google!

any devolopment?
Any devolopment on this? I just searched for an hour and only came up with articles on it, no downloads or hardware..

Convince Me To Buy An OUYA

Hey everyone!
I've been on the edge about the OUYA for a while now and am thinking that this thing could either really take off or be a pretty big bust. At $99 I feel like this could be a great media streaming device with some basic games on the side. I'm currently deciding between this and the ROKU 3.
If the OUYA eventually gets some FPS games like MC4 where you can use online gampelay and get direct support from Netflix and other streaming services this could be a great product for me. My thing is, do I really wanna pay $99 for this thing only to find that it eventually gets no dev support?
Also, I understand you can sideload apps and do all that stuff, but this is an entertainment and gaming device. I have a rooted GS4 and N7, so if I wanna sideload apps and flash a bunch of custom roms I'll use one of them. When I turn on my OUYA I want a flawless experience without having to do anything to it.
So convince me why I should buy the OUYA.

Because its cool. What else are you going to spend a hundred bucks on?
Why should we convince you? It doesn't affect us whether or not you get one

Because you will be ahead if the revolution. You'll be cool before it was cool.
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Nxxx said:
Hey everyone!
I've been on the edge about the OUYA for a while now and am thinking that this thing could either really take off or be a pretty big bust. At $99 I feel like this could be a great media streaming device with some basic games on the side. I'm currently deciding between this and the ROKU 3.
If the OUYA eventually gets some FPS games like MC4 where you can use online gampelay and get direct support from Netflix and other streaming services this could be a great product for me. My thing is, do I really wanna pay $99 for this thing only to find that it eventually gets no dev support?
Also, I understand you can sideload apps and do all that stuff, but this is an entertainment and gaming device. I have a rooted GS4 and N7, so if I wanna sideload apps and flash a bunch of custom roms I'll use one of them. When I turn on my OUYA I want a flawless experience without having to do anything to it.
So convince me why I should buy the OUYA.
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I got my Ouya last week. I was excited at first, but I literally played with it for 10 minutes and it is a POS. It has since been listed on craigslist and is sitting in a corner of my room. And guess what, not one person on craigslist has contacted me about it. The firmware is buddy, the games look terrible, there is no Netflix support as of yet. Not ready for primetime.

For a media streaming device, its not really there yet. You would be better served with the Roku.
Remember though, the device hasn't even been released for the general public yet. It's only been out of most of the Kickstater for a few weeks (some are still waiting). I finally started tinking with mine yesterday. It's definitely in a more or less, beta stage.
Basically, what you said is basically what people are doing. Getting APKs from their other Android devices, side loading, and seeing what works. Some try tweaking the APKs to get to work better. Related, but not on point, there are no, or very few custom roms for the device thus far. It's not a device for the flashaholic.
As you implied, there is a bit of redundancy of having it and another Android, such as Galaxy S4 or Nexus7. This is device that you can leave hooked up to the TV, whereas the others, not really since you'll want to take them on the go; I don't believe the N7 can be hooked up the TV.
I say it something to get if you like tinkering with an Android device, And can live with it that it may not work exactly like you hope. For me, I like the Ouya device. Yet, it has all the things I like, and hate, about the Android platform. End of the day, it is still an Android device.
Although, the Roku 3 will serve your media stream needs, at least most of them, you're not going to get MC4.

acetkbez said:
I got my Ouya last week. I was excited at first, but I literally played with it for 10 minutes and it is a POS. It has since been listed on craigslist and is sitting in a corner of my room. And guess what, not one person on craigslist has contacted me about it. The firmware is buddy, the games look terrible, there is no Netflix support as of yet. Not ready for primetime.
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You do know that you were correct in saying it's not ready for primetime yet, right? I mean they've even said that, maybe not in those words but still. If you've only messed with it for 10 minutes, then you have missed 99% of what it can do.
to OP: If you are looking for a super Android based media machine, this might not be for you. Why? Because it's a brand new concept, the first of it's kind. Will it have the capability to match or even surpass the Roku's of the world? I believe so, but not without some tinkering. There is a LOT it has to offer and at $99, it's a good deal.
The thing comes out of the box ready for apps to be downloaded both from the web and from the OUYA market. I think the term sideloading intimidates people, but the truth is getting an app on this thing is as easy as opening the built in browser, googling the app you want, and clicking download. This gets even easier when you install AirDroid and you can do it all from your laptop!
So what I'm trying to say is out of the box without tinkering you still have access to almost all non-drm Android apps. NOt all of them look right, but so far many work good.
As for the buggy stuff, as someone else mentioned, this is more of a beta phase than anything else, I suspect we'll see a large update in the next week before official release.
So if you want a rather powerful little device to play some good games (including the fact it has (or will have) all the emulators for Atari to PS1 on the OUYA market), with the potential to blow away what a ROKU can do, your $99 could not be better spent, but if you want something that is a sure thing for media only, get the ROKU.

Thanks for all the above everyone. I think I'm going to wait a little bit and see how things go. It sounds like a real cool device, but it really has its own little niche.
I'm not bashing on it or anything, but right now it doesn't seem to be really good at anything from what I've heard from you all.
It doesn't have great games and isn't a product for gamers. Doesn't have the media streaming services.
Until OUYA gets a deal with Netflix or a solid FPS comes out, I'm going to sit back and wait. I really want this product to succeed because it seems like it could be really functional and portable.
If I missed anything or you would like to correct me on anything please do. I'm open to all thoughts and opinions.
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Netflix's app just need tweaking for the controller input. Some have had better luck with it. I know I can bounce around with Sixasis controller enabled on my Galaxy Note 2 better than I was getting on the Ouya. Kind of odd. This is going to true for all media streaming apps. Some just may work better from the get go, so the updating/tweaking may be very minimal.
There are some good games. Chrono Blade looked nice and played well. I only played a few minutes. I briefly checked out Monster Boxing. Reminded me of Punch Out!. Its typical of situation of when a console launches. Couple gems, lots a mediocre, and even more crap.
Some of of what you ask is subjective. We don't know what kind of games you think are good. We don't know unbuggy something can be and still be a good experience for you. Don't know how much you like, want, or need to tinker. We're just trying to give a more objective facts based on experience and reading so you can decide a little more informed.
And thing is true, it's definitely a niche product. And most likely, any Android "game" console is going to be niche

acetkbez said:
I got my Ouya last week. I was excited at first, but I literally played with it for 10 minutes and it is a POS. It has since been listed on craigslist and is sitting in a corner of my room. And guess what, not one person on craigslist has contacted me about it. The firmware is buddy, the games look terrible, there is no Netflix support as of yet. Not ready for primetime.
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Did you try to get more for it than what you paid? Theres some one where I'm at trying to sell one for more than it cost them. Plus not knowing how to tell if he has the good controllers or the bad ones makes me nervous about buying his. Also you knew what you were signing up for right?

JLCollier2005 said:
Because it's a brand new concept, the first of it's kind. Will it have the capability to match or even surpass the Roku's of the world? I believe so, but not without some tinkering. There is a LOT it has to offer and at $99, it's a good deal.
So if you want a rather powerful little device to play some good games (including the fact it has (or will have) all the emulators for Atari to PS1 on the OUYA market), with the potential to blow away what a ROKU can do, your $99 could not be better spent, but if you want something that is a sure thing for media only, get the ROKU.
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I wouldn't say this is the first of its kind. There are many China Android boxes out there that run pure Android. These Chinese boxes already do Netflix. However, none of the China Android boxes in the market right now have Tegra3. They're all dual core processors with some Mali400 graphics component. The difference in graphics ability is big enough between Tegra3 and the Mali chips on the China Android boxes to convince me to pick Ouya over the currently available choices. The China Android boxes can just play HD, but there's not a lot of headroom, and they cost about the same as the Ouya. The Ouya is a better value. You get a controller (now fixed) and a high profile American company over a non-responsive Chinese manufacturer.
If we don't get any developer support for a pure Android ROM, that means the Ouya could do 2 solid things:
1) local media player (XBMC). Local meaning media files from your network, not Netflix media.
2) small games and game emulator
That is enough to satisfy me for a $100 device. That's because I'm not a Netflix user. The Roku, for about the same price, wouldn't add any more capability. The China Android boxes might have a slight lead because they run pure Android. Realistically, the China manufacturers will eventually be making Tegra3 level Android boxes running pure Android. Probably by the end of this year. And these boxes would rival the Ouya in terms of functionality.
I haven't been keeping up with the development work. What are the chances that we'll see a pure Android ROM for the Ouya? I know that's a subjective question.

Asadullah said:
Plus not knowing how to tell if he has the good controllers or the bad ones makes me nervous about buying his.
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A bit off topic but can you tell me what made the bad controllers bad? I have heard people say there were problems, but not what the problems were.
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I wouldn't say this is the first of its kind. There are many China Android boxes out there that run pure Android. These Chinese boxes already do Netflix. However, none of the China Android boxes in the market right now have Tegra3. They're all dual core processors with some Mali400 graphics component. The difference in graphics ability is big enough between Tegra3 and the Mali chips on the China Android boxes to convince me to pick Ouya over the currently available choices. The China Android boxes can just play HD, but there's not a lot of headroom, and they cost about the same as the Ouya. The Ouya is a better value. You get a controller (now fixed) and a high profile American company over a non-responsive Chinese manufacturer.
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While the China boxes might be out there, it's not something I'd go through again...I've bought plenty of things from China that never worked or worked right. I will say you are right about there being other options, though, but I meant more official.
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If we don't get any developer support for a pure Android ROM, that means the Ouya could do 2 solid things:
1) local media player (XBMC). Local meaning media files from your network, not Netflix media.
2) small games and game emulator
That is enough to satisfy me for a $100 device. That's because I'm not a Netflix user.
I haven't been keeping up with the development work. What are the chances that we'll see a pure Android ROM for the Ouya? I know that's a subjective question.
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XBMC already "kinda" supports OUYA. I say it that way because it's a known fact that you can get it up and running the same way you have to on your phone/tablet and that the people at OUYA are talking to the people at XBMC, so I think it's likely we'll see that in the market as soon as a stable release is found. I believe the same goes for Netflix. I am a netflix user and would love to see HD netflix on this thing, which shouldn't be hard, but it's not my main concern right now. WIthout the Google Architecture, them managing DRM on the thing shouldn't be too hard.
As for games, I'm not sure if "small games" is the correct term. Sure, they won't be Playstation 3/Xbox 360 quality, but I think people will be surprised at how much devs can push this thing! The ball is a good example of pretty good graphics, better than I originally thought possible, and it can only get better. While I didn't buy it with the thought of it being used as an Emulator, that's one of the main things I've done with it. Most recently I got PPSSPP to work on it and actually played a game.
As for development work, I know people are already working on builds, some already running in alpha, so I do believe we'll see some stable pure android ROM's sooner than later, although personally I wouldn't be using one. I like the structure that OUYA has laid over it and plan on keeping it that way, even if I am in the minority with that idea.

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A bit off topic but can you tell me what made the bad controllers bad? I have heard people say there were problems, but not what the problems were.
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Buttons sticking and not reacting as quickly as they should. Ouya did offer to replace any ones that was messed up like that and fixed the problem but some people didn't know that.

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Buttons sticking and not reacting as quickly as they should. Ouya did offer to replace any ones that was messed up like that and fixed the problem but some people didn't know that.
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Ah okay. I should make sure I didn't get any messed up ones, I haven't tried my second controller. Thanks!

I regret buying the OUYA. There's not enough to it. Not enough games. The idea was great, and with the millions upon millions of kickstarter funds I sure expected more.
Wish I got the ROKU HD instead.

Muckrak3r said:
I regret buying the OUYA. There's not enough to it. Not enough games. The idea was great, and with the millions upon millions of kickstarter funds I sure expected more.
Wish I got the ROKU HD instead.
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Not enough games? Can you tell me the last console that released with 154 (and counting since it's not officially released) games/apps? It's unprecedented. I don't know what you (or many others like you) expected, maybe you expected it to be more like a phone or tablet (and if that's the case, I can understand where you're coming from, I thought the same thing until I really thought about it).
The OUYA is doing things no other console has ever done, but people are not seeing it. The simple fact is that OUYA didn't (and shouldn't) put all the money into it day one, they need to think of the longevity of their product and their company.
Could they have done more? Sure! One thing is they should have thought about first party games. With the amount of money they made, they could have had a select few working on some top notch games for release. Being a brand new company, they struggled in getting support, however some big names have signed on to test the waters. With some good support, I wouldn't be surprised to see console quality games ported to the OUYA. Not as good graphics, of course, but that was never expected.

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Not enough games? Can you tell me the last console that released with 154 (and counting since it's not officially released) games/apps? It's unprecedented.
The OUYA is doing things no other console has ever done, but people are not seeing it.
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I don't really think the Ouya is doing something that no other console has ever done. There has been several Android set-top boxes out before Ouya. They run pure Android. Ouya is just bringing a game store to the Android set-top box idea. I wouldn't say it's revolutionary. I think some of the games that are out are just existing games from the Android play store anyways.
And I'm saying this as a pre-order customer for Ouya.

I have a Roku 3 and it is amazing. I am a cord cutter and got my sisters Time Warner and HBO Go login. I have Hulu Plus and Netflix. I also use Blockbuster and Amazon on Demand. The roku3 is butter man. Two leagues of their own. The Roku has magnificent streaming capabilities and never drops video. It balances bandwidth but never drops. It has a wealth of video watching. Games on the Roku3 are fun but an afterthought/gimmicky.
Ouya is a game console primarily and should be considered as such. My android devices can do Netflix and stuff but typically drop and have to rebuffer often. Some video services like Hulu Plus don't even work on Ouya yet.
I want an Ouya and recommend getting both but I would buy the Roku3 over the Ouya first IMO.
It just all depends on your priorities. We can play games on our cellphones but the family can't watch TV on one. If you have an alternative TV service like cable and streaming is not a priority then pick up a Ouya and see if it will suffice in place of both. I know my wife wouldn't use a game controller to control the TV.
Like previously stated, the Ouya is merely a new interface right now. Once it gains its foothold I think unique games will start to spruce up and it will take off.
I'm buying one just for multiplayer controller support, something no other android device can successfully do from my experience. My MK808 and N7 all see multiple controllers as the same player1 controller. I'd like to be able to play some old school Mortal Kombat and Mario Kart with my son and buddies.
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Muckrak3r said:
I regret buying the OUYA. There's not enough to it. Not enough games. The idea was great, and with the millions upon millions of kickstarter funds I sure expected more.
Wish I got the ROKU HD instead.
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I'll trade you my first gen Roku XDS and MK808 with external Antenna mod and a RC11 AirMouse.
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Muckrak3r said:
I regret buying the OUYA. There's not enough to it. Not enough games. The idea was great, and with the millions upon millions of kickstarter funds I sure expected more.
Wish I got the ROKU HD instead.
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This kind of response astounds me, but I'll just address one tiny point. The money given to OUYA. I hope everyone realizes that even including the venture capital $$, OUYA funding barely matches the advertising budgets for the big two, right. I mean, the Xbox 360 took five (?) years to become profitable. The idea that a device running Android, funded by kickstarter, and planned and developed in a year for release to retail, and then immediately viewed as a bad value in comparison to the big two is just mind-boggling.
It's not perfect, but it's great for its intended use.
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I agree. I just launched. Right now it is piggy backing off of the Android market but that is just the icing on the cake. With Mobile games becoming more and more advanced, it is nice to have the ability to play both. But that isn't what the Ouya is about. The Ouya is about CREATING a platform for people to build games out of their basement and get them public. Not all great minds work for a big company. Look how Minecraft took off. Minecraft NEVER would have been able to build directly for a console.
There are tons of fun games to play right out of the box for free. No other console does this. Aside from emulators, the Ouya is about an idea, spawned from the little people who just want to make and play games. Buying an Ouya doesn't just buy you an Ouya, but supports the idea that games don't have to cost $60. Perhaps if MS/Sony/Apple/Nintendo wouldn't charge so damn much just for stupid licensing and fees, we might live in a totally radical world right now.
If you can't appreciate the Ouya, then you can't look past your nose to see the big picture. It just isn't a purchase but an investment into a totally new way of creating and playing games. I, for one, cannot wait to see how the Ouya blossums and develops over the next year. If you are looking for instant gratification then the Ouya might fail you today. I think it is a worth while purchase just to have a dedicated emulator machine that plays on the big screen.

Need an Android Stick.... What would you recommend?

I want to get an Android Stick in the next day or so and wanted to know what you guys would currently recommend?
Seems to be that these 3 are very good ones, have good reviews and are sold on Amazon. I listed them in order of how I was thinking about going.
1. Tronsmart MK908 II
2. Tronsmart T428
3. Tronsmart CX919
Or is there something else out there that is better.
Basically want something for general Android use. Internet, Gaming, light Productivity.
I have an OUYA, Gamestick, Nexus 7' iPads. So that might give you an idea.
I know how to do very basic hacking. Rooting and what not, but would love to have all of it pre done if possible.
Any help and thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

No one has any thoughts? I would like to try and order something today. Leaning towards the MK908 II. Seems fast and responsive. Wifi and Bluetooth are better, comes rooted, and has both a 720p and 1080p kernel.

moviecouple said:
No one has any thoughts? I would like to try and order something today. Leaning towards the MK908 II. Seems fast and responsive. Wifi and Bluetooth are better, comes rooted, and has both a 720p and 1080p kernel.
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I recommend mk908ii too

I've got the 908, very worth the money, i'd recommend it.

Keep'm coming guys, I'm also looking to buy one of these babie.

John Waugh said:
I've got the 908, very worth the money, i'd recommend it.
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how much are they roughly?

I see the recommendation for the mk908ii but can it play 1080 in XBMC? I would rather a amlogic than a rockchip based one if XBMC is the main purpose.

I would like to know if they support;
VPN
Bluetooth keyboards
Adobe Flash
DLNA
Gamepads usb and bluetooh
Zattoo player
Cameras for Google Hangouts
One more thing how often they upgrade the firmware, is it planned to have android kitkat on them?
Thanks a lot.

tcblues said:
I would like to know if they support;
VPN
Bluetooth keyboards
Adobe Flash
DLNA
Gamepads usb and bluetooh
Zattoo player
Cameras for Google Hangouts
One more thing how often they upgrade the firmware, is it planned to have android kitkat on them?
Thanks a lot.
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Well yes to all, if not, a custom rom will support it.
I doubt they will get official update to 4.4, no doubt at some point a custom rom will support.
I brought a mk908 v1 for the prospect of running a full linux distro on it and having a far more powerful raspberry pi. While ive got ubuntu running with all the trimmings, still lack hardware acceleration 2d & 3d. Also missing vpu acceleration so only software decoded video, but for reference with this is still powerful enough to soft-decode a 720p bluray smoothly. hwa will be here soon though.
Under android with a custom rom/ kernel i got 20,000 in antutu which blew me away. Defiantly impressed by the rk3188 soc.

Thanks a lot!!!
And what about the MiniX NEOX7 deserves to pay more money for it compare to the normal sticks we talked in here?
http://www.minix.com.hk/Products/MINIX-NEOX7.html

tcblues said:
Thanks a lot!!!
And what about the MiniX NEOX7 deserves to pay more money for it compare to the normal sticks we talked in here?
http://www.minix.com.hk/Products/MINIX-NEOX7.html
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I bought a Minix Neo X7 for my parents mainly for Skype. Unfortunately, atleast with the current 006c firmware, Skype or Hangouts doesn't work. Checkout minixforums.com. There seem to be quite a few issues with video playback & camera support. I cannot say anything personally because I couldn't try the device myself (I am not at home). Hopefully, the new firmware that is expected to come out in November will have the issues fixed. Otherwise, I am afraid it will turn into a paper weight for me.

So considering all options... would you think that Tronsmart MK908 II is the best option available?
I want to buy it as a christmas present for a couple of people and me

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So considering all options... would you think that Tronsmart MK908 II is the best option available?
I want to buy it as a christmas present for a couple of people and me
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If that questions was meant for me, sorry. I don't have much knowledge about these devices to make a recommendation. SomeCoolTech in YouTube has done reviews for some of these. May be you can check that out. Unfortunately, his review praised Neo X7 as well. So, I would be cautious in making any purchase decisions solely based on those videos. Keep in mind that we (my parents) didn't try any video playback with X7. I was disappointed with it because of the video chat issues. From what I understand, Minix X5 doesn't have those kind of camera issues, so I am hoping it will be fixed in the next firmware update.

nexus player

There has to be more coming in development for the nexus player. I have the Chromecast. Does what I need. Just looking for more of a reason to keep a $150 investment with the Asus controller. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm looking for other users to help me find a reason to keep the nexus player and controller! Thanks in advance!

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There has to be more coming in development for the nexus player. I have the Chromecast. Does what I need. Just looking for more of a reason to keep a $150 investment with the Asus controller. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm looking for other users to help me find a reason to keep the nexus player and controller! Thanks in advance!
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What did you want to use it for?
More development is coming, but not as fast as we'd want to see. Sony,Sharp, and Philips seem to be putting ATV into their new 2015 TVs. Samsung, LG, and Panasonic are going with non-Android options. Since Samsung is the biggest TV seller, that hurts. It'll be up to Google and Android devs to push their options. It will take time for apps to be developed, too. We're only 2-3 months into commercially available Android TV.
You can easily sell that Chromecast dongle and recoup at least $20. You also should ditch the controller. I think you overpayed for it, especially since the Gamestop Samurai $12.99 controller is awesome.

Using mine as a retro gaming machine via emulators, and eventually will have a fully working 5.0 experience.

IBNobody said:
You can easily sell that Chromecast dongle and recoup at least $20. You also should ditch the controller. I think you overpayed for it, especially since the Gamestop Samurai $12.99 controller is awesome.
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Yeah, I get more development will come.. I jump the gun on that. Can u personally verify that samurai controller works as well as I read from some people on here? I'm still in my window to return the Asus one. Thanks...

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Yeah, I get more development will come.. I jump the gun on that. Can u personally verify that samurai controller works as well as I read from some people on here? I'm still in my window to return the Asus one. Thanks...
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It works great. I honestly can't believe I payed $13 bucks for it. It has just the right amount of button and d-pad tension for me.

Showme1 said:
There has to be more coming in development for the nexus player. I have the Chromecast. Does what I need. Just looking for more of a reason to keep a $150 investment with the Asus controller. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm looking for other users to help me find a reason to keep the nexus player and controller! Thanks in advance!
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I just recently started looking at the nexus player and currently have a chromecast and a WDTV so i figured the nexus player combined both? the WDTV is very slow but works well with streaming MKV's for what the chromecast does not do but am looking for more info on this too!

I am looking or thinking of purchasing the Nexus Player. Is it worth the $99? I didn't like the Roku. I am not saying that the Roku was a bad device, just not what i wanted, not for me. Is the Nexus Player any better? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Waynehead69 said:
I am looking or thinking of purchasing the Nexus Player. Is it worth the $99? I didn't like the Roku. I am not saying that the Roku was a bad device, just not what i wanted, not for me. Is the Nexus Player any better? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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If I were you I'd save my money, and possibly buy the Razer box when it comes out. In it's current state Android TV doesn't have much to offer over a chromecast, except bugs.
I own 2x ADT-1's, and a Nexus Player... and I've gone back to chromecasts in my bedroom. There's just too many issues right now for them to be everyday devices.

Thanks, I really appreciate your feedback as most of the reviews that I've read about the Nexus player have been somewhat mediocre.

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Thanks, I really appreciate your feedback as most of the reviews that I've read about the Nexus player have been somewhat mediocre.
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It all depends on what you didn't like about the Roku and what you are looking for.
For me this is exactly what I was looking for. I wanted a chromecast with a dedicated remote and a user interface.
I used the ChromeCast on my small TV downstairs and the NP upstairs on the Big TV.
Exactly what I wanted then add in some games for fun and it is perfect for me.
The only issue that I have had is that I don't like the Plex layout. I just sideloaded the non pass version and I like it now

I'm trying to replace my 3 WDTV boxes and purchased a Android TV to test out. Kodi is light years ahead of WDTV in most areas.
No more network connectivity issues.
The UI is much much MUCH better than WDTV.
Kodi has terrific plugin support. WDTV has none.
Android TV is FASSST! No more spinning circle.
Where Android TV falls down is video playback. It still suffers from drops frames, which is a big deal.
I don't game so I can't speak about that.
Would I buy another? Right now, there is nothing better.
PS. I need a unit that does native streaming from a NAS and also supports DLNA (PLEX)

Just wondering if there is autoplay when casting from hulu/Netflix. Only reason why I returned my Chromecast a long time ago. It was a pain to have to go back and cast the next episode of something.

New Kickstarter

Check out this kewl looking Kickstarter called ZRRO

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Check out this kewl looking Kickstarter called ZRRO
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1623845638/zrro-touch-your-tv-from-the-couch
Another android microconsole, but with touch pad controllers.
IMO, it's not a good idea, bringing touch to a TV device is backwards thinking for the microconsole/AndroidTV cause!

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1623845638/zrro-touch-your-tv-from-the-couch
Another android microconsole, but with touch pad controllers.
IMO, it's not a good idea, bringing touch to a TV device is backwards thinking for the microconsole/AndroidTV cause!
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Now you have to admit it be fun to try? You no the old saying never know till you try? I ordered one as a novelty I may like it.

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Now you have to admit it be fun to try? You no the old saying never know till you try? I ordered one as a novelty I may like it.
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I can think of a few things I'd rather try:
* Steam box's controller
* Obox
I think there's apps that turn your mobile phone into something similar right?
This to me, doesn't do much for me.
But yeah, good luck with that.

gwaldo said:
I can think of a few things I'd rather try:
* Steam box's controller
* Obox
I think there's apps that turn your mobile phone into something similar right?
This to me, doesn't do much for me.
But yeah, good luck with that.
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I have to agree. Not only is it backwards thinking the console itself is extremely underpowered for the price point. They say that it will be retailing for $250 USD but it is only going to have a Quad Core A9 CPU and an Octo Core Mali-450 GPU. Add to that the controller is straight BT and not BT4. Honestly these guys would have done allot better had they just released the controller with multi device support.

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I have to agree. Not only is it backwards thinking the console itself is extremely underpowered for the price point. They say that it will be retailing for $250 USD but it is only going to have a Quad Core A9 CPU and an Octo Core Mali-450 GPU. Add to that the controller is straight BT and not BT4. Honestly these guys would have done allot better had they just released the controller with multi device support.
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I guess the only innovation these guys have done is the touch controller, but yeah.. not that great, but innovative regardless.
At end of the day, good spec's aren't the most important things, ie ouya, C64, wii, etc all under powered but brought something new to the table.
But with android, it helps to stay a head of the curve, that's one thing madcatz did right and obox, looks to be extending with the modular philosophy.

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.....Honestly these guys would have done allot better had they just released the controller with multi device support.
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So true. I was thinking if this controller was supported by the MOJO , it would be one of the greatest entertainment device out there.
The number one turn-off of the MOJO after months of use is the simple fact that I can't play all android games with the (fantastic) CTRLR.
Who knows, perhaps someone will come up with a controller like this which will connect with the MOJO.

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So true. I was thinking if this controller was supported by the MOJO , it would be one of the greatest entertainment device out there.
The number one turn-off of the MOJO after months of use is the simple fact that I can't play all android games with the (fantastic) CTRLR.
Who knows, perhaps someone will come up with a controller like this which will connect with the MOJO.
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I think Tinycore as that feature now, which turns your mobile phone into that controller... unless it can do something more?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2652749