[Q] Can you do anthing without the original bootloader - HD2 General

I have recently acquired a htc hd2 T8585 which has Android 2.3.4. installed on the NAND flash memory. I wish to install the stock win 6.5 rom or experiment with some of the other roms but ive hit a brick wall. Every how to and piece of infomation ive read about the subject refers to the red, green, blue and white bootloader screen that you reach by pressing the volume and power buttons a certain way. This bootloader is not on my hd2, instead it has android recovery mode which consists of six options:
1.reboot system now
2.apply update from sdcard
3.wipe data/ factory reset
4.wipe cache partition
5.backup user data
6.restore user data.
Theres also a empty 16 GB micro sd card and ive tried finding out how to do it that way as well but all options require the original bootloader.
Basically it seems i can't do jack without the bootloader.
Has anyone enccounterd this problem? Any ideas?
help much appreciated
law 180

the real bootloader will still be there, the phone cant work without it. What you are seeing is a secondary bootloader.
phone off
press hold and keep holding vol-down (not vol-up)
tap and release power
keep holding vol-down
stripey screen should appear.
if it doesn't, you have a fault.

Factory mode
Hey samsamuel thanks for the reply. After following your instructions the phone went into an android factory mode istead of recovery mode and after running some tests displayed these options:
Factory mode
1.Full test
2.Item test
3.Test report
4.Clear flash
5.Version
6.Reboot
I still can't see how to install a new rom from this point. Any ideas?
Thanks.

hmmm,, doesnt sound like an HD2 to me, , , fake chinese import? wrongly identified device? got a photo of it?

Whatever your device is, it's not an HD2 I'm afraid. I'd agree with samsamuel, pics might help.

Its definitely a HD2 and im now guessing probabley a chinese copy, though the phone feels pretty solid but i don't have a lot of expirence in these matters. Under the battery it says HD2 T8585 and its made in Taiwan also has a imei number etc Here are some photos, sorry about the quality.

Law180 said:
Its definitely a HD2 and im now guessing probabley a chinese copy, though the phone feels pretty solid but i don't have a lot of expirence in these matters. Under the battery it says HD2 T8585 and its made in Taiwan also has a imei number etc Here are some photos, sorry about the quality.
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Yep, that's a copy. The sensor in the first pic (on the top left) is far too pronounced and the stuff under the battery is different to the one under mine. Also, I don't know if it's just me but the bezel seems a little too big as well. Sorry, but this isn't an HD2.

yea that orange charge light is way out of position, (thats about where the proximity sensor should be, the orange light should be inside teh earpiece grill, tucked into teh left corner.) , its a good copy, though, if it is , there were some terrible ones a year or two back.

Ah to bad, thanks for the help guys. Luckily i didnt pay anything for it, tempted to buy a real one now.

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Bricked phone ????

Hi,
Phone info :
ipl : 3.08
SPL: 3.08
GSM: 01.12.10
OS : 4.0.0.0
Using a rom i upgraded a year ago.
So yesterday i decided to update my music on the phone, so not a big deal, but when i tryed to play 1 my telephone said it was out of memory and just went really slow, so i decided a reset, bad move.
After the reset it goes to the 2nd loading screen and just hangs there, i cant do anything.
When booting i can go into the screen with all the colors. (gotta press the cam button).
I already googled 2 days but cant find anything to fix this.
Any idea's ?? or is my phone dead ?
didnt remember this forum to be this dead.... any word ?
All my snarky comments about your misplaced impatience can be set aside for later abuse.
For now, here's how you fix it:
Charge on a wall charger with phone turned off. Verify green light before going any further (flashes don't work on less than 50% charge, and a full charge is the only way to be sure when you can't boot the OS).
Let it boot until it's stuck in bootloader mode (the three-color screen).
Hook it to a computer that you have previously synced to the phone with. Verify that "USB" appears in the bottom of the screen. If not, you're probably hosed.
Flash the ROM you loaded again (or get another ROM, doesn't matter...the one in my Sig is pretty nice, if you re-skin Manila after loading it). If you unlocked this phone before adding the ROM you last had, do NOT flash back to OEM ROM unless you can flash a ROM that removes the unlock (for G4, it's the Remove HardSPL procedure).
After that, you can stave off a lot of these kind of memory problems in the future by loading some kind of RAM indicator (QuickMenu has a built-in one, can manage running programs, and gives you a Windows desktop-style start menu for programs instead of the dumb endless folder parade) to let you know you have too many programs running, and you need to do a soft reset every once in a while, just to jog it clean. It also would be wise for you to load a cleaner to clear out your temp files...you'd be shocked how much crap piles up under the OS when you're not looking.
One last thing, do us a favor and put all your phone's info in your Sig...it helps others have a strong footing for making suggestions...not everyone would know off-hand that you have a G3 or a G4 without that info, and your problems can be made a LOT worse by someone offering the wrong answer based on not clearly identifying your hardware.
Hi,
First, Sorry for my impatient, it kinda sucked to have to go back to my old phone and recharge every 30 mins
In this impatiency (dont know if its a word but it sounds cool ) i found out my t-mobile contract was up for renewal, so i did that and ordered a new HTC Touch HD (will update my sig assoon as it ships )
So i guess ill fix this phone, and find a dutch ROM and give it to my dad, he's always working with excel etc and i think this is perfect
Thanks for your response and fix, sorry again for my impatience.
Sorry, double post, pretty slow forum lately

[JUL2] [Q] Help I accidentally the whole thing...

Well, technically I didn't do anything.
I just bought an HD2 off Craiglist, T8585, previously unlocked, so it would already play nice with my AT&T.
It had some SPB shell on it, so I went in to do a full data wipe and it reboots into something not stock-sense.
I attempted to boot into the bootloader and nothing happens--it just boots normally.
((Vol. down does work normally, mind you--the button is not broken.))
Any ideas as to what might be going on? I'm trying to see if they have the stock bootloader on this still, but the non-stock reset is throwing me off, as is the fact that I can't actually boot into the bootloader.
If I hold down both volumte buttons, I get a tricolor+white screen with an error, "Error: Copying file from SD Card failed, system will shut down."
Pictures attached to show current home-screen and error screen.
Thanks for your help.
Did you try without SD card? If there is something "flashable" on it, maybe your device tries to do something, but reading existing data fails.
My bro if im not wrong this hd2 seems like hd2 clone not original... so be very carefully when you try something with flashing ....
vegaobscura said:
Well, technically I didn't do anything.
I just bought an HD2 off Craiglist, T8585, previously unlocked, so it would already play nice with my AT&T.
It had some SPB shell on it, so I went in to do a full data wipe and it reboots into something not stock-sense.
I attempted to boot into the bootloader and nothing happens--it just boots normally.
((Vol. down does work normally, mind you--the button is not broken.))
Any ideas as to what might be going on? I'm trying to see if they have the stock bootloader on this still, but the non-stock reset is throwing me off, as is the fact that I can't actually boot into the bootloader.
If I hold down both volumte buttons, I get a tricolor+white screen with an error, "Error: Copying file from SD Card failed, system will shut down."
Pictures attached to show current home-screen and error screen.
Thanks for your help.
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wats d purpose of you wanting to check bootloader ?
I assume all you want back is Sense UI ?
Sense UI would be a start, yes, but I would have liked to flash WP7 and/or Android onto it, too.
Emm, i think that thats not HTC HD 2, thats MKT HD2, a clone looks almost 1:1 compared to htc hd 2.
vegaobscura said:
Sense UI would be a start, yes, but I would have liked to flash WP7 and/or Android onto it, too.
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Simply go to Start--Settings--
home--Items--Check HTC Sense and uncheck all the rest
that should do...
also if it is an hd2 and you have wm on it there are many endkeys / apps that have a reboot into bootloader.
ex:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786524
vegaobscura said:
Well, technically I didn't do anything.
I just bought an HD2 off Craiglist, T8585, previously unlocked, so it would already play nice with my AT&T.
It had some SPB shell on it, so I went in to do a full data wipe and it reboots into something not stock-sense.
I attempted to boot into the bootloader and nothing happens--it just boots normally.
((Vol. down does work normally, mind you--the button is not broken.))
Any ideas as to what might be going on? I'm trying to see if they have the stock bootloader on this still, but the non-stock reset is throwing me off, as is the fact that I can't actually boot into the bootloader.
If I hold down both volumte buttons, I get a tricolor+white screen with an error, "Error: Copying file from SD Card failed, system will shut down."
Pictures attached to show current home-screen and error screen.
Thanks for your help.
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from looking at the picture, its hard to tell if it is a clone...if it is not an HTC HD2, but rather a clone, more photos of the device would clarify it. the body is not clearly visible in the two pictures you've attached.
if it is a clone, that would explain the little "surprises" you are encountering here and there
Further investigation yields that the hard-reset ROM does not have Sense stock, so I'm guessing that this is, sadly, a clone.
I had no way to tell at the time, as the previous owner had some shell installed and I couldn't tell from the body alone--it looks like a real one, and it was advertised (and had the box/materials of) a legit HTC phone...
Sucks that I've been scammed and that I'm out the amount I paid. First time I've ever been burned off CL.
vegaobscura said:
Further investigation yields that the hard-reset ROM does not have Sense stock, so I'm guessing that this is, sadly, a clone.
I had no way to tell at the time, as the previous owner had some shell installed and I couldn't tell from the body alone--it looks like a real one, and it was advertised (and had the box/materials of) a legit HTC phone...
Sucks that I've been scammed and that I'm out the amount I paid. First time I've ever been burned off CL.
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how do you know its a clone ? may be the ROM is a NON-Sense D) ROM !!!
"MTKProfessional" is an appearance type on the phone. This, combined with the quirks and comparing it to a review of the "HD9" leads me to believe it's in fact a clone--and not even the pretty impressive v2 clone.
I'm disappointed, really.
it looks so real !
Holy ****, Vagues.
theres previous news & complain about the HD2 KIRF edition, almost look the same but weight & hardware quality is different.
try to get a refund
Sent an email. No response.
He obviously knew...further investigation yielded an account bearing his name on "asianfoneforums".
I'm disappointed in people right now, man.
vegaobscura said:
Sent an email. No response.
He obviously knew...further investigation yielded an account bearing his name on "asianfoneforums".
I'm disappointed in people right now, man.
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To be honest, I wouldn´t have noticed that you might have a clone just from the pictures you posted - but another poster discovered that fact.
Now, that´s what I call criminal - no less. A fake with a kind of a "phantasy" name is one thing, but to sell a copied device, which carries the real brand, as a real product, is indeed criminal. In my country, it´s even an official crime.
I´m sorry for you, mate. It´s not nice getting ripped off like this.
I wonder if you can't turn that guy in at the police.
I think you have all the evidence that he know this was a fake.
Also if you look at the loudspeaker grill (where you put your ear at), mine is black and this one looks silver.
seems like a clone to me. the sensors (light and proximity) are larger, and the bootloader screen is a bit different.
Hw do u know if one is a clone?

[Q] HD2 No OS

Hey there,
I'm looking to buy a used HD2, and came across one at a good price on Craigslist. The owner says that the phone has "no operating system installed" and needs a new ROM. I was planning on throwing Android onto the phone anyways, but do not want to buy a bricked phone.
The seller has a picture of the phone screen which I could PM but can't link to since I'm a new user. Basically, the screen is divided into 4 parts: red, green, blue, and white, and there is text on the top, red section. Does anyone know what this might mean?
Thanks.
its the bootloader, means it can be flashed by any rom, but form this tricolor screen you cannot check the phone condition.
It means that you can easily install winmo rom/android/winphone7.
For android, install MAGLDR when the phone is at that state: hold (Red button + Voldown button), and plug into computer.
Then, using cwm, you can install any of the android roms on here.
Make sure u ask the guy if everything else on the phone is in working condition, and the only problem with it is that there's no OS on it.
You guys forgot to mention that this could be a fake HD2 from China.
Can you post a picture of the tri-color screen so it can be verified.
Tbh I wouldn't really trust buying it either way if it doesnt currently have a rom on. It takes minutes to put one on and if the seller hasnt done this for purposes of selling it would make me suspicious, It could have bad hardware or a corrupted nand or anything.
Sold it to someone else, thanks for the help though!

[Q]Htc hd 2 stuck on boot.

Hello,
I recently bought a HTC HD 2 Tmobile from ebay .
The phone will not boot up.
When i start up the phone it leads me to the windows start up to the tmobile start up then back to the windows start up and stays there and i cannot do anything except take out the battery.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Sounds like you are stuck in a boot loop. There is a few things you can try.
First check the battery pins and make sure you do not have any that are bent out of alignment with the others or that is being hindered in anyway.
Next you can download the official Windows Mobile ROM from T-Mobile. You will have to enter the IMEI number, look under the battery for it. Once downloaded you can try to flash it via USB. Just put your HD2 into the bootloader by holding down the volume down button while powering on your HD2 and then connect it to your computer via USB cable. You will have to have Windows Mobile Device Center or Active Sync installed on your computer so you can get the USB Sync connection you need. Go to here to find a link to both, just choose the one you need for the type of windows you use. Anyway once you have your HD2 in bootloader and connected the serial in the bottom white bar of bootloader should change to USB, this means you have the USB Sync connection. When you see the USB you can right click on the ROM you downloaded from T-Mobile and run it as administrator. I do suggest you let your HD2 stay off and charge for a little while first though to make sure you have more than a 50% charge.
If that does not work you can try running a Task 29 and then repeating the above mentioned steps to flash the ROM again.
If this does not fix your problem you probably have hardware issues causing the boot loop.
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
H0n3yb43 said:
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
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the hardware issue would be overheating cpu, have to get a new main board via HTC warranty (if it is not voided due to water damage or dropped).
Android is easy to load. Fast/smooth you want a CyanogenMod7 ROM, you can find versions for SD or versions that you flash on the phone itself. You can either run Windows Mobile 6.5 then laucnch Android from SD (dual-boot), launch Android from SD with no Windows Mobile, launch Android flashed from internal storage, or flash Windows Phone 7 to internal storage and run Android from SD (dual-boot).
The tutorials are all in the HD2 Android forums and HD2 WP7 forums.
initially I would try a hard reset before getting too technical.
hold down volume up and down and switch on. keep holding volume buttons, when prompted press volume up. this will restore to out of he box settings ie remove all previous data on the phone.
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H0n3yb43 said:
Thank you so much for the reply. I will try the things you have listed. Even though i am a bit lost haha. If these steps dont work , what are some of the hardware issues that may be the cause of this? And i know this is random but can you help me load android onto my hd2? I have 2 2gb micro sd cards do i have to get a bigger card? Which android os would you recommend? Thats quick and smooth? Thx!
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As far as hardware issues go it is like XDA member orangekid said overheating is the predominant reason that comes to mind. Another thing is degraded prossesor connection or degradated flash/NAND chip connections. All of witch can only be fixed by main board replacement.
Yes I can help you "load" Android onto your HD2, just click the guide link ed in my Sig. I think everything you need to know is there. well except how to run Android fro SD card, hmmm maybe I should add that. Also you can go here for more links to very useful threads in the Android General Stickie Roll up thread.
Again I have to agree with XDA member orangekid, the CyanogenMod7 ROMs are pretty creaking awesome. But I do recomend the Hyperdroid ROM I have linked in my Sig. I have used it for my daily driver for months and the only real problem I have had is the latest update to the ROM the new updated market would not work properly I would have to go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications. Then find the market selerct it and then select Uninstall Updates. Oh and make sure you do not have the check box checked to aromatic update the market or you will have to do this everytime you use the market. I am currently testing the [17 Aug][SENSE3.0] Pyramid HTC WWE 1.35.401.1 - Real 3D [V2.1][RAF 1.9GB] ROM to sort of test the HTC Sensation's ROM and to check out HTC Sense 3.0.
As for your 2gig SD card no it will work but I do recomend you consider getting a 4 gig SD card. I have heard mixed results from 2 gig SD cards that people use to dual boot with. I personally have never used under a 4 gig SD card and have never had any trouble.
Thank you all for your replies.
I will Try out all the steps to fix my phone first. then i will try to load up android onto it and i will get back to you guys. i thanked all that have helped thank you so much. i will be back around sunday or monday with an update. wish me luck! oh one more question. would a 8gb be a good size micro sd card? or should i get a 16gb?
It really depends on how much space you'll think you'll need like, are you a person who takes a lot of pics or video, do you keep a lot of music on your phone? If you do then yes I would go with an 8gb. If not then you could really just use a 4gb sd card. I use a 8gb class 10 sd card myself and store a lot of pics, roms and backups and I haven't had the need to go back to a 16gb. Also you dont have to get a high speed card either, a class 4-6 is plenty.
If you decide to go the dual boot for Android I would look up a program found here on XDA called Rundroid. It will allow you to run many different Android builds from your sd card and is very simple to use. I would give the link but I'm not by a computer right now, sorry about that.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Hiii just an update . i did try to hard reset and it does reset but after i reset when it reboots it stays on the tmobile stick together logo.
and i just noticed if i leave it on like this and leave the battery the phone starts to get warm a bit on the back bottom side of the phone.
i will try the steps you gave me and see if it works. thanks.
I tried to restore by volume down+up and power and it reset but no boot. Pleasse help any one. i tried to do the bootloader ( my computer doesnt reconize my phone) it shows me all these codes. any help?
Heres a vid of my phone if it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2qQsSXPx-s
I dont want to comment on something and be wrong so with that I would take it to t-mobile and see if you can have it switched out under your warranty. I had a very similiar problem that it was stuck on the HTC/T-mobile splash screen and I sent mine in for repair through HTC. They fixed the issue and sent it back (for free), all I had to pay was shipping there. They do say that if they find something thats not covered under warranty like water damage/not the proper software they'll call and let you know if there will be a charge to fix it.
I will say that my bootloader and probabaly everyone elses dont look like yours. Just above the spl-2.08 mine says pb81120..also mine says Cotullahspl where yours does not. If you dont find what your looking for here on the site best bet is to send it in for repair. Even if T-mobile says you didn't buy the warranty or what ever you still may be covered through HTC. This also will apply even if you bought the phone used.
HTC repair can be found here.
were you not holding the volume down button when you turned on the phone?
I would just download/flash stock from that bootloader screen.
I was holdin the vol down and power and i bought it on ebay so.. idk if i have warenty.
Even if you bought the phone on ebay you still could have a warranty. In post 12 I linked HTC repair. If you call them you could find out if you do have a warranty on it or not. They'll ask if for the imei# and run it. Im not sure if its a two year or one year on the warranty but they'll be able to tell you that.
I bought a used HD2 on ebay as well. Mine was listed as broke and was stuck on the T-mobile splash screen. I asked for the imei# from the seller and then called HTC to find out if it still had a warranty which it did, so i bought it. I lucked out that my phone was covered under warranty, you may or may not have the same luck as i had.
Thank i did what you told me and they gave me a new motherboard on mine. Thanks alot

HD2 Bricked?

Last night, I noticed that ROM Manager had an update in the Android market
(512mb LEO with Typhoon Cyanogenmod). I hit the update button, and walked away for a while while my phone did its thing, as usual.
I returned about 15 minutes after and noticed that my HD2 was off. I could not, however, turn it back on.
Removing and replacing the battery did not help. The phone wouldn't charge via the wall socket.
My linux PC will not detect it (I checked my dmesg log when plugging in and turning on)
I left the battery out overnight, plugged the phone into the wall, put the battery inside. No luck.
I checked the battery voltage with a multimeter, and it reads about 3.9v.
I don't think it's the battery. I think my HD2 is somehow bricked! Is there anything I can do?
It's not under warranty any more, but if I send it for repair, do you think they will deny it (because it has Android on it)?
Enlighten me with your wisdom, XDA! I don't want to say goodbye to this amazing device!
xebozone said:
Last night, I noticed that ROM Manager had an update in the Android market
(512mb LEO with Typhoon Cyanogenmod). I hit the update button, and walked away for a while while my phone did its thing, as usual.
I returned about 15 minutes after and noticed that my HD2 was off. I could not, however, turn it back on.
Removing and replacing the battery did not help. The phone wouldn't charge via the wall socket.
My linux PC will not detect it (I checked my dmesg log when plugging in and turning on)
I left the battery out overnight, plugged the phone into the wall, put the battery inside. No luck.
I checked the battery voltage with a multimeter, and it reads about 3.9v.
I don't think it's the battery. I think my HD2 is somehow bricked! Is there anything I can do?
It's not under warranty any more, but if I send it for repair, do you think they will deny it (because it has Android on it).
Enlighten me with your wisdom, XDA! I don't want to say goodbye to this amazing device!
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Did you try holding the volume down button and turning on the phone....
It should take you to the tri colored screen...
If you get there the phone is not bricked
casemandan said:
Did you try holding the volume down button and turning on the phone....
It should take you to the tri colored screen...
If you get there the phone is not bricked
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Yes I have tried that. Alas, nothing...
Do you recon they will fix it even if Android was on it?
xebozone said:
Yes I have tried that. Alas, nothing...
Do you recon they will fix it even if Android was on it?
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It is a little late for me to mention this, seeing as you have sent your HD2 in for repairs all ready. But your power/end button may have stopped working, if you still had the your HD2 you could try pressing the reset button by the SD card slot and see if the device booted up then. But that is not an option now.
If all you did was update ROM Manager via the Android Market. Then it should not have bricked your HD2 in any shape form or fashion. Further more it should not have caused your HD2 to turn off either. I mean when you are running NAND Android on the HD2 you are pretty safe from bricking your HD2 because both MAGLDR, cLK, and the actual Android ROM is flashed to the ROM partition of the NAND memory and never touches the real SPL bootloader partition of the HD2.
Plus did you check your battery pins before sending it in? One might have been bent slightly. Or it could have been dirty battery terminals not allowing a good connection.
Point is I very much highly doubt your HD2 was bricked. You probably just missed judged your situation is all. As far as will they fix it? If you are willing to pay the fee they charge then yes.
T-Macgnolia said:
It is a little late for me to mention this, seeing as you have sent your HD2 in for repairs all ready. But your power/end button may have stopped working, if you still had the your HD2 you could try pressing the reset button by the SD card slot and see if the device booted up then. But that is not an option now.
If all you did was update ROM Manager via the Android Market. Then it should not have bricked your HD2 in any shape form or fashion. Further more it should not have caused your HD2 to turn off either. I mean when you are running NAND Android on the HD2 you are pretty safe from bricking your HD2 because both MAGLDR, cLK, and the actual Android ROM is flashed to the ROM partition of the NAND memory and never touches the real SPL bootloader partition of the HD2.
Plus did you check your battery pins before sending it in? One might have been bent slightly. Or it could have been dirty battery terminals not allowing a good connection.
Point is I very much highly doubt your HD2 was bricked. You probably just missed judged your situation is all. As far as will they fix it? If you are willing to pay the fee they charge then yes.
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Hah. I don't know where you assumed that I have already sent it in. I'm the kind of person who tried to fix it myself first
Pressing the reset button doesn't do anything. I tried holding it down while inserting the battery too, and nothing,
The battery pins do not appear to be bent or dirty. I gently pushed them upright, and down, and scraped the surface gently in case there was any layers of dirt, still nothing.
I have a sibling with an HD2. I can test the batteries later.
Do you think somehow, the NAND can be worn from multiple reads/writes until it dies? It is flash memory after all, and that last write from the update could have pushed it...
xebozone said:
Hah. I don't know where you assumed that I have already sent it in. I'm the kind of person who tried to fix it myself first
Pressing the reset button doesn't do anything. I tried holding it down while inserting the battery too, and nothing,
The battery pins do not appear to be bent or dirty. I gently pushed them upright, and down, and scraped the surface gently in case there was any layers of dirt, still nothing.
I have a sibling with an HD2. I can test the batteries later.
Do you think somehow, the NAND can be worn from multiple reads/writes until it dies? It is flash memory after all, and that last write from the update could have pushed it...
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Hmmm sorry I thought you had sent it in for repair already. Guess I miss read that, my bad man.
Yes NAND chips are rated for only a number of flashes. But that number is very high. I can not remember the exact numbers right now but hey that is what google is for right? But you did not flash a ROM you just uninstalled a app and then installed the updated version of that app. But then again I guess when you install or uninstall a app it is performing a some what similar action. Still though flashing a ROM is flashing a ROM, and installing a app is installing a app. One is a a lot different than the other.
My money is with your battery being bad. I mean like I said updating your ROM Manager should not have caused your HD2 to turn off at all. Try your sibling's battery and report back, I really hope that fixes it for you.
I haven't actually installed any Android ROM myself. But I did lots of WinMo ROM updates. What strikes me is that you installed a new ROM through the Android Market. Is that a normal procedure to upgrade an Android ROM on the HD2?
T-Macgnolia said:
Hmmm sorry I thought you had sent it in for repair already. Guess I miss read that, my bad man.
Yes NAND chips are rated for only a number of flashes. But that number is very high. I can not remember the exact numbers right now but hey that is what google is for right? But you did not flash a ROM you just uninstalled a app and then installed the updated version of that app. But then again I guess when you install or uninstall a app it is performing a some what similar action. Still though flashing a ROM is flashing a ROM, and installing a app is installing a app. One is a a lot different than the other.
My money is with your battery being bad. I mean like I said updating your ROM Manager should not have caused your HD2 to turn off at all. Try your sibling's battery and report back, I really hope that fixes it for you.
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Hmm... I have an interesting development.
I tried my sibling's battery, and it didn't help, but what I did notice is that the phone vibrates slightly when I turn it on (as it should), but it does so very weakly. So weakly that I need to put my ear against the phone to hear it.
I don't think it's the LCD, because the charging light still doesn't work.
It probably needs a new mobo.
Any suggestions before I take it in for repair?
Cenobite_ said:
I haven't actually installed any Android ROM myself. But I did lots of WinMo ROM updates. What strikes me is that you installed a new ROM through the Android Market. Is that a normal procedure to upgrade an Android ROM on the HD2?
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No, I didn't install a ROM on the market. It's an app called ROM Manager
xebozone said:
Hmm... I have an interesting development.
I tried my sibling's battery, and it didn't help, but what I did notice is that the phone vibrates slightly when I turn it on (as it should), but it does so very weakly. So weakly that I need to put my ear against the phone to hear it.
I don't think it's the LCD, because the charging light still doesn't work.
It probably needs a new mobo.
Any suggestions before I take it in for repair?
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Yeah I agree with you it sort of sounds like something in the main board has malfunctioned. My guess is the processor or the NAND chip one. I would just send it in for repair if I was you. Maybe your HD2 just finally died, I know it sucks. But if you are willing to pay for the repair then you should be back up and running in no time. I am assuming you plan to send it to HTC for repair right? If for some reason they do give you a hassle about Android being on your HD2 and will not repair it. Then contact me I might know somewhere you can get a new main board put in it.
I got my HD2 back today.
Apparently it's not worth fixing...
I also got robbed today... Just my luck.
I cannot afford any other phones atm, but what do u think would make a good candidate replacement for the future? I don't think any other phone has the same kind of mod-ability and support here at XDA, but I would be delighted if you could prove me wrong.
My friend has a Galaxy S2, which is cool, but it doesn't have notification LED :/
Is there much hacking/dev on the GS2?

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