WHY does the Nexus 4 / Android 4.2 shutter lag? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I mean seriously! ICS Galaxy Nexus had no shutter lag, then I heard for Jelly Bean or an ICS update they slowed it down a bit to focus better, but it seems with 4.2 the camera shutter speed is just beyond slow.. Anybody have a fix or agree with me?

warfexion said:
I mean seriously! ICS Galaxy Nexus had no shutter lag, then I heard for Jelly Bean or an ICS update they slowed it down a bit to focus better, but it seems with 4.2 the camera shutter speed is just beyond slow.. Anybody have a fix or agree with me?
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This is a hardware limitation. The lagless shutter was a feature of Samsung's hardware (much like in the Galaxy S3). It does NOT depend on software. For example, a SGSIII running AOSP will still have zero shutter lag.

Damn I never thought of that! But it still seems slow on my galaxy nexus with 4.2.1 Think this is another 4.2 bug that google has to fix?

tocirahl said:
This is a hardware limitation. The lagless shutter was a feature of Samsung's hardware (much like in the Galaxy S3). It does NOT depend on software. For example, a SGSIII running AOSP will still have zero shutter lag.
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Also interesting to add that if I use Camera JB + I have no shutter lag...

What shutter lag?
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0,0001ms didn't you noticed? P

Perhaps Samsung's memory is faster saves?
On my sgs3 i9300 I could snap as fast as I could press.

Did a clean install of cm10.1 with the actual cm camera app and the camera seems fast again.. something must have messed up when I have been flashing nightlys or possibly camera improvement mods.

It's not only hardware related, it's also related to the way the device focuses. Whenever you would set it's focus point to "infinite", you would have much less shutter lag than you'd have in, say, macro mode.

Camera ZOOM FX has four focus modes: auto, infinity, normal, and macro. I'm pretty sure I understand three of those, but what's "normal"? Presetting the focus to something like 4 feet? A duplicate of "auto"?

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Camera shutter lag

I've never had a nexus mobile device before but I was nearly tempted by the Galaxy Nexus. The thing I liked about that was that it had a zero lag camera shutter which was great for when you need to take a quick picture. Does the Nexus 4 have a zero lag shutter too? Does it allow many pictures to be taken in quick succession?
All the reviews and information I've read about the phone do not mention this which is why I feel doubtful that it's included.
I'm definitely upgrading to the N4 so it's not a deal breaker but would have been a nice bonus.
TIA
Anyone at all?
Techno79 said:
Anyone at all?
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just did a rough test for you and i got to 2 Mississippi before i could take another pic so there's a bit of a lag
If you are shooting in regular (non HDR) there isnt any lag past the focus, but the focus does take a second.
The zero shutter lag on the Galaxy Nexus was removed in an update, so now the camera app on both the GN and the N4 are practically identical and, yes, they do lag between the time you press the shutter and when the picture is actually taken.
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Try hitting the shutter button twice quickly. I snapped off 2 pics within a second of each other.
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Edit: just snapped some more in a row
Chrono_Tata said:
The zero shutter lag on the Galaxy Nexus was removed in an update, so now the camera app on both the GN and the N4 are practically identical and, yes, they do lag between the time you press the shutter and when the picture is actually taken.
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I wonder why they removed this for the GNex? A zero lag shutter on the phone's camera would make it 10x more useful for me. Oh well, I'll still be getting the N4 as it's a brilliant phone regardless. I'm sure the shutter lag is still better than my current SGS2.
Sorry to go off topic but does the gnex still have the option to shoot videos with the silly faces ? I wonder why it's not in the nexus 4.
I think zero shutter lag was removed because people were complaining that their pictures didn't focus properly, which was silly because you could hold down the shutter to force the picture to focus. It seems Google is not interested in bringing back the feature though which is a huge shame.
Pito2k6 said:
Sorry to go off topic but does the gnex still have the option to shoot videos with the silly faces ? I wonder why it's not in the nexus 4.
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I think this was removed from the GN in 4.2 as well.
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(Q) Does your Nexus have shutter lag? (Camera)

Just wondering if anyone else has quite a bit of shutter lag on their nexus camera? I personally do unfortunately, is this normal? Many people say theirs is instant .
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The N4 doesn't have a zero shutter lag for me either.
HDR setting will slow things down but will make the pictures nicer. Try toggling that and see if it helps.
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lag variation between N4s
Just bumping this topic. I recently started using burst mode on the CM10.1 camera, and noticed the shutter on my wife's camera is able to take twice as many pictures as mine in the same amount of time. She and I have nearly identical Nexus 4's.... both running CM10.1. I was using a custom kernel (Franco), so I reverted to the stock CM kernel, but the lag persisted. I'm hoping that it's some sort of software configuration issue... but it's starting to look like there is simply some variation in the Nexus 4's that have been manufactured. Can anyone else comment on the shutter speeds of their respective N4s? What ROM/Kernel combos are you all using?
I don't have this problem but sometimes when I use the camera right from the lock screen.. exit camera, go to gallery, exit come back to gallery after some time have pass, all my pictures are blank. I can't view them until i FC the gallery.. Occasionally when I go to the camera app, instead of the lock screen too.. Only bug, I know with my first nexus 4 and my replacement..
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It's of course going to vary on how well it can focus and what kind of focus mode you have.
With point and shoot cameras, the general advice in the past (back when they were a bit slower than they are now), was to eliminate as many automation possible (ie: if possible manually set iso, white balance, etc). Can also set the focusing mode to something else rather than continuous.
I'm not a huge fan of the camera's lag, but the quality is higher than past camera phones I've had, but because the sensor element is probably larger, it's probably more likely to delay as it gets better focus (Smaller sensor will have wider depth of field so won't need to take as much time to focus, but the clarity isn't as good either).
I kind of wish you could set stuff like shutter speed, f-stop and such on the N4's camera, but it doesn't really surprise me that I can't (besides just how many aperture stops could it possibly have in such a lens before diffraction hits it).

Increase camera shutter speed

Is there any way to increase the camera shutter speed? I want to capture pictures faster and clearer. Pictures I'm taking seem to have a tendency to blur if I don't have completely steady hands. It seems even slower than my GS2, and much slower than my gf's Note 2. I've tried some apps such as the highly rated procapture and camera fv-5 but with unsatisfying results. I just want to get more out of my phone not trying to insult the Nexus 4 or anything...so don't flame me. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
I agree with you. I wish to use the stock camera app. as it uses complete screen without any cluttered menus but its shutter speed is very slow..due to its focusing. I know ppl will flame by saying it needs time to focus but why does it has to be with Nexus 4 only? All other high spec'd phones cameras take shots very quickly. The hardware is of course very capable...its just the scripting of stock app I guess.
Moreover for the shaky pics.I use third party Cam Apps like Camera FZ Zoom and ProCapture (tried a few others too but they were just ok), the pictures turn out to be better than stock.
If only this is fixable, i have missed so many shots because of such long period to focusa nd then take a pic. Infact by the time that is done, i end up getting hazy pics anyways.
No. If there is someone hasn't come up with one. The specs of the camera is determined by the hardware and the software probably already uses it to its full capability despite other options which can be set by the user in the camera app.
I agree that the camera tends to default to slower shutter speeds. Of course faster shutter speeds raise ISO which results in more noise.
What was unsatisfactory about your experience with FV5. My recollection is that it allows you to hard set the ISO higher which will result in faster shutter speeds.
Also the 'action' mode on the stock camera will try to use faster shutter speeds as well.
Solutions Etcetera said:
I agree that the camera tends to default to slower shutter speeds. Of course faster shutter speeds raise ISO which results in more noise.
What was unsatisfactory about your experience with FV5. My recollection is that it allows you to hard set the ISO higher which will result in faster shutter speeds.
Also the 'action' mode on the stock camera will try to use faster shutter speeds as well.
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No matter what I do, it's just really slow. I really think it's just the camera's not that amazing. It's satisfactory and is be able to to take pictures though; I guess that's what counts. I mean this was a budget phone, how can you sell it for 349 off contract, that's amazing. You have to skimp somewhere. Doesn't hold a candle to the Note 2 though sadly. That phone can burst shot a whole bunch of pictures in a millisec. I hope I'm wrong though and our developers can figure out a way to improve this phone's camera.
caaznkid said:
No matter what I do, it's just really slow. I really think it's just the camera's not that amazing. It's satisfactory and is be able to to take pictures though; I guess that's what counts. I mean this was a budget phone, how can you sell it for 349 off contract, that's amazing. You have to skimp somewhere. Doesn't hold a candle to the Note 2 though sadly. That phone can burst shot a whole bunch of pictures in a millisec. I hope I'm wrong though and our developers can figure out a way to improve this phone's camera.
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+1
JamesInsights said:
No. If there is someone hasn't come up with one. The specs of the camera is determined by the hardware and the software probably already uses it to its full capability despite other options which can be set by the user in the camera app.
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Thats like the biggest joke! Software used to its full potential! Its a software! Can be fixed very well!
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Download FAST BURST CAMERA from app store. It will not only give you BURST MODE but also crazily increase the shutter speed. Try it.
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filthykid said:
Download FAST BURST CAMERA from app store. It will not only give you BURST MODE but also crazily increase the shutter speed. Try it.
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But at the cost of seriously downsampled resolution.
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I realized, that when you put the scene mode to sunset mode. the shutter speed will stick at 1/20 all the time. which is pretty good.
will be my default mode from here now on. dont worry about the white balance. its pretty ok.

Shutter Lag

This camera is supposed to be very good, so why am I having some shutter lag in all modes (even after a shot is focused)? My S3 and Note 2 had zero shutter lag.
vinuneuro said:
This camera is supposed to be very good, so why am I having some shutter lag in all modes (even after a shot is focused)? My S3 and Note 2 had zero shutter lag.
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Good question, I suppose the camera app needs updating and we need another software update.
i have the same lag with my camera. have odined a few times, on the latest ota update as well
vinuneuro said:
This camera is supposed to be very good, so why am I having some shutter lag in all modes (even after a shot is focused)? My S3 and Note 2 had zero shutter lag.
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Have you tried turning off Burst Shot?? I have no lag after turning it off. It still lags when the flash is on though.

[Q] GT-I9505 Was the rear camera lag ever fixed?

I used to own an S4 (I9505) when it was first released (4.2.2), however, after Sammy did a rear Camera Firware update the camera developed really slow shutter speed (lag), causing blurry pictures..
As Im now on WP8 (Lumia 920), Im thinking of buying an S4 (9505) as a backup when the mood takes me as I do like android, but sadly here in the UK, the 9500 is very rare and very expeensive, so question is:
Did sammy fix the shutter speed lag on the I9505, so pictures look like they do on the I9500.. crisp, clear and sharp with a fast shutter like the S3.
Thanks
NightOrchid said:
I used to own an S4 (I9505) when it was first released (4.2.2), however, after Sammy did a rear Camera Firware update the camera developed really slow shutter speed (lag), causing blurry pictures..
As Im now on WP8 (Lumia 920), Im thinking of buying an S4 (9505) as a backup when the mood takes me as I do like android, but sadly here in the UK, the 9500 is very rare and very expeensive, so question is:
Did sammy fix the shutter speed lag on the I9505, so pictures look like they do on the I9500.. crisp, clear and sharp with a fast shutter like the S3.
Thanks
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Yup

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