I've never had a nexus mobile device before but I was nearly tempted by the Galaxy Nexus. The thing I liked about that was that it had a zero lag camera shutter which was great for when you need to take a quick picture. Does the Nexus 4 have a zero lag shutter too? Does it allow many pictures to be taken in quick succession?
All the reviews and information I've read about the phone do not mention this which is why I feel doubtful that it's included.
I'm definitely upgrading to the N4 so it's not a deal breaker but would have been a nice bonus.
TIA
Anyone at all?
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just did a rough test for you and i got to 2 Mississippi before i could take another pic so there's a bit of a lag
If you are shooting in regular (non HDR) there isnt any lag past the focus, but the focus does take a second.
The zero shutter lag on the Galaxy Nexus was removed in an update, so now the camera app on both the GN and the N4 are practically identical and, yes, they do lag between the time you press the shutter and when the picture is actually taken.
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Try hitting the shutter button twice quickly. I snapped off 2 pics within a second of each other.
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Edit: just snapped some more in a row
Chrono_Tata said:
The zero shutter lag on the Galaxy Nexus was removed in an update, so now the camera app on both the GN and the N4 are practically identical and, yes, they do lag between the time you press the shutter and when the picture is actually taken.
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I wonder why they removed this for the GNex? A zero lag shutter on the phone's camera would make it 10x more useful for me. Oh well, I'll still be getting the N4 as it's a brilliant phone regardless. I'm sure the shutter lag is still better than my current SGS2.
Sorry to go off topic but does the gnex still have the option to shoot videos with the silly faces ? I wonder why it's not in the nexus 4.
I think zero shutter lag was removed because people were complaining that their pictures didn't focus properly, which was silly because you could hold down the shutter to force the picture to focus. It seems Google is not interested in bringing back the feature though which is a huge shame.
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Sorry to go off topic but does the gnex still have the option to shoot videos with the silly faces ? I wonder why it's not in the nexus 4.
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I think this was removed from the GN in 4.2 as well.
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What is the shutter lag when shooting HDR photos? I get the shutter sound instantly but if I move the camera quickly I get a blurred photo. Is it only me?
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HDR is a combination of different photos with different exposures, that's why there is some lag.
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HDR is a combination of different photos with different exposures, that's why there is some lag.
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I know what HDR is and I know why its slower, I'm asking if its unusually slower for me or if this is normal.
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Its normal, I get the same thing..
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If you know what it is, then you know the camera is taking at least 3 pictures in a row for it, there would be some lag.
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If you know what it is, then you know the camera is taking at least 3 pictures in a row for it, there would be some lag.
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But it feels like its taking more time to take those three pictures than it does to take three individual picture (it'll take more time to process but it shouldn't blur out). Might be some illusion in my head.
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But it feels like its taking more time to take those three pictures than it does to take three individual picture (it'll take more time to process but it shouldn't blur out). Might be some illusion in my head.
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Ideally HDR pictures require a tripod to ensure each frame is a perfect match. When you are hand holding a mobile phone each frame will be slightly different, and the end result is similar to any blurred shot where you have moved the camera during exposure.
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Just wondering if anyone else has quite a bit of shutter lag on their nexus camera? I personally do unfortunately, is this normal? Many people say theirs is instant .
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The N4 doesn't have a zero shutter lag for me either.
HDR setting will slow things down but will make the pictures nicer. Try toggling that and see if it helps.
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lag variation between N4s
Just bumping this topic. I recently started using burst mode on the CM10.1 camera, and noticed the shutter on my wife's camera is able to take twice as many pictures as mine in the same amount of time. She and I have nearly identical Nexus 4's.... both running CM10.1. I was using a custom kernel (Franco), so I reverted to the stock CM kernel, but the lag persisted. I'm hoping that it's some sort of software configuration issue... but it's starting to look like there is simply some variation in the Nexus 4's that have been manufactured. Can anyone else comment on the shutter speeds of their respective N4s? What ROM/Kernel combos are you all using?
I don't have this problem but sometimes when I use the camera right from the lock screen.. exit camera, go to gallery, exit come back to gallery after some time have pass, all my pictures are blank. I can't view them until i FC the gallery.. Occasionally when I go to the camera app, instead of the lock screen too.. Only bug, I know with my first nexus 4 and my replacement..
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It's of course going to vary on how well it can focus and what kind of focus mode you have.
With point and shoot cameras, the general advice in the past (back when they were a bit slower than they are now), was to eliminate as many automation possible (ie: if possible manually set iso, white balance, etc). Can also set the focusing mode to something else rather than continuous.
I'm not a huge fan of the camera's lag, but the quality is higher than past camera phones I've had, but because the sensor element is probably larger, it's probably more likely to delay as it gets better focus (Smaller sensor will have wider depth of field so won't need to take as much time to focus, but the clarity isn't as good either).
I kind of wish you could set stuff like shutter speed, f-stop and such on the N4's camera, but it doesn't really surprise me that I can't (besides just how many aperture stops could it possibly have in such a lens before diffraction hits it).
Hi folks,
Just bought my new Black Galaxy S4 (I9505) yesterday and enjoying every bit of it, but camera has been a great disappointment. I'm not sure why but the camera has some really bad lag. So much so, I have started thinking that S4 has some sort of issue with camera. I tried searching on the interent, and could not find any other complaints on S4's camera shutter.
Is there anyone else having the same issue? Let me explain the issue; when I take a picture on Auto mode (or any other mode), there is a lag between pressing the camera button and when the actual picture is taken. That is probably understandable due to auto focus (?), but most of the pictures come out blurry. Also, the frame I see in the view finder is not the same as the actual picture. I mean, the subject in the frame at the time of when I see the picture has been taken, does not come out the same when I look at the picture itself. I'm no camera expert so trying my best to explain it well. I have disabled every sort of fancy features in my camera, as well as the whole phone (air gesture, smart screen, etc) (although I'm sure that has nothing to do with the camera performance) but still the issue is still there.
Any suggestions on how to make it better. I take quite a lot of pictures and have been doing it on my S3 without any major complaints. In fact, I love SGS3 camera, and upgraded to S4 thinking it'll have a better camera, but that's not my experience till now.
Thanks!
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Hi folks,
Just bought my new Black Galaxy S4 (I9505) yesterday and enjoying every bit of it, but camera has been a great disappointment. I'm not sure why but the camera has some really bad lag. So much so, I have started thinking that S4 has some sort of issue with camera. I tried searching on the interent, and could not find any other complaints on S4's camera shutter.
Is there anyone else having the same issue? Let me explain the issue; when I take a picture on Auto mode (or any other mode), there is a lag between pressing the camera button and when the actual picture is taken. That is probably understandable due to auto focus (?), but most of the pictures come out blurry. Also, the frame I see in the view finder is not the same as the actual picture. I mean, the subject in the frame at the time of when I see the picture has been taken, does not come out the same when I look at the picture itself. I'm no camera expert so trying my best to explain it well. I have disabled every sort of fancy features in my camera, as well as the whole phone (air gesture, smart screen, etc) (although I'm sure that has nothing to do with the camera performance) but still the issue is still there.
Any suggestions on how to make it better. I take quite a lot of pictures and have been doing it on my S3 without any major complaints. In fact, I love SGS3 camera, and upgraded to S4 thinking it'll have a better camera, but that's not my experience till now.
Thanks!
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Menu, settings, about, software update. See if you have an update. There was one last week and part of it was an upgrade of the camera software I think.
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Menu, settings, about, software update. See if you have an update. There was one last week and part of it was an upgrade of the camera software I think.
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Thanks for the reply! I did upgrade the software as soon as I connected my phone to wifi. I think that was the only update ever since S4 launched. Any other suggestions? I do believe that this is not a common issue, I read some camera reviews and everyone seems to be praising the shutter speed, so they must be talking about a different camera than what I have
i have the same issue, i have newest software, just updated by ota. when i press sutter button i have to wait one second for picture is actually taken... so big lag, with s3 it was instant - zero shutter lag.
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i have the same issue, i have newest software, just updated by ota. when i press sutter button i have to wait one second for picture is actually taken... so big lag, with s3 it was instant - zero shutter lag.
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That's it! That is what I am experiencing. Not sure how to fix it. If you find anything, do let me know. I'm also looking around and trying different settings. My S3 had a super camera with no lags and pictures come out crisp, that's not what I'm getting with S4.
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Is the delay there when you use the voice command?
At least I am not alone. Thanks to everyone who replied. Can someone disable "auto night detection" in camera settings and see if it makes any difference? I tried changing this setting and do feel some difference but cannot tell for sure. I have seen that when you take a picture in dark and when auto night detection is enabled, shutter speed is a lot faster than usual.
I am hoping we'll find some answer within the existing phone/camera settings and dont have to hack the camera, or in worst case, change the phone.
Thanks!
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When focusing instead of letting the phone do it tap screen let it lock on then take the picture, I've had no problems using the camera on my phone pics have come out sharp.
But i do agree the camera software itself still needs abit of work doing yet, this will more likely get sorted out in future updates.
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When focusing instead of letting the phone do it tap screen let it lock on then take the picture, I've had no problems using the camera on my phone pics have come out sharp.
But i do agree the camera software itself still needs abit of work doing yet, this will more likely get sorted out in future updates.
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I see no difference between manual tapping and auto focus. The problem is still there. Thanks for the reply anyway.
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Is the delay there when you use the voice command?
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Yes, I just tried voice control and the problem still exists. Thanks!!
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+1 after using my camera for the first real time out with friends yesterday, got some real mixed results, some ok, but a lot blurry, even in good lighting
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+1 after using my camera for the first real time out with friends yesterday, got some real mixed results, some ok, but a lot blurry, even in good lighting
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Same here! I took quite a few pictures today outside in sunny weather and was very disappointed to see some blurry shots. Never had any such complaint from S3 camera. This is very disappointing. I hope samsung do something about it.
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Also, your hand has to be VERY still to take pictures that are in focus are not blurry. Rather disappointed as the software is absolutely awesome.
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Complaining here won't help - you all have to spam Samsung with lots of emails.
This is not something that is going to get fixed with a software update, maybe improved but not fixed. Having a 13 MP camera using tiny lens and sensor will inherently cause a situation where it takes longer to gather a sufficient amount of light, hence longer exposure times and slower shutter speeds. This is the price to pay for being able to capture lots of detail out of a tiny camera. The S4's camera should not be used to capture moving targets.
Bought this app as part of the Play Store sales that just happened. So far it's the best camera app I've tried with the N5. UI is decent, solid amount of features, and shutter speed seems much improved for me.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neaststudios.procapture
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A couple pics using it. Again, shutter speed is much faster and it doesn't seem to effect low light pics.
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Just picked this up, seems faster and focuses better (even though it shows the red focus indicator, it's usually still focused properly.)
Yeah, I found the same, especially in macro mode (all the beer related pics above were in macro with a red focus square).
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Yeah, I found the same, especially in macro mode (all the beer related pics above were in macro with a red focus square).
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I'm glad you posted this, most of the camera apps I've tried, even those that have been updated for Nexus 5 and 4.4 compatibility all seemed to act weird when tapping to focus, the exposure on screen would flash really dark and often times stay dark.
This doesn't seem to have that issue, so thanks!
Heres a few random macro/close up shots I took.
Just tried it out much better than the stock camera app in my opinion will be using this one
Can confirm this app rocks! Much much better focus speed and picture quality too. Its on sales now ( I'm not promoting for this app )
Thank you very much for this find!
I have tried so many different camera apps (cameraFX, Camera Awesome,...) until now, and none of them did work out really well.
This one is fast in autofocus, Burst Mode is working and the pictures look great!
Another happy user here, came from iPhone 5 , very happy except camera , that's been solved with this app
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Tried the free app... Bought the paid version within 5 minutes. Until Google comes with a fix for the camera, this is going to be my default camera app. Thank you OP. Great find...!!!
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+1 for this app.
ive been using this for 3 YEARS. and never let me down,
actually it composes with better resolution
stock camera : 1.95 MB photo, slight bulrry good quality
procapture: 2-3MB, Good lighting and awesome quality
Is there HDR+?
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Is there HDR+?
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It has a reduced noise option that takes two pictures then merges them together.
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Holy [email protected]! This app is a HUGE improvement over the stock camera! Thanks to y'all for pointing it out and recommending it/ showing it off! :highfive:
Just bought it. It was 99 cents so I guess not a big deal to try out. I noticed the auto focus isn't great but tap to focus works better than stock. Is it supposed to have a native video recorder? When I clicked "camcorder" it tried opening my stock video camera and then crashed. Also, I'm not sure if the "reduced noise" is usable. It's fairly slow to take the pic as well as to process it.
EDIT: Nevermind about the video, just read on the app page it doesn't support it.
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+1 for this app.
ive been using this for 3 YEARS. and never let me down,
actually it composes with better resolution
stock camera : 1.95 MB photo, slight bulrry good quality
procapture: 2-3MB, Good lighting and awesome quality
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Same here. My camera app of choice for a few years now.
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Just bought it. It was 99 cents so I guess not a big deal to try out. I noticed the auto focus isn't great but tap to focus works better than stock. Is it supposed to have a native video recorder? When I clicked "camcorder" it tried opening my stock video camera and then crashed. Also, I'm not sure if the "reduced noise" is usable. It's fairly slow to take the pic as well as to process it.
EDIT: Nevermind about the video, just read on the app page it doesn't support it.
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Well, the HDR+ in the stock camera app mode take longer to process too.
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Well, the HDR+ in the stock camera app mode take longer to process too.
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Sorry, I meant that the "reduced noise" in the app takes much longer to process than HDR+
Nice app 10x
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Can anyone provide some detail or a video of how fast the shutter speed is on the G4? I have a galaxy s6 now and love that I can capture my kids and dog running around without any blurring. The camera is impressive. Can the G4 compete in that regard? Any sample photos?
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Seems real fast to me. My wife has the gs5 active and seems just as fast. Came from a nexus 5 that took 5-10 seconds to focus so it seems like lightning to me. Hope that helps
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Laser focus helps keeping objects Sharp and crisp real quick. That alone might improve your moving target less blurred.
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On good light condition, it's really fast focus.
I have them both and s6 camera feels more complete. Lg needs to do lots of work in the software field.
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Can anyone provide some detail or a video of how fast the shutter speed is on the G4? I have a galaxy s6 now and love that I can capture my kids and dog running around without any blurring. The camera is impressive. Can the G4 compete in that regard? Any sample photos?
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The Samsung camera software has been really good for a long time. I agree that the LG camera software is lacking in the polished department compared to Samsung. It's not too bad once you get used to the layout though.
Software aside, I found the S6 camera to be slightly faster than the G4. Both take incredible pictures for a phone, but the S6 snaps instantly with zero delay while there is a very short delay in the G4 in auto mode. It is very close though. You'll only notice the delay coming from an S6. Most G4 users probably don't notice.
Honestly, I actually preferred the S6 auto mode over the G4 auto mode. The S6 seemed to focus more accurately on quick shots. I'm hooked on the G4 manual mode with auto focus though. It more than makes up for the occasional errant focus. The S6 had them occasionally too, but less often.
As far as shutter speed goes, the G4 allows adjustment from 30 seconds down to 1/6000 of a second, so I think it can probably snap as fast as you'd ever need. I'll do some testing with it at the kids' sports games this week. It doesn't matter how quick the shutter speed is if it can't get the focus right when you need it...
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The Samsung camera software has been really good for a long time. I agree that the LG camera software is lacking in the polished department compared to Samsung. It's not too bad once you get used to the layout though.
Software aside, I found the S6 camera to be slightly faster than the G4. Both take incredible pictures for a phone, but the S6 snaps instantly with zero delay while there is a very short delay in the G4 in auto mode. It is very close though. You'll only notice the delay coming from an S6. Most G4 users probably don't notice.
Honestly, I actually preferred the S6 auto mode over the G4 auto mode. The S6 seemed to focus more accurately on quick shots. I'm hooked on the G4 manual mode with auto focus though. It more than makes up for the occasional errant focus. The S6 had them occasionally too, but less often.
As far as shutter speed goes, the G4 allows adjustment from 30 seconds down to 1/6000 of a second, so I think it can probably snap as fast as you'd ever need. I'll do some testing with it at the kids' sports games this week. It doesn't matter how quick the shutter speed is if it can't get the focus right when you need it...
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Thank you very much for the information. I look forward to hearing back
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Thanks everyone!
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Laser focus helps keeping objects Sharp and crisp real quick. That alone might improve your moving target less blurred.
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Yea, but the G3 also had laser focus, and was pretty bad in regards to shutter speed. Was hoping for a big improvement. Nobody ever mentions shutter speed comparisons in phone reviews and it's annoying. It's a huge factor for me.
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Yea, but the G3 also had laser focus, and was pretty bad in regards to shutter speed. Was hoping for a big improvement. Nobody ever mentions shutter speed comparisons in phone reviews and it's annoying. It's a huge factor for me.
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I've taken a number of nice pictures of my kids, and so far the camera seems really nice and capable. I don't have the S6, so I can't really speak to it in comparison (after Note 4 LP experience I had, I don't think I'll buy another Sammy). It takes them faster than any other device I've had. The picture quality is better than any phone I've owned (and if you look at my signature, I've owned some from virtually every manufacturer).
I haven't noticed any lag on taking a picture. I'll admit I've mainly used it to take pictures during the daytime.
anybody feels like the g4 camera has too much noise indoors, everything auto?
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anybody feels like the g4 camera has too much noise indoors, everything auto?
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I've had a couple pictures do that...it kinda felt like it was focusing on the background instead of what I was trying to take a picture of at first...I just tapped on screen where I wanted to focus seemed to fix.
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It doesn't matter how quick the shutter speed is if it can't get the focus right when you need it...
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Keep 2 meteres distance from the subject. set focus to infinity. Everything at 2m and beyond is in focus and anything closer than 2m will be soft. Make sure you keep that distance if they are moving. This means you're on your feet and moving with them.
The next bit is shutter speed. 1/125, slower will make things soft.
Resize to 2MP. If light is low you will get a noisy image but resizing will reduce the noise and it will be sharper.
Focus speed is never really an issue even with older devices as you can focus on something where they are and recompose by keeping your finger pressed on the shutter button. The problem has always been about getting a fast enough shutter speed and sensitivity, these are high iso images by definition anyway.
One way to reduce shutter speed is how they move across the frame. moving straight across requires the fastest shutter, at an angle means slower, moving in a backwards or forwards motion is the easiest. The fewer pixels that move the slower the shutter can be.
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I've had a couple pictures do that...it kinda felt like it was focusing on the background instead of what I was trying to take a picture of at first...I just tapped on screen where I wanted to focus seemed to fix.
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That's not what noise is, sounds like you're talking about photos being out of focus.
To the other posted, I've seen this as well. Even outdoors at ISO 100, there is a lot of noise in the photos.
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That's not what noise is, sounds like you're talking about photos being out of focus.
To the other posted, I've seen this as well. Even outdoors at ISO 100, there is a lot of noise in the photos.
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Excuse my photo-related ignorance.