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canada/usa users opinion plz :-)

ok, i am pretty happy with my x10a but will be travelling to key west florida in about a month. what id like to know is whats the latest android device in the usa with a hard keyboard? ive heard about the droid global but not much. im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology so id like to pickup a new device as good or better than the x10. i do a massive amount of texting which is why im thinking of the hard keyboard option. i am also with rogers canada so i would need advice as to what phones would even be compatible on their network, and obiously be able to sim unlock it.
i look forward to your guys opinion, as im lost on devices outside of canada thanks guys!
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ptesmoke said:
im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.

batman_112 said:
The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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currently on Rogers there is nothing special .

ptesmoke said:
lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.

batman_112 said:
at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers? i understand rogers is 850 and 1900mhz for both gsm and umts...
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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ptesmoke said:
so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers?
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700. Most European/Asian/Middle Eastern countries use 2100. South America and Australia, use a mix of both depending on the operator.

batman_112 said:
For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700.
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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ptesmoke said:
ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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Yeah, definitely SIM unlocked so you can switch between Rogers and at&t.

so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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any suggestions?
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ptesmoke said:
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from

ptesmoke said:
any suggestions?
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You could go into a AT&T store while you are here, and get a free "GO" phone which is a monthly prepaid thing for your stay. And get a Google Voice number before you leave.
Leave the X10 connected and set it to forward the calls to the Google Voice (I don't know if Rogers would charge you for this or you would need a US google number or not) and link the Google Voice to your temporary Go phone. Depending on how much you were willing to pay, you could get a free flip phone or pay for anything up to a blackberry.
You would need access at least once to a PC after getting the phone to reconfigure Google to transfer the calls and SMS the phone with the texted version of any voice message.
Even Walmart has these too: http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Nokia-C3-Prepaid-GoPhone-Blue/15140306

the HTC desire Z seems like a viable option!

To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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alankstiyo said:
you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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right but im looking for a replacement so id need a device that would work on the rogers bands. desire z eh? well i wont buy from bell, they overcharge for everything. whats the selling points on the desire z? and who sells them in the key west area that would work on rogers?
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badhobz said:
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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yea rogers was quick with the x10 but that was about it! they seem to be pushing the crapple4 lately, they keep offering me deals on them but they dont realize theyd have to pay ME to take one..
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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ptesmoke said:
ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well

Rockjock007 said:
Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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well im not worried about warranty as ive never used it, i usually buy a new device every year anyways. but i need to figure out if i can find a desire z in the u. s for cheaper..
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[Q] Imported Xperia Play

Hey there, im buying a xperia play of somebody and getting it before uk launch. Im sure he's got it from the US but anyway... do you think it will work with my 3 UK sim or can I flash a uk rom or something to it when I get it? Thanks
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replicant101 said:
Hey there, im buying a xperia play of somebody and getting it before uk launch. Im sure he's got it from the US but anyway... do you think it will work with my 3 UK sim or can I flash a uk rom or something to it when I get it? Thanks
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Just make sure it's not sim locked mate
Regards

As said above as long as the phone is sim unlocked and uses GSM. Not CDMA.
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[Q] will 3G work if an LT15a rom is dumped to an Lt15i Device ?

im in the usa but the Arc(LT15i) 3G will not work in the usa.
the question is if i buy the LT15i now and dump the LT15a rom on it when it is released , will the 3G work ?

Simply, No.

alsaqr said:
im in the usa but the Arc(LT15i) 3G will not work in the usa.
the question is if i buy the LT15i now and dump the LT15a rom on it when it is released , will the 3G work ?
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If I understand your question right, the answer is NO. 3G is hardware dependable and if you don't have it no matter what ROM you put on, it won't work. You need to wait for a LT15a cellphone. Soon, just wait a little bit and you can get one from Rogers in Canada probably on eBay.

thnx
i recall on the x10i that it was flashed with the x10a to get the 3G working on AT&T
and vice versa with the X10a Flashed with X10i to work in international countries.
but you are saying that it is a hardware issue, so now im confused. i sold my x10 and now im with a prehistoric phone waiting on the decision whether to wait for the Arc LT15a or just get the LT15i.
one other thing im not sure if there will be an unlocked LT15a
thanks for the info anyway

Sorry if I shattered your dream but unfortunately it is hardware frequencies that stops it from changing.
I am also waiting for LT15a and I will get Rogers and unlock it on ebay. I bought my X10 when it came out in Canada last year the same way.
Good Luck.

If you are asking if you buy an LT15i will it work on ATT 3G --> NO
If you are asking if you have an LT15a and flash a LT15i ROM on it will it work? --> Probably.

no i basically want to buy an LT15i and flash it with a LT15a to get 3G to work in the USA .
im giving myself a week to see if the LT15a is released

alsaqr said:
no i basically want to buy an LT15i and flash it with a LT15a to get 3G to work in the USA .
im giving myself a week to see if the LT15a is released
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It will NOT work. So do not waste your money. The 3G frequencies are hardware related and not software related. For example, if you have a Comcast set-top box you can't get DirecTV programming even if you dump the DirecTV set-top box software onto the Comcast set-top box. Why is that I hear you wondering? Well, because you need a satellite dish to get DirecTV programming. I hope my point came across.

hi
ok thanks for the info guys . luckly i didnt go ahead and buy the LT15i. iguess i will wait for the LT15a .

Does anybody know when the us unlocked version will be out? Any online stores that have it? Thanks

markogin said:
Does anybody know when the us unlocked version will be out? Any online stores that have it? Thanks
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Not yet. Canada/Rogers will release the phone before the end of this month but locked and you can simply unlock it. no news from the US

Nimche said:
Not yet. Canada/Rogers will release the phone before the end of this month but locked and you can "simply" unlock it. no news from the US
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I just made a thread about the 3G not working the US for this phone. Unlocking it might be only option. Since it's simple I might run to you for answers when the time comes. Let's all hope soon, because I want this phone and after spending 3 hours shopping for others because I thought this phone just wouldn't work out because of the 3G problems and wifi issues I'm glad to see there's still hope.

alsaqr said:
i recall on the x10i that it was flashed with the x10a to get the 3G working on AT&T
and vice versa with the X10a Flashed with X10i to work in international countries.
but you are saying that it is a hardware issue, so now im confused. i sold my x10 and now im with a prehistoric phone waiting on the decision whether to wait for the Arc LT15a or just get the LT15i.
one other thing im not sure if there will be an unlocked LT15a
thanks for the info anyway
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I could have SWORE I saw that as well and I remember because I was pretty amazed that they could do that as I always thought that it was hardware depended as well, but I did see that as OP is saying. Color me curious.

solidkevin said:
I could have SWORE I saw that as well and I remember because I was pretty amazed that they could do that as I always thought that it was hardware depended as well, but I did see that as OP is saying. Color me curious.
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i wish it was possible
i would get the LT15i today and just dump the LT15a rom on it. but they have said that it is a hardware thing

Anyone has tried it to chance a LT15i rom to an LT15a rom yet? because I saw on ebay Spain a LOT of less price for the Arc vs ebay USA.
Thanks

That would be nice, wouldn't it? There would also be no need for Sony Ericsson to make an LT15i and an LT15a. They would make just one, and dish out different ROMs for different regions and carriers (T-Mo, hello!).
So, NO! It wont work.

When the heck will Canada get ICS for their GT-P7500R?

Enough already.....when is this thing gonna be released?

Probably sometime after they are done with the U.S. Be patient.

BretonGirl said:
Probably sometime after they are done with the U.S. Be patient.
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Ha, that's just plain funny. Back in May when Mobile Syrup (quite wrongly) announced Canada was getting the ics update for the gtab 10.1 by the end of the week, there were literally pages of Americans *****ing and complaining about how it was unfair that Canada should get it first.
As per normal, you got it first and are telling a Canuck to be patient!!!!!! LOL!!!
p.s with a name like BretonGirl are you originally from Cape Breton?
Edit. Love your reply in the jb thread too!
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When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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nxdark said:
When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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Telus is the same - they need to go through all of this "internal testing". Man I'm on AOSP Jellybean and am so happy I'm almost not caring when and if it comes out. I might flash back to my stock unrooted Nandroid just to do the update for experience's sake when it does happen.

jmitr said:
Ha, that's just plain funny. Back in May when Mobile Syrup (quite wrongly) announced Canada was getting the ics update for the gtab 10.1 by the end of the week, there were literally pages of Americans *****ing and complaining about how it was unfair that Canada should get it first.
As per normal, you got it first and are telling a Canuck to be patient!!!!!! LOL!!!
p.s with a name like BretonGirl are you originally from Cape Breton?
Edit. Love your reply in the jb thread too!
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I hold dual Canadian/US citizenship and my family is from Cape Breton, yes. We had to be patient too while Europe and the UK got it first. I never complained. I suggest complaining to your carrier. I bet they are busy shoving as much of their crapware into it as possible. Most carriers love doing that.

Just install the uk one, it works perfect with rogers
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Yep, what dishme said.
dishme said:
Just install the uk one, it works perfect with rogers
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BretonGirl said:
I hold dual Canadian/US citizenship and my family is from Cape Breton, yes. We had to be patient too while Europe and the UK got it first. I never complained. I suggest complaining to your carrier. I bet they are busy shoving as much of their crapware into it as possible. Most carriers love doing that.
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Cool,
I am actually very happy with my tablet as is, much better than my Wife's ipad2. I am looking forward to better app compatability, configurable screenshot button, editable mini app tray etc....but that can wait.
I have the wifi version so no carrier to complain to, not that I would anyways my post was meant as laughing at others been impatient (Yanks and Canucks).
Cape Breton is awesome, I used to fly for Air Nova and was based in Halifax with tonnes (or metric fucton????) of Sydney overnights.
Take care,
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Roger/Telus/Fido
nxdark said:
When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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djmatt604 said:
Telus is the same - they need to go through all of this "internal testing". Man I'm on AOSP Jellybean and am so happy I'm almost not caring when and if it comes out. I might flash back to my stock unrooted Nandroid just to do the update for experience's sake when it does happen.
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They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido....Which is why you can switch from one to another just by swapping Sim cards on a carrier sim locked device. Found that out when I was unlocking my G1 got an old telus Sim and try to use an unlock code , it was already unlocked for telus, and fido. but the At&t sim from ebay forced the unlocke pin query.
You'll get ICS/JB on an update from rogers when you fork over anonter couple hundred$$$$$ for new hardware.
tg
P.S if it sounds like I'm anti Rogers ....you should stand way back when I talk about Bell..

ndsuloi carry
tommygHTCdream said:
They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido.....
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I'm pretty sure that Bell owns Telus. I know that Telus uses Bell towers for its signal. Your correct that Rogers owns Fido.
I have Rogers for my cell and Telus for my 3g tab 10.1. I can have no signal on my Rogers phone but have 3 bars on my Tab so they are definitely on different towers.
Telus keeps saying they are going to upgrade the Tab and then pushing the date back.
I think developers had forgotten about Honeycomb on Tablets and I wanted to be back on the main path of Android so I thought I would try rooting.
Now on the CM10 experiment by Pershoot and its great. Exactly the reason I will continue to buy Android products. I don't have to rely on some big stupid corporation, I can go to the great developer community and find all kinds of awesome stuff to run on my devices.
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Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean
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Pershoot CM10 JB preview build 0811
Gapps-jb-20120729
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1787399

tommygHTCdream said:
They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido....Which is why you can switch from one to another just by swapping Sim cards on a carrier sim locked device. Found that out when I was unlocking my G1 got an old telus Sim and try to use an unlock code , it was already unlocked for telus, and fido. but the At&t sim from ebay forced the unlocke pin query.
You'll get ICS/JB on an update from rogers when you fork over anonter couple hundred$$$$$ for new hardware.
tg
P.S if it sounds like I'm anti Rogers ....you should stand way back when I talk about Bell..
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Rogers does own fido however they do not own Telus. Nor does Bell own Telus. However Bell and Telus have an agreement where out west Bell uses Telus towers and out east Telus uses Bell towers.
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Telus
Well call me stupid ( should use Google search more), Telus is indeed a separate company not associated with Bell or Rogers.
Though I do remember an article 5-6 years back about Rogers buying a portion of Telus. That may have just been an investment by the financial arm of Rogers( diversity is a good thing).
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They're all bullcrap. They all need to push updates sooner.

nxdark said:
Rogers does own fido however they do not own Telus. Nor does Bell own Telus. However Bell and Telus have an agreement where out west Bell uses Telus towers and out east Telus uses Bell towers.
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Well, someone got it correct!
Bell and Telus used to be cdma carriers, when they wanted to launch their hspa network a few years ago they agreed to share the cost by building a network together, hence the "Bellus" term! But.....they are two very separate companies and are going their separate ways with lte.
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Rogers announced an update schedule. On there it says that the tab 10.1 and tab 8.9 would be updated in september.
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Pre-Order Z1 and Z Ultra at SonyStyle.com now BUT...

Z1 is only the HSPA+ version (C6902), wtfbbq...
Z Ultra has LTE

akak1997 said:
Z1 is only the HSPA+ version (C6902), wtfbbq...
Z Ultra has LTE
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Actually what do you want to know?
Yes it may be in your country. Both are from different stable, will you buy one based on Network?

Yeah, I was all but ready to push buy until I caught that it was C6902 -- why wouldn't they offer C6906? -- Is that Rogers/Canada only or something?

komugi said:
Yeah, I was all but ready to push buy until I caught that it was C6902 -- why wouldn't they offer C6906? -- Is that Rogers/Canada only or something?
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Probably going to offer it a while later....

This was depressing this morning. I have been waiting for the C6906 too, but now my fear is that it will be a T-mobile exclusive like the Z was. Or, maybe it's just delayed, but hopefully we can find a way to order from Canada.
I found the C6903 below the $649 asking price from the Sony store, so it's not the end of the world. Glad to see these aren't in the $700's this time around.
-Collin-

komugi said:
Yeah, I was all but ready to push buy until I caught that it was C6902 -- why wouldn't they offer C6906? -- Is that Rogers/Canada only or something?
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usa tmobile will be release z1 c6906
I think that is why sony website only sell c6902

paullu said:
usa tmobile will be release z1 c6906
I think that is why sony website only sell c6902
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Hmm... I would hate to have a Sony Z1 with a T-Mobile (or any carrier logo) on there. Is there a way to remove it? Is it attached the protector?

CollinFX45 said:
This was depressing this morning. I have been waiting for the C6906 too, but now my fear is that it will be a T-mobile exclusive like the Z was. Or, maybe it's just delayed, but hopefully we can find a way to order from Canada.
I found the C6903 below the $649 asking price from the Sony store, so it's not the end of the world. Glad to see these aren't in the $700's this time around.
-Collin-
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The C6903 runs on T-Mobile's LTE. The C6906 is for AT&T LTE.

I bought c6902 I thought its lte version now while rooting I realized it's hspa+ version very sad
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I bought the C6903 through eBay but not getting good LTE signal with T-Mobile whereas the G2 got great signal in the same areas