In short, I want to use my Nexus 10 to play games on my Windows desktop, on the same network. I have a 5GHz router + Gigabit Ethernet, so the connection should (hopefully) be fine.
There are only two programs that I'm aware of that should be able to do this. Kainy, and Splashtop 2. Both programs have their own issues though.
With Kainy, if I use anything above Fair image quality, either the top or bottom-half of the screen on the N10 will be corrupted. Also it seems there is a decent amount of audio delay (video is fine, audio is behind), and the framerate on the N10 seems to drop drastically randomly.
With Splashtop 2, it works for the most part, except input is always treated as a tablet. For example, with just my N10 at all, if I try turning the camera on any 3D game, it will "spaz out" and go every which way and not behave as intended. If I plug in a USB mouse to my N10, it will do the same exact thing (I guess mouse input on Android is still seen as touch).
Not sure if there's any known fixes for the above issues I ran into (if there is, I'd love to hear ) but is there any other programs available that might help me be able to stream PC games to my Nexus 10 at decent framerate?
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In short, I want to use my Nexus 10 to play games on my Windows desktop, on the same network. I have a 5GHz router + Gigabit Ethernet, so the connection should (hopefully) be fine.
There are only two programs that I'm aware of that should be able to do this. Kainy, and Splashtop 2. Both programs have their own issues though.
With Kainy, if I use anything above Fair image quality, either the top or bottom-half of the screen on the N10 will be corrupted. Also it seems there is a decent amount of audio delay (video is fine, audio is behind), and the framerate on the N10 seems to drop drastically randomly.
With Splashtop 2, it works for the most part, except input is always treated as a tablet. For example, with just my N10 at all, if I try turning the camera on any 3D game, it will "spaz out" and go every which way and not behave as intended. If I plug in a USB mouse to my N10, it will do the same exact thing (I guess mouse input on Android is still seen as touch).
Not sure if there's any known fixes for the above issues I ran into (if there is, I'd love to hear ) but is there any other programs available that might help me be able to stream PC games to my Nexus 10 at decent framerate?
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I don't know if teamviewer would work... maybe you should give a try.
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I don't know if teamviewer would work... maybe you should give a try.
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I've tried it in the past, but I believe the framerate was... horrible, even on LAN.
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I've tried it in the past, but I believe the framerate was... horrible, even on LAN.
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Splashtop has an app designed for this. Splashtop THD I think it's called.
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Splashtop has an app designed for this. Splashtop THD I think it's called.
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THD is for tegra devices, am I right?
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THD is for tegra devices, am I right?
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It is, but the app works (and can be purchased for) on the N10 strangely...
In any case, the THD version "does" work, but it puts a virtual joystick on-screen for camera controls it seems (I only tried it with the WoW profile). But touchscreen and mouse turning were still an issue.
I emailed Splashtop 2's support about it and they said it was something they were looking into.
The Kainy developer mentioned on his forums that the next version should fix some issues, which I'm hoping will fix the issues I'm having.
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It is, but the app works (and can be purchased for) on the N10 strangely...
In any case, the THD version "does" work, but it puts a virtual joystick on-screen for camera controls it seems (I only tried it with the WoW profile). But touchscreen and mouse turning were still an issue.
I emailed Splashtop 2's support about it and they said it was something they were looking into.
The Kainy developer mentioned on his forums that the next version should fix some issues, which I'm hoping will fix the issues I'm having.
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I'll look forward to that update then. Just wondering, why would you play wow on tablet if you got it on pc? Is the hardware on the n10 better than your computer?
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I'll look forward to that update then. Just wondering, why would you play wow on tablet if you got it on pc? Is the hardware on the n10 better than your computer?
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It's just streaming, not actually on the device. So you could play WoW or other games away from the computer. I used it for D3 and some fps games.
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I'll look forward to that update then. Just wondering, why would you play wow on tablet if you got it on pc? Is the hardware on the n10 better than your computer?
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It would be nice when I'm not in-front of my computer. For example, I walk to a friend's house almost every weekend, and dragging my entire Desktop along is kind of a pain. Essentially, I would love to just be able to Stream games from my Desktop while it's at Home, to my tablet (which is far easier to take) There's also a coolness factor I would think if I would play some Guild Wars 2 from a tablet
Also it would be nice around the house too if I wanted to play some Dota 2 if I was downstairs or something lol.
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It would be nice when I'm not in-front of my computer. For example, I walk to a friend's house almost every weekend, and dragging my entire Desktop along is kind of a pain. Essentially, I would love to just be able to Stream games from my Desktop while it's at Home, to my tablet (which is far easier to take) There's also a coolness factor I would think if I would play some Guild Wars 2 from a tablet
Also it would be nice around the house too if I wanted to play some Dota 2 if I was downstairs or something lol.
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I see, that makes sense, and it would be great to see if that's possible without lagg. The thing is if your friends wifi is fast as yours (in your house) o not.
It's almost Halloween so hey, I raise a post from the dead lol.
Is there now any viable way to stream pc games to an android device ?
I'd like to play Hearthstone while in bed And the game would perfectly fit on tablet design.
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It's almost Halloween so hey, I raise a post from the dead lol.
Is there now any viable way to stream pc games to an android device ?
I'd like to play Hearthstone while in bed And the game would perfectly fit on tablet design.
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This app was already mentioned, but it's the best I know. So here it is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
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Mikerhinos said:
It's almost Halloween so hey, I raise a post from the dead lol.
Is there now any viable way to stream pc games to an android device ?
I'd like to play Hearthstone while in bed And the game would perfectly fit on tablet design.
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I have spent days trying to get something working and honestly nothing will work. Splashtop would be fine if it would accept the controller input better, half the time the code goes across as gibberish. I haven't tried https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.rdc.android this yet but it may work better.
I will try some more tonight to see but since hearthstone is a card game (i think) then you may have a much easier time then me because I am trying to do psx2 over wifi.
Just tried splashtop and it works pretty great with hearthstone thanks a lot ! :good:
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Just tried splashtop and it works pretty great with hearthstone thanks a lot ! :good:
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No worries, with a card game I am sure it does work out a lot better then what I am doing. So have fun. :highfive:
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Just tried splashtop and it works pretty great with hearthstone thanks a lot ! :good:
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But Fullscreen doesnt work with this and the Nexus 7, it always says that the Streamer on the PC doesnt support fullscreen...
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But Fullscreen doesnt work with this and the Nexus 7, it always says that the Streamer on the PC doesnt support fullscreen...
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Yes fullscreen doesn't work on my phone and other tablet too.
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This app was already mentioned, but it's the best I know. So here it is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
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ty, very helpfull
Related
Hey Guys
I made a video and it exploded on the internet. It shows how to play wii games on your tablet.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/19/play-wii-games-on-your-android-tablet-via-network-streaming-vid/
enjoy
Good job
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Hey! Obiwan22, I saw your post on engadget and started my own thread to get it to run smoothly, its got some good info as to why this won't work that well, lol. But I'm still trying different programs, haven't given up entirely on it just yet.
Check out my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17724101
thanks for the update
How responsive is it? I know windows remote desktop and standard VNC aren't fast enough for gaming. However splashtop does not support Linux. I don't much feel like installing their streaming software to get remote support, unless you can connect over the internet and not just locally.
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How responsive is it? I know windows remote desktop and standard VNC aren't fast enough for gaming. However splashtop does not support Linux. I don't much feel like installing their streaming software to get remote support, unless you can connect over the internet and not just locally.
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You can connect over the internet, and it even tries to make it easy.... never tested it. Personally I see little reason to do it, no right click, no happy. How am I supposed to place those blocks I mined in Minecraft without right clicking? :-\
P.S. disregard the whole lag thing from the other thread. Wifi isn't exactly a gigabit ethernet, true. I wire everything I can, true. Wifi is enough fast to do what you want, at least locally! Ask Sony how they made Remote Play (use a PSP connected remotely to a PS3 to play a few games that support it): the lower the bitrate you set, the more compression artefacts you'll see, so it works EXACTLY like OnLive (try it, there are demos. Not perfect but very well playable) and Splashtop. Be worried only by the cpu power, as it's going to handle both your game and the video encoding.... also don't hope too much to play over the internet. Maybe it's doable but at least I don't see it happening for me. And btw the PSP boasts a wifi "b" that is a speedy 11mbps (very performing too, hardly goes above 5) as opposed to some weird wifi n of the TF, that apparently goes up to 72mbps.
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You can connect over the internet, and it even tries to make it easy.... never tested it. Personally I see little reason to do it, no right click, no happy. How am I supposed to place those blocks I mined in Minecraft without right clicking? :-\
P.S. disregard the whole lag thing from the other thread. Wifi isn't exactly a gigabit ethernet, true. I wire everything I can, true. Wifi is enough fast to do what you want, at least locally! Ask Sony how they made Remote Play (use a PSP connected remotely to a PS3 to play a few games that support it): the lower the bitrate you set, the more compression artefacts you'll see, so it works EXACTLY like OnLive (try it, there are demos. Not perfect but very well playable) and Splashtop. Be worried only by the cpu power, as it's going to handle both your game and the video encoding.... also don't hope too much to play over the internet. Maybe it's doable but at least I don't see it happening for me. And btw the PSP boasts a wifi "b" that is a speedy 11mbps (very performing too, hardly goes above 5) as opposed to some weird wifi n of the TF, that apparently goes up to 72mbps.
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CPU power isn't an issue, my desktop has 6 cores so it should be able to handle a game and splashtop. I wonder remote desktop has never gotten any better about being responsive. I guess microsoft has written it to keep bandwidth usage to a minimum.
Personally I wasn't impressed at all. I use Splashtop all the time.
I just find it funny that some Android blogs title it "hacker mods his transformer to play wii". sigh.
This is similar to a story a while back about some kid using his android phone with wifi tethering and he used his PS3 to use that wifi hotspot and plays call of duty black open on psn and the title of the article was something like "Modder plays call of duty black ops on his htc desire"
Okay, my goal was to play ps2, gamecube, wii or any pc game on the xperia play. And I knew that can't be done via emulation... BUT you can do that via streaming(local or internet)
here's the result of my test via internet streaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm7X6iOWK0M
why am I using teamviewer? because... we can only use the directional cross...
FOR NOW!!! 'cause, I contacted the splashtop team and they will work on adding the gaming controller.... http://support-remote.splashtop.com/requests/5647
Maybe if we are alot to demand that, they will add the gaming controller faster...
Also, you can get splashtop for free (5$ on market):
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FYI guys, you can get splashtop and some other great paid apps for free at www.getjar.com now
http://www.getjar.com/mobile/76092/...=99f902csvw36igw0&c=ydq0iuf34pgge8056&lang=en
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I'm using the software BES to limit the cpu usage of pcsx2/dolphin, that way splashtop streamer is always reactive and less time between the move of the character and when we press button...
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Okay, my goal was to play ps2, gamecube, wii or any pc game on the xperia play. And I knew that can't be done via emulation... BUT you can do that via streaming(local or internet)
here's the result of my test via internet streaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm7X6iOWK0M
why am I using teamviewer? because... we can only use the directional cross...
FOR NOW!!! 'cause, I contacted the splashtop team and they will work to add the gaming controller.... http://support-remote.splashtop.com/requests/5647
Maybe if we are alot to demand that, they will add the gaming controller faster...
Also, you can get splashtop for free (5$ on market):
I'm using the software BES to limit the cpu usage of pcsx2/dolphin, that way splashtop streamer is always reactive and less time between the move of the character and when we press button...
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This is awesome! Thanks for the video....ok my review ofsplash top on android market I write that they should add game pad support....once thats added well be good to go!!....
now we just need a decent way to get our plays to stream into our HDTVS!
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I don't really get why people try SO hard to play cool PC games on their XP via internet. This way only works on WIFI, so why da F would you rather play a good pc game on your xperia play? Instead of playing it on your computer like it supposed to be? I can see if it would work on 3g, but as we all know, 3g is no way near fast enough to stream a good quality game to our Xperia play.
So, if you CAN'T play a good quality pc game like lets say GTA 4 over 3g (with team viewer, onLive or other ways), then i'm not interested.
nice try either way dude. Not trying to bast your balls or nothing like that.
I'm so sorry, but I think that playing like this is a bit dumb.
I mean, you can only play via wifi (via 3g? lol no), and as seen on the video, you have to stay near the wifi device that outputs the signal for playing without lag, so in that case, I find smarter to play the game on the PC instead on a mobile after having to open a program on the PC and another on the Xplay.
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I'm so sorry, but I think that playing like this is a bit dumb.
I mean, you can only play via wifi (via 3g? lol no), and as seen on the video, you have to stay near the wifi device that outputs the signal for playing without lag, so in that case, I find smarter to play the game on the PC instead on a mobile after having to open a program on the PC and another on the Xplay.
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I don't really get why people try SO hard to play cool PC games on their XP via internet. This way only works on WIFI, so why da F would you rather play a good pc game on your xperia play? Instead of playing it on your computer like it supposed to be? I can see if it would work on 3g, but as we all know, 3g is no way near fast enough to stream a good quality game to our Xperia play.
So, if you CAN'T play a good quality pc game like lets say GTA 4 over 3g (with team viewer, onLive or other ways), then i'm not interested.
nice try either way dude. Not trying to bast your balls or nothing like that.
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How can you compare teamviewer and OnLive. One is a remote desktop and the other one is a cloud based gaming platform.....
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How can you compare teamviewer and OnLive. One is a remote desktop and the other one is a cloud based gaming platform.....
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That's what i hope that onlive will live up to the expectations and will work on 3g and with xperia controls.
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How can you compare teamviewer and OnLive. One is a remote desktop and the other one is a cloud based gaming platform.....
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Does it really matter? It's the same f-ing thing in the end? What i'm talking about is WHY for THE LOVE F GOD would you rather play a good PC game on your phone instead of your PC? :S I don't care if the app is made for just mirroring the pc screen or made for gaming, you won't be able to play it via 3g anyway so why even bother?
The ONLY reason i can see this would be cool if you got some friends over and you be like "Hey! I can play call of duty on my phone hahaha you can't!" and your pals will be like "ok.. but it looks like it lags like ****, and why is call of duty running on your pc? plus, can you play it anywhere". You answer "Well.. no but you.." and your friends says "HAH! .. then it's gay as ****".
That's exactly how it is.. bro. Prove me wrong.
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Does it really matter? It's the same f-ing thing in the end? What i'm talking about is WHY for THE LOVE F GOD would you rather play a good PC game on your phone instead of your PC? :S I don't care if the app is made for just mirroring the pc screen or made for gaming, you won't be able to play it via 3g anyway so why even bother?
The ONLY reason i can see this would be cool if you got some friends over and you be like "Hey! I can play call of duty on my phone hahaha you can't!" and your pals will be like "ok.. but it looks like it lags like ****, and why is call of duty running on your pc? plus, can you play it anywhere". You answer "Well.. no but you.." and your friends says "HAH! .. then it's gay as ****".
That's exactly how it is.. bro. Prove me wrong.
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I use OnLive on my laptop with no lag so why should it lag on my phone. Also why would i need 3G? I have WiFi at home and when im out i'm very rarely in a position to say oooh why don't i play a game on my phone. You seem to think OnLive just mirrors a desktop it's nothing like that. They even have there own OnLive consoles out now
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Yeah onlive is a totally different thing than this. HTC (afaik) spend 40 mill $ on this project and they're gonna bring it to smartphones and tablets in Q1 2012 where you can actually play games with a controller and hook it up to your tv (if the device got hdmi, wich those devices released with onlive will have). You've got a brand new console, a mobile one i might ad. I do see the point in onlive.
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I use OnLive on my laptop with no lag so why should it lag on my phone. Also why would i need 3G? I have WiFi at home and when im out i'm very rarely in a position to say oooh why don't i play a game on my phone. You seem to think OnLive just mirrors a desktop it's nothing like that. They even have there own OnLive consoles out now
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Dude, i know what OnLive is. But you still don't see my point do you?
Why would you wanna play a PC game on your phone? Instead of your computer like it's supposed to be? XP is a phone that also is made as an portable gaming device. But this isn't going to work. 3G network isn't fast enough to run good games in perfect speed (prove me wrong). So even IF it would work to play games on our play, we still would have to play via WIFI. And if that was the case, i would still rather play the game on my xbox or my pc. Not on a tiny ass phone.
The day someone will come up to me with their play and show me that they can play lets say GTA 4 (over 3G of course), then I'll be interested. But as it looks now? No thank you..
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Dude, i know what OnLive is. But you still don't see my point do you?
Why would you wanna play a PC game on your phone? Instead of your computer like it's supposed to be? XP is a phone that also is made as an portable gaming device. But this isn't going to work. 3G network isn't fast enough to run good games in perfect speed (prove me wrong). So even IF it would work to play games on our play, we still would have to play via WIFI. And if that was the case, i would still rather play the game on my xbox or my pc. Not on a tiny ass phone.
The day someone will come up to me with their play and show me that they can play lets say GTA 4 (over 3G of course), then I'll be interested. But as it looks now? No thank you..
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So you take your PC everywhere do you? The world is full of free WiFi hotspots, every coffee shop, every mc donalds blah blah blah. The fact i'll be able to play all my OnLive games while i'm on holiday or staying at family members makes it worth it for me imo. With all my data and saves already there stored in the cloud. Epic
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So you take your PC everywhere do you? The world is full of free WiFi hotspots, every coffee shop, every mc donalds blah blah blah. The fact i'll be able to play all my OnLive games while i'm on holiday or staying at family members makes it worth it for me imo. With all my data and saves already there stored in the cloud. Epic
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Lol no ****, I don't see how this other dude is even arguing against OnLive in any way. During a typical day in my life I am covered by Wi-Fi about 95% of the time. The only time I really don't have WiFi is when I'm driving, which obviously I won't be playing Just Cause 2 while I'm operating a vehicle.
OnLive is probably the absolute best possible thing that could happen to the Xperia play. Now not only will we be able to play every game pre-PS2 era, but we'll get access to just about every major release going forward into the future. How could you possibly not be excited about this? Also, the smaller the screen being outputted to, the better OnLive looks/works. It will require far less bandwidth for a smooth experience on the Xplay and look much better than on a 23'' monitor/HDTV.
Another huge plus - since console are such hot **** nowadays, most games are designed with a gamepad in mind now, so controlling them on the XPlay won't be a complete nightmare.
Bottom line, we'll be playing Deus Ex:HR on our phones within a couple of months, if this thing gets released on time.
ok i don't know what world u guys living in that you got time to sit at mc donalds and play games? :S Don't you have any work or some important stuff to do?
When I'm outside, i work or hang out with friends, not with my phone on a random coffee shop playing call of duty.
But i guess we all are different.. good luck
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ok i don't know what world u guys living in that you got time to sit at mc donalds and play games? :S Don't you have any work or some important stuff to do?
When I'm outside, i work or hang out with friends, not with my phone on a random coffee shop playing call of duty.
But i guess we all are different.. good luck
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Thats our point, no1 plays games on there phone while there out so why does it matter if OnLive supports 3G or not
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Thats our point, no1 plays games on there phone while there out so why does it matter if OnLive supports 3G or not
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I still don't see the point why you would choose you're xperia play over a computer. "Yeah but i don't drag my computer everywhere", yeah but when you're not home, enjoy life and your friends ^^
It's like choosing a Fiat over a Lambo.. it's just wrong
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It's like choosing a Fiat over a Lambo.. it's just wrong
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I'd prolly take the fiat, better gas millage, cheaper insurance, and the brake changes don't cost $3,000
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I'd prolly take the fiat, better gas millage, cheaper insurance, and the brake changes don't cost $3,000
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plus you'll look like a complete looser when the other guy in the lamb drives up next to yah
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I still don't see the point why you would choose you're xperia play over a computer. "Yeah but i don't drag my computer everywhere", yeah but when you're not home, enjoy life and your friends ^^
It's like choosing a Fiat over a Lambo.. it's just wrong
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Lol so you post on an XDA forum for the Xperia Play - a cell phone that doubles as a portable video game "console." You obviously enjoy the device. So you're going to sit there and tell me that you only play games on your phone when you're at home, where you don't have the ability to "enjoy your life and your friends?"
WTF are you talking about? Why would you have this phone if you didn't enjoy gaming on the go? How is adding more games to the library at all something anyone would not want?! You baffle me, sir!
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Lol so you post on an XDA forum for the Xperia Play - a cell phone that doubles as a portable video game "console." You obviously enjoy the device. So you're going to sit there and tell me that you only play games on your phone when you're at home, where you don't have the ability to "enjoy your life and your friends?"
WTF are you talking about? Why would you have this phone if you didn't enjoy gaming on the go? How is adding more games to the library at all something anyone would not want?! You baffle me, sir!
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You're wrong sir I DO enjoy games. I play small games, like one race of Asphalt on a break. Or 5 minutes Muffin knight or something like that. But i don't wanna jump in max 5 minutes only to play Call of duty or something like that. IF i wanna play a serious game, i want to play it for minimum 45 minutes, and i don't have 45 minutes free when i'm not at home. That's what I mean. You get it?
My experience is that the on screen controls are abysmal. Its hard to do 360s for starters. Navigation controls are pretty straight forward but can be rather non-responsive, particularly when you get into a hairy situation with trying to deal with multiple zombies. I dunno, I don't think there's anything wrong with my touch screen display but I've found the game to be mostly frustrating.
I really like it. controls not hard. 7in. Screen is perfect for these type of games. what I'm really luvin is Nova3. Especially on myltiplayer/deathmatch mode. Sonic 2 thd rocks. Mass effect great also. Wish storage size was larger so I could load all my games like I have on my prime. Only the best ones & emulators go on my nexus 7
Only thing I hate is the random 360 turns it does on me and I don't know where the hell I am.
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Yeah, I thought it was just me.... The zoom is 0 or 100%, no way to go in and out, it either fires one bullet or a dozen it seems like, and movement is really goofy. Maybe that's why it's free now...
A lot of people are playing with a ps3 controller and its pretty awesome with a profile map.
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its frustrating but it sure is pretty on my Nexus7 and on my RAZR.... and its satisfying to shoot zombies regardless.
thats all that matters.
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Only thing I hate is the random 360 turns it does on me and I don't know where the hell I am.
From the Note to Nexus 7
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thank you! I thought I just had fat fingers or something, glad to hear I'm not the only one this happens to.
its freaking awesome with a ps3 controller :good:
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Only thing I hate is the random 360 turns it does on me and I don't know where the hell I am.
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Yeah I get the same thing once in awhile as well.
As far as games go, it's o.k. - I enjoy it from time to time, especially due to the graphics. To be honest, my Nexus 7 game of the moment is Major Mayhem.
I use an OnLive Universal Controller, myself. On screen controls have always been a waste of time, so be glad that Madfinger was nice enough to integrate controller support, unlike most Gameloft titles. Keyboard/mouse support would have been ideal, but the difficulty level is fine for controllers.
Does it compare to popular console franchises like Halo? Of course not. But it's decent enough for a tablet game, and until bigger developers start producing AAA titles for Android, this is the best we've got.
Anyone have zero issues with this game? I was thinking the bugs initially were due to a defective digitzer on my n7, but having downloaded and played max Payne without any issues, I'm lead to believe that the game is at fault.
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A lot of people are playing with a ps3 controller and its pretty awesome with a profile map.
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are they using the sixaxis app to hook the controller up?
Since they ripped off my dollar and threw Android under the bus, I can't say Madfinger holds much of my respect anymore.
But... This game is meant to be played with a controller. It was even demoed using the nyko android controllers, so that is by far the best way to play.
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Game still crashes on start for me... waiting for that to get fixed so I can start playing again
the 360 spins are kind of annoying, but still a good game.
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A lot of people are playing with a ps3 controller and its pretty awesome with a profile map.
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are they using the sixaxis app to hook the controller up?
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Dudes!! With SixAxis, you can make Android see it as a gamepad, so when you go to Dead Trigger, it sees that you have a gamepad connected and automatically makes your analog sticks analog. You just have to set the buttons to what you want.
No need for any special profile inputs. It's so insane. LoL!!
I will admit that all 1st person shooters on phones are a little hard and impossible to play. I actually wouldn't them if they didn't have that GamePad support.
How are people physically playing the game? It's looks like many of you are using gamepads.
I've tried playing it just using the touchscreen but it's very unnatural and awkward. Anyone out there using the touchscreen primarily and if so, any tips?
This game does lagg on my nexus 7....I can't actually play it properly so I uninstalled it.
other madfinger games play fine but this game i'm having issues with
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Anyone have zero issues with this game? I was thinking the bugs initially were due to a defective digitzer on my n7, but having downloaded and played max Payne without any issues, I'm lead to believe that the game is at fault.
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Same here. Only see the 180-degree character flip in Madfinger games like Dead Trigger and Shadowgun. Games from Rockstar such as Max Payne and GTA III doesn't have that issue. Definitely controller bug in Madfinger code. Being that Madfinger made Dead Trigger difficult without better weapons and has in-app purchase nag to upgrade weapons I'm not surprised they intentionally introduce the bug to frustrate people into paying money for weapons.
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Game still crashes on start for me... waiting for that to get fixed so I can start playing again
the 360 spins are kind of annoying, but still a good game.
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Try going into Settings>Apps>Dead Trigger and clear cache, clear data, force stop and uninstall.
Go into Settings>Wi-Fi, click on three vertical squares, select Advanced, and set Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to Always.
Set the Display sleep to 30 minutes.
Redownload game. A lot of crash and no sound issues with new game downloads are due to incomplete downloads.
The random 180 bug is a known problem with the unity game engine itself which madfinger happens to like to use. Its up to unity to fix it, and madfinger said on their Facebook that they were working with the unity team on it.
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My experience is that the on screen controls are abysmal. Its hard to do 360s for starters. Navigation controls are pretty straight forward but can be rather non-responsive, particularly when you get into a hairy situation with trying to deal with multiple zombies. I dunno, I don't think there's anything wrong with my touch screen display but I've found the game to be mostly frustrating.
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Come back to this discussion after you've tried out at least an xbox 360 controller.
On screen controls are lacking.. when you use real tactile controls that don't force you to cover up some of the screen, it makes it a different feeling device all together.
Any controller like the xbox 360 controller, Sony Playstation SIXASIS bluetooth, or any other wonderful controller compatible with our devices stock or rooted.
I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?
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I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?
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Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".
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Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".
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Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!
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Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!
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Assuming the *game* supports an external gamepad. I tried to get "Rock of Ages" to work, but it doesn't. Of course, I've had multiple times where that game won't work with *the keyboard connected to the system*. It's pretty flaky. But most games support an external controller, and just work.
It's not fake mouse and keyboard events, it's a real controller.
You have your hands on a shield already?
I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!
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Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!
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The weak link in your setup will be the wifi router. I haven't had great luck on the 2.4GHz spectrum, but I also have a noisy 2.4GHz range (many APs nearby, baby monitors, etc)
Outside of that, you, that will work. I wish they had used MHL for the HDMI out, so that you didn't need two cables to be charging and playing, but I don't know if MHL can do 2 amp charging or not. I'm hopeful that Monoprice will start selling their very sexy thin HDMI cables for mini HDMI (I haven't looked lately, so they may already have them), and then it wouldn't be terrible to connect via HDMI video. I think you can use a bluetooth controller with SHIELD, so you could set it on a table as a "dongle" for streaming PC games.
I still work on SHIELD. And I love working on it. One of my responsibilities is to make sure we stay as close to pure AOSP as possible, while supporting product features which AOSP doesn't (try using a controller to navigate the launcher...). That said, NVIDIA doesn't sponsor (or probably condone) my speaking on dev forums, but I'm also careful about what I say. Working around non-supported games was planned ahead of time. Supported games means games we've tested and made sure work smoothly. But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
You'll notice I don't reply to launch date or "what caused the delay" threads. I do *like* keeping my job. That would be "leaking" information.
Got it I won't ask those questions then.
Just worried about the router thing you mentioned. My fiber op goes directly into a dual band n router but that is in the same room as the computer so using the shield there makes no sense. I have a cat 5e cable going from that router over 150 feet to my home theater room and over there it connects to an older Belkin N router which i have set up as an access point.
That's the room i plan on doing most of my shield gaming streaming from the pc in the other room.
Why would you say this wouldn't work? Cat5e not enough? N router not enough?
What sort of speeds does the shield require?
Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
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HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.
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HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.
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I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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awesome... maybe play some shadowrun for 2006's sake
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Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.
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You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.
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You are right. And with the steam big picture thing commented before. The shield at 299 seems to be going from bargain to 'wtf are you kidding" device of the year.
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I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc
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I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc
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I have no idea. I haven't really looked at what sdcard support it has. Just that it has an sdcard jack.
Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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Also works if you have a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and that would save you from having to use the USB-OTG to hub.
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Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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given the information agrabren has given us buddy any game with controller support should work.
Iv been playing with my shield for awhile and have had an amazing experience, despite the obvious poor marketing of the product and unnecessary handicap nvidia has added in order to boost gpu sales with regards to streaming(I only buy nvidia graphic cards but it still should not be required).
The shield is the best handheld iv ever owned, I felt compelled to share my experience
1. created a virtual hotspot on my sony vaio duo 11 hd 4000 gpu(most laptops have dual band network cards built in) and connected shield. No router was necessary.(although a router would be a few frames faster)
Loaded Splastop thd gamepad
In gamepad mode you can just easily click any key on your shield and it registers on any game config menu on your pc!! that was awesome.
Played
Metro last night, loved it!
Borderlands 2, Worked Awsome! Im never going near my alienware M15x again. (used fullscaler to run games fullscreen 720p)
2 Loaded PPSSPP on my LAPTOP, streamed it to my shield!! Played Gta Liberty city, crisis core, god of war all full speed! And streamed perfect.
3. Played Fangz HD, Gangstar Vegas, Brotherhood of violence (gets better) all mapped with TinCore keys. Perfect experience.
Why the shield is better than my other devices in MY opinion.
a.Moga pro cannot pull any of this off due to the lag
b.My other devices could stream but needed the 360 controller to be attached to the pc
I felt compelled to say how much i love the shield so I wrote this, however Im very disappointed that Nvidia chose to force people to buy a new gpu to enjoy it when it can easily work with almost any Gpu. I have an Alienware M15x with a 560m which i did not use this time due to network issues.. however Im not sure if I want a new desktop. The hardware limitation seems artificial, still this is the best device iv owned.
My devices
xperia tablet z,iphone 5, galaxy s4 with moga pro
Ps vita, dsi
Hope splashtop THD comes to shield natively)
How did you get Splashtop THD working on your shield? When I look it up in the Play store, it says it's not compatible with the Shield. Really looking to see how this works, because I want to find some way to play Steam games on my shield and miracast stream them to my TV at the same time.
you have to side load the apk file which you can find online. it works great.
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2 Loaded PPSSPP on my LAPTOP, streamed it to my shield!! Played Gta Liberty city, crisis core, god of war all full speed! And streamed perfect.
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can get PPSSPP natively on Shield, works great apparently.
I know how you feel about the shield it's an amazing device with infinite possibilities for example you can play from DOS to PSP emulators you can play real PC games ,Android games , watch movies ,stream movies, browse the web, chat basically this device does it all :laugh:
you should try Kainy is sometimes better than splashtop http://www.kainy.com/
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I know how you feel about the shield it's an amazing device with infinite possibilities for example you can play from DOS to PSP emulators you can play real PC games ,Android games , watch movies ,stream movies, browse the web, chat basically this device does it all :laugh
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I only wish I could stick in my sim card and use it as my AIO phablet/gamingconsole. Looking into a micro usb sim modem to possibly get to work.
Im going to try kainy, it looks a bit complicated to connect, I use splashtop thd because the mouse works perfectly on it, it feels its emulating a gamepad. the other splashtop personal is deliberately broken by the company when it comes to gaming because the mouse movement is way off and in most other games the mouse movement is impossible.
forgot to mention the battery life.. it lasts for hours n hours, I can stream all day!
Isn't Lag present ??
Is it almost the same lag you see (See video) & tell
I've taken a video of the same using Kainy.
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can get PPSSPP natively on Shield, works great apparently.
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Streaming from a pc is way smoother, Nativly PPSSPP cant play many games properly on the shield, God of war for example.
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Streaming from a pc is way smoother, Nativly PPSSPP cant play many games properly on the shield, God of war for example.
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Apparently there was a patch very recently which fixed god of war.
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Isn't Lag present ??
Is it almost the same lag you see (See video) & tell
I've taken a video of the same using Kainy.
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No, my lag is nothing like that even without a router, Make sure your laptop or pc has wireless N(you must have a wireless N card) enabled and you are using WPA2 encryption. (you need to use it for high speed access)
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a. use splashtop THD, gamepad mode .. sadly you cant stream lower than 720p (so there maybe a slight lag barely noticeable)
b..Dont use the touchscreen to control games it wont work well.
c. when makeing a virtual hotspot, directly connect to your pc, do not connect to your router..
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Or you can use any other device that supports splahstop thd, sixaxis, and bam lol
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Haha yea Iv tried that it still doesnt give you the same feeling as the shield mainly because even the speakers are so good and the battery outlasts everything, but yes there is a flaw with the weight and screen size of the shield.
Iv updated ppsspp but I get 100% speed on pc when I stream to the shield. When I load it on my shield natively it runs around 60% to 65% im sure it will get there soon.
I just tried splashtop THD and Kainy is not even close to the nvidia streaming I didn't noticed lag in splashtop but image quality is poor same with kainy and that one lag as hell
there is no way to show people how much better is the nvidia streaming to the shield until they can see it in person the image is at least 90% of what you see in the computer is almost like you playing the game natively on the shield
More people need to mail splashtop to officially support the shield in the THD version, since the d-pad and left stick are pre locked to WASD
I'll try out how SplashTop does
And post a video if possible soon!
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I just tried splashtop THD and Kainy is not even close to the nvidia streaming I didn't noticed lag in splashtop but image quality is poor same with kainy and that one lag as hell
there is no way to show people how much better is the nvidia streaming to the shield until they can see it in person the image is at least 90% of what you see in the computer is almost like you playing the game natively on the shield
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I'll be glad to make comparison videos if someone will be able to port the Shield streaming app to other device removing the chipset check
Splashtop 2 is the last version I used to stream. I will agree that the quality of the stream is very low in comparison to what I was actually on my pc.
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Yes the compression quality between splastop personal and THD when hooked up nvidia gpu's is on a very noticeable level, Im not sure what they are doing with THD tegra to nvidia streaming but its got some sort of specific coding maybe someone can find out since it works with all previous gen nvidia cards.
I'd like to jump in with some newb questions:
If I download splashtop THD and combine it with Tincore, I can mimic using the shield game streaming? As in, I can play something like FFXIV from my computer to it and be able to control it properly?
THD is on sale right now 50% @ $9.99 Do I buy it even tho it isn't "compatible"?