[Q] New N7 owner, what's up with the battery life? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey Everyone, I wanted to see if I could get some opinions on this. Basically, I've had my N7 for a few days, and I *really* like it. Best tablet/phone I've ever used IMO. That being said, there is something bugging me about it: the battery life.
Google says 8-9 hours, and being a realist I take that to mean 6-7 hours. Fair enough. I noticed that it seemed like my battery was draining rather quickly, so I did a little experiment.
Last night I charged it to 100%. I then played about an hour of a pretty intense (graphically) game called Horn, and read some web pages for maybe 30-45 minutes. That took the battery down to 77%. When I got up this morning the battery was at 74% (where is that 300 hours standby number coming from?!). Then I checked through my Flipboard, Facebook, etc for about an hour this morning, and now it's at 51%. So basically, 2.5 hours of use took my battery to half. Is that normal? Also, I noticed last night that Android OS was listed as 46% of my battery usage which seemed really high, it's back down to 3% now. As far as I know there weren't any super intense background tasks happening.
So if you could just give me some idea of how much life you get out of your battery I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

Expect 4-5 hours on games like Horn. I get about a day and a half on heavy browsing. Two - three days on idle. Display is by far heaviest drain. I set mine to about 30 percent manual brightness.
Bottom line - if you use it a lot, charge it daily.
If you let it sit for days - turn it off. No such thing as 300 hours on idle.
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rmm200 said:
Expect 4-5 hours on games like Horn. I get about a day and a half on heavy browsing. Two - three days on idle. Display is by far heaviest drain. I set mine to about 30 percent manual brightness.
Bottom line - if you use it a lot, charge it daily.
If you let it sit for days - turn it off. No such thing as 300 hours on idle.
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Yeah, I figured Horn would be a major drain, bit I find myself constantly plugging this thing in! Basically the second I'm not using it I have it plugged in... Maybe I'll try going a day without playing any games and see how it goes. Thanks.

Same here. Never got more than 7 hours with heave use.
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Everything depends on how you use your tablet, how many background apps are running etc. I think the battery is pretty OK, even if I play and browse on it.
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Your situation is very common. Turn your brightness down and you will save a load of power. However if the os is sucking 46% of energy used then something is very wrong. I'd be worried if it strayed above 10% so you might have a faulty device.

On mine currently:
Screen 84% (manual 30 percent bright)
Android System 3%
Android OS 3%
Media server is at 6 percent - I really need to look at that one. Probably scanning directories.

Just a quick update...
I've been checking the usage off and on all day and haven't seen Android OS higher than 4% all day, that must have been some random thing when I checked it before. Everything seems pretty good now. I played Horn for a bit and lost about 15% battery, so that was definitely the main culprate. I recharged, and have just been doing random web stuff, email, a bit of facebook, made a widget in UCCW and the battery has only gone down 10%. I have my screen on auto brightness and it's been taking between 70%-80%, but that's to be expected. Other than that, nothing is above 5%. I'm happy with that .
Thanks for letting me know your usage folks, I was worried that something was wrong for a minute (especially seeing Android OS so high) but it look like everything is A-OK.

with the proper optimizing of your system, settings, and apps, this nexus 7 beast has wonderful battery life. of course it all depends how you use the device. playing lots of cpu/gpu intensive games will lower the screen on time.
mostly web browsing with 2h 15m of watching 3 star trek enterprise episodes(not streaming, downloaded..
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simms22 said:
with the proper optimizing of your system, settings, and apps, this nexus 7 beast has wonderful battery life. of course it all depends how you use the device. playing lots of cpu/gpu intensive games will lower the screen on time.
mostly web browsing with 2h 15m of watching 3 star trek enterprise episodes(not streaming, downloaded..
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Awesome. I don't have anything crazy happening at all. I installed Nova Launcher Pro because I wanted a scrollable dock and only one homescreen. On my homescreen I have a custom UCCW widget with the date/weather, flipboard widget, music widget (the one that came preinstalled), and the Evernote widget.
ES Task Manager says I have these Tasks running:
Asus Keyboard
Android Keyboard
Calendar (widget)
Clock (widget)
Face Unlock
Facebook (widget)
Fused Location
Google Account Manager
Google Search
Nfc Service
Nova Launcher
Package Access Helper
Settings (widget)
The Weather Network (widget)
UCCW (widget)
Honestly, I don't know what half of those are or if I can stop them, especially the widgets. The UCCW widget is set to open up The Weather Network app when I tap it, so that's probably why the TWN (widget) is on the list, and I assume the facebook one is just so I can get notifications (even though I don't actually have it on my screen as a widget).
Off topic, I noticed in your screenshots that you modified your notification bar at the top. Can you tell me how you did that? I really want to get rid of the clock/battery symbol but I don't know how to do that yet (I'm still really new but I don't want to waste your time so if you can just point me to a thread/google search that will show me how I'll figure it out eventually). I'm running the stock ROM and don't want to change that yet because I'm afraid I'll screw something up LOL.
Thanks again!

rm79 said:
Awesome. I don't have anything crazy happening at all. I installed Nova Launcher Pro because I wanted a scrollable dock and only one homescreen. On my homescreen I have a custom UCCW widget with the date/weather, flipboard widget, music widget (the one that are preinstalled), and the Evernote widget.
ES Task Manager says I have these Tasks running:
Asus Keyboard
Android Keyboard
Calendar (widget)
Clock (widget)
Face Unlock
Facebook (widget)
Fused Location
Google Account Manager
Google Search
Nfc Service
Nova Launcher
Package Access Helper
Settings (widget)
The Weather Network (widget)
UCCW (widget)
Honestly, I don't know what half of those are or if I can stop them, especially the widgets. The UCCW widget is set to open up The Weather Network app when I tap it, so that's probably why the TWN (widget) is on the list, and I assume the facebook one is just so I can get notifications (even though I don't actually have it on my screen as a widget).
Off topic, I noticed in your screenshots that you modified your notification bar at the top. Can you tell me how you did that? I really want to get rid of the clock/battery symbol but I don't know how to do that yet (I'm still really new but I don't want to waste your time so if you can just point me to a thread/google search that will show me how I'll figure it out eventually). I'm running the stock ROM and don't want to change that yet because I'm afraid I'll screw something up LOL.
Thanks again!
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first off, that facebook app is the probably one of the worst behaving apps out there, it LOVES to drain battery when youre not using it. ive been using the browser for facebook for a long time now. one day i got fed up with the facebook app when i literally didnt open it for a month but noticed that during one battery cycle it drained 17% of my battery. there are lots of apps available, some are written/optimized better than others. youll just have to find those that behave well and behave badly, and get rid of the badly behaving apps. that will come with time and your experience.
also, i try to use minimally apps that have notification or run in the background. the only notifications that i use are gmail and talk. all other notifications i disable. having a lot of different apps that are checking for notification all the time will also lower battery life. really, there are a lot of variables for battery life, too many in fact. since i have root, i also delete a bunch of system apps that i dont use, they eat battery too. like the calandar, the email(not gmail) app, certain live wallpapers, nfc(i dont use nfc), tags, and more. anything i dont need goes. speaking of root, thats why notification area is different. with root, you are in complete control of your device. you can modify it any way you want. custom roms/kernels also give you more control of your device, as well as a more optimized device. but take your time considering root. if you do decide to go that way, take your time and learn about what root is and what you can do with it. dont rush into it.
im not going to go on typing here, as i have dinner and an adult beverage waiting for me. ill keep an eye on this thread in case you have more questions

simms22 said:
first off, that facebook app is the probably one of the worst behaving apps out there, it LOVES to drain battery when youre not using it. ive been using the browser for facebook for a long time now. one day i got fed up with the facebook app when i literally didnt open it for a month but noticed that during one battery cycle it drained 17% of my battery. there are lots of apps available, some are written/optimized better than others. youll just have to find those that behave well and behave badly, and get rid of the badly behaving apps. that will come with time and your experience.
also, i try to use minimally apps that have notification or run in the background. the only notifications that i use are gmail and talk. all other notifications i disable. having a lot of different apps that are checking for notification all the time will also lower battery life. really, there are a lot of variables for battery life, too many in fact. since i have root, i also delete a bunch of system apps that i dont use, they eat battery too. like the calandar, the email(not gmail) app, certain live wallpapers, nfc(i dont use nfc), tags, and more. anything i dont need goes. speaking of root, thats why notification area is different. with root, you are in complete control of your device. you can modify it any way you want. custom roms/kernels also give you more control of your device, as well as a more optimized device. but take your time considering root. if you do decide to go that way, take your time and learn about what root is and what you can do with it. dont rush into it.
im not going to go on typing here, as i have dinner and an adult beverage waiting for me. ill keep an eye on this thread in case you have more questions
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You ROCK. Thanks so much for the nice reply...
BTW, my device is unlocked/rooted - it was the first thing I did when I got it (used Nexus 7 Toolkit v4.0.0). I wanted to unlock it ASAP so that if in the future I want to load some custom ROM or something I won't have to delete *everything*. I figured I'd root it and install busybox while I was at it.
Enjoy your dinner and your adult beverage! If you get a second tomorrow I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction to modify that notification bar. I expected Nova Launcher to let me do that, but it's a simple on/off thing. I want it to stay on, but I want to change what's displayed on the right side.
Have a great night!

rm79 said:
You ROCK. Thanks so much for the nice reply...
BTW, my device is unlocked/rooted - it was the first thing I did when I got it (used Nexus 7 Toolkit v4.0.0). I wanted to unlock it ASAP so that if in the future I want to load some custom ROM or something I won't have to delete *everything*. I figured I'd root it and install busybox while I was at it.
Enjoy your dinner and your adult beverage! If you get a second tomorrow I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction to modify that notification bar. I expected Nova Launcher to let me do that, but it's a simple on/off thing. I want it to stay on, but I want to change what's displayed on the right side.
Have a great night!
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i use the rasbean jelly rom(and the trinity kernel) which comes with its own choice of modifications and tweaks. plus the trinity kernel is highly optimized(great on battery and on performance).

Do try manual brightness setting.
Auto Brightness is not very useful (too bright), and it makes up for it by being not very good (flicker).
Manual saves a bunch on battery life.

rmm200 said:
Do try manual brightness setting.
Auto Brightness is not very useful (too bright), and it makes up for it by being not very good (flicker).
Manual saves a bunch on battery life.
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truth. i keep mine at about 20-25%.

It depends on how you use your tablet
Since I am not an aggresive user, my battery can last one and a half day
Using my nexus for playing games, checking email and browsing
CM 10.1 Nightlies

i am also disappointed with battery life. for me 4 hours is avg i get. after about 2 hours of screen time, battery drained down from 100% to 56%. and i set brightness to minimum. All auto sync is off. attaching the screen capture. I know people gonna hate when i mention tablet from fruit company, but the mini version of it goes on for about 8 hours of use. (by a teenager, my nephew!)

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Auto Rotation- Blurry Screen

Few questions which I couldn't find using the search option
1-When I turn the phone to landscape and vice versa, the screen blurs just before auto rotating, is this a feature?
2-How can I see the battery percentage e.g 90% on top bar rather then that tiny battery icon?
Thanks a bunch!
hi
first thing,auto rotation,it is an animation,so everything is ok.
for the second,try to find an ,app on market.
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hi
first thing,auto rotation,it is an animation,so everything is ok.
for the second,try to find an ,app on market.
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I know it's an animation, but the texts and the whole screen blurs out for a second before auto rotating. Can you check it on your phone?
Yes, my second option was downloading battery app, but seems like Android settings only show tiny battery icon.
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it
uncanny said:
I know it's an animation, but the texts and the whole screen blurs out for a second before auto rotating. Can you check it on your phone?
Yes, my second option was downloading battery app, but seems like Android settings only show tiny battery icon.
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it
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Yes, it's supposed to blur out before rotating. And the HTC Desire isn't like that.
Download BatteryTime Lite and configure the widget to notification bar. Then you'll have it.
Thanks for speedy replies. You guys rock! is their any option or code to check call life timer? every phone has it
not that I know of buddy
Call life timer? Is that another power option? If so then battery time lite will tell you that amongst other bits of other information.
Listed as:
Idle Time
Talk Time
Video Playback
Audio Playback
Web surfing
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Download BatteryTime Lite and configure the widget to notification bar. Then you'll have it.
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How is that done? The only option I can see in the settings is to pick your phone model....I'm new to android so I might be overlooking something obvious
Download it from the market mate, then long-press on a blank area of the homescreen > widgets > Batterytime Lite
Connect to the internet using WiFi or 3G. There's a gray bar with a small white triangle pointing upwards at the bottom of your screen, drag it up and you'll see a list of applications (apps for short). Now look for an app called "Market", tap that.
When it opens up, you'll see things to download, initially categorised by Paid Apps (which you have to pay of course) and Free Apps. If you look at the top-right corner of the screen, you should see a magnifying glass, tap that. Here you can search for BatteryTime Lite. You can just search for "Battery" and it'll give you loads more options.
Tap the ones you are interested in, you'll then see a button to install or buy at the bottom. Try the free ones first. To uninstall I usually go back to Market, select the "Downloads" button (same row as "Paid Apps" and "Free Apps" button when you have just loaded up Market), then tap your installed App, and you'll have the Uninstall button.
This is just one of the simpler way to uninstall, there are other ways though.
Hope that helps.
Tons of apps you can try for free, have fun.
Cheers - i'm fine with downloading, uninstalling & putting widgets on the home screen but is there a way of placing battery time lite onto the actual notification bar?
Not sure about BatteryTime Lite, but Battery Status has the option to place a battery indicator icon on the Notification Bar.
I've been thinking about this... and having had my handset for 2 weeks now.. and having had the same problems with the battery not last a full working day (if I leave for work at 6am and don't get back till 6..) I, like probably many of us.. became quite obsessed with it.. and wanted to know how many percent the battery had dropped during each half hour... we don't need to know this... we really don't.. all we really care about is.. will my phone still have juice in it when I get home at the end of the day.. and if you want to monitor the phones usage, install juice plotter.. then review it's data at the end of the day.. try it when your spending the day at home and don't need to worry about it running out.. I did that today..
Let the battery run flat over night and charged it this morning..
full charge at 1130 this morning.
9.5 hours later... 76% remaining... after some moderate use throughout the day..
I will become less obsessed when I don't have an issue any more.!!
ditto the recommendation for Battery Status Pro - it's free and works like a charm

Useful apps and tools you might not know about

I wanted to start a thread for community members to learn about some apps they might not know about, but would love if they did.
Mods, please don't move this to the "apps" sections. I understand it would be the likely choice. But in "general" it will be more viewed by the average user it's intended for. I'd like to encourage others to provide some apps or tools they use that they believe would be beneficial to the user.
Our tired EVOs might be using an AARP card by now, but some of these programs may give it a new feel and breath life back into the OG.
1. ROM Toolbox: Even tho I know many of you are familiar with this app, I don't believe everyone knows it's full potential. Especially when you unlock "pro". What doesn't it do? Font changer, boot animations to pick from, cpu set, auto memory manager, root file explorer, a2sd, adFree, Termainl Emulator, backup and restore, kernel tweaks., one of the best uninstallers I ever used with the ability to "freeze" apps.
It's probably the most useful app ever invented for the rooted user. Has a clean interface and easy to navigate. Go check it out. It will replace about 20 apps you might already have.
2. Cache Cleaner NG: schedule cleaning on internal & SD storage. One click to clean. Simple, effective. Nuff said.
3. TSF Shell: A launcher that I was turned onto by a post from Ropodope. It's simply beautiful and like something you've never used before. The speed and response of this launcher is unmatched. And the animations are smooth. Tho it lacks a great deal of widgets, it makes up in customization and look you've never seen.
4. SPB Shell: another launcher, maybe even more visually appealing than TSF but with less options. It's a nice change of pace to the norm and something worth checking out.
5. CoPilot Live: GPS Navigation like you've never seen. About the only one I've found better than the Google mainstay. It downloads the maps to your SD. (About 250mb by region). This way it can guide you even if you lose data coverage. Clean interface. Easy to use and maps are updated often,
6. History Eraser by INFOLIFE: Simple. Cleans SMS MMS browser and call log in one click. Downside is even tho there is an option for you tube and search, it will lead you to manual erase.
7. iTag: Auto tags your mp3s. Adds album art from a huge database. This app is more complete than almost any program you can use for your CPU.
8. GTunes Music V6: music download. Has access to billboard charts to get popular radio play mp3s fast. But also finds songs that Frostwire can't. Upgrading unlocks more engines and you can find almost anything you can think of.
9. Crop Wallpaper: The ability to use entire picture as wallpaper. There is alot out there but this hands down the most effective and easy use.
10. Holo Launcher: ICS look and feel for GB. Super quick and small file size. Only surpassed in speed by TSF, this launcher does a great job emulating ICS when you still want use of FFC and camcorder. Not very customizable, but you're looking for ICS right?
Im sure there are a ton of apps out there "I" don't know about, but would become mainstays if I did. I encourage all of you to try some of these great apps out, but also give back and let others know some great ones you've found along your way.
Please refrain from posting about games, this thread is to be dedicated to "useful" apps.
Let's all learn a little more about the ever growing Android community.
Thanks for iTag didn't know about that one.
that stoner at Circle K
Buisness Calender: great if you use your smart phone as a personal organizer. This app syncs with Google so all your events will save to your account. Main advantage to this app is the plethora of Widgets available. With color combination and size structures. See below
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"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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CoPilot is just what I've been looking for. For some reason Google Maps will not pinpoint or navigate my phone when several other apps would so I know it's not my drivers.
Along the Calendar line, I use Pure Grid Calendar Widget...HipKat turned me on to that one
Battery Monitor Widget Free/Pro
Better Battery Stats...to check for wakelocks
Net Monitor...to check what tower you are connected to and signal strength and map to tower.
To name a few.
No Lock: very simple widget that will allow you to disable your lock screen. Simple. Effective. Can also be used as a fix for slow unlocks upon waking screen
SD Maid: a great program that cleans up the remnants of deleted files on your SD card. Thought you got rid of that stuff? Guess again. This program will 100% free up space on the SD. Whether its 1mb or 500mb you'll be happier in the long run. Try it out.
Indredicontrol for havs kernels
Easily and quickly adjust voltages and governers
KeepScreen: will disable screen timeout. Very useful when using certain car docks or Google books. Best part is you can set it to only work when specific apps are running.
Boot Manager....install and boot roms from sd card.... haven't yet dabbled with it but sounds cool
Screen Off Widget--click to turn off screen...also has an invisible widget!
Note Everything.... quite possibly the best note taking/reminder app I have used.
Reboot scheduler by dread7 let's u plan and schedule a reboot however often u want. Nice little widget also
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I like seeing people adding to this. Also glad that these apps you're listing are truly apps I've never heard of bit have caught my interest. Keep it going boys.
Llama, is a really useful app. You can train it to know your home /work area and then set actions based on when you enter/leave that area. So I have it turn to silent when I enter work, disable wi-fi etc then when I leave it switches all of those back on, handy!
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Good idea man, here are a few I can't live without....
ChargeBar - Adds a highly customizable battery bar to whatever Rom you are on (Miui, reverse, or centered) (top or bottom or below status bar...or top or bottom of Nav. bar)
Amazon App Store - They give away a paid app everyday for free...nuff said!
Audio Manager - Perfect hide it app so your girl or friends don't see your porn files on your phone...also lets you hide SMS and apps you don't wanna have to explain...and its FREE! and updated regularly.
ScoreMobile - If you are a sports fan, this is a great app to use to follow your teams. You can set up alerts for the teams in whatever sport you wanna follow, also has up to the minute scoring in a great looking widget also has stats for the game at the push of a button...and its F.R. DOUBLE. E.!
Zedge - Hands down the best all in one wallpaper, ringtone, and notification downloader ever all in a beautiful interface and also FREE!
Quickpic - The best gallery replacement your phone will ever need. It has a beautiful UI and great animations, its updated regularly, and also FREE!
Doggcatcher - I love podcasts simply put, this app is expensive but worth every penny. Its easy to use, you can find what you want, and it has worked like a champ regardless of whatever Rom I've been on. Alot of the free podcast apps I've used are crap, can't pull everything I listen to, or can only stream. It is also updated regularly!
Enjoy!
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Good idea man, here are a few I can't live without....
ChargeBar - Adds a highly customizable battery bar to whatever Rom you are on (Miui, reverse, or centered) (top or bottom or below status bar...or top or bottom of Nav. bar)
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Thanks for that 1 bimmerman7!!!
I'd nominate BeWeather & Widgets Pro for a good weather app/widget. The animations are just beautiful and well worth the $.99 IMO.
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See the current weather in stunning high definition weather animations! Contains many beautiful and highly customizable weather and clock widgets.
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Yeah. I like that BeWeather widget with the simple text. I got to say that's pretty tight.
Contact Picture Sync: you can pull any profile picture off Facebook and link it with anyone in your contact. Very quick and useful for those roms that have problems syncing Facebook to contacts.
sms backup and restore. a necessity for you flash junkies.
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sms backup and restore. a necessity for you flash junkies.
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Might as well pair that with Call Log backup and restore.
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These are some of the mainstream apps that I find useful:
Better Battery Stats: provides a comprehensive analysis of your battery usage
Titanium : backs up apps, system settings & data, call logs, messages
Pixlr o matic : a very useful picture editing app. Has tons of options and very easy to apply.
Audi manager pro : let's you set profiles and set schedules for them. Useful for me as I don't have to keep decreasing the volume when I get to work or setting the phone to silent when I sleep. The profiles are applied based on the set time.
Cam scanner : use your phone as a scanner. Allows you to take batch scans, enhance images, convert to pdf, password protect docs, integrated with Drop Box and Box for cloud storage
Convert pad : one stop for all your conversions. Let's you set user defined metrics too.
Glympse : real time gps tracking.
Distance and area measurement : let's you calculate distance of travel or area of the closed path you've taken.
SMS scheduler : schedules SMS to be sent whenever. No more grief from those friends who get upset if you don't wish em at 12am on their birthday
Smart app protector : lock specific apps. Useful to lock up social apps when handing your phone over to nosy people.
Adobe reader : very useful pdf reader.
DROID Stats : keeps a track of your calls, SMS, data and let's you keep a track of your costs and limits.
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PA? Whats the hype?

Ok so I prefer AOKP, sometimes CM if an official final release ever comes out. I've been sniffing about at the Paranoid Android ROM some. I'd like some feedback on what the special deal is that brings everyone over to it.
I'm aware of the ability to change the DPI and color of each individual apps which sounds nice if you are into that - but what other things draw people to it besides that? If it's just that it has AOKP and CM features along with the dpi/app color stuff then I'd just prefer to stick with AOKP. Is there anything else?
How's the battery life with the included kernel? Are other kernels better to go with?
The kernels pretty much a stock Google kernel ... I prefer to use other kernels like trinity and faux but the ROM is nice .
Although I'm a big fan of Steve's aokp
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if you like aokp and are thinking of switching roms try codefirex if you havent. it has some form of all aokp features but its super optimized with the latest linaro and google optimizations and you can tell the difference over aokp/cm. im not a fan of PA because i think its just too customizable and is overwhelming because i would be so worried about getting everything "just right." i like most of the stock feel and a good amount of customization but to pick a color and density and ui mode for every app is just too much for me. the rom ends up feeling clunky and just wrong, but many people like it, but it sounds like its not your thing either
Where is the thread for codefirex? .. Does it have the bionic optimisations ?
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if you like aokp and are thinking of switching roms try codefirex if you havent. it has some form of all aokp features but its super optimized with the latest linaro and google optimizations and you can tell the difference over aokp/cm. im not a fan of PA because i think its just too customizable and is overwhelming because i would be so worried about getting everything "just right." i like most of the stock feel and a good amount of customization but to pick a color and density and ui mode for every app is just too much for me. the rom ends up feeling clunky and just wrong, but many people like it, but it sounds like its not your thing either
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Yeah thanks, I was thinking that same thing for the most part. I don't want to nit pick around and screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller and the stock colors work fine for me.
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Where is the thread for codefirex? .. Does it have the bionic optimisations ?
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What are these bionic optimizations that I keep seeing come up all about?
VoiD_Dweller said:
Yeah thanks, I was thinking that same thing for the most part. I don't want to nit pick around and screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller and the stock colors work fine for me.
What are these bionic optimizations that I keep seeing come up all about?
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There specific optimisations for krait which drastically improve memory management etc on the s4 pro
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Yeah thanks, I was thinking that same thing for the most part. I don't want to nit pick around and screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller and the stock colors work fine for me.
What are these bionic optimizations that I keep seeing come up all about?
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Here's another good explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37767038&postcount=1825
I am a tinker. So thats what PA gives me.
I change shyte all day, everyday. Then I add Franco Kernel. I get to tinker with that also.
if all you want is vanilla, stay with what ya got. If you want Everything your way. Then BK this mofo and install PA.
Its only daunting at first. Once you understand where the settings are you are all good.
Truthfully, if you are installing a Custom rom, I can't personally understand why you would install any else.
VoiD_Dweller said:
screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller
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we get this a lot. but its wrong. many people have mixed it up with "tablet mode" before and build.prop system dpi nonsense. none of this stuff applies. theres nothing getting smaller unless you want it small, seperate from the UI you choose ofc. in fact pa is sometimes used by the elderly with bad eye sight, since you can make apps big as well. not that this is pa's premise, but just for reference.
usually people who havent tried hybrid engine have no clue what it is - for me personally its androids most important modification, because i know what it can do. i doubt theres anything in the rom scene that comes close to it in complexity and practicability. and the latter point is important. its not a toy. it makes a phone better in so many productive ways, far beyond anything you can achieve through typical customization.
its one of many unique features btw,
here's another,
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if youre a gamer you'll love pie. all features we make are meant for actual use of the phone, not just fooling around with 2-3 quick access settings a couple of seconds every day, although we have it as well.
One of the best things pa did was ditch cm as their base.
Its refreshing to see the nexus ROM scene as a whole seems to pulling away from all the cm10 and aokp based / kanged Roms.
Nothing wrong with those roms if that's your thing. Others like close to aosp with some tweaks. Not let's toss in every single thing we can think off.
Yea I LOVE pie ... I'll give you that
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Paranoid android is awesome!
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I have tried PA a few times but each time I've been surprised by the LACK of of customization features. I can easily find the hybrid engine settings and edit the hell out of them but I don't find it useful at all. I'm not sure if I've just missed or if they really just don't exist.
Here's a list of some great small AOKP features that I couldn't find in PA. I would be happy if someone more familiar with PA could confirm if they exist or not.
- Clock position (center/right/dont show)
- Clock color
- Navbar & Statusbar opacity
- Kill-all button on recents menu
- Option to hide the hints of left and right widgets when opening lockscreen
- Volume music controls (long press to next/prev)
- Allow all widgets in lockscreen
- Navbar longpress actions
- LED notification customization (has to be in ROM, not a buggy 3rd party app)
- Less frequent notification sounds
I can live without one or two of these functions but since I couldn't find any of them in PA I just had to uninstall it after a few minutes.
Jiia said:
I have tried PA a few times but each time I've been surprised by the LACK of of customization features. I can easily find the hybrid engine settings and edit the hell out of them but I don't find it useful at all. I'm not sure if I've just missed or if they really just don't exist.
Here's a list of some great small AOKP features that I couldn't find in PA. I would be happy if someone more familiar with PA could confirm if they exist or not.
- Clock position (center/right/dont show)
- Clock color
- Navbar & Statusbar opacity
- Kill-all button on recents menu
- Option to hide the hints of left and right widgets when opening lockscreen
- Volume music controls (long press to next/prev)
- Allow all widgets in lockscreen
- Navbar longpress actions
- LED notification customization (has to be in ROM, not a buggy 3rd party app)
- Less frequent notification sounds
I can live without one or two of these functions but since I couldn't find any of them in PA I just had to uninstall it after a few minutes.
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Try revolt jb.
It is AOKP + CM + PA
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Jiia said:
I have tried PA a few times but each time I've been surprised by the LACK of of customization features. I can easily find the hybrid engine settings and edit the hell out of them but I don't find it useful at all. I'm not sure if I've just missed or if they really just don't exist.
Here's a list of some great small AOKP features that I couldn't find in PA. I would be happy if someone more familiar with PA could confirm if they exist or not.
- Clock position (center/right/dont show)
- Clock color
- Navbar & Statusbar opacity
- Kill-all button on recents menu
- Option to hide the hints of left and right widgets when opening lockscreen
- Volume music controls (long press to next/prev)
- Allow all widgets in lockscreen
- Navbar longpress actions
- LED notification customization (has to be in ROM, not a buggy 3rd party app)
- Less frequent notification sounds
I can live without one or two of these functions but since I couldn't find any of them in PA I just had to uninstall it after a few minutes.
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yes
yes (best implementation in the rom scene -> per app color)
yes (best implementation in the rom scene -> per app color)
yes (from us originally, best implementation in the rom scene -> elegant android 4.2 solution, all UI's, even PIE)
yes
yes
no, we dont want it
yes
yes
anyway. most of this stuff, thats toys. how often did i screw around with silly quick options today? 2 seconds maybe. i switched on bluetooth. meanwhile i've actually used my phone, written mails in the best email client possible. i've talked to people via the best gtalk client possible. i've set settings in the best settings app possible. an entire market with thousands of apps is simply not accessible to you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/tablet_featured you're locked out.
the fact is, youre using apps that were made to run on pocket watches. the sdk is years old and does not reflect contemporary technology anymore. your nexus4 was simply left behind. it falls back to 360p, which was used on the tiny htc wildfire xx years ago. keep in mind, 360p is WAY too small for your n4, but since the sdk is so old the next margin is 600p, you reach it almost but not quite, so back to 360. and with that you sift through unbelievable clumsy, unintuitive non-optimized apps. not to mention things like PIE, per app color, per app expanded dektop, the only rom on android that has a flawless tabletUI and a flawless phabletUI - and who knows what. i dont count anymore.
Thanks molesarecoming, I really need to give it another try. Clearly I just couldn't find the proper place for the settings.
molesarecoming said:
in fact pa is sometimes used by the elderly with bad eye sight, since you can make apps big as well. not that this is pa's premise, but just for reference.
usually people who havent tried hybrid engine have no clue what it is - for me personally its androids most important modification, because i know what it can do. i doubt theres anything in the rom scene that comes close to it in complexity and practicability. and the latter point is important. its not a toy. it makes a phone better in so many productive ways, far beyond anything you can achieve through typical customization.
if youre a gamer you'll love pie. all features we make are meant for actual use of the phone, not just fooling around with 2-3 quick access settings a couple of seconds every day, although we have it as well.
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Awesome reply and thanks for putting the time into an explanation like that. I had flashed PA onto my phone earlier and clearly didn't give it the time deserved to determine if it was worth keeping. I'll give it a few days and see how it goes.
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anyway. most of this stuff, thats toys. how often did i screw around with silly quick options today? 2 seconds maybe. i switched on bluetooth. meanwhile i've actually used my phone, written mails in the best email client possible. i've talked to people via the best gtalk client possible. i've set settings in the best settings app possible. an entire market with thousands of apps is simply not accessible to you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/tablet_featured you're locked out.
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I didn't realize I could use tablet apps. Out of curiosity what is the best email and gtalk client you are referring to, in your opinion?
Thanks for everyone's input on my original question..
the same gmail and the same gtalk thats installed on your phone. the problem is, yours looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/2013-01-04-15.02g2z5f.jpg
mine looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/n4-product-heroe5z5zbaj5a.jpg
that means i can actually see who writes me and switch back and forth. im not locked into one puny view.
your gmail: http://www.chip.de/ii/1/1/2/4/9/1/4/7/1bbccb0a376e8d44.jpg
my gmail: http://www.abload.de/img/shots_12pk0x.png (last row)
as you see, your apps are crippled beyond repair. thats how they look on my pocket watch.
that gtalk screenshot shows tablet mode all around but again, its separate, it doesnt matter, can be anything you want. same as for stuff being small, one tap and its bigger (last screenshot shows you the controls, slider controls size, dropdownbox lets you pick the UI). my gmail for instance displays in the exact same fontsize as in phoneUI. since nex4 is technically close to a tablet it can pull it off beautifully.
same holds true for tablet apps. most of these wouldnt even run on your phone, but do on mine. apps, thats what you are actually using and interacting with, 99% of the time you use your phone. here's where i see potential for customization. the last 1% where i wanna quicktoggle bluetooth is important, too - but thats fairly standard. every rom has it.
I can't justify using PA myself to be fair.
While my girlfriend though PIE was cool, I find it slow and a poor alternative to the notification bar outside of looking cool, so found myself not using it except to show off. When I actually wanted to do stuff with my phone, the on screen buttons were much faster coupled with the notification bar.
All the DPI stuff I tried, then set back to default. The colours everyone is raving about, I absolutely hate, and I simply cannot live without holding the home button to turn off the screen lol. I don't know why but using the power button or a quick toggle on the notification bar is just so 1980.
Aside from those things, and in all fairness, there is nothing really wrong with PA I just always go back to AOKP as it really does seem more customisable than PA when you take away useless DPI editing which adds nothing to the experience of using a phone.
molesarecoming said:
the same gmail and the same gtalk thats installed on your phone. the problem is, yours looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/2013-01-04-15.02g2z5f.jpg
mine looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/n4-product-heroe5z5zbaj5a.jpg
that means i can actually see who writes me and switch back and forth. im not locked into one puny view.
your gmail: http://www.chip.de/ii/1/1/2/4/9/1/4/7/1bbccb0a376e8d44.jpg
my gmail: http://www.abload.de/img/shots_12pk0x.png (last row)
as you see, your apps are crippled beyond repair. thats how they look on my pocket watch.
that gtalk screenshot shows tablet mode all around but again, its separate, it doesnt matter, can be anything you want. same as for stuff being small, one tap and its bigger (last screenshot shows you the controls, slider controls size, dropdownbox lets you pick the UI). my gmail for instance displays in the exact same fontsize as in phoneUI. since nex4 is technically close to a tablet it can pull it off beautifully.
same holds true for tablet apps. most of these wouldnt even run on your phone, but do on mine. apps, thats what you are actually using and interacting with, 99% of the time you use your phone. here's where i see potential for customization. the last 1% where i wanna quicktoggle bluetooth is important, too - but thats fairly standard. every rom has it.
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I see.. Thanks, I'll give it a whirl for sure now..

What am I doing wrong in regards to the S7 Edge battery life?

Hi all,
I need help and advice. I absolutely love the S7 Edge. Had it since the first day it came out. Had the Golden color for a while and then sold it to get the black one. What I realized on both devices is that battery life isn't all that great. Now having said that, before I pass judgement it might be because the apps I use might be at fault. I've monitored the usage in the settings and always saw that 'Android operating system' and 'Android system' were usually on the top of the battery Consumers apart from the odd time that the screen was. They were usually anywhere between 15 to 25%. Recently I also started seeing 'Google play services' on this list with consumption near the 10% and semetimes even higher.
I suppose the apps I use aren't all that different from what the norm is. I tried to see what was keeping Google play services occupied so much. I track my fitness with Google fit as step counter. I deleted that thinking it would help. I now use the s-health built-In step counter. Syncing it with Lifesum. Could this be using so much battery?
According to GSam I get around 4h20m screen on time.
Or am I maybe expecting too much from this battery?
The mate 8 outlasts it by a far margin.
I just think I'm doing something wrong every time I hear a reviewer say that their battery is great.
Many thanks all
I get about 6 hours screen on time at full brightness and 25 hours standby.
Disable Always on Display if you have it.
Check to see if you have Google play services auto updating? also try clearing its cache.
regnighc said:
I get about 6 hours screen on time at full brightness and 25 hours standby.
Disable Always on Display if you have it.
Check to see if you have Google play services auto updating? also try clearing its cache.
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Hi Hi,
I cleared the Cache of the Google Play services. I honestly do not know how to stop the auto updates. Always on Display is off. Edge screen is Off. Bluetooth is on the sync with my watch.
This is the second phone that does this so its obviously something I am doing wrong....
Hey,
I have the S7 Edge on the t-mobile service. The first few weeks of using the phone my battery was total ****... like in my pocket on the drive to work I'd lose 10% battery life.
This is what I did to greatly improve it, you probably already know some of this stuff. Try it like this and you can slowly turn on the features that you miss or want.
Go to Settings>Battery>More>Optimize Battery Usage - Check all your apps to minimize background activity
Go to Settings>Battery - Turn on Power saving On
Settings>Edge Screen - Turn off Edge Panels, Edge Feeds, Edge Lighting (Only if you don't use these)
Settings>Advanced Features - Turn off Pop-up view gesture, Smart Capture, Palm Swipe, Direct Call, Smart Alert and Easy Mute
Settings>Display -Turn off Smart stay, Always on Display, Night clock, Keep screen turned off. Then set the Screen mode to Basic
Now go to the app store and install Nova Launcher and Package Disabler pro. Setting Nova launcher to my default helped out with battery life by itself, plus you can customize more home screen options with it. In Package Disabler hit the 3 dots at the top right then press Disable all bloatware. You can also look on the forums here for a list of packages that are safe to disable, there are also some system things you can turn off.
slayerh4x said:
Hey,
I have the S7 Edge on the t-mobile service. The first few weeks of using the phone my battery was total ****... like in my pocket on the drive to work I'd lose 10% battery life.
This is what I did to greatly improve it, you probably already know some of this stuff. Try it like this and you can slowly turn on the features that you miss or want.
Go to Settings>Battery>More>Optimize Battery Usage - Check all your apps to minimize background activity
Go to Settings>Battery - Turn on Power saving On
Settings>Edge Screen - Turn off Edge Panels, Edge Feeds, Edge Lighting (Only if you don't use these)
Settings>Advanced Features - Turn off Pop-up view gesture, Smart Capture, Palm Swipe, Direct Call, Smart Alert and Easy Mute
Settings>Display -Turn off Smart stay, Always on Display, Night clock, Keep screen turned off. Then set the Screen mode to Basic
Now go to the app store and install Nova Launcher and Package Disabler pro. Setting Nova launcher to my default helped out with battery life by itself, plus you can customize more home screen options with it. In Package Disabler hit the 3 dots at the top right then press Disable all bloatware. You can also look on the forums here for a list of packages that are safe to disable, there are also some system things you can turn off.
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Thank you so much for taking the time and helping me. As of now I'm getting 5h flat screen on time and battery remaining is 3 %. I'll try these steps and see if I can improve it. Perhaps im hoping for impossible numbers when it comes to screen on time?
Thanks
No problem, glad to help. It was really frustrating when it happened to me so I know how you feel. The screen on time really does depend on what you're doing though. I can sit there browsing the web or facebook app all day, but If I am playing a lot of games it's like half the length.
slayerh4x said:
Hey,
I have the S7 Edge on the t-mobile service. The first few weeks of using the phone my battery was total ****... like in my pocket on the drive to work I'd lose 10% battery life.
This is what I did to greatly improve it, you probably already know some of this stuff. Try it like this and you can slowly turn on the features that you miss or want.
Go to Settings>Battery>More>Optimize Battery Usage - Check all your apps to minimize background activity
Go to Settings>Battery - Turn on Power saving On
Settings>Edge Screen - Turn off Edge Panels, Edge Feeds, Edge Lighting (Only if you don't use these)
Settings>Advanced Features - Turn off Pop-up view gesture, Smart Capture, Palm Swipe, Direct Call, Smart Alert and Easy Mute
Settings>Display -Turn off Smart stay, Always on Display, Night clock, Keep screen turned off. Then set the Screen mode to Basic
Now go to the app store and install Nova Launcher and Package Disabler pro. Setting Nova launcher to my default helped out with battery life by itself, plus you can customize more home screen options with it. In Package Disabler hit the 3 dots at the top right then press Disable all bloatware. You can also look on the forums here for a list of packages that are safe to disable, there are also some system things you can turn off.
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I highly recommend not picking to disable all bloat. That will disable stuff you really do need like Samsung Pay etc.
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slayerh4x said:
No problem, glad to help. It was really frustrating when it happened to me so I know how you feel. The screen on time really does depend on what you're doing though. I can sit there browsing the web or facebook app all day, but If I am playing a lot of games it's like half the length.
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Plug your phone in when playing games or get a USB portable charger. Games sip battery like nothing else.
slayerh4x said:
Hey,
I have the S7 Edge on the t-mobile service. The first few weeks of using the phone my battery was total ****... like in my pocket on the drive to work I'd lose 10% battery life.
This is what I did to greatly improve it, you probably already know some of this stuff. Try it like this and you can slowly turn on the features that you miss or want.
Go to Settings>Battery>More>Optimize Battery Usage - Check all your apps to minimize background activity
Go to Settings>Battery - Turn on Power saving On
Settings>Edge Screen - Turn off Edge Panels, Edge Feeds, Edge Lighting (Only if you don't use these)
Settings>Advanced Features - Turn off Pop-up view gesture, Smart Capture, Palm Swipe, Direct Call, Smart Alert and Easy Mute
Settings>Display -Turn off Smart stay, Always on Display, Night clock, Keep screen turned off. Then set the Screen mode to Basic
Now go to the app store and install Nova Launcher and Package Disabler pro. Setting Nova launcher to my default helped out with battery life by itself, plus you can customize more home screen options with it. In Package Disabler hit the 3 dots at the top right then press Disable all bloatware. You can also look on the forums here for a list of packages that are safe to disable, there are also some system things you can turn off.
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You are going way too far. Power saver mode is going to reduce performance - totally unnecessary. Disabling edge features... up to you. A gimmick anyway. Advanced features should really have no effect - most only matter when the screen is on anyway. AOD, somewhat of an impact. Screen mode to basic has zero effect. That only changes the color profile...
Would not disable all bloat. Go through the thread specific to this and find out what you should leave enabled.
Great info here. Just did the cache clear for all apps and system. Currently still having usual drain but will report back in a day or two.
Hi all,
So the question then becomes..... What kind of battery life would I expect to see? Still using the phone primarily for media consumption and to track fitness. Medium use sees me through the day. But running around 17% at 7 pm. Built in battery manager tells me I have 20 hours on battery. This good or average?
Thanks all.

Android P in depth review (ongoing)

Android P in depth review (updating...)​
Hi XDA, this is my opinion on the freshest dev preview of android P
Appearance
The appearance looks smoother and polished. The notifications have rounded corners and the Heads Up notifications appear like they are actually coming from the status bar instead of a rectangle taking up the screen. This is looking more and more similar to IOS, but android's customizability takes the lead. The new settings app looks a lot like the touchwiz settings because of the color coded icons. The clock has shifted to the left because P is made to support "notch" devices (i'll explain why Google is working hard for this feature later). The settings menu is organized more like touchwiz with the colored icons and that is a plus in my book. Overall, I believe this OS has achieved a greater standard when it comes to appearance.
New Features
Since this is only DP1, we are not seeing many new features, but I have seen the screenshot editor, different volume controls, the new settings app, etc. The screenshot editor is a much needed tool for me because I use social media and need to crop my screenshots, now this function can help me do just that. The volume defaults to media rather than ringer. The ring has 3 options, silent, vibrate, or ring. I believe this to be a better standard because I am always adjusting the media volume, but never the ring volume. This switch has kept the average consumer in mind. The new settings app has many battery tweaks! First off, there is a new power saving mode that doesn't tint your nav bar and status bar an ugly red color. This time, the battery saver works by limiting background power usage on applications and has a greater improvement on SOT. On DP2 at Google I/O, there will probably be more features to look for.
SOT/Battery life
The SOT has increased from 6 hrs on DU to 10 hrs on P. This is because P limits the background camera and microphone usage for apps such as Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, etc. The new battery saver feature can be turned on at any time and increases the SOT even more! I use the kirisakura harmony kernel for P and it is as good as the stock kernel, with better audio quality.
Tweaks, root, what else?
TWRP 3.2.1-2 works, but the password decryption is still faulty. It still registers what lock setting you're using. Magisk v16.1 has been released on the beta thread and magisk manager is bundled in (it is working and registering this time). Some magisk modules are not working because of P, but that should all be fixed in a few days. The only CK i've seen is Kirisakura harmony.
Overall...
Android P is a great OS for people that like new features and is relatively stable for a new OS. There are some api compatibility notifications, but that is because app devs haven't upgraded to the new api. I will be using this as my DD until official P comes out.
Thanks.
Bugs? Battery life? What apps don't work?
TokedUp said:
Bugs? Battery life? What apps don't work?
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I don't know if anyone will agree with me but my battery life is the same or better as stock for me. I had a couple force closes in the first 5 minutes after my first boot but only 2 since then. Snapchat comes up with a toast message occasionally that says something like "API compatibility error" or something, but the app still works. It has a couple hang ups here and there. I honestly feel like it's DP2 or 3 material. Been running for 24 hours, just my experience though.
Jackaroop said:
I don't know if anyone will agree with me but my battery life is the same or better as stock for me. I had a couple force closes in the first 5 minutes after my first boot but only 2 since then. Snapchat comes up with a toast message occasionally that says something like "API compatibility error" or something, but the app still works. It has a couple hang ups here and there. I honestly feel like it's DP2 or 3 material. Been running for 24 hours, just my experience though.
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Also have been running for 24 hours and battery is on par with stock Oreo. Haven't had any issues with apps, I don't use many though. Bluetooth works but it still said I was connected to my head unit after I turned my car off and was in my house, toggle off and on fixed it. Bluetooth icon doesn't show unless it's connected but it seems to be by design. Seems very stable for a dp1 but I think I might flash back to Oreo if root isn't available soon.
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tekanina said:
Also have been running for 24 hours and battery is on par with stock Oreo. Haven't had any issues with apps, I don't use many though. Bluetooth works but it still said I was connected to my head unit after I turned my car off and was in my house, toggle off and on fixed it. Bluetooth icon doesn't show unless it's connected but it seems to be by design. Seems very stable for a dp1 but I think I might flash back to Oreo if root isn't available soon.
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Looks like root is available just an issue with the magisk manager right now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/aod-pixel-xl-p-dp1-t3760506/post75821115
Jackaroop said:
Looks like root is available just an issue with the magisk manager right now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/aod-pixel-xl-p-dp1-t3760506/post75821115
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I am currently figuring out a method to get your root apps on P, will be posted soon (along with a few other things
I actually like p alot even though I'm starting to see a hint of iOS
Pros
For me battery is better than Oreo
I like certain aspects of design
Seems more stable
Cons
I hate iOS
Limited root for now
I hate ios
joeeboogz said:
I actually like p alot even though I'm starting to see a hint of iOS
Pros
For me battery is better than Oreo
I like certain aspects of design
Seems more stable
Cons
I hate iOS
Limited root for now
I hate ios
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Well you can hate it but iOS is far ahead of android when it comes to the UI.
I personally like the new UI on P.
Bugs so far (fresh image install, 100% unmodified non-rooted) in my few hours of testing. Keep in mind that I paid attention to every little detail:
1. Phone didn't want to wake one time to the point where I thought the phone was off. It took maybe 10-15 seconds of fiddling with the power button to wake it.
- This alone makes me think that an alarm clock could be missed.
2. Randomly goes from silent to ring.
- May be dangerous for some people depending on situation (business meetings, school setting, sleeping).
3. Launcher settings can be seen through the app drawer background.
- Tacky cosmetic mistake.
4. Adaptive brightness appears broken.
I'm sure there are more that I haven't encountered as it was only for a couple of hours. I wouldn't run it as a daily driver if you rely on your phone for things like business, alarm clock, maps, etc.
It's pretty functional for an alpha release but I wouldn't call this stable enough for everyday use unless you're comfortable with the possibility of the phone switching to ring randomly, missing an alarm clock for an important event, or phone not waking to capture a life moment (picture/video).
richii0207 said:
Bugs so far (fresh install, 100% unmodified non-rooted) in my few hours of testing:
1. Phone didn't want to wake one time to the point where I thought the phone was off. It took maybe 10-15 seconds of fiddling with the power button to wake it.
- This alone makes me think that an alarm clock could be missed.
2. Randomly goes from silent to ring.
- May be dangerous for some people depending on situation (business meetings, school setting, sleeping).
3. Launcher settings can be seen through the app drawer background.
- Tacky cosmetic mistake.
4. Adaptive brightness appears broken.
I'm sure there are more that I haven't encountered as it was only for a couple of hours. I wouldn't run it as a daily driver if you rely on your phone for things like business, alarm clock, maps, etc.
It's pretty functional for an alpha release but I wouldn't call this stable enough for everyday use unless you're comfortable with the possibility of the phone switching to ring randomly, missing an alarm clock for an important event, or phone not waking to capture a life moment (picture/video).
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did u flash factory (with wipe) or full ota file??
onesolo said:
did u flash factory (with wipe) or full ota file??
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Flash image with full wipe.
richii0207 said:
Bugs so far (fresh image install, 100% unmodified non-rooted) in my few hours of testing:
1. Phone didn't want to wake one time to the point where I thought the phone was off. It took maybe 10-15 seconds of fiddling with the power button to wake it.
- This alone makes me think that an alarm clock could be missed.
2. Randomly goes from silent to ring.
- May be dangerous for some people depending on situation (business meetings, school setting, sleeping).
3. Launcher settings can be seen through the app drawer background.
- Tacky cosmetic mistake.
4. Adaptive brightness appears broken.
I'm sure there are more that I haven't encountered as it was only for a couple of hours. I wouldn't run it as a daily driver if you rely on your phone for things like business, alarm clock, maps, etc.
It's pretty functional for an alpha release but I wouldn't call this stable enough for everyday use unless you're comfortable with the possibility of the phone switching to ring randomly, missing an alarm clock for an important event, or phone not waking to capture a life moment (picture/video).
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That's weird I didn't have any of these issues except for the launcher settings icons displaying over the app drawer.
I did however encounter some minor problems:
On the settings icon shortcuts, when I click on "Data usage" I get an error saying "app not installed"
I cannot get the new screenshots editor, when I click on edit right after taking a screenshot it takes mo to the Google photos editor
I have noticed errors related to API compatibility showing on certain apps
Some apps don't seem to work correctly, GSam Battery Monitor for example is showing wrong stats (SOT jumped from 3 to 4h in a couple of minutes)
Other than that everything seems to work in a good and smooth way.
Words with Friends kept FCing
Pros:
1. Beautiful UI
2. Battery life is great (no orange bar for battery saving mode)
3. Notification management! P recognizes the types of notifications you want/ or don't want and gives you a quick option to disable them.
4. No FCs so far (might just be me)
Cons:
1. Launcher settings can be seen through app drawer (dev preview ****)
2. Settings icons are hideous
3. Media volume setting comes up by default when pressing the volume button. (might just be me)
I love so much about P. I can't wait for until it's out of dev preview.
guruguap239 said:
Pros:
1. Beautiful UI
2. Battery life is great (no orange bar for battery saving mode)
3. Notification management! P recognizes the types of notifications you want/ or don't want and gives you a quick option to disable them.
4. No FCs so far (might just be me)
Cons:
1. Launcher settings can be seen through app drawer (dev preview ****)
2. Settings icons are hideous
3. Media volume setting comes up by default when pressing the volume button. (might just be me)
I love so much about P. I can't wait for until it's out of dev preview.
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I think I read that now volume keys always default to media volume rather than ring volume. Check one of the feature list posts in xda news to verify.
Review updated, includes more stuff
I've been running Android P for about 3 days now my Pixel XL. I haven't had many issues at all, but my battery seems to drain/die much fast than it did on 8.1.
I may try to re flash P again to see if a fresh install helps in anyway. Especially since everyone seems to be getting much better battery life with P.
I'll update if I see any difference.
So you are getting 10 hours of SoT with this P preview? Seems unreal man!
nory82688 said:
I've been running Android P for about 3 days now my Pixel XL. I haven't had many issues at all, but my battery seems to drain/die much fast than it did on 8.1.
I may try to re flash P again to see if a fresh install helps in anyway. Especially since everyone seems to be getting much better battery life with P.
I'll update if I see any difference.
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I'm also getting worse battery life on P, although I did just update from 8.1 with the factory image without wiping. I might just give it a try after wiping but I'd really rather not. I'm using a normal Pixel, non-XL.

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