PA? Whats the hype? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so I prefer AOKP, sometimes CM if an official final release ever comes out. I've been sniffing about at the Paranoid Android ROM some. I'd like some feedback on what the special deal is that brings everyone over to it.
I'm aware of the ability to change the DPI and color of each individual apps which sounds nice if you are into that - but what other things draw people to it besides that? If it's just that it has AOKP and CM features along with the dpi/app color stuff then I'd just prefer to stick with AOKP. Is there anything else?
How's the battery life with the included kernel? Are other kernels better to go with?

The kernels pretty much a stock Google kernel ... I prefer to use other kernels like trinity and faux but the ROM is nice .
Although I'm a big fan of Steve's aokp
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if you like aokp and are thinking of switching roms try codefirex if you havent. it has some form of all aokp features but its super optimized with the latest linaro and google optimizations and you can tell the difference over aokp/cm. im not a fan of PA because i think its just too customizable and is overwhelming because i would be so worried about getting everything "just right." i like most of the stock feel and a good amount of customization but to pick a color and density and ui mode for every app is just too much for me. the rom ends up feeling clunky and just wrong, but many people like it, but it sounds like its not your thing either

Where is the thread for codefirex? .. Does it have the bionic optimisations ?
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mbucks911 said:
if you like aokp and are thinking of switching roms try codefirex if you havent. it has some form of all aokp features but its super optimized with the latest linaro and google optimizations and you can tell the difference over aokp/cm. im not a fan of PA because i think its just too customizable and is overwhelming because i would be so worried about getting everything "just right." i like most of the stock feel and a good amount of customization but to pick a color and density and ui mode for every app is just too much for me. the rom ends up feeling clunky and just wrong, but many people like it, but it sounds like its not your thing either
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Yeah thanks, I was thinking that same thing for the most part. I don't want to nit pick around and screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller and the stock colors work fine for me.
italia0101 said:
Where is the thread for codefirex? .. Does it have the bionic optimisations ?
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What are these bionic optimizations that I keep seeing come up all about?

VoiD_Dweller said:
Yeah thanks, I was thinking that same thing for the most part. I don't want to nit pick around and screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller and the stock colors work fine for me.
What are these bionic optimizations that I keep seeing come up all about?
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There specific optimisations for krait which drastically improve memory management etc on the s4 pro
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Yeah thanks, I was thinking that same thing for the most part. I don't want to nit pick around and screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller and the stock colors work fine for me.
What are these bionic optimizations that I keep seeing come up all about?
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Here's another good explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37767038&postcount=1825

I am a tinker. So thats what PA gives me.
I change shyte all day, everyday. Then I add Franco Kernel. I get to tinker with that also.
if all you want is vanilla, stay with what ya got. If you want Everything your way. Then BK this mofo and install PA.
Its only daunting at first. Once you understand where the settings are you are all good.
Truthfully, if you are installing a Custom rom, I can't personally understand why you would install any else.

VoiD_Dweller said:
screw with DPI settings, my eyes are bad enough I don't need things smaller
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we get this a lot. but its wrong. many people have mixed it up with "tablet mode" before and build.prop system dpi nonsense. none of this stuff applies. theres nothing getting smaller unless you want it small, seperate from the UI you choose ofc. in fact pa is sometimes used by the elderly with bad eye sight, since you can make apps big as well. not that this is pa's premise, but just for reference.
usually people who havent tried hybrid engine have no clue what it is - for me personally its androids most important modification, because i know what it can do. i doubt theres anything in the rom scene that comes close to it in complexity and practicability. and the latter point is important. its not a toy. it makes a phone better in so many productive ways, far beyond anything you can achieve through typical customization.
its one of many unique features btw,
here's another,
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if youre a gamer you'll love pie. all features we make are meant for actual use of the phone, not just fooling around with 2-3 quick access settings a couple of seconds every day, although we have it as well.

One of the best things pa did was ditch cm as their base.
Its refreshing to see the nexus ROM scene as a whole seems to pulling away from all the cm10 and aokp based / kanged Roms.
Nothing wrong with those roms if that's your thing. Others like close to aosp with some tweaks. Not let's toss in every single thing we can think off.

Yea I LOVE pie ... I'll give you that
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Paranoid android is awesome!
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I have tried PA a few times but each time I've been surprised by the LACK of of customization features. I can easily find the hybrid engine settings and edit the hell out of them but I don't find it useful at all. I'm not sure if I've just missed or if they really just don't exist.
Here's a list of some great small AOKP features that I couldn't find in PA. I would be happy if someone more familiar with PA could confirm if they exist or not.
- Clock position (center/right/dont show)
- Clock color
- Navbar & Statusbar opacity
- Kill-all button on recents menu
- Option to hide the hints of left and right widgets when opening lockscreen
- Volume music controls (long press to next/prev)
- Allow all widgets in lockscreen
- Navbar longpress actions
- LED notification customization (has to be in ROM, not a buggy 3rd party app)
- Less frequent notification sounds
I can live without one or two of these functions but since I couldn't find any of them in PA I just had to uninstall it after a few minutes.

Jiia said:
I have tried PA a few times but each time I've been surprised by the LACK of of customization features. I can easily find the hybrid engine settings and edit the hell out of them but I don't find it useful at all. I'm not sure if I've just missed or if they really just don't exist.
Here's a list of some great small AOKP features that I couldn't find in PA. I would be happy if someone more familiar with PA could confirm if they exist or not.
- Clock position (center/right/dont show)
- Clock color
- Navbar & Statusbar opacity
- Kill-all button on recents menu
- Option to hide the hints of left and right widgets when opening lockscreen
- Volume music controls (long press to next/prev)
- Allow all widgets in lockscreen
- Navbar longpress actions
- LED notification customization (has to be in ROM, not a buggy 3rd party app)
- Less frequent notification sounds
I can live without one or two of these functions but since I couldn't find any of them in PA I just had to uninstall it after a few minutes.
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Try revolt jb.
It is AOKP + CM + PA
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Jiia said:
I have tried PA a few times but each time I've been surprised by the LACK of of customization features. I can easily find the hybrid engine settings and edit the hell out of them but I don't find it useful at all. I'm not sure if I've just missed or if they really just don't exist.
Here's a list of some great small AOKP features that I couldn't find in PA. I would be happy if someone more familiar with PA could confirm if they exist or not.
- Clock position (center/right/dont show)
- Clock color
- Navbar & Statusbar opacity
- Kill-all button on recents menu
- Option to hide the hints of left and right widgets when opening lockscreen
- Volume music controls (long press to next/prev)
- Allow all widgets in lockscreen
- Navbar longpress actions
- LED notification customization (has to be in ROM, not a buggy 3rd party app)
- Less frequent notification sounds
I can live without one or two of these functions but since I couldn't find any of them in PA I just had to uninstall it after a few minutes.
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yes
yes (best implementation in the rom scene -> per app color)
yes (best implementation in the rom scene -> per app color)
yes (from us originally, best implementation in the rom scene -> elegant android 4.2 solution, all UI's, even PIE)
yes
yes
no, we dont want it
yes
yes
anyway. most of this stuff, thats toys. how often did i screw around with silly quick options today? 2 seconds maybe. i switched on bluetooth. meanwhile i've actually used my phone, written mails in the best email client possible. i've talked to people via the best gtalk client possible. i've set settings in the best settings app possible. an entire market with thousands of apps is simply not accessible to you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/tablet_featured you're locked out.
the fact is, youre using apps that were made to run on pocket watches. the sdk is years old and does not reflect contemporary technology anymore. your nexus4 was simply left behind. it falls back to 360p, which was used on the tiny htc wildfire xx years ago. keep in mind, 360p is WAY too small for your n4, but since the sdk is so old the next margin is 600p, you reach it almost but not quite, so back to 360. and with that you sift through unbelievable clumsy, unintuitive non-optimized apps. not to mention things like PIE, per app color, per app expanded dektop, the only rom on android that has a flawless tabletUI and a flawless phabletUI - and who knows what. i dont count anymore.

Thanks molesarecoming, I really need to give it another try. Clearly I just couldn't find the proper place for the settings.

molesarecoming said:
in fact pa is sometimes used by the elderly with bad eye sight, since you can make apps big as well. not that this is pa's premise, but just for reference.
usually people who havent tried hybrid engine have no clue what it is - for me personally its androids most important modification, because i know what it can do. i doubt theres anything in the rom scene that comes close to it in complexity and practicability. and the latter point is important. its not a toy. it makes a phone better in so many productive ways, far beyond anything you can achieve through typical customization.
if youre a gamer you'll love pie. all features we make are meant for actual use of the phone, not just fooling around with 2-3 quick access settings a couple of seconds every day, although we have it as well.
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Awesome reply and thanks for putting the time into an explanation like that. I had flashed PA onto my phone earlier and clearly didn't give it the time deserved to determine if it was worth keeping. I'll give it a few days and see how it goes.
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anyway. most of this stuff, thats toys. how often did i screw around with silly quick options today? 2 seconds maybe. i switched on bluetooth. meanwhile i've actually used my phone, written mails in the best email client possible. i've talked to people via the best gtalk client possible. i've set settings in the best settings app possible. an entire market with thousands of apps is simply not accessible to you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/tablet_featured you're locked out.
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I didn't realize I could use tablet apps. Out of curiosity what is the best email and gtalk client you are referring to, in your opinion?
Thanks for everyone's input on my original question..

the same gmail and the same gtalk thats installed on your phone. the problem is, yours looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/2013-01-04-15.02g2z5f.jpg
mine looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/n4-product-heroe5z5zbaj5a.jpg
that means i can actually see who writes me and switch back and forth. im not locked into one puny view.
your gmail: http://www.chip.de/ii/1/1/2/4/9/1/4/7/1bbccb0a376e8d44.jpg
my gmail: http://www.abload.de/img/shots_12pk0x.png (last row)
as you see, your apps are crippled beyond repair. thats how they look on my pocket watch.
that gtalk screenshot shows tablet mode all around but again, its separate, it doesnt matter, can be anything you want. same as for stuff being small, one tap and its bigger (last screenshot shows you the controls, slider controls size, dropdownbox lets you pick the UI). my gmail for instance displays in the exact same fontsize as in phoneUI. since nex4 is technically close to a tablet it can pull it off beautifully.
same holds true for tablet apps. most of these wouldnt even run on your phone, but do on mine. apps, thats what you are actually using and interacting with, 99% of the time you use your phone. here's where i see potential for customization. the last 1% where i wanna quicktoggle bluetooth is important, too - but thats fairly standard. every rom has it.

I can't justify using PA myself to be fair.
While my girlfriend though PIE was cool, I find it slow and a poor alternative to the notification bar outside of looking cool, so found myself not using it except to show off. When I actually wanted to do stuff with my phone, the on screen buttons were much faster coupled with the notification bar.
All the DPI stuff I tried, then set back to default. The colours everyone is raving about, I absolutely hate, and I simply cannot live without holding the home button to turn off the screen lol. I don't know why but using the power button or a quick toggle on the notification bar is just so 1980.
Aside from those things, and in all fairness, there is nothing really wrong with PA I just always go back to AOKP as it really does seem more customisable than PA when you take away useless DPI editing which adds nothing to the experience of using a phone.

molesarecoming said:
the same gmail and the same gtalk thats installed on your phone. the problem is, yours looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/2013-01-04-15.02g2z5f.jpg
mine looks like this: http://www.abload.de/img/n4-product-heroe5z5zbaj5a.jpg
that means i can actually see who writes me and switch back and forth. im not locked into one puny view.
your gmail: http://www.chip.de/ii/1/1/2/4/9/1/4/7/1bbccb0a376e8d44.jpg
my gmail: http://www.abload.de/img/shots_12pk0x.png (last row)
as you see, your apps are crippled beyond repair. thats how they look on my pocket watch.
that gtalk screenshot shows tablet mode all around but again, its separate, it doesnt matter, can be anything you want. same as for stuff being small, one tap and its bigger (last screenshot shows you the controls, slider controls size, dropdownbox lets you pick the UI). my gmail for instance displays in the exact same fontsize as in phoneUI. since nex4 is technically close to a tablet it can pull it off beautifully.
same holds true for tablet apps. most of these wouldnt even run on your phone, but do on mine. apps, thats what you are actually using and interacting with, 99% of the time you use your phone. here's where i see potential for customization. the last 1% where i wanna quicktoggle bluetooth is important, too - but thats fairly standard. every rom has it.
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I see.. Thanks, I'll give it a whirl for sure now..

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Cookies v2.0 with cht v 2.0 First impressions

This is a thread just of my impressions of the new Cookies and CHT Tab editor although it goes oh so much further than just tabs . It's like WM6.5 and Androids love child giving you so many more options than the original 'sense' . I'd say it was how HTC Sense should have been all along , just my opinion of course .
A few warnings :
* You MUST use both new versions for this to work properly ;
* Any back ups of settings you make using the old Editor will not work when you load the new one ;
* Initially your "slider" will be replaced with the new one integrated in this version ( it can be changed if you don't like it ) ;
* You'll need the add-ons if you want some extra functions like 'standalone' weather etc etc .
With that out the way let's begin .
If you're familiar with version 1.8.5 then you'll be surprised at just how much further this new version goes . I've tried this on the Omega rom with the application built in and on the Elegancia V5 where I had to load it myself . There appears no difference as far as I can see .
When loading the application it will give you it's own home screen BUT what you have to remember about this new version is EVERYTHING is changeable . Every thing can be removed except the slider (either one of your choice or CHT's) . You now, like the Htc Desire , have the option of multiple screens each having their own design . Where before you had the option of 3 screens in a row you now have upto 7 also you can swipe up or down to be presented with even more screens even the Desire doesn't go that far .
The quicklinks can be customised as before or removed completely , although they fill the page under the main screen . Now there is the option of "freelinks" so called I assume as you are free to move them anywhere you want on the screen . Whatever you can use on the quick links can be used as free links . If you download the add-ons then you can have a standalone digital clock , Flip clock and Weather all of which can be resized and moved around the screen ( not just up and down like before ) . There are also music player , Email and Messages widgets that can be added to 1 or more screens . The Email and Message widgets fill most of a page however the music widget has a choice of 3 sizes .
You can also download a new application named chtscheduler this is something that I've had only a short time with but from what I understand you can programme the Hd2 to switch to a different screen depending on the time of the day or week . For example if you travel to work by train leaving at 6:15 and arriving at 8:15 monday to friday then you can set the phone to switch to the designated home screen during this time each day . Giving you the applications and settings you require . The main profiles are DAY and NIGHT but there are 5 sub profiles and yet another 4 "special" sub profiles . It'll let you change Layout - Wallpaper - General settings and Data connections during the time frames you choose . Think of it as the old nokia profiles but where , after being configured , the phone will update itself without any need to remember to change things manually .
There are so many more options that I've just not had time to play with yet and this thread only really scratches the surface . I just hope that when WP7 comes out that the really clever people of XDA can find a way to develop roms as they do now and other clever people like this can keep our phones fun and customizable as they are now .
If I can answer any questions please feel free to PM me or leave your message here and I'll do my best to help . Download and have fun .
Great review.
I was so happy to see NRG release a cooked-in version mere hours after the beta turned up, and as my phone had gone skewy just hours earlier, it was perfect timing.
It's amazing, completely pushing the envelope in terms of Sense, and I can't thank Cookie enough. I love how you have maybe 28 home-tabs to play with in total (if I've got my 7x4 right!), and every single aspect of Sense can be moved around at will in this space.
I was going to suggest a thread where we can post:
- Ideas/requests even for what widgets would we like to see. Maybe some devs can pitch in to describe the scope for what's available, content-wise.
- Pictures of our homepages where we had produced a striking new look thanks to Cookie. Obviously pictures speak louder than words, and if I can get myMobiler running I'll grab some, but if anyone finds novel layouts for Sense thanks to CHT, give us a demo!
EDIT: Here's a pic: I really like how widgets can overlap different pages (e.g. you can see the corners of my emails and texts on my main homescreen), and even each other (e.g. lanscape emails and texts)
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Anyway, I didn't mean to thread-jack, I think this is a flawless (ignoring your typical beta bugs) mod, and I can't praise co0kie + team enough for this release. As you said, it combines the best of Android with the best of WM, and retains the WM Sense look which I feel image/design-wise is the best in today's mobile world. My phone's homescreen looks amazing now, in ways I couldn't have imagined or hoped for only last week.
smeddy said:
Great review.
I was so happy to see NRG release a cooked-in version mere hours after the beta turned up, and as my phone had gone skewy just hours earlier, it was perfect timing.
It's amazing, completely pushing the envelope in terms of Sense, and I can't thank Cookie enough. I love how you have maybe 28 home-tabs to play with in total (if I've got my 7x4 right!), and every single aspect of Sense can be moved around at will in this space.
I was going to suggest a thread where we can post:
- Ideas/requests even for what widgets would we like to see. Maybe some devs can pitch in to describe the scope for what's available, content-wise.
- Pictures of our homepages where we had produced a striking new look thanks to Cookie. Obviously pictures speak louder than words, and if I can get myMobiler running I'll grab some, but if anyone finds novel layouts for Sense thanks to CHT, give us a demo!
EDIT: Here's a pic: I really like how widgets can overlap different pages (e.g. you can see the corners of my emails and texts on my main homescreen), and even each other (e.g. lanscape emails and texts)
Anyway, I didn't mean to thread-jack, I think this is a flawless (ignoring your typical beta bugs) mod, and I can't praise co0kie + team enough for this release. As you said, it combines the best of Android with the best of WM, and retains the WM Sense look which I feel image/design-wise is the best in today's mobile world. My phone's homescreen looks amazing now, in ways I couldn't have imagined or hoped for only last week.
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gonna install it now.
probably i finally say bye to spb mobile shell?
UPDATE: omg, this is amazing! first time i really like sense
got only one thing to complain, the messaging widget opens only htc message.. wich likes to lag here. im using the default one since years.. so it would be nice to choose between htcmessage and tmail.exe.....
im gonna use it now the next days, lets see if sense is still so extreme battery hungry
UPDATE2: i think i should read more: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6254429&postcount=5857 hope this works
Can I install it over the 1.8.5 or should uninstall it first.?
Can I uninstall Version 2.0 just in case something went wrong and install the old one?
is this the beta version? have you detected any bugs?
Just install over 1.8.5 and it will replace it all for you I tried saving settings but it tells me it's invalid will have to look further into that one .
This is the beta version only bug I've found so far is that if I use the the add-on digital clock and add-on standalone weather sometimes they disappear from the screen randomly, swipe the screen and they reappear . Odd one that and although a bit annoying not at all a deal breaker in my opinion .
hagba said:
Can I install it over the 1.8.5 or should uninstall it first.?
Can I uninstall Version 2.0 just in case something went wrong and install the old one?
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is this the beta version? have you detected any bugs?
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smeddy said:
Great review.
I was so happy to see NRG release a cooked-in version mere hours after the beta turned up, and as my phone had gone skewy just hours earlier, it was perfect timing.
It's amazing, completely pushing the envelope in terms of Sense, and I can't thank Cookie enough. I love how you have maybe 28 home-tabs to play with in total (if I've got my 7x4 right!), and every single aspect of Sense can be moved around at will in this space.
I was going to suggest a thread where we can post:
- Ideas/requests even for what widgets would we like to see. Maybe some devs can pitch in to describe the scope for what's available, content-wise.
- Pictures of our homepages where we had produced a striking new look thanks to Cookie. Obviously pictures speak louder than words, and if I can get myMobiler running I'll grab some, but if anyone finds novel layouts for Sense thanks to CHT, give us a demo!
EDIT: Here's a pic: I really like how widgets can overlap different pages (e.g. you can see the corners of my emails and texts on my main homescreen), and even each other (e.g. lanscape emails and texts)
Anyway, I didn't mean to thread-jack, I think this is a flawless (ignoring your typical beta bugs) mod, and I can't praise co0kie + team enough for this release. As you said, it combines the best of Android with the best of WM, and retains the WM Sense look which I feel image/design-wise is the best in today's mobile world. My phone's homescreen looks amazing now, in ways I couldn't have imagined or hoped for only last week.
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Very good like where you've put the weather and that you keep in touch with your mum . Did you know you can increase the size of the program freelinks after you've installed them ?
Only install over 1.8.5 if its cooked into your rom.......
if not you really should uninstall first then apply 2.0............
One thing that wasnt mentioned in the first post.....
with regards to CHTS..... possibly the best feature about this whole update is the fact that you can save your sense layouts through chts and reapply them in seconds....... you can also save your baseline (a blank canvas on which to build your screens / layouts) this means that when you reflash or hard reset you dont have to set up cht again........ 2 clicks and your whole theme is reapplied.....
Someone said that pictures speak louder than words so to give you an example.....
CHTS allows you to go from this.........
to this..........
in just a few minutes...........
I love this feature so much I cant stop ranting about it at every opportunity lol.........
ok guys, i have something to ask before i install this awesome sounding app. at the moment i have 1.8.5 installed and lots of extras such as: a new taskbar, different coloured top and bottom bars, a new digi clock which i really like, new slider and slider box,wacpac wall paper changer plus more, just lots of little extras really. now will these still work with the new cht as its taken ages for me to gather all this gear i have to make my phone look good (for me at least lol). please tell me im ok to go ahead and install...........
sounds F**** awesome -think i will wait for final version..i cant wait!!..CHT nevers ceases to amaze me..great work!
donwhann said:
ok guys, i have something to ask before i install this awesome sounding app. at the moment i have 1.8.5 installed and lots of extras such as: a new taskbar, different coloured top and bottom bars, a new digi clock which i really like, new slider and slider box,wacpac wall paper changer plus more, just lots of little extras really. now will these still work with the new cht as its taken ages for me to gather all this gear i have to make my phone look good (for me at least lol). please tell me im ok to go ahead and install...........
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taskbar and slider will be fine......
top/bottom bars and clock can be reapplied....(uninstall before updating)
you wont need wapac anymore (CHTS will do that for you) you can still use wapac if you prefer though......
Moschino02 said:
sounds F**** awesome -think i will wait for final version..i cant wait!!..CHT nevers ceases to amaze me..great work!
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I think there might quite a while before the "final" version because the beta is functioning so well.......
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Are you running this on an HD2? If so, how did you get the Home tab to go to landscape?
conantroutman said:
taskbar and slider will be fine......
top/bottom bars and clock can be reapplied....(uninstall before updating)
you wont need wapac anymore (CHTS will do that for you) you can still use wapac if you prefer though......
cheers mate, thats the answer i was hoping for. now i just have to wait for my bloody phone to come back from htc.......been gone 10 days and counting.
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donwhann said:
conantroutman said:
taskbar and slider will be fine......
top/bottom bars and clock can be reapplied....(uninstall before updating)
you wont need wapac anymore (CHTS will do that for you) you can still use wapac if you prefer though......
cheers mate, thats the answer i was hoping for. now i just have to wait for my bloody phone to come back from htc.......been gone 10 days and counting.
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Well at least when it comes back you'll a nice fresh phone to install on to........
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donwhann said:
Well at least when it comes back you'll a nice fresh phone to install on to........
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yeah there is that, but its hard work man, seems to be taking forever
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mufch:
"Very good like where you've put the weather and that you keep in touch with your mum . Did you know you can increase the size of the program freelinks after you've installed them?"
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Hehe, I reckon my mum's text probably read: "Are you still alive?" I did know about making the Free Links bigger, but I made them smaller instead
conantroutman: Cool homepage! On the second screen, are the pictures shortcuts? A wallpaper? Looks very cool and I may copy!
xnifex: There's a cool app called changescreen, which has always worked flawlessly for me on many ROMS. The thread is here. You have many options such as launch on startup, change sensitivity, rotate in all four directions, create exceptions, and a few more. It's freeware and perfect. (Energy's ROMs also have a Rotate App built in, where a long hold on the "Call" key rotates the screen).
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mufch:
conantroutman: Cool homepage! On the second screen, are the pictures shortcuts? A wallpaper? Looks very cool and I may copy!
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thanks man
the pics are the quicklinks
its a wallpaper with transparent quicklinks on top......
i will be releasing it as a CHTS layout sometime soon so all you have to do is drop a folder into your sd card and select that theme from CHT switchgui and booom! you have it all set up in a few mins........
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Are you running this on an HD2? If so, how did you get the Home tab to go to landscape?
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I was asking myself too ?
smeddy said:
mufch:
xnifex: There's a cool app called changescreen, which has always worked flawlessly for me on many ROMS. The thread is here. You have many options such as launch on startup, change sensitivity, rotate in all four directions, create exceptions, and a few more. It's freeware and perfect. (Energy's ROMs also have a Rotate App built in, where a long hold on the "Call" key rotates the screen).
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I wonder if any rotation app will work? I just thought that the HD2 just wasn't capable or rotating the Home Screen at all.
Sorry, I guess I should stress that landscape has become more supported through the last few versions of Sense, so it doesn't work on earlier versions - but try it with CHT, it will possibly work.
I'm a user, not a developer, so someone correct me if I'm wrong

ICS on Nexus S Complaints, Dissapointed, Downgrade

To be clear, I am liking ICS a lot, and am happy to see where Android is progressing. Here are a few complaints, however:
-I can't believe they disabled the search capacity button from the home screen. If you remove the search bar, there's no way to search from the home screen. Still hate the fact that the top bar is unusable space.
-Limited items in folders. This is one area which I don't understand why they back-peddled. It's very iOS-like, and it's one of the worst things to copy. Max 16 apps in a folder now. My understanding was that it was unlimited before. This will require adjustment.
-The icons look childish. Wish Google would truly allow customization and let us change the icons like other launchers do.
-Still no ability to add custom shortcuts to the home screen (like ADW Launcher can). Unless I'm mistaken? How do I make a direct dial icon?
-Long pressing Home button for the app switcher feels slow and clunky. It takes a while for the list of apps to show up.
Well, that's all I can think of for now. Still getting the hang of it. Again, overall, I'm really enjoying ICS. The UI is so modern and sleek looking.
You can add direct dial shortcuts through the widget section dude
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Search cap. button works here
I noticed that the quality of the panorama pictures is terrible. It looks like a Polaroid.
sashajovicic said:
Search cap. button works here
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On the main home screen? Pressing it once brings up search? It doesn't for me.
onthecouchagain said:
On the main home screen? Pressing it once brings up search? It doesn't for me.
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Yes it does for me.
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onthecouchagain said:
On the main home screen? Pressing it once brings up search? It doesn't for me.
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i can confirm the button also works for me
I'm loving ICS on the Nexus S, too. However, my battery life is atrocious since the upgrade today. I went from 100% to 4% in less than 6 hours. It wasn't that I was using it or playing with it that much, either. All the settings were similar to what they were on 2.3.6, e.g., low backlight, GPS/WiFi/Bluetooth off, push email on, account sync on. I was getting 12+ hours with up to 20% left on Gingerbread with these settings. According to the battery app, it looks like "Android OS" might be the culprit, as "keep awake" is listed as the highest-ranked battery usage over everything else, including screen, voice calls, cell standby, etc. I've read on other forums about a possible Android OS bug with the SGS II. I'm thinking it might be so with ICS on the NS. Anyone else have this issue? How do we report it to Google so we can get a bug fix?
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-The icons look childish. Wish Google would truly allow customization and let us change the icons like other launchers do.
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icons are still customizable, as they are with any rom. The launcher my not let you do it as easily as other launcher aps from within android.. but you can still do it externally by editing the icon files from the flash able rom file.
One small issue I found: Lock sound never plays even when the option is checked. Besides that, I'm really liking ICS. I wish the default widgets were more customizable. (e.g., calendar widget is one row too long, GMail widget is one column too wide) As a person with a severe visual impairment, I find the "Larger" text option a nice touch.
sir topas said:
I'm loving ICS on the Nexus S, too. However, my battery life is atrocious since the upgrade today. I went from 100% to 4% in less than 6 hours.
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This couldn't be a battery calibration issue with the upgrade could it? I'm experiencing the same at the minute. I seem to recall there is a way to clear the battery stats but I can't remember where I read it.
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One small issue I found: Lock sound never plays even when the option is checked. Besides that, I'm really liking ICS. I wish the default widgets were more customizable. (e.g., calendar widget is one row too long, GMail widget is one column too wide) As a person with a severe visual impairment, I find the "Larger" text option a nice touch.
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You can easily resize them by a long press on a widget without delete it, you will see the widget outline get blue with diamond which you can hold too resize.
pepours said:
You can easily resize them by a long press on a widget without delete it, you will see the widget outline get blue with diamond which you can hold too resize.
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Oh wow, thanks! By the way, I found my issue for the lock screen: it got switched to None. I guess I forgot to switch it back after looking for the Face Unlock feature.
Speaking if which, looking at other threads it seems this feature was dropped for the Nexus S due to poor front-facing camera resolution. Oh well.
PS: I wish the custom message you can put on the lockscreen was more customizable than one scrolling line.
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search button working for me too
and you can hide search bar In preference
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How about you guys give it about a week and then start complaining BC now you just sound like some whiney brats.
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One thing I noticed is it gets rather sluggish at times. UI is smooth but there are very bad lags. Noticeable with even just the a live wallpaper, you can see it stutters every ten seconds or so.
Also, some apps won't work, Viber for example. It installs but it doesn't work, it just won't start. Black screen.
Maybe I should wait until the official OTA comes available for me, in Italy, through Software Update, and see if things are better? I have an i9020T, though- isn't the update going to be the same exact file?
if your battery life is really bad try turning off NFC and see if that makes a difference. From the Alpha I managed to get about 25 hours (once..) but cannot remember what I changed to get that.
the two complains I have : auto brightness doesn't work as well as it used too.
and google talk signs me out after a while without telling me.
Face unlock didn't seem to make the cut on the Nexus S.
Posted this in the ICS link section... this seems like a better place for it.
Anyone seeing any issues with the completely stock ICS on the TMo version of the nexus S?
Issues I am seeing so far:
Delayed scrolling when I swipe in the web browser. Seems as if the browser is trying to determine if I meant to click a link or scroll and the delay for the OS to decide is MUCH longer than it was on GB. (Maybe that was intended but maybe they over compensated).
The browser exits (doesn't even force close), just exits on certain websites when trying to scroll.
I hear reports of it being "buttery smooth" and honestly mine feels like it is slower than GB.. maybe that is because of my perception that the scrolling is slower...
Curious to see if this is happening to anyone else...

[Q] Confusion! PA/PACman/Rootbox/Revolt Differences

I just flash all of these roms today to verify, and I'm sure everyone has noticed but why does PA/PACman missing sooooo many options than Rootbox/Revolt?
-Alternate toggles setup which is missing the "favorite user" option and is not user friendly
-Lacking customization for pie options
-No option for Navbar/status bar transparency
Its really confusing because RootBox and Revolt roms have all the options that every rom on this thread have accept one thing.....PA. Which means there is no options to use hybrid options/colorPAoptions/PAdpi Settings, etc.
Its really confusing why there are two very distinct bases that Devs are using for roms,is there a reason why these differences can't be combined? Does anyone know if there will every be a rom that runs that same base as Rootbox/Revolt but have PA?
Yes, I usually avoid these types of post, but gosh does this not bother anyone else?
well theres toggle customization, thanks to cm,
theres customization for pie,
and theres options for bar colors including alpha that naturally go beyond anything else because of hybrid
but still - we're trying to keep things simple and minimal. thats our direction. if rootbox or revolt wants to go another way thats their choice.
i just personally do not enjoy roms that are heavy with options, i dont think thats a good thing and it conflicts with android which is still whats making 99% of the whole.
as for pie, i want something thats quick and easy to navigate. i dont want quick access everywhere i lay my finger on you know? like ... you switch on phone, theres shortcut options, shortcuts in your navbar, shortcuts on your google now circle, shortcuts in your notificationpanel, shortcuts in your togglepanel, shortcuts clenched on poor pie-in the worst case via multirow, shortcuts here shortcuts there. who'd like such a frankenstein of a rom? i sure dont. and if theres roms that truly cater to those needs - well more power to them and by all means, go that route.
most people on xda, and i am very happy about that, still value coherency. and they'd rather see new features getting made piece by piece. its the same with music. i like albums and bands. but there's some people that prefer ready-made collections and top10-samplers or whatever. i dont judge that, its a simple matter of preference.
molesarecoming said:
well theres toggle customization, thanks to cm,
theres customization for pie,
and theres options for bar colors including alpha that naturally go beyond anything else because of hybrid
but still - we're trying to keep things simple and minimal. thats our direction. if rootbox or revolt wants to go another way thats their choice.
i just personally do not enjoy roms that are heavy with options, i dont think thats a good thing and it conflicts with android which is still whats making 99% of the whole.
as for pie, i want something thats quick and easy to navigate. i dont want quick access everywhere i lay my finger on you know? like ... you switch on phone, theres shortcut options, shortcuts in your navbar, shortcuts on your google now circle, shortcuts in your notificationpanel, shortcuts in your togglepanel, shortcuts clenched on poor pie-in the worst case via multirow, shortcuts here shortcuts there. who'd like such a frankenstein of a rom? i sure dont. and if theres roms that truly cater to those needs - well more power to them and by all means, go that route.
most people on xda, and i am very happy about that, still value coherency. and they'd rather see new features getting made piece by piece. its the same with music. i like albums and bands. but there's some people that prefer ready-made collections and top10-samplers or whatever. i dont judge that, its a simple matter of preference.
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Thank you for the valuable response. I was kind of expecting a lot of bashing from normal users. So I guess I have to how they combine these features.
Haven't tried Revolt, but I like the Pacman rom and Rootbox is good too

Enhancements Suggestions

What do you wish for your HTC One? tell the world and the developers, what should be improved.
for example:
1. I wish the lock-screen was more beneficial, to see more notifications (like from Gmail App and Viber) + quick launch of google now from the lock
2. Quick Settings toggle (kinda solved thru mods)
3. Automatic screen wake up on certain notifications
any other ideas? please share
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What do you wish for your HTC One? tell the world and the developers, what should be improved.
for example:
1. I wish the lock-screen was more beneficial, to see more notifications (like from Gmail App and Viber) + quick launch of google now from the lock
2. Quick Settings toggle (kinda solved thru mods)
3. Automatic screen wake up on certain notifications
any other ideas? please share
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I think it would be nice for them to add a couple of fresh animations in there, such as when you press the App Drawer icon that animation is absolutely awful, and a bit laggy too! I think it's the one Google used in stock Gingerbread. It would be nice to see them add themes back, for example Sense 2-4 all had themes that you could set and it just added to that personalization of the device.
I think the 'Power Saver' in the scroll down Menu should be moved into the 'Power Saving' menu and you should be able to select a certain battery percent that it comes on at. It would be nice to have a quick settings in a way that HTC used to have them, though I am certain we shall see that in the near future as Android 4.2 has these.
One thing I loved about the iPhone, was the ability to save what you have copied to the clipboard after restarting the device. I'd love to see this implemented onto the One.
Also, the way you add Shortcuts to the homescreen is just terrible. You should NOT have to go to the widget add Menu.
Mike
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I think it would be nice for them to add a couple of fresh animations in there, such as when you press the App Drawer icon that animation is absolutely awful, and a bit laggy too! I think it's the one Google used in stock Gingerbread. It would be nice to see them add themes back, for example Sense 2-4 all had themes that you could set and it just added to that personalization of the device.
I think the 'Power Saver' in the scroll down Menu should be moved into the 'Power Saving' menu and you should be able to select a certain battery percent that it comes on at. It would be nice to have a quick settings in a way that HTC used to have them, though I am certain we shall see that in the near future as Android 4.2 has these.
One thing I loved about the iPhone, was the ability to save what you have copied to the clipboard after restarting the device. I'd love to see this implemented onto the One.
Also, the way you add Shortcuts to the homescreen is just terrible. You should NOT have to go to the widget add Menu.
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Thank you so much for your input very interesting points. I guess many people like to choose themes and be able to personalize their HTC One, the way they like. It's a matter of taste and personal choice really.
Other thing i noticed about android or HTC One compared to iphone is auto vido conversion when i send a video clip thru WhatsApp. i wanted to send a short video to my friend and whatsApp couldn't do that because the file was over 12 MB. iOS coverts the video automatically! That's another tiny annoying thing i found about the HTC.
I think there is much room for improvement to make this device the best handset ever!
If anyone else has ideas, please post
Your right, this handset is easily the most beautiful android one ever created, along with the HTC Magic and in my opinion, also the Hero.
Your welcome
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I completely agree about waking the screen for certain notifications especially text messages and calendar alerts. The chompsms app will light up the screen for text messages but I haven't found a solution for calendar alerts.
This is something I really miss coming from ios. I have to say ios is actually better in the way it handles notifications in allowing you to select what appears in the lock screen and having a centralised notification centre where you can change settings for all your notifications.
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I completely agree about waking the screen for certain notifications especially text messages and calendar alerts. The chompsms app will light up the screen for text messages but I haven't found a solution for calendar alerts.
This is something I really miss coming from ios. I have to say ios is actually better in the way it handles notifications in allowing you to select what appears in the lock screen and having a centralised notification centre where you can change settings for all your notifications.
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Yes! iOS handles lock-screen notifications way better! there is an App called LockerPro Lockscreen. It's clean and it solves this problem but it interferes with the display time settings these things should be solved out of the box but luckily we have really great enthusiastic developers here on XDA who love to create custom ROMS and mods to make our life easier and even prettier
I hope some of these developers will read this thread and maybe will release new mods and fixes
My wishes:
- when i look on power it should show display (battery) usage like on vanilla android
- better idle comsumption
- folder should take more then 16 apps
RoachPapa said:
My wishes:
- when i look on power it should show display (battery) usage like on vanilla android
- better idle comsumption
- folder should take more then 16 apps
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Thanks four the input. Interesting stuff. If you are into custom ROMS and mods. I strongly suggest you try out TrickDroid from troxx. one of the tweaks there, which you can apply. is to increase the max icons in the folder up to 25.
the customs ROM has so many other cool tweaks and minor UI enhancement.
here is a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192324
1. I missed so much USB mass storage mod on my SGS3 last year fortunately there was some 3rd party apk, but it wont work on HTC Ones internal storage so please make some UMS mod most people will be glad I think
2. definitely 60fps videos improvement. After i saw most of the 60fps videos on youtube I was so dissapointed. Im talking about both slow motion and fast 60fps videos in year 2013!!! even SGS3 was able to handle 60fps slow motion better after SW mods than One with such a powerfull HW and 240p? HTC are you serious? this will be cool to have them at least @720p THX santa
3. ofcourse some mods on camera photos too
4. if its even possible to camera interface...whats one of the most used function? Exposure! I saw how long took the photographer to adjust exposure for one photo! Look at the last years samsung GS3 camera interface. 4 in words FOUR customisable shortcuts...thats cool and I wish something like that on HTC not Zoe which wont be used most times...where is brain and logic only ads and marketing I see in HTC One SW BTW Im waiting for One so do not blame me for trolling as its the most popular word last month after One was unveiled LoL
1. Long press back for menu
2. Customisable/user added content for blinkfeed i.e importing of google reader feeds
3. Scrollable wallpaper
4. Hide power bar from pull down menu (this does not work on my sim free phone)
5. Pull down toggles for wifi etc as per android 4.2.2
6. Change font size on blink feed articles
7. Sort blinkfeed by content type
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1. Long press back for menu
2. Customisable/user added content for blinkfeed i.e importing of google reader feeds
3. Scrollable wallpaper
4. Hide power bar from pull down menu (this does not work on my sim free phone)
5. Pull down toggles for wifi etc as per android 4.2.2
6. Change font size on blink feed articles
7. Sort blinkfeed by content type
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Ya.. Blinkfeed should be improved! sadly there is no mods for it yet.. but for the most other stuff you mentioned you can try the mods on the Android Development page.. try TrickDroid! they have this cool toggle mod which looks very native and nice. i hope HTC will improve some of these stuff soon with next firmware update.
I don't have the device yet, but from what I've seen with the custom ROMs on here, I would like to see:
1. Various camera tweaks, such as enforcing a set bit rate for videos and audio, having photos set at 100% quality (ie, minimal jpeg compression), and using volume buttons as a shutter.
2. Add more flexibility to Zoes, such as increasng the length of the videos recorded, having the ability to change video resolution, and enforcing a set picture quality.
3. Make Prism (Sense 5's launcher) more like Sense 4's Rosie. Things such as a scrollable wallpaper, the 3D rendered home screen transitions, the normal way of adding app shortcuts, landscape mode support, and a horizonally scrolling app drawer were nice in my opinion. Also, a 5x6 app drawer and stock jelly bean transitons when returning from an app would be great too.
4. Having the ability to choose and apply themes just like in previous Sense versions.
5. BlinkFeed customizations: having custom feeds, having the ability to remove BlinkFeed from Prism, making BlinkFeed a widget, content sorting by type.
6. Android 4.2 quick settings or Sense 4 quick settings.
7. Adding an additonal lockscreen that has the ability to add widgets.
8. Choosing whatever combination of button presses does what (ex: double-tap home for either menu, recent apps, search, custom app, etc., long-press home for menu, recent apps, search, custom app, etc., you get where I'm going.)
9. Customizable 3-finger gestures.
The following is also something a bit more nit picky, since I've been spoiled with the Venom ROM on my Sensation:
>Setting custom backgrounds for the pulldown notification screen and app drawer.
>Status bar themes.
>App icon packs for the stock launcher.
>A sub-setting/app that bundles all possible customizations under one interface.
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I don't have the device yet, but from what I've seen with the custom ROMs on here, I would like to see:
1. Various camera tweaks, such as enforcing a set bit rate for videos and audio, having photos set at 100% quality (ie, minimal jpeg compression), and using volume buttons as a shutter.
2. Add more flexibility to Zoes, such as increasng the length of the videos recorded, having the ability to change video resolution, and enforcing a set picture quality.
3. Make Prism (Sense 5's launcher) more like Sense 4's Rosie. Things such as a scrollable wallpaper, the 3D rendered home screen transitions, the normal way of adding app shortcuts, landscape mode support, and a horizonally scrolling app drawer were nice in my opinion. Also, a 5x6 app drawer and stock jelly bean transitons when returning from an app would be great too.
4. Having the ability to choose and apply themes just like in previous Sense versions.
5. BlinkFeed customizations: having custom feeds, having the ability to remove BlinkFeed from Prism, making BlinkFeed a widget, content sorting by type.
6. Android 4.2 quick settings or Sense 4 quick settings.
7. Adding an additonal lockscreen that has the ability to add widgets.
8. Choosing whatever combination of button presses does what (ex: double-tap home for either menu, recent apps, search, custom app, etc., long-press home for menu, recent apps, search, custom app, etc., you get where I'm going.)
9. Customizable 3-finger gestures.
The following is also something a bit more nit picky, since I've been spoiled with the Venom ROM on my Sensation:
>Setting custom backgrounds for the pulldown notification screen and app drawer.
>Status bar themes.
>App icon packs for the stock launcher.
>A sub-setting/app that bundles all possible customizations under one interface.
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wow..that is one one hell of a list for someone who doesn't even own the device lol but yeah. Zoe needs some flexibility indeed. It sucks that i can't convert the video to a smaller size! and somehow the whole Zoe Highlight video thing is hidden. It took me some time to figure out, that is under events! some of your wishes has been already resolved. there are many EQS mods now and they are getting better!
anyway, most of what you have mentioned, should have been resolved by HTC and gave us a better out-of-box experience!
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Ya.. Blinkfeed should be improved! sadly there is no mods for it yet.. but for the most other stuff you mentioned you can try the mods on the Android Development page.. try TrickDroid! they have this cool toggle mod which looks very native and nice. i hope HTC will improve some of these stuff soon with next firmware update.
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No interest yet in rooting as I want to keep my warranty but in the future you never know.
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No interest yet in rooting as I want to keep my warranty but in the future you never know.
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ya well. i was hesitant at the beginning too but then i decided to take the risk. the whole warranty issue is still under debate. There are some legitimate claims, that rooting doesn't necessarily void the warranty. It\s different anyway from country to another.
for me, i want be able to do whatever i want with my device. When i buy PC. then i can install any OS i please and have access to everything. If someone over-clocks his CPU and fries it. then i undersand the warranty is voided, but just because i root my device and install some mod to enhance my settings menu. then logically and even maybe legally, HTC has no right to punish me like this.. in all cases, i really don't care
I want to try custom ROMs later and ATM my phone is on the way to repair. My blinkfeed freezes after each boot. I couldn't repair that.
If you want more visual effects, you will loose the smoothness.
gesendet vom Galaxy S
I just decided to get a One because I heard you cannot install apps to Micro SD, so I'd rather have 32GB internal than 16GB of the GS4, also though looking at the OLED screen, the thing has black clipping issues in pre release form anyways. I watch a lot of video when walking the dog like F1 live stream and I really don't want headphones, so the speakers help.
One thing I hate is Blinkfeed, I really wanna be able to turn it off, I wouldn't mind it if I could customize it so the phone functions like Windows Phone, I really love live tiles. The problem is you cannot do much with it and you cannot turn it off, it almost ruins the phone for me, I don't see why it needs to be there.
I don't use social features like Facebook, I hate that crap and I don't want any news, I just use Websites for that....... just such a pointless feature. I also think the gallery is ****, don't see why I need to have my friends photos pop up, I just want mine thanx.
Cannot wait till Cyanogenmod or something comes out for it, I don't get some design choices HTC have made.
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One thing I hate is Blinkfeed, I really wanna be able to turn it off
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You may not be able to turn it off but I'm fairly sure you can set a different screen as your home screen, effectively hiding it
A 5 inch display
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Maybe a 5" edge to edge display with on-screen Android soft-keys? Threw this together to show what it might look like. But seriously, it doesn't really add much; this phone is already pretty perfect the way it is! I'm sure I can get used to the two button capacitive navigation controls. I can't wait to get mine!

Do not install Lollipop if...

I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You care about homescreen widgets, indeed in Lollipop you can have notifications on the homescreen but it is all or nothing. You can't just have whatsapp or email for example. If you select no notifications, there is not even an icon in the status bar.
You want to use Xposed or Xprivacy. Indeed xposed is buggy and xprivacy does not work well (if you can install it without bootloops, which I couldn't)
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
You care about battery life. Indeed it seems that Lollipop is buggy and has some memory leaks which slow down the system and make it use more CPU I was wrong about this one, while there are memory leaks they do not seem to affect battery life significantly
If you want to be able to switch on silent/airplane mode from the power off menu
if you want to keep ‘hi-res audio via usb’ ... as its gone in Lollipop. | reported by Scoobidu
if you liked the ability to go to relevant settings (wifi for example) by a long tap (on the wifi icon) in the control centerstill possible if you tap the name and not the icon, my bad
difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You care about homescreen widgets, indeed in Lollipop you can have notifications on the homescreen but it is all or nothing. You can't just have whatsapp or email for example.
You want to use Xposed or Xprivacy. Indeed xposed is buggy and xprivacy does not work well (if you can install it without bootloops, which I couldn't)
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
You care about battery life. Indeed it seems that Lollipop is buggy and has some memory leaks which slow down the system and make it use more CPU
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I approve everything that you said, my suggestion for everybody is to update to lollipop only when they'll make a 5.1 update that solves the cpu and memory problem.
difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You care about homescreen widgets, indeed in Lollipop you can have notifications on the homescreen but it is all or nothing. You can't just have whatsapp or email for example.
You want to use Xposed or Xprivacy. Indeed xposed is buggy and xprivacy does not work well (if you can install it without bootloops, which I couldn't)
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
You care about battery life. Indeed it seems that Lollipop is buggy and has some memory leaks which slow down the system and make it use more CPU
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Battery is the same. Performance is better. Especially on 726. Even benchmarks prove it.
You can change the theme to change the colour of the bar.
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Sadman Khan said:
Battery is the same. Performance is better. Especially on 726. Even benchmarks prove it.
You can change the theme to change the colour of the bar.
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Yeap, battery for me is quite the same, I am regreting because of xposed. But haopy because finally I can change from landscape to portrait easily and faster. Animations rock and the old statusbar sucked. New lockscreen is way better than the old one. And double tap to sleep works faster too. All while battery being a bit better than before.
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Aside from the small Xposed thing, I don't have a lot to complain about actually. Kinda like Lollipop.
Gonna try 23.1.A.0.726 if u say so..
E66666666 said:
Aside from the small Xposed thing, I don't have a lot to complain about actually. Kinda like Lollipop.
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Maan, I need a way to modify the NAV bar... Having the back key so far away when using constantly, irritates me. ALSO a way to set flashlight to a keypress...(xposed whyyy)
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fenchai said:
Maan, I need a way to modify the NAV bar... Having the back key so far away when using constantly, irritates me. ALSO a way to set flashlight to a keypress...(xposed whyyy)
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Yes Xposed is the biggest loss, you can install the alpha version of Xposed, maybe it will work I am not sure why it caused a bootloop for me (might also be older modules) the only catch is that you might have to reflash /system through the recovery (step 40 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343) in case of bootloop but you don't loose your data/apps.
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You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
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For who needs the "close all" button, I've just uploaded the russian firmware HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60044680&postcount=903
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difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
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I have already rolled back to kitkat.. I prefer the UI and everything i need is compatible and working how it should ..
I have to say I didnt enjoy my experience with lollipop and can't see myself attempting the update again..
There were just no benefits for me other than it felt a tiny bit more snappier.
Poor/rushed effort from Sony in my eyes, they could of done alot better.
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Even I've rolled back to KitKat.. I love the lollipop animation and the fact that is quicker, but not having the possibility to have more quicksetting (using Serajr Xposed App) and using many GB setting is a a enormous loss for me (and I hate the new silent mode on lollipop!) .. If CM didn't have the photo problem because of the loss of the algorithm, I would installed immediately . For now I'll stay on KitKat, waiting for having back the xposed modules at full potential. Just my thoughts and experience anyway!
Matteo Mazzu said:
Even I've rolled back to KitKat.. I love the lollipop animation and the fact that is quicker, but not having the possibility to have more quicksetting (using Serajr Xposed App) and using many GB setting is a a enormous loss for me (and I hate the new silent mode on lollipop!) .. If CM didn't have the photo problem because of the loss of the algorithm, I would installed immediately . For now I'll stay on KitKat, waiting for having back the xposed modules at full potential. Just my thoughts and experience anyway!
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Notifications are a mess on Lollipop, either you have your lock screen full of notifications or nothing. You can just have icons in the status bar as on KitKat. As for the the silent mode of Lollipop, regular modes are also available if you put it on "normal ringer" and you click the speaker it will go on vibration instead. That said the power off menu is crappy too, no possiblity to put on silent, no possbility to put on flight mode.
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I dont get this. Just change to another theme, and the bar isn't blue anymore.
SylverPT said:
I dont get this. Just change to another theme, and the bar isn't blue anymore.
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There are some colour choices.they are all bright.you can not choose black like kitkat.bright colour distract me from app.
Matteo Mazzu said:
Even I've rolled back to KitKat.. I love the lollipop animation and the fact that is quicker, but not having the possibility to have more quicksetting (using Serajr Xposed App) and using many GB setting is a a enormous loss for me (and I hate the new silent mode on lollipop!) .. If CM didn't have the photo problem because of the loss of the algorithm, I would installed immediately . For now I'll stay on KitKat, waiting for having back the xposed modules at full potential. Just my thoughts and experience anyway!
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how many quick toggle can be on the notification bar?
I llike LP but it has some problem about xposed or some module
get bootloop 5 times on day hahaha
i back to KK temporary
sumon511 said:
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Change the theme man
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difto said:
I was quite disappointed by the update and I am thinking about rolling back on Kitkat. Those are my main concerns with Lollipop, feel free to share yours or your solutions/workarounds. So do not install Lollipop if:
You would like an efficient app switcher, this kind of drawer in Lollipop just complicate things, do not provide a good overview but that's my point of view. In addition it does not come with the close all button on every customizations
You don't want a blue notification bar which looks too bright in apps
If you want to be able to switch on silent/airplane mode from the power off menu
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You can still silent mode by pressing the volume button.
The themer a lil useless for me now, not sure if its the same for you guys but i theming changes nothing much other than minor colors, the nav bar seems to be unable to theme.
Agreed that the app switcher is not as efficient.
Anyways if you feel the animations a lil not your taste what i did was to set it to 0.5 in developer option. =)
Yes, you can change using the volume button but then you have to unlock the phone, press volume, press silent. Before you just pressed power, silent. Much better in a meeting were you forgot to silence it.
I was wrong, you can silence it while locked.

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