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Visit Groubal and sign the petition: http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Retweet: http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/52265679990169600
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/unlockmoto
UPDATE (14th June 2011):
We are now over the 10,000 mark.
I have now spoken with Motorola and gotten confirmation that Motorola plan to unlock every device that will get an update in the second half of this year. This will include maintenance & firmware updates, but is still subject to Carrier approval.
The promising sign is that Verizon has already allowed Motorola to unlock a device on their network, the Xoom, which utilizes the unlockable/re-lockable model that Motorola intends on using across their devices.
I'm still looking to work with Motorola in the coming months to help see if we can make this a smooth process for Motorola and the community.
You can read the article here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-u...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+ausdroid+(Ausdroid)
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
UPDATE (26th April 2011):
We are now at ~8,700 mark.
Motorola has now responded to me, stating that they are looking at unlocking bootloaders across their devices late 2011.
The article for the story can be found here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/#more-8184
We're still seeking clarity around whether this will be for current devices or only future devices.
I couldn't have gotten this far without the support of everyone here. You guys and girls have been a huge support and help me turn this snowball into a wrecking ball.
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
Previous Update (4th April 2011):
We are now at ~7600 mark.
We're starting to slow down from our initial boom, so I have now set up a Facebook page to see if we can wrangle in some supporters that don't use Twitter or XDA.
I will need your help getting this out there. So share the facebook page where you can.
I'm also looking to see if anyone is interested in helping me Moderate the page. Please PM if you are.
Original Post:
Hi All,
I have created a Groubal (online petition) to get a response from Motorola on it's bootloader policy.
>>This petition started for the Atrix, but I made sure that it was for Motorola's overall Bootloader Policy. I have reached 200 signatures in 2 weeks, but now believe it's time to expand this out of the Atrix space and into the larger Motorola Dev community.
You guys and your silly petitions. They wont and don't ha e to do anything.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
DarrellRaines said:
You guys and your silly petitions. They wont and don't ha e to do anything.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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What can I say, I'm idealistic.
IMO waste of time.
Moto thinks they're God. Also, odds are your gorilla glass will be cracked before this bootloader.
On the other hand, class-action lawsuit is more appealing. Somehow get a lawyer to argue the users right to UTILIZE the hardware, as moto isn't. Lawsuits are the only thing corporations understand.
I did sign it, but I got no hopes...
tical2k said:
IMO waste of time.
Moto thinks they're God. Also, odds are your gorilla glass will be cracked before this bootloader.
On the other hand, class-action lawsuit is more appealing. Somehow get a lawyer to argue the users right to UTILIZE the hardware, as moto isn't. Lawsuits are the only thing corporations understand.
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While litigation may be the way in the U.S. it is not the way in the land down under. We have Government appointed watchdogs that provide avenues for complaints and comments. If a complaint is sufficiently raised to an Ombudsman the company the complaint is about is charged a fee for every day the complaint is not resolved.
Unfortunately the Atrix is not commercially available in Australia and thus I cannot pursue this in a typical Australian way.
If suing the pants of Motorola is likely to work, then I encourage any U.S. Citizens to do so (but only after carefully considering the cause and affect).
I am simply encouraging everyone to focus their complaints rather than spreading it across so many channels and losing it's potency.
Also: in all honesty, it's not really wasting that much time, since I would normally be wasting this time flashing experimental Roms, which I can't do due to obvious readons.
Signed and linked to on Facebook. It's no more a waste of time than flashing a rom...
edit hehe. You beat me to the waste of time comment
Signed it just a second ago!
I'll sign but this has a much lower chance of succeeding than the AT&T service petition, and I'm not convinced we'll see many results from that one.
CC Lemon said:
I'll sign but this has a much lower chance of succeeding than the AT&T service petition, and I'm not convinced we'll see many results from that one.
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But there's no harm in trying is there?
I think that when compared with the DroidX and Droid2, this phone will be available around the world. Verizon is one of the only carriers that still uses CDMA and thus smaller consumer base for the Droid series Motorola phones.
Once the Global Atrix's are released we should see a lot more attention as well as the European Unions attitude towards anti-competitive behaviour might force an inquiry.
Once again, I'm a tad idealistic and am very keen for your support as well as your constructive feedback.
signed~! but i only put 1% of my hopes in this and the rest 99% in the developers to crack the bootloader themselves!!
I support your cause; I have signed.
irenic said:
signed~! but i only put 1% of my hopes in this and the rest 99% in the developers to crack the bootloader themselves!!
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Well put. I signed.
With the new SBF file available we could start seeing more development, but would still be great to hear something from Motorola.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989577
haha.. as if motorola cares. you already bought, its a done deal! they even promised 1080p recording on the specs sheet followed by "(in the future update)".. i seriously dont think there will be an update on this thing..
before you buy, they promise lots of things, "in the future update".
after you gave buy and after a while try asking for the update.. these f*cktards will just say... "what update?"
my hope leans more on supporting the developers who are working hard to crack this wonderful device.. rather than wasting time begging to motorola after you shelled out that sum.
noblewolf said:
haha.. as if motorola cares. you already bought, its a done deal! they even promised 1080p recording on the specs sheet followed by "(in the future update)".. i seriously dont think there will be an update on this thing..
before you buy, they promise lots of things, "in the future update".
after you gave buy and after a while try asking for the update.. these f*cktards will just say... "what update?"
my hope leans more on supporting the developers who are working hard to crack this wonderful device.. rather than wasting time begging to motorola after you shelled out that sum.
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Completely agree, but in all honesty, I had the time to waste.
The Dev's really are the ones that will get the bootloader unlocked or bypassed before motorola even decides to do anything.
The Dev threads are starting to get really exciting.
Sent from my MB860
Just a reminder to anyone who wants to get an official statement from Motorola to go to http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
and tweet or facebook to as many as you can.
Continuing the Battle
So we're up near the 200 signature mark now for the Petition. I've been in touch with Motorola about 6 times in the last 2 weeks, not giving up on this one though.
My last response from them was:
Dear Irwin,
I do apologize but there is no definite timeframe yet for the announcement of the bootloader solution for our mobile phones. Updates for the Motorola ATRIX will be posted first at http://www.motorola.com/Support/CA-EN/Consumer-Support/Mobile-Phones/ATRIX. I'm so sorry for that inconvenience.
We hope that you find this information useful and look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
Neil
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So it's not a flat out denial of an imminent bootloader solution, but we're no closer either.
I will now create similar posts in the other Motorola forums on XDA and see if we can get our Brothers & Sisters to join the party.
I know there are a lot of skeptics, but I will keep trying. I don't have the skill to help the Dev's crack the phone, but I do have the patience to make our voices heard.
ikenley said:
So we're up near the 200 signature mark now for the Petition. I've been in touch with Motorola about 6 times in the last 2 weeks, not giving up on this one though.
My last response from them was:
So it's not a flat out denial of an imminent bootloader solution, but we're no closer either.
I will now create similar posts in the other Motorola forums on XDA and see if we can get our Brothers & Sisters to join the party.
I know there are a lot of skeptics, but I will keep trying. I don't have the skill to help the Dev's crack the phone, but I do have the patience to make our voices heard.
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"bootloader solution" can mean anything. it can even mean staying with their locked bootloader is their solution.
dLo GSR said:
"bootloader solution" can mean anything. it can even mean staying with their locked bootloader is their solution.
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Very concise point, but if you review this statement, then it's in context.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278
Which is all included in the Groubal.
Signed. Maybe someone should design a B&W 8.5x11 printout that can be posted at universities to drum up support... I'm in a CS program and I'm sure there are more than a couple who would take the 2 seconds necessary to sign- I just don't know any of them personally!
I emailed a P.R at otterbox about cases and they responded saying
Hello! Thank you for your interest in our product! Unfortunately,we do not have any information ifthis particular case will be made at this time. I have put in a product suggestion on your behalf, and recommend keeping an eye on our website, as well as, becoming a fan of ours on Facebook. It will have the most up to date information on any new releases that we may have. Additionally, here is a link to a surveyyou can take regarding new product suggestions if you would like to take a few minutes to fill it out: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OtterBoxCustomerService_CaseTiming I can let you know that I received a similar request for this yesterday… the more requests we get, the better!
Lets all submit so we can get a really durable case
For now I went with a Full body Invisible Shield protector!
The Acer case is nice, it's not an Otterbox, but it provides some protection.
Anything new, it has been so many months, yet Otterbox has not produced a case yet for the Acer A500.
I just contacted them as well. Hopefully we can get one.
-J
I e-mailed them a few days ago and got the same response. Iconia isn't getting any love.
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I emailed a P.R at otterbox about cases and they responded saying
Hello! Thank you for your interest in our product! Unfortunately,we do not have any information ifthis particular case will be made at this time. I have put in a product suggestion on your behalf, and recommend keeping an eye on our website, as well as, becoming a fan of ours on Facebook. It will have the most up to date information on any new releases that we may have. Additionally, here is a link to a surveyyou can take regarding new product suggestions if you would like to take a few minutes to fill it out: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OtterBoxCustomerService_CaseTiming I can let you know that I received a similar request for this yesterday… the more requests we get, the better!
Lets all submit so we can get a really durable case
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Wow sounds like the exact same e-mail response for a defender case I was asking for if they had plans to make.
Hi Guys,
I am working with briandevlin(http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3144157) and shedrule over at the X10 forums, to try and get more people from XDA into Google +. If you need an invite, please PM me or briandevlin and we will invite you asap
(In your pm, please include your Name and Gmail address, otherwise the invite will not go through)
Thanks!
Edit: Just to be clear, there is no official invite method for now, I am trying it through a loophole. Some of the people I invited got it, and when they clicked the link it told them it had exceeded capacity, but it did not work for most people.
Nevertheless, I can still try if you want me to, just dont be disappointed if it doesn't work.
I'm sure they will open it up soon enough.
For those of you who are already in, I'm @ gplus.to/rahul . Add me!
Further Update:
It looks like it is opening up to more people now. Head over to the Google Plus webpage and if you're lucky you will be able to sign up (not sure if this requires invite yet)
Update 2: Looks like it is open to the public for now. (Not for long)
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Dave Besbris - 9:56 PM - Public
Hey Google+ folks!
As I bet you've noticed, we are facing pretty incredible demand for Google+ invites.
As Engineering Director of Google+, I wanted to take a moment to explain why we're growing the system slowly. First, we want to make sure our infrastructure scales so the service remains fast and reliable. Second, we want to ensure that bugs are fixed while there are still a relatively few people in the field trial.
Things are going well with the systems right now so we feel comfortable enough to open up invites for a brief period. Our goal is to double the user base in the field trial. (Sorry, we're not giving details about how many folks are in the field trial yet).
So, in a few minutes, we'll open up invites again.
We continue to throttle invites, so please don't mass invite folks as it won't work. If you invite a handful of your most important friends and family you're much more likely to get these folks into our system.
Thanks again for providing so much wonderful feedback!"
What's the sense. There is Facebook and Twitter.
Ok looks like more people are slowly getting invites. For those who've pm-ed me, be patient, I've invited all of you, it will come in time
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doministry said:
What's the sense. There is Facebook and Twitter.
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The point is to move away from facebook
The Android App is really great
Sorry but there are far too many threads on this subject.
Hey all, some or most of you are aware that Otterbox doesn't make any cases for the N4. Although, Otterbox replied on twitter that if they get enough user demand, they will start a production line for them.
Twitter Message: OtterBox
@playerpianocds We are listening but we haven't convinced the R&D Team yet. Keep up the requests and show the "Power is in the People."
If you would like to see a case made for the Nexus 4, please sign the petition at the link below. We have already passed the half way mark!
http://www.change.org/petitions/otte...ogle-nexus-4-2
All support is appreciated :highfive::highfive::good::good::laugh:
***** wrong thread* If mod could transfer thread to accessories that would be great
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Well, that's embarrassing.
Hi all, I was working with Mike Reid on his Android Auto work. I was talking to him up to the day he went to hospital.
Unfortunately, it appears he has passed away. I asked a private investigator to try and contact him - see what hospital is at. We unfortunately found a death record matching his region of Canada.
I'd love to be wrong, but it appears he has passed. The death record matched up to about a week or two after he entered hospital.
My team is continuing his Android Auto work by starting the OpenHU project. We've set up a $10,000 bounty - as Google just broke his app over there with changes to GMS: http://console.com.co/openhu
Saw people asking about this, felt I should share over here on Mike's other projects.
Christopher Price said:
Hi all, I was working with Mike Reid on his Android Auto work. I was talking to him up to the day he went to hospital.
Unfortunately, it appears he has passed away. I asked a private investigator to try and contact him - see what hospital is at. We unfortunately found a death record matching his region of Canada.
I'd love to be wrong, but it appears he has passed. The death record matched up to about a week or two after he entered hospital.
My team is continuing his Android Auto work by starting the OpenHU project. We've set up a $10,000 bounty - as Google just broke his app over there with changes to GMS: http://console.com.co/openhu
Saw people asking about this, felt I should share over here on Mike's other projects.
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Terrible news. But thank you so much on behalf of all of us for sharing it.
Mike had a young family, so I hope somehow we can get a donation account set up for them. I don't think any of us really know the dedication and hours Mike put in to his work, a true labour of love for so little reward. He had so much to contribute. It's still my favourite app of all time. Genius.
God bless him and his family. Wherever they may be.
That's sad to hear - each dead person means relatives left behind, sometimes with insecurities about the financial future.
My condolences to Mike's family, relatives and friends if this turns out to be the sad truth.
May he rest in peace.... I'm very sad. Really.
This comes as a shock to me as it feels like we talked just yesterday. Mike was one of the kind person I came across. It's truly a loss. May he rest in peace.
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Upon seeing no reply to my e-mail from Mike I found this group and joined a minute ago. I am from India and got to know about Mike's great works very late.
It is really sad & shocking news to me if it is true. May his soul rest in peace..
Agree with making a contribution to his beloved ones in respect of his great work.
My condolences to Mike's family.
sad to hear about any death, condolences to Mike's family and may he rest in peace
I know I'm late, but it's sad to see an other XDA contributor/developer has passed away. Much love and respect towards his family
Rest in peace Mike :'(
Very sad to hear Mike passed Always kind and smart person also very good android developer. May he rest in peace.
RIP Mike. I know I'm late, and I didn't know you personally but your effort into SpiritFM has been a huge contribution to the community. Your app was one of the few digital goods I paid for. Thank you for all you have done and RIP. :'(
As a radio DXer that loves Android, Mike was my hero! I'm so shocked to hear about his passing. R.I.P. and condolenses to his family! His legacy will live on!
If true, RIP Mike.
This is shocking news.RIP MIKE
This is shocking and sad. RIP Mike.
If anyone does manage to get confirmation of this, please update on this thread. I was waiting to hear from Mike about an opportunity I am pursuing, and I came upon this thread.
Rest in peace
mervluk said:
Terrible news. But thank you so much on behalf of all of us for sharing it.
Mike had a young family, so I hope somehow we can get a donation account set up for them. I don't think any of us really know the dedication and hours Mike put in to his work, a true labour of love for so little reward. He had so much to contribute. It's still my favourite app of all time. Genius.
God bless him and his family. Wherever they may be.
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:crying::crying::crying::crying:RIP , is he http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/michael-reid-obituary?pid=1000000179632845 ?
@Christopher Price are you also going to open source latest releases of SpiritFM and/or SpiritTransmit ?
Project's no more otherwise.
mirhl said:
@Christopher Price are you also going to open source latest releases of SpiritFM and/or SpiritTransmit ?
Project's no more otherwise.
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I have no source code or activity on those projects. I never even downloaded or used them, sorry.