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Hi all,
I know that i can manage my sync times for hotmail by going
start>messaging>menu>options>hotmail>sync schedule
so i can basically only get my hotmail emails during the day, or when i want them, but there doesn't seem to be a similar option with outlooks direct push.
just wondering is it a possibility, or am i missing something simple?
many thanks
The reason why you can choose not to sync during the night with your hotmail is because you need to check periodically if there is new mail on hotmail, thus using the internet connection regularly.
Push mail works the other way around: whenever the server gets a message, it will contact your device and tell it that there's new mail.
I think that for stopping Pushmail from sending you mails at night you need to change a serverside setting, because it is the server that does the work.
thank you very much for your help mate
i'm with you now!
You can set the schedule of your Exchange email by going to Programs > ActiveSync> Menu > Schedule
In Schedule you can set how often to sync for peak and off-peak times, so what you would probably want to do is set your off-peak times to "Manually" or "Every 4 hours" etc.
At the bottom of the page there is a link that directs you to the page of adjusting the Peak Times.
Hope this helps you.
Cheers
Marcieking said:
The reason why you can choose not to sync during the night with your hotmail is because you need to check periodically if there is new mail on hotmail, thus using the internet connection regularly.
Push mail works the other way around: whenever the server gets a message, it will contact your device and tell it that there's new mail.
I think that for stopping Pushmail from sending you mails at night you need to change a serverside setting, because it is the server that does the work.
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Sorry but that's wrong.
Hotmail is now pushed to WM6.1 phones when you use the Live Wizard to set it up. (Other webmail emails will need a 3rd party app).
If your Outlook is Exchange Push, then you should have the same settings for both.
Ok... so I've recently migrated to Android after several years of WinMo Standard - Windows CE - 5.0 - 6.0 - 6.1 - 6.5.
So far I like Android and I love this phone... never had anything has fast or with such a great screen.
With that being said I'm having several issues that I wanted to run by the people here and see what ya'll thought.
Quick setup background - I have two email accounts I like to use - Gmail and Yahoo. I have all of my conacts in gmail organized the way I like it. Also, I recently gave up on using MS Outlook to manage my contacts and calendar and now use Gmail and Google Calendar to manage those two exclusively.
So here goes my impression/questions/issues - hoping someone can shed some light on it.
In the past with WinMo I could set up POutlook to sync with gmail/g-calendar/google contacts by configuring m.google.com as my activesync/exchange server. Everything seemed to work great. Now however I cannot decide if I should set up the accounts on the INC to sync via exchange or google.
So first question - when using HTC Mail and setting up my gmail account as an exchange server account is it "true" push?
If it is why would anyone want to use the gmail app?
Next - when I set my calendar to sync via exchange it randomly takes my entries and duplicates them on places the duplicate on the day before the original one. Any idea why? When I remove the active sync calendar and have it sync with my google account everything is correct... this is strange to me since its pulling the same data from the same place, my google calendar.
I'm sure I'll add more confusing and rambling thoughts after I continue to mess with this thing.
Thanks!
from my understanding the gmail is instant push and the htc mail app refreshes every 5 minutes (minimum). if this makes a difference to you then it should make your decision easier. hope this helps
anywhereman said:
Ok... so I've recently migrated to Android after several years of WinMo Standard - Windows CE - 5.0 - 6.0 - 6.1 - 6.5.
So far I like Android and I love this phone... never had anything has fast or with such a great screen.
With that being said I'm having several issues that I wanted to run by the people here and see what ya'll thought.
Quick setup background - I have two email accounts I like to use - Gmail and Yahoo. I have all of my conacts in gmail organized the way I like it. Also, I recently gave up on using MS Outlook to manage my contacts and calendar and now use Gmail and Google Calendar to manage those two exclusively.
So here goes my impression/questions/issues - hoping someone can shed some light on it.
In the past with WinMo I could set up POutlook to sync with gmail/g-calendar/google contacts by configuring m.google.com as my activesync/exchange server. Everything seemed to work great. Now however I cannot decide if I should set up the accounts on the INC to sync via exchange or google.
So first question - when using HTC Mail and setting up my gmail account as an exchange server account is it "true" push?
If it is why would anyone want to use the gmail app?
Next - when I set my calendar to sync via exchange it randomly takes my entries and duplicates them on places the duplicate on the day before the original one. Any idea why? When I remove the active sync calendar and have it sync with my google account everything is correct... this is strange to me since its pulling the same data from the same place, my google calendar.
I'm sure I'll add more confusing and rambling thoughts after I continue to mess with this thing.
Thanks!
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i had issues with gmail not pushing properly when set up as an exchange account via HTC mail. other than the push issue, i consider the HTC app superior in every way.
I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I set gmail it notification on, then every time gmail pushes in the mail I check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
This way you can still use HTC mail without it waisting battery power every 5 minutes pull checking.
I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I let gmail push it notification still on, then check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
HolyGrail said:
I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I set gmail it notification on, then every time gmail pushes in the mail I check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
This way you can still use HTC mail without it waisting battery power every 5 minutes pull checking.
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Great idea! I'll have to remember this when my EVO arrives next week.
HolyGrail said:
I just set the HTC mail to manual, turn off the notifications to HTC mail. I let gmail push it notification still on, then check it with the HTC mail. After I check it the notification goes away.
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might do this. thanks for the idea
If you set up your gmail account as an exchange account using m.google.com you can get push by changing your check frequency to "as arrive".
The issue I'm having is that the HTC Mail application wont open any attachments from my gmail account set up through exchange. I just get a message "The file cannot be opened because it is corrupted."
If I open with the gmail application it works fine
As a regular Gmail user, I find the Android Gmail app is superior to the HTC mail app. It gives me the same features I have when using a computer... like marking a star on a conversation, viewing different labels, and since I have multiple email addresses that my Gmail account polls, the Gmail app lets me see which of my email addresses was the recipient. It's right there in the label on the email list, without having to open each mail and look at the address information.
If you don't use Gmail, or have multiple email addresses that AREN'T automatically polled by your Gmail account, I'd agree that HTC Mail is nice. But for me it takes away too many of the nice Gmail features that I use. My $.02
jdoo said:
If you set up your gmail account as an exchange account using m.google.com you can get push by changing your check frequency to "as arrive".
The issue I'm having is that the HTC Mail application wont open any attachments from my gmail account set up through exchange. I just get a message "The file cannot be opened because it is corrupted."
If I open with the gmail application it works fine
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This doesn't push. It pulls. If you look closely you will see a refresh icon flash in your notification bar every 5 seconds. Extreme battery usage.
As far as opening up your attachments, set it for Imap. Its the only way I got it to work for attachments.
Solomente said:
As a regular Gmail user, I find the Android Gmail app is superior to the HTC mail app. It gives me the same features I have when using a computer... like marking a star on a conversation, viewing different labels, and since I have multiple email addresses that my Gmail account polls, the Gmail app lets me see which of my email addresses was the recipient. It's right there in the label on the email list, without having to open each mail and look at the address information.
If you don't use Gmail, or have multiple email addresses that AREN'T automatically polled by your Gmail account, I'd agree that HTC Mail is nice. But for me it takes away too many of the nice Gmail features that I use. My $.02
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Expect copy and paste from it, which I use a lot.
i like gmail app, because there is a delete button haha
htc one need to hit menu and hit delete.
Gmail...
I found using the Gmail app and the HTC Mail separately, I was killing my battery faster.
What I ended up doing, was having GMail PULL my pop mail, and then I'd just pull it all through the gmail app. Helped my battery life a great deal.
Pro's - Everything in one place, Easy batch delete
Con's - I have to TELL it to load the entire message (Show Picture). In HTC I didn't have to do that.
Other than that, I'm happy to have everything centralized.
I'm using a simple HTC mail windget (1x1), and I have the email account set to check for mail every 30 minutes. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
The mail is sure checked when the phone is on or when I go into the mail program manually, but when the phone is off, regardless of whether the mail program is running in the background - it's intermittent.
The only difference from stock settings - 3G mobile data is not always on.
On nexus one, this works just fine.
Oh yeah, this is for pop3 and hotmail accounts.
Oh yeah, and I tried k9, but it was superbuggy - creating phantom emails, then deleting some of my hotmail emails etc.
Any clues on how to trick the phone to check emails regularly on schedule?
K-9 is really giving me a lot of grief with "no subject" problems (though it checks mails properly like clockwork).
So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/
I don't think there is man. Google has developed a hybrid type active sync for pushing email to the Gmail app. This is one of the benefits of using a Android phone if you use Gmail. When it comes to other email apps/clients, Gmail will push using IMAP. My buddy who has a iPhone uses Google Sync and is jealous of how fast I receive my email. He actually got mad at Google for not using the same technology in Google Sync. That's just one of the benefits of using Android with the Gmail app. It gets you the fastest email outside of using Exchange or Active Sync.
Can't you just continue to use the Gmail app for your primary account and the Samsung email app for your secondary account? I have both of my Gmail accounts paired with the Gmail app and my Verizon and Work email synced with the Samsung app. I don't really need instant email on my secondary accounts. If you need yours to be instant then why don't you just forward all of your mail from your secondary account to your Gmail account.
Jon C said:
So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/
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No its not possible, exchange and Gmail (through Gmail client) are Push, other are not.
Well, my secondary account technically is a GMail account. My school has edu accounts through GMail, so the address ends in 'go.schoolname.edu'. Because of this, GMail has issues syncing that account (even though it is a Google Mail account).
Lame. :/
Oh well. Thanks, guys.
Download K9-Mail from the market. I have 2 outlook work emails & gmail all in K-9.
Best of all it's free.
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You can have two accounts linked on the Gmail app. Press menu and then add accounts.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
K-9 mail was able to do "instant" push via IMAP for me, but it really slowed my phone down. Try K-9 and if you find it slows your phone down too, try out MailDroid.
MailDroid doesn't slow my phone down at all and seems to do IMAP push well, but its a but light on features and polish.
You can import up to five other email accounts into your main gmail account. That way you only have to use the gmail servers for all your mail. I have all my pop mail linked to my gmail account and I get all my mail instantly. You can then label each account with a different color and filter them.
Sent from my Vibrant using XDA app facing north...no, wait. southwest.
I've setup all my gmail accounts in my phone(3 gmail). And if you have other email accounts such as aol, hotmail etc you can add those account on one of your gmail (login to the web) and have gmail fetch all those emails that way you have push email on those account
I really like the new email interface that comes with the Xoom as well as the new and similar Gmail app interface. However, I also have a non-Gmail account that supports imap push which does not appear to be supported in the new stock email app. To get push email from that account, I am using K-9 which works well with push, however, I much prefer the new stock email interface. My question is, am I missing a setting on the stock email app for push (it is set up as an imap account), or, if not, what is the limitation or reasoning to not have included push in this app?
As a side comment, I did try forwarding all of my non-Gmail email to my Gmail account so I would receive it on the Xoom via push. This worked fine for about a week at which time, I as well as everyone that had sent or been copied on these emails started being flooded with notices that delivery of the email had been delayed (although it had actually been received) but attempts would be made to resend this email for the next few days. With each attempt to resend another notice would be received. My and everyone else's mailboxes were being over-filled with these notices so I stopped forwarding to Gmail and in about three days, at the end of the attempt to resend time period, these notices stopped. The account I was forwarding from was an Apple account (.me). I don't really believe in conspiracy theories but this one has me wondering!
wayne710 said:
I really like the new email interface that comes with the Xoom as well as the new and similar Gmail app interface. However, I also have a non-Gmail account that supports imap push which does not appear to be supported in the new stock email app. To get push email from that account, I am using K-9 which works well with push, however, I much prefer the new stock email interface. My question is, am I missing a setting on the stock email app for push (it is set up as an imap account), or, if not, what is the limitation or reasoning to not have included push in this app?
As a side comment, I did try forwarding all of my non-Gmail email to my Gmail account so I would receive it on the Xoom via push. This worked fine for about a week at which time, I as well as everyone that had sent or been copied on these emails started being flooded with notices that delivery of the email had been delayed (although it had actually been received) but attempts would be made to resend this email for the next few days. With each attempt to resend another notice would be received. My and everyone else's mailboxes were being over-filled with these notices so I stopped forwarding to Gmail and in about three days, at the end of the attempt to resend time period, these notices stopped. The account I was forwarding from was an Apple account (.me). I don't really believe in conspiracy theories but this one has me wondering!
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I have an IMAP account. When you are setting it up at the end it asks for refresh interval. I put that to never and it seems to push my email just fine.
under apps at the top right there are two email clients, gmail and email. Anything other than gmail gets loaded into email and is viewed in there. There are also two seperate widgets both of which I have on page 1.
Inphinitizeit said:
I have an IMAP account. When you are setting it up at the end it asks for refresh interval. I put that to never and it seems to push my email just fine.
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That is interesting as when I tell the regular email client, set up as an imap account, to "Never" check, it does just that....it never checks. I have to go into the app and manually refresh it to get any email. On the Gmail client, a time selection is not available as it is set to sync automatically with your gmail account.
wayne710 said:
That is interesting as when I tell the regular email client, set up as an imap account, to "Never" check, it does just that....it never checks. I have to go into the app and manually refresh it to get any email. On the Gmail client, a time selection is not available as it is set to sync automatically with your gmail account.
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Hey, that's not me. LIES
Spawn026 said:
Hey, that's not me. LIES
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Sorry about that Spawn! I figured out what I did and won't let it happen again!
I, too, do not find that the "never" setting works. I notice on the Exchange seetings there are extra fields to syn with server. IMAP seems to have left those choices out.