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Thumbs up from the Engadget guys...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-review-international-edition/
Confirms my thoughts also.
This is the best tablet out right now.
yes its the best!
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Thankso for posting, I understand quadrant doesn't mean much but I'm wonderinf why its only getting that amount while my note gets 4800.
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Thankso for posting, I understand quadrant doesn't mean much but I'm wonderinf why its only getting that amount while my note gets 4800.
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that seems above average for a Note, iirc
Really? I ran quadrant again I got 4700+ so idk, how much is the supposed to be avg?
avg is 3300-3700
doesn't matter though ... i'm sure the 7.7 is pretty snappy with a different launcher...
for most things you'll be doing, you wouldn't see significant delay
Thats my result
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I agree that is the best tablet at the moment.
But I then don't understand, why Samsung doesn't ship any to Europe?
Why don't they push it into the markets?
It is so hard to find one.
Or will the situation change in some weeks?
I read that one retailer awaits the tablets on 17th February and a case maker will start shipping the cases on 17th February too.
Good review. I bit too friendly on touchwiz, but it's okay.
It seems that the screen sets it apart from other devices, I wonder even if ANY devices 7" or bigger will show up in 2012/2013q1 with SAmoled+
Read the review earlier on. Agree with all but Touchwiz.
Available at Expansys for a whooping 600€ (ouch!)
630€ on demand for the 3G version.
I guess I'll better wait
Great review, are people really getting the stated battery life (12+ hours) of display time?? If so, I just might need to replace my Note with this. Lucky to get 3.5 hours of display time on my Note.
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Great review, are people really getting the stated battery life (12+ hours) of display time?? If so, I just might need to replace my Note with this. Lucky to get 3.5 hours of display time on my Note.
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you're doing something wrong then lol
Yes, the battery life claims are thankfully not exaggerated, it's an amazing device and yet so thin!
The battery life really caught me, Im no longer happy with the 9hrs of screen time on the note but the 12hrs on the tab should extend my usage for a while!
Yeah. I loved the review. SO glad I have this tablet!
hmm I always get around 4000 for my quadrant scores as well so i emailed Dana Wollman, the reviewer, and she said she reliably got the score she put in the review and unfortunately they have already given the tab back to negri. It is strange, I wonder what was causing engadget's tablet to do that.
Well it only proves that quadrant is not reliable.
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Well it only proves that quadrant is not reliable.
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because quadrant is build for gingerbread
Even with new kernels and software upgrades? They're at least supposed to be even but instead the nexus 4 lacks battery and processing power in nearly every test. Is this still the case and if so, why?
I've read that the battery in the Nexus 4 lasts longer and search a term called "thermal throttling"
BTW, benchmarks arent worth ****
if your talking about Quadrant .. it is NOT thermal throttling.. it doesn't throttle within 30 seconds, the only test my Nexus has throttled with was glbenchmark , and that was with everything ticked..
Tweaked kernels and hacks (like undervolting) adress some issues for sure ! Less heat/throttling and even some battery gain. But i'm pretty sure the Optimus G is still ahead in perfs AND battery, without even consider its own tweaked kernels. (-> I own a Nexus 4, but i have only tested the G with everything stock)
I guess the question is about the price you are ready to pay, and where you stand considering system updates or modified user experience. Besides that, the Optimus G just is a better device. Both are equally smooth in every day use though ...
lol if youre basing which phone is "better" off of quadrant scores, you need to reevaluate what youre looking for in a phone. High quadrant scores don't always translate to a smooth, fluid, enjoyable user experience. The nexus 4 is lightyears ahead of the optimus G in terms of user experience.
Guys, I know that benchmarks don't say too much about daily use. But still. Those two devices are almost EXACTLY the same. What part of the nexus 4 did google **** up so badly that the optimus g comes out ahead in almost everything?
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Guys, I know that benchmarks don't say too much about daily use. But still. Those two devices are almost EXACTLY the same. What part of the nexus 4 did google **** up so badly that the optimus g comes out ahead in almost everything?
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Android 4.2 is not optimized for quadrant. Real world performance use debunks it. Nexus 4 is a smooth and enjoyable experience. Why are you putting so much in quadrant scores?
How would it be worse? Troll post
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How would it be worse? Troll post
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Seriously:good:
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Guys, I know that benchmarks don't say too much about daily use. But still. Those two devices are almost EXACTLY the same. What part of the nexus 4 did google **** up so badly that the optimus g comes out ahead in almost everything?
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I think you need to worry about your own phone SGS II
Optimus G has Android 4.04
Nexus 4 has Android 4.2.1
That is a much bigger deal then overaggressive thermal throttling which will be fixed eventually. Also as someone coming from the LG P999, I wouldn't want to depend on LG for any software updates again. It will get its planned update to 4.1.1 but after that I wouldn't count on anything.
I don't know what the OG is getting for battery but I've been getting over 5hrs screen on time lately which is pretty good.
I'm think LG is tampering with it's products - you would think that phones with supposedly similar hardware would perform accordingly. After all the N4 is running pure android and most folks would of given the edge to the N4. The truth is out there somewhere just saying
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Even with new kernels and software upgrades? They're at least supposed to be even but instead the nexus 4 lacks battery and processing power in nearly every test. Is this still the case and if so, why?
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I'm think LG is tampering with it's products - you would think that phones with supposedly similar hardware would perform accordingly. After all the N4 is running pure android and most folks would of given the edge to the N4. The truth is out there somewhere just saying
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You know, every single stuff *put company name here* put out, they tweak the heck out of their stuff to have high benchmark score.
Heard that new Apple GPU is 4x faster than newest Android GPU, or newest Android CPU is twice as fast as newest Apple CPU? So now you know what I meant.
@ zephik & yyz
Accusing me of trollposting... How about you read every single ****ing test that is out there? All of them say that the optimus g is miles ahead of the nexus 4 hardwarewise.
@ Kyra of Fire
Apple's gotta be doing something right. Their stupid phone lasts twice as long as the nexus 4 even though it has a much higher display brightness and a smaller battery. Oh and before anybody comes up with "Blabla but nex4 has more cores, they need more energy." Yea right, I don't know how many cores you think your phone uses on webbrosing but it won't be more than 1 or maximum 2, so not more than the iphone's got.
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/lg-nexus-4-battery-life-tips/1009720/
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GSMArena put it to the test and found that when it came to talk time tests four of the 1.5GHz Krait core remained idle and the battery did well with 14:17 hours. However it was 1 hour short of the Optimus G, which the LG Nexus 4 is based on.
In regards to the web browsing test on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, this was the worst ever seen. The LG Nexus 4 therefore didn’t have to do too much to beat it. It went on for 4 hours and 34 minutes on just one charge. If you look at the larger picture however this is still a poor score when you consider that the iPhone 5 was two times as long.
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LG's engineers sneaked a puppy in while they designed the Optimus G (didn't happen with the Nexus 4)
Apple engineers, meanwhile, drank a tank of steroid.
That's why.
Nexus 4 is far better than optimus g
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To each their own... Played with an OG in person... it's nice... But not for me. I like being able to do with what I please to my phone. Hence I got the N4. As far as battery. I'm a heavy user and with my current setup I was able to steam using tunein for over 6hours during my work shift.. Kaokao all day... Full sync... Gnow enabled.... Not crippling my phone or turning off data syncs...left my 10hr work shift and was just under 40%...not bad in my book
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You know, every single stuff *put company name here* put out, they tweak the heck out of their stuff to have high benchmark score.
Heard that new Apple GPU is 4x faster than newest Android GPU, or newest Android CPU is twice as fast as newest Apple CPU? So now you know what I meant.
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The A6 does use a very beefy GPU. Apple has tended to do this for quite awhile now. The iPad 3rd generation and 4th generation are notably unmatched. This is not due to benchmark tweaks, they just source better chips for their products.
LG doctored our s4-quads :{
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The A6 does use a very beefy GPU. Apple has tended to do this for quite awhile now. The iPad 3rd generation and 4th generation are notably unmatched. This is not due to benchmark tweaks, they just source better chips for their products.
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^ this is just argument for the sake of argument.....
If you don't want Apple, then insert Nvidia, AT&T, T Mobile, Samsung, or WalMart, or US Department of Defense, or whatever.
Every of them have a nice chart showing how their stuff is better than someone else's stuff. Regardless of wether it is true, false or somewhere in between.
The point is, benchmark tells nothing. Yet, the company will have fancy bechmark to market their product becuase people like you guys love it.
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Dude get a grip. Do you have a nexus 4 or not? I have one and it performs considerably well. And i was coming from a galaxy nexus. All your doing is whining about benchmarks which is irrelevant due to different software. Again 4.2 is not optimized yet!
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Had the note 3 since Friday coming from the note 2. Was a little surprised by the quadrant results. Are they right or is it a bug?
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No they are right
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So for the people who already received the Note 3:
How long did you charge it before you started playing with it? I think that's gonna be the longest wait of my life... lol
Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.
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So for the people who already received the Note 3:
How long did you charge it before you started playing with it? I think that's gonna be the longest wait of my life... lol
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It's really not necessary with LiPo batteries. Mine came with 50% charge, just use it.
^^ Just use it. Plus, you can always plug it in and use it at the same time! Enjoy!
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It's really not necessary with LiPo batteries. Mine came with 50% charge, just use it.
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guess its been a minute since I've had a new phone lol. I remember having to charge it for "X" amount of time so the battery's memory was started correctly
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So for the people who already received the Note 3:
How long did you charge it before you started playing with it? I think that's gonna be the longest wait of my life... lol
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The battery had around 50% so I was able to get started right away.
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Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.
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LMAO... Thinking the same thing, I can care less about that I want to know if it feels faster than the note 2.
looks right ran quadrant on the demo unit at AT&T last night and ran 21k twice.
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Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.
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It helps you determine if you should even bother installing and configuring more processor intensive apps
Yeah it does seem high though.
As for the battery I also had 50% charge ran it right down until it switched it's self off then full charge overnight.
As for how it feels. I am coming from the note 2 and the whole experience feels different the phone is so snappy no lag what so ever. It feels like I am holding the s2 with the weight and dimensions.
I run a custom app for my work doing test sheets exporting data from laptop to this and vis versa, it runs seamlessly where as it was really slow on the note 2.
The only thing that bugs me so far is that there are no official cases out yet.
Let's just hope it keeps running as strong.
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Who cares?
Does it seem faster to you? Does it perform better for what you do?
That's what matters not all of these retarded benchmarks, I can't believe there are so many different benchmark apps and everyone gets so worked up.over them.
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Exactly. When I read the title of the thread I was expecting OP to tell us how blown away he was by the performance, come to find out its stupid idiotic annoying benchmarks.
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I have bad news for you. The machine is quite fast but Samsung cheated on the benchmarks. Read this link: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/
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I have bad news for you. The machine is quite fast but Samsung cheated on the benchmarks. Read this link: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/
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If the device is fast then that's all that matters. Benchmarks are for those who want to measure their tiny wieners.
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Lol
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Exactly. When I read the title of the thread I was expecting OP to tell us how blown away he was by the performance, come to find out its stupid idiotic annoying benchmarks.
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I am blown away from the performance. But like the statement says I don't think the results jump in the "idiotic annoying benchmarks" is true to the out right performance from the note 2. Which I guess is now explained in other threads with the manipulation of benchmarks.
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Samsung always cheat on quadrant scores and its due to all the sites that obsess about them I just go on personal opinion if it feels faster and performs better I couldn't care less I have never even downloaded quadrant as its a load of balls if you want to see how good your device is fire up loads of apps do some multitasking or play a game like modern combat 4
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guess its been a minute since I've had a new phone lol. I remember having to charge it for "X" amount of time so the battery's memory was started correctly
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That was the case with NiCad batteries. That doesn't need to be done for lithium batteries. Nevertheless, store reps never fail to recite that procedure whenever a customer buys a new phone. I just nodded my head and went on my way when I picked up the S4. I'll probably get the same spiel when I pick up my N3 tomorrow... err later today.
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That was the case with NiCad batteries. That doesn't need to be done for lithium batteries. Nevertheless, store reps never fail to recite that procedure whenever a customer buys a new phone. I just nodded my head and went on my way when I picked up the S4. I'll probably get the same spiel when I pick up my N3 tomorrow... err later today.
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Cool, thanks for the info Albaholic :highfive:. I'm surprised I didn't find this out sooner.
Hi all
I have two Samung S4's Both i9505, both same chips/processors/roms/kernels/everything (both are BTU devices and running Android stock 4.3)
Only the colour is different.
However,,,,, there is huge differences in Benchmarks on Antutu
I can see 29000- 29500 on the one S4... but only 25000-26500 on the other.
I thought maybe it was an issue on apps installed/etc... so I did a hard reset/wipe and only have antutu installed on each one.
This is not right... can anyone shed any light?
I've checked and CPU-Z reports everything identical
Maybe if people test...and post their results and Firmware/software versions.
I will edit and post screenshots of mine shortly.
Benchmarks are a waste of time and irrelevant to the daily usage of your phone
Does your phone work? Job done then...
And questions go in q&a not general
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Benchmarks are a waste of time and irrelevant to the daily usage of your phone
Does your phone work? Job done then...
And questions go in q&a not general
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It does work.. but when everything is the same... there should not be this huge difference between two identical phones.
One is performing very fast...and one very slow.
This is not "ok" as with the production quality in Samsung...this huge difference is not normal.
You'll never get anywhere with benchmarks...as I said they are a waste of time and not a true representation of your phone
You could be getting a false report...how would you know? You wouldn't...it could be a defective unit and your benchmark app won't tell you that
Ignore benchmarks and don't waste your time...if it really bothers you, send the slower one back.
That's why I say that benchmarks are stupid. I only do some to see if the performance of my device fell or to compare two different Android versions, but I don't use to compare one device to another, no matter if it is the same. BTW are you sure it's not a Galaxy S4 and a S4 LTE +? The second one normal score is usually 29k, while the first is 25-26k.
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That's why I say that benchmarks are stupid. I only do some to see if the performance of my device fell or to compare two different Android versions, but I don't use to compare one device to another, no matter if it is the same. BTW are you sure it's not a Galaxy S4 and a S4 LTE +? The second one normal score is usually 29k, while the first is 25-26k.
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Hi
Yes.. They are both def 9505 and not a 9506
They are both snapdragon 600s.. and checked via CPU-Z and everything is the same
But.. after 4.3 update... (genuine OTA update not flashed via odin)... It is running 29000+ (it was 27000 before on 4.2.2 stock and the slow one was 24000 on same 4.2.2 stock)
I just wanted to know.. why there was such a huge difference. I totally understand devices differ slightly for no apparent reason.. and anything within 500-1000 mark..is fine (on two identical devices with same apps...and same config...same services/wifi/bluetooth etc enabled..)
There should not be such a vast difference of 2000+ between two identical devices.
Every CPU is made differently, that's why they have binning numbers. Some can handle higher clocks and some perform better under heat etc.
You really can't compare 2 i9505 because you think they are identical, inside they are not. The one that performs slower could have a lower binning and is throttling sooner. Simple as that.
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Every CPU is made differently, that's why they have binning numbers. Some can handle higher clocks and some perform better under heat etc.
You really can't compare 2 i9505 because you think they are identical, inside they are not. The one that performs slower could have a lower binning and is throttling sooner. Simple as that.
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Thanks.. .I just didn't expect one to be running at 24000 and one at 29500
That to me... is not "normal" differences with batches/production
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Thanks.. .I just didn't expect one to be running at 24000 and one at 29500
That to me... is not "normal" differences with batches/production
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I have had differences of 3k on the SAME device in Antutu mate so I really wouldn't much into it.
I can't actually even finish Antutu on my device at the moment lol, it gets to 87% then FC and I get a score of 20k so you're lucky!!
Benchmarks don't mean anything. If both your phones feel fine to use then they're fine
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I have had differences of 3k on the SAME device in Antutu mate so I really wouldn't much into it.
I can't actually even finish Antutu on my device at the moment lol, it gets to 87% then FC and I get a score of 20k so you're lucky!!
Benchmarks don't mean anything. If both your phones feel fine to use then they're fine
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Haha! The same already happened to me... I'm now running a benchmark every night to see if score changes too much, and mine is running more or less in 27k, but one day it got 24k lol. So I did other test and scored normally again. Worry nothing my dear @OP, like he already said if the devices are running OK there's no need to use a benchmark. Also, remember that they make small changes from a production series to another! My Nexus 10 has almost zero lightbleed, while many people complain of a big light bleed.
Hope this helps you a little... Probably you got 2 different production series.
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Haha! The same already happened to me... I'm now running a benchmark every night to see if score changes too much, and mine is running more or less in 27k, but one day it got 24k lol. So I did other test and scored normally again. Worry nothing my dear @OP, like he already said if the devices are running OK there's no need to use a benchmark. Also, remember that they make small changes from a production series to another! My Nexus 10 has almost zero lightbleed, while many people complain of a big light bleed.
Hope this helps you a little... Probably you got 2 different production series.
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Agreed. They are both working ok... and compared.. the z1 trounces them for speed... but I just like the way the phone works on the s4.. I think I will hunt down a i9506... (but then... not sure how much rom support will exist for this compared to the ones for 9505)
Thanks all of you though... I guess we are settled on "it is what it is"
I've got a truly scientific meathod for properly compairing 2 devices for you to try, take the average of 10 tests per device then see if their really is a difference between scores.
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Intradevice comparion on benchmarks are utterly useless.
They only serve meaning when comparing with other devices or same device with different system configurations
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Hi all
I have two Samung S4's Both i9505, both same chips/processors/roms/kernels/everything (both are BTU devices and running Android stock 4.3)
Only the colour is different.
However,,,,, there is huge differences in Benchmarks on Antutu
I can see 29000- 29500 on the one S4... but only 25000-26500 on the other.
I thought maybe it was an issue on apps installed/etc... so I did a hard reset/wipe and only have antutu installed on each one.
This is not right... can anyone shed any light?
I've checked and CPU-Z reports everything identical
Maybe if people test...and post their results and Firmware/software versions.
I will edit and post screenshots of mine shortly.
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Hi, sorry for the necro-posting but recently I got this exact same issue as well. Two GT-i9505 Samsung S4 devices, different Antutu scores. One device is the regular S4 (white), the other one is the LTE Black Edition:
- White Samsung S4 / Lollipop 5.0.1 / Antutu 5.7.1 ~ 29000/30000 score
After unboxing the Black:
- Black LTE Samsung S4 / KitKat 4.4.2 /Antutu 5.7.1 >> ~ 29000 score
After upgrading the Black to Lollipop 5.0.1:
- Black LTE Samsung S4 / Lollipop 5.0.1 /Antutu 5.7.1 >> ~ 25000 score
After upgrading to Lollipop on the Black, the Antutu scores dropped - reboot, power off, no changes in the score.
Uninstalled Antutu > Rebooted > Installed Antutu >> 30075, 31882 + score
As someone else stated across the thread, in my case maybe the LTE version is slightly different than the regular version - still, after getting these numbers from my experiment, as many also said across the thread - it doesn't matter what the benchmarks say, they seem to behave like glorified randomizers when it comes com computing the final scores.
If it handles properly, then it's ok...!
Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
Benchmarks mean nothing, the phone runs fine and quickly, games play fine at good frame rates, so its pointless doing this.
Transferring heat away from a components thats designed to handle it to a component that isnt is a bad idea. You may not think the screen is getting heated, but there a layers of very insulating glass between you and the LCD, you wont be aware just how warm it is. Heat affects LCDs, in time you might end up with a dark spot where the CPU is.
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Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
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What exactly is the "bang for your buck" that you require? What does the G2 not do for you that the Note 3 or Z1 does that is so crucial to daily life?
Because if it is just benchmarks, then as mentioned above, they mean nothing.
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Guys, look at this
This is pathetic results for SD800. And the reason of so low bench results is absence of thermal pad on the SoC.
This was the case with first Nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652, the same is with Nexus 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...de-nexus-5s-throttling-solved-adding-t2627714 and the same goes to LGG2.
I mean, when I spend $600+ for expensive phone I want it perform better than competitors' ones, I mean Xperia Z1, Note 3, Xperia Z Ultra. I what my bang for the buck
What do you think? Would you buy G Pro 2 or LG G3 if they will lack thermal grease too?
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not long ago the g2 rocked the benchmarks mwahhaha so there with your thermal grease
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not long ago the g2 rocked the benchmarks mwahhaha so there with your thermal grease
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the kk update killed the bench score, i think mine dropped like 10k.
Benchmarks are the worse thing to ever happen to android. You would think that the moto x with its "out of date" specs still running smoother then the s5 would prove once and for all that benchmark scores are pointless. I don't care if the note 3 or s5 put up record breaking omg wtf fml scores...it still lags and mine doesn't! Lol....
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To add to this.... lets say you bought 2 cars. Both cost the same, one car says 700 hp, 0-60 in 3 seconds. The second car has 300 hp, 0-60 in 6 seconds. But once you get on the road, the 300 hp drives better, feels faster in every way and gets much better gas mileage. There's what's on paper, and there's real life.
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bweN diorD said:
the kk update killed the bench score, i think mine dropped like 10k.
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but user experience increased a lot right? ui flluidness/ opening of apps?
mgolder said:
Benchmark d*ck swinging - The rankings equivalent of being the moron who still says 'FIRST' on a comments section
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lol, I dont mind good benchmarks, there just arent any on android that measure fluidness/real life snappyness.
First! after the guy who doesnt like firsts.
bachera said:
but user experience increased a lot right? ui flluidness/ opening of apps?
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i dont see it. my phone was snappy and fluid before the update, its the same now.
as for the benchmark comments. i agree to a degree that they dont mean a lot, but a 25-35% drop seems a bit extreme for an update.
seems like they boosted the benches to boost sales when it was new.
The fluidity and the battery are awesome. I love everything on that phone. Even if LG doesn't keep it updated it will still be one great phone that i own/ed...
bodom_hc said:
Its pathetic you ACTUALLY care about benchmarks, lol.
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I don't care bout benches, I care about what I paid for, and I use, as everyone else does, benches to prove that my item works as intended. Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas? when phone overheats and process too long, longer than it must? It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? Everybody did. Maybe it partly is because of early frequency drop, maybe not so.
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
Billy Madison said:
I don't care bout benches, I care about what I paid for, and I use, as everyone else does, benches to prove that my item works as intended. Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas? when phone overheats and process too long, longer than it must? It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? Everybody did. Maybe it partly is because of early frequency drop, maybe not so.
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
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But you didn't pay for a device that guarantees you any particular score in artificially inflated benchmark tests though. No manufacturer will launch a device guaranteeing someone a set score all the time. So what is it that you think you should have that you haven't got now? I thin that is what we can't understand.
mgolder said:
But you didn't pay for a device that guarantees you any particular score in artificially inflated benchmark tests though. No manufacturer will launch a device guaranteeing someone a set score all the time. So what is it that you think you should have that you haven't got now? I thin that is what we can't understand.
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Man, I want it to not lag earlyer than do another smartphones. Did you hear of lags when playing Spiderman 2? I've heard that G2 is not capable of playing this recent new game smoothly, as device with SD800 should. OK I don't play Spiderman2 and did not by to play benchmarks, I only use benchmarks as examples that internally G2, Nexus 4, Nexus 5 do not constructed properly. And as I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299888 when I complained of improper color temperatures of G Pro LG reacted and made G2 display perfectly calibrated and on par with HTC One and iPhone 5S. So I think that in future G3 they'll do something with SoC cooling and improve performance when gaming for long time
Billy Madison said:
And not only I care for benchmarks, look there http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-jelly-bean-vs-kitkat-benchmark-battle/
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These things have nothing to do with benchmarks:
Did you hear about lags when doing spherical panoramas?Overheating can be many things, I have yet to find a phone that doesnt overheat sometimes. Usually a clean instal fixes this nicely. Its Android I guess and faulty install scenarios.
It's the same story. Did you hear about "slow focus" in G2? -> slow focus is the automatic focus, press on screen where you want focus and its almost instant. Google camera is pretty good. there are other settings that can tweak this.
That said, benchmarks in my opinion do nothing good for true user experience.
I do believe Android needs to step up on the user experience game as my comments above prove enough that this device, I say all android devices, need to much customization to be perfect. All these workarounds To fix these real issues that some users find anoying, not higher benchmarks are needed.
lol, and does kitkat score less in that? didnt see you post scores once with that nor found your arguments on it.Stop trolling yourself and post some proof then.
so my arguments from that standingpoint still hold.
I also couldnt find it featured on any major android website, wonder why.
the one benchmarktool I dont know, its only got 33 reviews, hardly antutu level. wonder if its representative.
This could be a benchmark that actually does measure some important stuff I am talking about. Interesting. thanks for sharing
omg the downloading is soo slow wow
ok ran the benchmark. but I am not impressed as it benchmarks with its own gui, not the actual phones gui. Also it doesnt benchmark the panorama shots or any camera shots for that matter.
I guess I wasnt wrong after all... sad was hoping big on this benchmarking tool to finally have a representative view of a gui from a user point of view.
People, so upsest with benchmarks, its not like its a gaming computer/server where you squeeze every bit of performance regardless of powerdraw etc, its a phone lol, and its smoother than before KitKat. Xperia Z is a good example of benchmarks vs sucking in real life ex horrible battery life....
bachera said:
ok ran the benchmark. but I am not impressed as it benchmarks with its own gui, not the actual phones gui. Also it doesnt benchmark the panorama shots or any camera shots for that matter.
I guess I wasnt wrong after all... sad was hoping big on this benchmarking tool to finally have a representative view of a gui from a user point of view.
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Well, from the user point of view you should your Gallery scroll, Zoom scroll, list scroll results. The gallery scroll is what fubar in LG's UI. It scores around 35-37FPS, right? But on the Nexus it scores 50-55 fps or near. All other scrolls on LG are pretty near 60 fps, so as on every other smartphone and all right with them. But gallery scroll is bad. Did you use Tapatalk ever? Have you noticed when you try to swipe from right to left to open next page the tapatalk just stagger, hangs for .5sec, and then completes the move? It shouldn't, scroll must be buttery as is in HTC phones
abhinav.tella said:
People, so upsest with benchmarks, its not like its a gaming computer/server where you squeeze every bit of performance regardless of powerdraw etc.
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Check my hwbot prime score it is 1688 and compare to Nexus 5 scores that has same MSM8974A packed in LG box. 2923 points. pretty 50% increase just because of software, huh. Or the next result , 3075
Billy Madison said:
Well, from the user point of view you should your Gallery scroll, Zoom scroll, list scroll results. The gallery scroll is what fubar in LG's UI. It scores around 35-37FPS, right? But on the Nexus it scores 50-55 fps or near. All other scrolls on LG are pretty near 60 fps, so as on every other smartphone and all right with them. But gallery scroll is bad. Did you use Tapatalk ever? Have you noticed when you try to swipe from right to left to open next page the tapatalk just stagger, hangs for .5sec, and then completes the move? It shouldn't, scroll must be buttery as is in HTC phones
Check my hwbot prime score it is 1688 and compare to Nexus 5 scores that has same MSM8974A packed in LG box. 2923 points. pretty 50% increase just because of software, huh. Or the next result , 3075
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OK, since you mentioned it I did that and got 2745 in HBOT Prime which is not too far off from the N5.
As for HTC I agree, since the One X days they have gone pretty far, they are probably best Android manufacturer at Battery/Performance optimization IMO, and Sony is the worst.
My HTC Butterfly (Int DNA) with 2000 mAh battery lasts longer than the Xperia Z (2330 mAh) per charge. Sony Exmor cameras in iPhone and Galaxy S4 perform better than the Z1. At least LG aren't like Sony.
abhinav.tella said:
OK, since you mentioned it I did that and got 2745 in HBOT Prime which is not too far off from the N5.
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So, well, at least it is for me to think over, is it something wrong with my unit or its just my latest ROM with knock code has bad optimization, and it will be improved in future. Or, maybe, my PVS of 3 has to do with too early heating of SoC than yours CPU. Maybe you have PVS of 0 or 1