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I'm getting the 3g model for Christmas but was worried at the lack of Dev support for the 3g model. Can you flash the normal roms and only use wifi or is it specific roms for specific devices?
Won't be the same without aokp or PA
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I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think they'll work on the 3g model.
If you look at the title or OP of the threads them they might say whether they'll work on the 3g model aswell as the WiFi model. I know some ROMs do give that info.
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If you are concerned about it go buy a wifi one... I share internet connection with my smartphone (whatever smartphone with 3g will work) and you can't notice the difference between 3g/wifi
The thought of eventually using it as a phone excites me though and I'm sure the devs will find a way
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Hey guys, got my nexus 4 a couple of days ago coming from a galaxy s3, and I notice that I never get h+ like I used to do on my s3,it only gets to H, and the Internet speed of course is slower than it I was on my s3, I'm spending time in the same places I spent before but the speed isn't quite as good, I asume it's because it's only getting Hspa but not hspa+, any idea of why is this happening? Thanks in advance
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What ROM are you on?
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Depending what ROM you're using. Certain ROMs cant distinguish the difference between H and H+ on the status bar. However, you can manually check via Settings -> About Phone for HSPA+.
I'm using the stock rom, not rooted, I checked and it says HSPA:10 never days HSPA+
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The Nexus 4 is a HSDPA+42 device so you should get similar speeds as the S3 or even better with the Nexus 4 (unless you are talking about the LTE variant on a LTE network ). I don't think the S3 in general EVER showed HSPA+ as those stock devices always showed "3G" or "4G" or "4GLTE"
What kinda difference as we talking here anyways? 10Mbps or 1Mbps? Somewhere in between?
When it's saying HSPA:10 that's only HSPA and when it's idling. When you are actively using data it will show HSPA+:15 which is HSPA+ (21Mbps or 42Mbps depending on your carrier).
The s3 was the international, I'm not from the us, and I haven't measured the speed but I feel that it takes longer to load stuff, and it never shows h+ on top, only H :s, maybe it has something to do with the band of the carrier?
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LRC1710 said:
The s3 was the international, I'm not from the us, and I haven't measured the speed but I feel that it takes longer to load stuff, and it never shows h+ on top, only H :s, maybe it has something to do with the band of the carrier?
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Like the guy above said, check manually in about phone>status to see if you're getting H+ (when you're doing something that needs internet). Also try doing a speed test with both phones and see if the results are the same or similar.
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Well I started downloading and app and it said HSPA+:15, but it's weird that it dent say it on top, either way I feel the speed is slower than it was on the s3, I will test it when I get home to see what's going on... But it is DEFINETELY not faster
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First let me say that I am a happy note 2 owner. With that said there is something about the Nexus and pure android that intreges me. Also the price range for an unlocked phone is very good. Anyways I just want to know is there anyone that switches between two phones and how has that been working out for them.
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I currently use Iphone 5 as primary and nexus 4 as secondary because I got the iphone 5 for free from work
i was switching from my GS2 to the N4 every other day....i just made the switch to N4....
the N4 for me was hardly ever crashing, true butter experience, had a really good weight and feel.
My GS2 was just too light and felt slippery....
The ROM experience was fun but going to stay stock on the N4 for now
I switch between my GS3 (US LTE version) and my N4. And when I carry both (keeping my S3 in my bag usually) I tether it to my n4 so my N4 can get LTE speeds
Yeah thats what I was think of doing. Like I said I love my note 2 but I am also a tech nut and ha e been resisting th urge to by a Nexus 4 for a couple of weeks lol.
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Do you use the carrier tether or did you root it?
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Alaris said:
Do you use the carrier tether or did you root it?
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I use the carrier tether since it's part of my data share plan.
I am usingagalaxy note 2 anda n 4 TTY he n4 gets to hot isscarry and low batery
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First let me say that I am a happy note 2 owner. With that said there is something about the Nexus and pure android that intreges me. Also the price range for an unlocked phone is very good. Anyways I just want to know is there anyone that switches between two phones and how has that been working out for them.
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I bought the Nexus 4 as a secondary device, due to the price. I liked it so much, it became my primary device, which surprised me. I tried switching back to one of my other devices, but I'm drawn back to the Nexus 4 every time.
Just out of curiosity what was the other device?
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I use a note 2 for my primary personal on Verizon and an N4 for work on AT&T, best of both worlds. then come home to my N10
HI, the three network in the UK is rolling out 4G this weekend, what rom do I need to flash my nexus 4 with to get it working ???!!....I wan't super fast lol !!!!!!!
I think it's only starting in like 3/4 cities if your lucky enough to live in one of the cities. Also nexus 4 only supports one band on 4g if your also lucky enough for three to be using the supported band.
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HI, the three network in the UK is rolling out 4G this weekend, what rom do I need to flash my nexus 4 with to get it working ???!!....I wan't super fast lol !!!!!!!
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itll work on the n4 only if its band 4 lte, and no other frequency for lte. and its not about flashing a rom, its about flashing a hybrid radi, having the right apn, and changing the phine info to lte/gsm. there are threads that explain how to do it.
Yes I live in London.....but since updating to the latest 4.3 I can no longer select 4g LTE in the service menu. How would I find out if three is using the correct band !????
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Yes I live in London.....but since updating to the latest 4.3 I can no longer select 4g LTE in the service menu. How would I find out if three is using the correct band !????
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for 4.3 the option is in the phone menu, . and you need to ask them what band they are using.
Yes but if I select LTE it just goes back to CDMA ....!? Goes anyone know the three 4G APN details !? What band goes it need to be to work !??? Sorry for all the questions lol
What frequency can the Nexis 4 pick up on Hybrid Radio?
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What frequency can the Nexis 4 pick up on Hybrid Radio?
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band 4 for lte only. the hybrid radio lets you use lte if band 4 is available.
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band 4 for lte only. the hybrid radio lets you use lte if band 4 is available.
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Do you know the frequency ? 1800mhz ?
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onisuk said:
Yes but if I select LTE it just goes back to CDMA ....!? Goes anyone know the three 4G APN details !? What band goes it need to be to work !??? Sorry for all the questions lol
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it goes back because you need to use either the .27 hybrid radio or the .33 hybrid radio. google disabled lte for 4.3, and you cant enable lte in the settings unless you are using one of the hybrid radios.
After a quick search its 800mhz band is that ok !??
So it won't pick up Three mobiles 4G
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After a quick search its 800mhz band is that ok !??
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again.. band 4 for lte only.
Anyway it doesn't really matter the 4G chip in our phones doesn't work 100% apparently causes huge battery drain etc
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Anyway it doesn't really matter the 4G chip in our phones doesn't work 100% apparently causes huge battery drain etc
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nice rationalization, but not true. the chip works great, everything works. and since switching over to lte permanently, ive been seeing 6-7 hours screen on time regularly. imagine this, when you download things it takes time for it to finish downloading, especially large files. the slower data speed, the longer it takes. the longer it takes, the more battery is wasted. on lte, i average about 30mbps download speed, so downloads finish in seconds. so less battery is wasted. i download 2gb games from the play store in about 13-18 minutes. the newer lte chips are much better on battety than the old days, better than hspa+, hspa, 3g, and 2g.
How can that be possible ? The LTE chip in the nexus 4 has no antenna or amplifier :/ hmm I'm baffled
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ryanraven said:
How can that be possible ? The LTE chip in the nexus 4 has no antenna or amplifier :/ hmm I'm baffled
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doesnt need it? whatever it is, you dont hear complaints from lte users here in the states(mostly tmobile) about data signal or data speed for sure. and about battery.
Looks like I'm gonna have to get a nexus 5 then !!! Dam !!!
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Anyway it doesn't really matter the 4G chip in our phones doesn't work 100% apparently causes huge battery drain etc
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Battery life is the same with LTE enabled. My N4 has it enabled my wife hasn't let me to it to her's yet and our battery life is the same, but my data is much faster than her's. I get LTE signal with my N4 in the same places as I do with my Galaxy Tab 2. So I would say it works perfectly fine. Yes I am on T-mobile in case anyone was wondering.
3 UK is going to use LTE band 3 and 20 only, so the nexus 4 will not support it (unless Google is going to release a Nexus 4 LTe version, which is pointless because you should get the Nexus 5 anyway.)
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How can that be possible ? The LTE chip in the nexus 4 has no antenna or amplifier :/ hmm I'm baffled
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Many people are using LTE on their Nexus 4 including me, it only work with LTE band 4.
So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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So has anyone found a solution to the bad reception and 4glte bouncing around to no service. I've read several forums so I'm not the only one . It just pisses me off that I paid full price and Verizon gives you the run around and wants to send you a certified replacement. What a joke. We are in desperate need of an update.
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I find it helps to turn on airplane mode then turn it off. Resetting the radios often helps it pick up 4g again.
We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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We shouldn't have to keep toggling just to maintain lte. I called Verizon the other day and they put in a ticket but I don't think much is going to come of it.
This phone's reception is much weaker than the droid DNA. In places I got steady 4g, it now goes back and forth from 3g.
The signal strength is like a good 10-20+dbs worse than the DNA in the same spots. (I'm pretty much only at work and home do nothing's changed except the phone).
Sometimes with this phone, it'll show connected to lte (1-2 bars on the icon) but I can't get anything to load. No websites, no rhapsody streaming, nothing. All apps time out trying to connect. But that might be just a specific area at work. Regardless, I'm sure that even at home, the signal strength is always over -100 when the DNA would regularly be sub -100
So annoying.
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Yes it is very annoying. Thanks for feedback. I still love the phone. For such a beast of a phone it should have 5 five bars all the time. Lol
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The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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The update did not fix my poor reception issues. Anyone else still having problems?
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The update made my phone snappier. As far as the signal , I think it might have helped a little bit. I know it doesn't sit there for a few seconds when calling someone. It used to take forever.
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Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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I just switched from my SGS3 to the new Note 3 and my reception is much better now.
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cam1pbell said:
Okay here's where I'm at now this phone is really pissing me off I've been stuck in 3G all day long. It bounces back and forth so when I get off work tonight I'm going to call Verizon and see what they can do.?
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The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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I think I'm going to sell my note 3 and buy the developer addition. Only problem is I paid full price. I'm willing to lose a couple hundred bucks for a good signal.
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The antennas in this phone blows it's no other way around it.
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garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.
I also had the gs3 . This phone by far kicks the gs3 butt. I will agree the gs3 signal is twice as good. My galaxy note 3 works awesome if I'm not at work or in my house. It is what it is.
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Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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cam1pbell said:
Well I switched modems. So hopefully my signal improves. MJE firmware rooted with MI9 modem
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Is MJE any better?
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garbage
If being better than the GS3 "blows" then okay.....
Not only is my cellular reception much better, my wifi reception is much better too. Good enough that in places that both didn't work before I now get at least usable 1x or one bar 3g/4g data.
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Is MJE any better?
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Every experience is different. I Have A DROID Bionic And I Use It For Work And I Constantly Notice The Bionic On 4G And The Note 3 On 3G. It's not all the time obviously but it's enough to be noticeable.
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Well so far no improvement. I'm going to let it settle for a few days before I change it back.
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I dunno. This phone gets all around better reception than my GS3 did. On MJE here.
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OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/
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OP, have you dropped your phone perhaps? I just read about the "LDS" technology they started using beginning with the Note 3 that integrates the antenna into the actual frame of the device. They say stress on the frame could cause the antenna itself inside to crack affecting signal.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/12/05/galaxy-s5-may-borrow-note-3-tech-slim/
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No I haven't dropped my phone. my phone is very well taken care of. After using the MI9 modem for a day I've had twice the battery life. At 14 hrs I had 51%battery with 5 hours of on screen time. Thanks for the feedback.
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I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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I don't think people in here realize different manufacturers phones get different reception. HTC and Moto phones will ALWAYS get better signal. Its a fact of life. Just because your note 3 is newer doesn't mean anything.
And if your still thinking of switching to Dev Edition for better signal, your in for a surprise..... That phone has the same radio hardware in it that the Note 3 you currently have does. Wouldn't waste the "couple hundred bucks" looking there for better signal.
PS - my Note 3 gets phenomenal signal. Not as good as my HTC One did (obviously) but better than all the other flagship phones Verizon has had in the last 2 yrs.
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You are correct sir I think I'm just doomed with the area I live in but MI9 modem did help my signal or mostly my battery life.
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