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Hello! I'm a current galaxy nexus user and I feel like I need an upgrade, and the only two devices that come across my mind are the Nexus 4 and the One X+ (international version and unlocked). At first I was, actually I still am Nexus obsessed, so the Nexus 4 always was my first option. But with all this shipping and availability trouble that is going on at the moment, plus the glass of the back thing, I started wondering if it is really worthy.
So, I need some advices and stuff like that so I can decide.
Attention:
My decision will be made regardless the common things, like: lack of LTE in the Nexus 4, price, Sense UI (I'm gonna use cyanogenmod on both devices, even if I have to wait a bit for the official CM 10.1 for the OX+, consider it) and I know the One X+ will probably be left alone by HTC in one year or more, but this won't be a problem because I'll most probably get a new phone in one year (not trying to sound like a bad ass, lol)
Thanks in advance! Let me know what you all think.
Get a n4, the shipping will supposedly be worked out by mid feb
trter10 said:
Get a n4, the shipping will supposedly be worked out by mid feb
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Well, the shipping issue isn't the reason of my doubt, because I'll probably buy it on Amazon as I won't be able to buy it later. I need to make a decision by the first week of february.
Never had an HTC phone before.. So I wont tell you that it's a crappy phone. The nexus now is different story. This is my second nexus device :good: And once you get a nexus you enjoy android more.. Well it's untouched and yes updates are timely I'm sure you know that!! To get your hands on one of these unless your willing to buy somewhere else it's a hassle!! But once you have it you''ll love it.. Now the Glass you ask about.. To be honest once you have a case you should be fine.. Kinda of annoying to baby this phone without a case... Believe me it's a gem.. IMO! Sure there are things ppl will say is missing Whatever..
Me I love this phone I'm constantly flashing stuff so this device is perfect for me:good: As mentioned before never owned or use a HTC phone.. Be happy with your purchase....
You could buy the at&t one x (not the +) for cheap and unlock it. They are going for $200 to $250 on ebay right now. I had the at&t one x and the one x+ at the same time and the one x was faster at everything. I was disappointed with the one x+ when I compared the 2 phones side by side. I sold the one x+ and bought the nexus 4. I know you want unlocked but the dual core s4 processor in the one x is faster than the tegra 3 at everything but the quadrant benchmark, but we all know benchmarks mean nothing. The development for the at&t one x is really good at the moment, it already has cm10.1. Just a suggestion.
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N4 does not have USB OTG, HTC One X does I believe. I'd have gone with an int'l HOX, but I got an N4 before Google did the old switcharoo on us.
I had an AT&T HOX (sold it for N4 because it didn't support T-Mobile well), and it felt like a great sturdy device. I liked the poly-carbonate back. It stands up a lot better to drops. My vote goes to HOX.
Go for the One X+ the little RAM will be annoying though but if you can get over that it should offer a good experience, I have a AT&T One X and Nexus 4 and personally think N4 is better but 64GB internal, better front and rear cameras, I find the speaker and sound quality better on N4 and custom ROMS are way better on N4 than One X and I think the screens are equally good not to mention you can tweak colors on N4, but LTE seems to be an issue for you, so One X+
Let me also N4 is better looking design wise, both are in cases but the clean look is beautiful
Software software!!!!!
It really depends upon your priorities. I got the N4 because it does everything that I want and is $350 whereas my cousin, for example, got the One X+ because he needs 64MB storage for music.
If you can't wait a month, then One X+ is the only solution. If you can, then you have to decide whether no LTE and 16MB of storage is a dealbreaker; if not, then the N4 should be the choice. You should also be aware of that the One X+ apparently has horrible battery life.
Htc sucks.
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One x is soo slow compared to n4.
Don't rule out the droid dna and the experia z.
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Well, the shipping issue isn't the reason of my doubt, because I'll probably buy it on Amazon as I won't be able to buy it later. I need to make a decision by the first week of february.
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They're cheaper on eBay!
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You could buy the at&t one x (not the +) for cheap and unlock it. They are going for $200 to $250 on ebay right now. I had the at&t one x and the one x+ at the same time and the one x was faster at everything. I was disappointed with the one x+ when I compared the 2 phones side by side. I sold the one x+ and bought the nexus 4. I know you want unlocked but the dual core s4 processor in the one x is faster than the tegra 3 at everything but the quadrant benchmark, but we all know benchmarks mean nothing. The development for the at&t one x is really good at the moment, it already has cm10.1. Just a suggestion.
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Interesting! I was also looking at the three (One X+, Nexus 4, and One X). I settled on the One X. A lot of what I found indicated that the One X outperformed the X+. Development is also significantly better right now. I was turned away from the Nexus 4 by the reported issues. It must not be that bad; it's always sold out on Google Play lol.
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One x is soo slow compared to n4.
Don't rule out the droid dna and the experia z.
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Nexus 4 must be blazing then.
I own both, the n4 & one x (international version) & I gotta say the n4 is way better than my one x. My main problem with HTC devices is how they lock them down. No s-off, bootloader unlock only. Plus you gotta fastboot flash your boot.img with every rom upgrade. Look at what htc is doing right now, removing all sites that offer RUU downloads for developers to build new roms on. It looks like HTC doesn't want anyone developing on there devices. Plus they hold on to there kernel source for 90 days so forget about having the latest greatest roms & kernels avalible. N4 on the other hand is great. snappy as hell, constant development, & always the latest sources & binaries avalible for developers to build upon.
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I own both, the n4 & one x (international version) & I gotta say the n4 is way better than my one x. My main problem with HTC devices is how they lock them down. No s-off, bootloader unlock only. Plus you gotta fastboot flash your boot.img with every rom upgrade. Look at what htc is doing right now, removing all sites that offer RUU downloads for developers to build new roms on. It looks like HTC doesn't want anyone developing on there devices. Plus they hold on to there kernel source for 90 days so forget about having the latest greatest roms & kernels avalible. N4 on the other hand is great. snappy as hell, constant development, & always the latest sources & binaries avalible for developers to build upon.
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As far as flashing the boot.img, download Flash Image GUI from the Google play store. This app will flash the boot.img for you without having to use fastboot. I used it all the time when I had my one x and never had any problems.
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As far as flashing the boot.img, download Flash Image GUI from the Google play store. This app will flash the boot.img for you without having to use fastboot. I used it all the time when I had my one x and never had any problems.
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You probably had the AT&T variant. On the international HOX the boot partition can only be flashed through fastboot
N4, hands down. I've had a lot of devices and this(n4) is soooooo badass.
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Nexus 4 defo. If you can get your hands on one. Would love to see Google / LG's 'planning' on this!
HTC have only made 2 truly great phones: HD2 and Nexus One. I had the sensation.. blerg that was an experience then 12 other models of the same phone came out that same week, and then they did the same with the 'One' series and I just lost the will to live (a tad dramatic I admit over a phone) and got an S2 then the N4..
N4 all the way. Unless Google do actually screw us all and release KLP on a new device. which would make me ever so slightly cross. But it doesn't take much..
I was torn between the same two phones, went for the Nexus 4 and I'm really happy with it. First android phone, iphone user before that.
I'd recommend using Faux kernel and app - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008222 - you can edit the colour/gamma settings... my only issue with the phone is the default gamma isn't great, whites have a hint of yellow.
Had an international one X and it wasn't a good experience, if you want to keep sense then one x off course, but if you ever think that you might want vanilla android or more openness then the nexus. The one X unfortunately was the last straw for me, you get the sense from the forum that generally everyone was fed up. Look at any new leak for a HTC phone and there so much negativity, these aren't fanboys, these are people like me who bought desires or sensations and are witnessing htc continually turn there back on them.
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Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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i will be selling N4 for S4 need LTE
Won't sell my Nexus 4 until I get my Nexus 5
I had an S3, and I've not totally given up on Samsung after all the fuss over sources for developers etc, not what I like to see. Very happy still with my Nexus 4, nothing to make me consider an 'upgrade' (and I normally always demand the latest and greatest).
As for your first question, it's really entirely down to opinion. If you don't want any of the newer hardware on the GS4 (i.e. 1080p screen, octa-core processor, 13MP camera etc.) then don't bother. I personally don't see it as worth it at all. I would never be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p screens, I can't conceive of any task in the foreseeable future which the S4 Pro won't be able to handle, I don't use my camera too much and I don't need the expandable storage. Your opinion may well differ, and at the end of the day you definitely won't be able to get a definitive answer to this as it's all down to opinion.
As for the second question, there's already a thread in the Q&A about this (in which the vast majority of people answered no).
The only way id sell my n4 is to maybe get a n5. The s4 didnt really impress me an all of its new features seem gimmicky
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Yes.
Why, so someone that wants and will enjoy the n4 will get it, and then you can get and use what you want as well..
I'm thinking I'll eventually sell mine to get an xphone, maybe.. For the meanwhile I'm enjoying it
hopefully n5 will be better so no..who the hell likes touchwiz anyways
All these new phones could make your tea and replace your loved one in the bedroom for all i care they are all more than double the price so they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
bagmar.rakesh said:
Been playing with my Nexus 4 since a few weeks now but the Galaxy S4 is looking very tempting, especially the display. Should I sell my N4 now and save the moolah to purchase the Galaxy S4?
I don't think I would be getting a better value later on. How many of you are planning to sell off the N4 for the samsung galaxy S4?
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That's like saying should I trade my playboy playmate girlfriend for some fat ugly chic? If that's what you're into then go for it.
Just remember your N4 will get the next version of Android and the features that will bring, your S4? Well you may have to wait a while to get version 5 of Android! Sure the S4 may have better specs but software is just as important as hardware!
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*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
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1. Battery has been great for me, better than sensation and mt4g.
2. Can be done with apps, I tuned mine based off of an oled, love the screen now
3. It does, users are using lte now
4. This was known prior to release
5. Also previously known prior to release
Expandable storage would make nexus an unfair competing device, Google must still cooperate with other manufacturers...
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personally i think that the SGS4 is a great phone BUT I don't see any reason for us (the moderate users) to take a leap for it and thats why:
the nexus 4 is amazingly fast, battery is just fine and if u need more than that get a portable charger, PURE android and fast updates so u don't get tied to the manufacturer's good will, I don't like the Super AMOLED display to my eyes the colors are too saturated but that doesnt mean they are not good.
i've bought the nexus after having 4 HTC devices and i must say pure android device is an another league, the custom UI is just slowing it down.
and so about the Exynos 5 Octa
this is NOT a real Octa core. this processor packs tow quad cores
4-cortex A7 @1.6ghz for power 'saving'
4-cortex A15 @ 1.2ghz for performance.
i dont believe in this concept but maybe it's just me.....
so i dont see reason to buy the sgs4 while u can enjoy the nexus 4.
just my opinion.....
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I'm more tempted to the HTC One but Nexus 5 rumors are 1337
Never ever !
I had the S3 before, i gave it to my son and enjoy the N4 now.
I love bug-free custom ROMs, you will never have this on a Samsung product.
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-wont-develop-for-the-galaxy-s4/
Just further confirmation that the development landscape for the s4 will be very barren
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*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....
- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones
- Screen not calibrated
- No LTE
- No SD card
- Only 16gb
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- Go ahead and try different roms an kernels, you can double your screen on time with the right combination.
- Go ahead and try different kernels, as an example, the recomended values that comes with franco will blow your mind away.
- Well you have a point there, me personally don't need that LTE speed.
4,5 - Well, I don't really understand why people needs more than 16gb in a phone, is your phone a cinema theater or something that has tons of movies to store or what?
First nexus phone for me after an S2 and an S3. I'm never moving to any other device unless it's the next nexus. Nuff said.
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http://mblog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-wont-develop-for-the-galaxy-s4/
Just further confirmation that the development landscape for the s4 will be very barren
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The CM team debunked that.
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/7jywLJdswki
Setting Device Expectations
Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.
This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.
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I should add that whether you sell your Nexus 4 to buy an S4 is completely up to you. That is an extremely personal decision, and only the OP can decide that. Anything else is just everyone else's personal opinion, and is usually going to go between people who actually use and love the Nexus 4 (or Nexus in general), and those who don't but post here anyway. Being as this is the Nexus 4 board, I would think the question is most likely going to be slanted in one direction.
Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!
I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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X2
I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.
Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.
He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.
Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.
I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
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If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.
just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
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I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!
Hi guys...... I just want to know your reasons why didn't you upgrade to the new nexus 7.
For me, i dont think i need to upgrade because mine still working better using PA w/ faux kernel in it. I had issues before with screen flickerin, auto turn off when battery reaches down to 32%, slow charging...but it's all fixed now. Found a lot of ways solve the problem. Lagfix works better for me so i dont have any problems with lag.
Im also happy using OTG for sharing photos from my sony nex-5n camera. So i think i dont need a camera on a tablet.
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4.3 fixed the trim issue so nobody should have lag issues. I, like you, don't feel the need to upgrade. Mine does everything I need/want it to do. Sure I like nice new shiny toys but just can't justify $250ish, give or take a little depending on size, for something that performs all the same functions as last year's model.
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I will upgrade at some point, but I'm not in a rush. Two reasons for that:
1) This isn't an essential device for me. Just a casual "toy" that's great to have. I still live and die by my desktop and I'll probably never fully fit into the mobile world (Still refuse to own a phone).
2) For reasons I can't explain...maybe the upgrade to 4.3 or the fact I added another router in my house that gets a strong signal to my N7, or both, this device is working smoother and faster than it EVER has. Browsing the net, in particular, is comparable to my desktop experience now. Bottom line: everything is fast and lag free.
So, yeah, I'd like to have the new one, but with my 1st gen working so well I can't justify the cost as it's not an essential piece of tech for me...
Well... I don't think it's available here in the UK until August 28. Or at least according to Wikipedia it isn't.
And even then I don't think I'll buy it... already spent more money on tech and software this year than I should have.
I'll probably wait, until the run up to Christmas, when local stores will be vying for competition... and as a result there'll be some cost cutting. Not by much I grant, but £10 or £20 shaved off the RRP sounds good to me.
Also, I'm never a huge fan of immediately buying tech just when it's been released - it usually comes with a cornucopia of bugs, hardware defects and other unpleasant idiosyncrasies. Give it five or six months, and those wrinkles will likely have been ironed out.
And in any case, 4.3 is running sweetly on my current Nexus 7... so much so, in fact, that I doubt I'll ever bother with Custom ROMs/Kernels.
I'm a man of simple tastes... Root, Nova Launcher and AOSP browser is all I really need. (+ some core apps).
Rgrds,
Ged.
I'm not upgrading because this one is still working and I have to save money to buy furniture and baby clothes.
Not upgrading because my Nexus 7 still works like a charm, being able to do anything I could wish and because I simply don't have the money/don't want to spend it on it.
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Now I've got a fast rom and kernel and am running 4.3, I can't see the need.
I'd like the better screen, but I'll wait until all the issues are resolved before I look again.
Alan
Multirom is not yet available on N7 2013. I couldnt go to a tablet without a multiboot solution anymore. The ability to run 4.2.2 roms, 4.3 roms and Ubuntu desktop for n7 all at the same time has allowed me to be desktop and laptop free.
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Cause this one still works and still gets updates.
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I'm waiting just in case they do the same thing they did last year and drop the lower end model and introduce a higher capacity one at the same price point. I was furious after buying a 16gb model in 2012 for $250 only to have them release a 32gb model for the same price a few months later! I'll gladly wait for a possible 64gb at $269 or even $299. If it hasn't happened by the time the Nexus 5 (or whatever they're gonna call it) drops this fall then I'll feel safer buying it (after I get my hands on the next Nexus phone of course...!). The good thing is, I already have a handful of people that want to buy my old one from me just cause they know it's already pimped and will include tech support (from me lol)
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I've got 4.3, one of the main reasons I would upgrade. And my needs are very simple. Mostly forum reading aps, like this one. News, Wikipedia, the occasional web search, and YouTube.
The first gen handles that with ease. My 5" Phablet handles everything else.
So i will wait and see what is new in the future at this size.
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Our Nexus 7 has the newest Android version and has still a very fast cpu and gpu. I don't see any reason for spending 250€ again for a new device.
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As I live in the UK I can't even see the new model to appreciate just what differences there could be over an above that what I already have got with my 16GB Nexus 7.
But mine seems to be more than adequate to meet my needs.
I do, on occasion, get to use my wife's Xoom and with that being a 10" tablet I do like the screen size difference and I now seem to be more interested in the up and coming replacement for the Nexus 10 rather than this model. However price will be a big influence there.
Having already got a tablet I do not think of the value that they offer as a stand alone device, if that makes sense, but more of what they offer over and above what I have got.
I suppose that goes part way to explain why I'm not too much interested in the 2013 version of the Nexus 7.
I haven't upgraded yet because I remember how it went with the original Nexus 7: I bought one shortly after it came out, then a model with double the storage hit the market for the exact same price and the one I had dropped down.
I'll be waiting for the 32gb model to hit in November for the exact or near same price as the current 16gb model.
Why waste money on something I don't need?
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I haven't upgraded yet because Google keeps telling me "this product is not available in your country yet"
Definitely want the LTE version....
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Like others have already said, my current N7 is doing what I need it to just fine!
Also, I found that I wouldn't mind having the mobile connectivity when I choose to; so I think I'd only upgrade if they came out with the LTE model in Canada.
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Not upgrading because my Nexus 7 still works like a charm, being able to do anything I could wish and because I simply don't have the money/don't want to spend it on it.
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Mine also..still working good. Otg making me not needing the use of nexus 7 2nd gen camera. I think i'll have to wait for the 3rd gen to come out just to upgrade.
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I don't want to upgrade because of putting out the cash. I like my 1st gen tablet. It works great, fast and does everything I need it to do. Other than the sake of having something new, meh I don't care.
Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4 [EDIT: ROM!]
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Guzanni said:
Hello my fellow N4 users,
I think I need your help with this one. I bought my N4 in december last year and I am very happy with it. Since I bought my S2 more than 2 years ago, I began rooting it and since then, I wanted to have a Nexus because of the rooting scene behind it.
I live in Holland and the N4 wasn't going to be sold trough the official way. So I went to a German city close to the Dutch border (2 hours driving) and paid 400 euro for my new N4.
It's running on the newest Rasbeanjelly 4.3 rom with Purified kernel. I am using stuff like Greenify and Awesome beats, Faux sound and so on.
There is just one thing I feel bad about and that's the two scratches on the screen (one of the scratches is about 5 cm.. ) because my case was on it's way and it was New Years Eve (I was drunk lol).
I have also bought the Nexus 7 2nd generation after I sold my old N7. Simply said, I love the Nexus line of Google.
Now, the dilemma. I work in a phone shop and we won a competition and now me and my colleagues will all receive a new Galaxy S4. When I saw this phone for the first time, I immediately love the screen. But when I was comparing by N4 (with PA 4.2.2) against the stock S4 of my friend, my N4 wasn't slower, no, it was even slightly faster. But the holiday pictures my friend took and showed them to me on his beautiful amoled screen were awesome..
Second, if I check out the S4 forums, there is so little AOSP and custom roms for the S4. And I know why, CM said a while ago that they would stop making roms for Samsung phones (or something like that) but it isn't relevant why it is so.
I am a root freak, like al of us here, and I don't want to use stupid Touchwiz. And I think a rooted S4 with the right custom rom can't be worse than a N4, right?!
So here are my questions:
Does anyone have experience with a rooted S4 on a custom rom and does it work and feel as smooth as a N4? (I know, maybe it's better to ask this in a S4 forum, but still)
And what would you recommend me based on the story above and your own opinion? Please, don't give answers like 'you say you love Nexus line and rooting, then it's better for you to stay with the N4, but give me another reason to choose better option. You could also think like I never used a N4 and S4 before but I'm still using my rooted S2, what would you recommend me then...
Besides that, the chance is very very big that I will buy the next Nexus
Thanks!
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Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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S4 has a better camera and display. If you must, get a Google edition S4.
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Yes, I the S4 has better display and better camera. The screen is the best reason I can think of to take the S4.
But like I said, I work in a phone shop and I won this S4 and I don't get to choose between the normal and Google edition. Besides that, I saw that I can easily install the Google Edition rom on my S4 after I rooted it.
tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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That was my first intention to do, sell it and wait till the new Nexus comes out and but it. But now I am thinking about using the S4 till the new Nexus comes out. The new Nexus is going to be my new phone after it comes out, no doubt about it.
Treshy said:
flash the google edition rom on your free s4 (I'm very very jealous) and you will (basiccally) have a nexus like device... however I'm not 100% sure it's possible
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Haha I understand you're jealous, I would also be I quickly checked the I9505 forums and yes, I saw a couple of custom roms are available for it. So yes, that is also something that I consider.
zcucurullo said:
Look, for me was the price issue. your getting it free (so go for it). You can also convert it to a S4 google edition, here are a few of the links:
http://lifehacker.com/install-google-edition-roms-on-skinned-htc-ones-and-cer-732590116
http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/how-to-turn-a-galaxy-s4-into-a-google-edition-phone/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-make-android-phone-google-edition/
My question to you is, why would you want to get all the features out of the S4 so you can have 4.3 google version only?
If you need more space, more camera, more power and a bigger screen, well S4 is way to go, and for you is the best way to go, your getting it for FREE.
I'm a nexus owner and former galaxy nexus owner, and I will never trade my newest nexus for any other phone, but maybe that's just me.
Hope this can hep you out!!!
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Thank you for the links! I like the fact that Google brought out Google Editions of top phones like S4 and HTC ONE.
Do you mean that you bought the N4 because of the price issue? If it was same price, you would buy the S4? I would also, but the root scene behind the N4 is bigger, you know..
Look, I like the fact that everything that has to do with root, is available for the N4. So IF I get an S4, I surely will root and would like to use AOSP stuff and custom roms, but also some mods that need root.
I don't need more space, but the bigger/better screen and camera are a plus.
I also said after I got my N4 that I would never use or buy another phone than a Nexus, but getting the S4 for free changed my mind..
maxio1998 said:
Get yourself N4
It's super AOSP optimized, has great support and it's generally awesome
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Yes, I know mate, I already own the Nexus for 10 months now it's awesome.
I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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I hate the S4's appearance and buttons, but the hardware is there. Tough choice, especially with no official word on the new Nexus. I'd get the S4 and flash the Google edition ROM.
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Exacly my thoughts. I don't hate it appearance and the buttons, but I like the the appearance of the N4. The hardware is undoubtly better.
Well, if the new Nexus comes out, I will sell my N4 or S4 and get it as soon as I can
Yeah, though decision it is. I am very curious about an S4 running on stock android actually. But if I test it on my new S4, and try to sell it afterwards, the price will be lower, because it isn't sealed anymore.
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I just got a Nexus 4 1 week ago and I'm loving it so far. Comparing to to my sisters S4, my modded Nexus is so much better (PA 3.99 + Franco r178 + Hospital's Color Profile). By activating Pie and enabling full screen, there so little difference to the screen size of the Nexus and s4. Actually, my Nexus 4 seems to have better screen colors than the stock S4 (thanks to the color profile).
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Thanks for the information! N4 is amazing expecially on PA with Franco. But I haven't heard about that Hospital's color profile thing, I will check it out.
But if I get the S4, I will surely root it and get a custom rom on it. I expect the S4 to outclass the N4 when they are both running on a custom rom/kernel, correct me if I'm wrong...
As a former S4 owner i can tell you that softwarewise the S4 is a total failure. It lags, stutters and opening apps and widgets takes way too long. This is soley caused by the poorly optimized software. The N4 on paper seems way less but in real life it feels much more fluid and lags are very very rare.
But that said the screen (not in direct sunlight), speaker and camera of the S4 are better.
The N4 and XDA support is a win win!
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
Del both and get the lg g2, the first droolworthy non nexus android in ages!
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Sturdy_99 said:
in my opinion N4 is better than S4 in performance. N4 has quad core processor and S4 has Octa core (8) processor. According to my speed tests S4 should have more benchmark score than it gets..like n4 gets about 20 to 22 thousand without overclocking in antutu benchmarks but s4 gets only 27 thousand being an octa core. It is very less for 8 core processor at least it should touch 35 to 40 thousand score without overclock.....So this directly indicates that n4 performance is better than s4...and in any way s4 is laest so it will have good screen and camera..but n4 is also awsome...I would recommend to stay with n4 and wait for n5......now its up to you...i think samsung is just a ****...making customers fools.....Thanks if helped....
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Lol , FACEPALM !
The octa core does not mean all 8 cores are active. It's a combination of 4 A15 cores, and 4 low powered A7 cores, a BiG.little architecture.
And 2nd thing, don't rely on benchmarks as a real life performance measure, nexus devices are never good in that field, yet they offer the best user experience (my opinion).
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Honestly, get the s4 and sell it right away. Don't even open the box. Use the money to get the n5 in fall. I see u value community support a lot, so this would be ur number one option. Samsung's support is just crap. Even a Google edition cannot be compared to pure aosp experience of the nexus and is definitely NOT the same! A lot of sources are still closed at Samsung.
Don't forget ur loss of warranty either, once u unlock the bootloader. U need crap like triangle away, a usb dongle or so on to reset the Samsung counter. If ur screen brakes u might be screwed in case of RMA. With a nexus u just lock the bootloader and u r done!
Also, many people are running around with a Samsung device. A nexus is just rare and far more special
Hope I could help!
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tiru.adi13 said:
Get the s4. Sell it. Use the cash to buy the new nexus (nexus 5 or whatever).
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Ding ding ding we have a winner thats what I would do, but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have. The s4 is nice and I wanted it but the phone gets returned a lot at my job. Its sold the most but returned at a higher rate. I wont lie and say the s4 didnt cross my mind but the price is crazy to me. I keep phones maybe 6 months. Also keep in mind that the screen on the s4 gets micro cracks and is known for that. Known to break randomly. Didn't know till a customer told me about it. Happened to a friend of his.
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/19121
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I would say sell the gs4, they retail for up to 800$ on eBay and with that money you can buy a nexus 5 and have money left over
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Jjday7 said:
but buy the nexus 4 and pocket some money. Sell your nexus you already have.
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Why would he want to do that? As far as I understood, he already owns a n4. Why should he buy another n4 and sell the old one? I'd prefer banking the money he'd make selling the s4 and wait for the n5 or whatever it'll be called.
However, I fully agree to the rest of your post!
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