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Google just announced "Google Voice" their updated and re-branded version of Grand Central. Along with the old features, they now support SMS, voicemail transcription, etc. etc.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/here-comes-google-voice.html
So you can now send and receive SMS messages for free. But how do we get these messages off of the web and onto our phones?
My idea is a desktop app that interfaces with the grand central interface (scraping if it has to, but hopefully they have an RSS feed or some kind of API) and acts as a gateway to an IM bot. The IM bot passes along any messages.
I say "the IM bot," but to be able to reply to your IMs, it will need to be unique. So sending something via IM to [email protected] will be smart enough to spawn a bot for that person to do two way communication.
So for example:
1. John texts your grand central account
2. This program sees the text and spawns a bot with Jon's phonenumber, combined with your username on whatever jabber server you interface with (your own? I dunno). [email protected]
3. You receive the text via IM on your phone (data connection required)
4. You respond to the bot
5. Your response is interpreted by the program and is sent back through the grand central web interface
This would work with any phone that has IM capability, and your bot could even be smart enough to actually SMS you if you can't be reached over IM or whatever.
Another way to go about it (perhaps less complicated) would be to create a windows mobile app that is dedicated and checks for new sms messages every few minutes through its own internet connection. It could be set up to use windows mobile alerts and give you an interface much like the current sms message interface. Some intelligence could be built in so that it scans for new messages more frequently around times when messages have been sent or received, so you can still have quick conversations.
This combined with iDialer, which allows you to do GC dialing already on windows mobile, would be the perfect solution! You wouldn't even ever have to worry about porting your number again if you switch phone carriers.
Thoughts?
Anybody have any luck with using skype to make phone calls on the Archos 70? I have been thinking about switching off my phone data plan and getting a mifi hotspot instead and using my tablet to make phone calls or maybe just getting a cheap feature phone with no data (I rarely make calls).
I have Skype set up on the tablet but they want $16 or so to set up a phone number and the first three months etc and I don't want to put that out if it doesn't work the way I expect. I have been able to install it but without a phone number, I can't use it for much..
You can't use skype with sip providers afaik, so tough luck on that. May want to check about using sipdroid/ipkall?/pbxes/gv instead.
I have played a little with sipdroid and I can connect outside calls using my google voice number but I couldn't figure out how to make the tablet receive incoming calls.
I haven't been able to find a good noob step by step guide to getting it set up.
Instead of skyle, why don't you check an app called gvdialer, you can make free US Canada calls.
You will need google voice, gizmo5 or sip service and sipdroid.
I have been using it and it is working very good.
richdaley said:
I have played a little with sipdroid and I can connect outside calls using my google voice number but I couldn't figure out how to make the tablet receive incoming calls.
I haven't been able to find a good noob step by step guide to getting it set up.
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Sipdroid have some pbxes set up automation which you may want to explore before you do the following. Someone mentioned that pbxes can do google voice callback too (Which I saw was only for premium account, but he said its not.) Do tell if you got that working, which I would love to do (to cut sipsorcery from my chain)
Okay, here's a quick and easy method.
Step1: Register an ipkall number, add it to google voice. If it fail, delete the ipkall number and try again (maybe different ipkall area code) til it want to verify.
Step 2: This is an easy UDP method (but will run your battery out faster): sign up at sip2sip.info, and put in your sip2sip phone number/sip domain name(sip2sip.info) to the ipkall configuration page.
I recommend learning about pbxes and using it instead of sip2sip though. It's more powerful and allow tcp connection (sap less resource). but it never hurt to make it work with sip2sip first.
Step 3: Connect to sip2sip using sipdroid (you really only need the sip2sip.info domain name, sip address, password.
Step 4 (optional): Test by calling your ipkall number and see if it reach your phone
Step 5: Verify your ipkall number through google voice. (Use gizmo or skype or real phone or some tone generator if you need to emulate a proper tone sound)
Step 6: Get one of the available google voice callback dialer, and a dialer app like 'dialer one'.
You should be all set up. If it's not clear enough do mention it. I just wrote it on the spot, so...
I'm going through ipkall -> sipsorcery -> pbxes -> sipdroid right now myself.
Thanks for the info MoonPhatasm. Unfortunately, I am such a noob when it comes to the actual phone capabilities of these devices that I am lost. I have signed up for a sip2sip.info number and an ipkall number. I have google voice and sipdroid installed. Where do I go from here? When I try to add the number to google voice, I get a force close.
Ok, here is where I am...
I was able to create all the accounts and I finally found an ipkall number that was not rejected by Google voice. Right now, the number appears but it has to be called and a code has to be entered for it to be reclaimed. Since I don't have the phone working yet, I don't know if that is possible.
I have sipdroid installed and I entered the sip2sip.info username, proxy etc into it and the green light appears in the task bar. When I try to make an outgoing call, the screen comes up like it was going to make a call but then the slider automatically goes down and ends the call. I am also not able to connect an incoming call.
I had set up the quick connection between google voice and pbxes within sipdroid and I was able to make outgoing calls. I deleted that information though because I wasn't sure if it was relevant. If I can use it, I wrote it down so I could reenter it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I finally got this to work in the most simple way possible and it is awesome. All you need is sipdroid and the google voice app installed on your phone (and obviously a google voice account).
To set it up:
1. On a computer, open google voice, go to settings --> voice settings and check the checkbox next to Google Chat.
2. Open sipdroid and click on New PBX linked to my google voice (google voice needs to be installed and signed in on the phone)
3. A screen will come up for you to create your account. Your google voice email address should appear on this screen. Just fill in the other information.
4. Click Create
5. After a few minutes, a green dot will appear in the notification bar to indicate that sipdroid is active.
That's all I did.
If you don't have anyone around to call you for testing, you can use this site:
http://www.wheresmycellphone.com/
Rich
richdaley said:
Ok, here is where I am...
I was able to create all the accounts and I finally found an ipkall number that was not rejected by Google voice. Right now, the number appears but it has to be called and a code has to be entered for it to be reclaimed. Since I don't have the phone working yet, I don't know if that is possible.
I have sipdroid installed and I entered the sip2sip.info username, proxy etc into it and the green light appears in the task bar. When I try to make an outgoing call, the screen comes up like it was going to make a call but then the slider automatically goes down and ends the call. I am also not able to connect an incoming call.
I had set up the quick connection between google voice and pbxes within sipdroid and I was able to make outgoing calls. I deleted that information though because I wasn't sure if it was relevant. If I can use it, I wrote it down so I could reenter it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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You didn't follow everything.
First of all, the guide I wrote said to install gv callback dialer and dialerone. They're what you use to make outgoing calls. You may have to set the gv callback dialer to always be used for calling, and set your ipkall number there.
Secondly, verifying the ipkall phone number is on step 5, which is to be done AFTER you have the phone incoming call working (Tested by calling the ipkall number using another phone).
But interesting on that google voice/chat thing, and I'll have to check that.
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You didn't follow everything.
First of all, the guide I wrote said to install gv callback dialer and dialerone. They're what you use to make outgoing calls. You may have to set the gv callback dialer to always be used for calling, and set your ipkall number there.
Secondly, verifying the ipkall phone number is on step 5, which is to be done AFTER you have the phone incoming call working (Tested by calling the ipkall number using another phone).
But interesting on that google voice/chat thing, and I'll have to check that.
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Oops, I was trying to test the outgoing calls without setting up dialerone and then assuming something was broken when I actually had it set up correctly.
Either way, thanks for you help. My new "phone" is working awesome with GV, PBXes, and sipdroid.
Yw, and thanks for making me test out that automated set up again. I was suspecting that sipdroid users gets to make special accounts with google voice set up on the pbxes. It's confirmed now. That google voice peering is normally for paid users only... But for some reason with the automatic set up, we also get it...
Grats about the phone
anyone tried this apk on Archos?
villainrom.co.uk/SGS2/skype045.php
There is a new version on the Market as of today (or yesterday)? But it says
Video calling now supported on more Android phones. See the What’s New section for full handset list...
If you're using Android 2.2 (Froyo) or greater on a device not listed in the What's New section, you should still be able to enable video calling in Skype settings. Please note that video call quality may not be as good as on a certified device.
On Android 2.2 (Froyo), only the back camera will work. This is because only devices running Android OS 2.3 or higher allow apps to access the front facing camera.
If the setting to enable video calling is not available in the Skype Settings on your device that means video calling is not yet supported on your phone.
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I gave it a try with Archos 70, since it has no Rear camera to see, but still no joy. No video support at all.
there must be a way
at least we get the option. My commtiva m600 has 2 cameras but runs 2.1 so skype doesn't support it. We either need a genius developer or patience, I'm sure it won't be long.
The new Skype for android can only access the rear camera. So we would need to re-label it as such. Or Skype would need to recognize only on camera if only one exists regardless of label.
I know how to view hardware on my Archos, but changing the label so apps see it as the "rear" camera..... no clue yet.
OK, I have been testing a few different sip providers since hearing gizmo5 is on life support and the plug being pulled in april...
Keep in mind that ANY sip provider can be used (you just need to know the credentials)
So for example, if you have at&t uverse voip telephone, then you can set it up on your nexus s (as well as your cable provider voip or magic jack)
I don't use those, so I can't tell you how to do it, but it is all the same...
instructions
-download sipdroid from the market
-run sipdroid and click "New PBX linked to my Google Voice"
-enter username and password (note if you already have a pbxes account delete it or choose a new username)
-delete/uninstall sipdroid (you no longer need it because gingerbread can do voip natively, you just needed it to configure your pbxes account)
-now go to your phone settings/ call settings/ accounts
add account
username- your name/nickname-200
password- check pbxes for password(same as pbxes under extensions-sipdroid<200>)
server- pbxes.org
[set as primary]
couple things to note- to receive incoming calls check the box, but as it says, battery life will be reduced
with cm7, "internet" calls can be placed over 3g...so using this option all your calls can be free* ...every thing goes through google voice
add "some" personal data so they realize it is not a "drone" account
advanced "not working for free accounts"
go to pbxes.org and sign up for a free account
after you finish entering and verifying log out and log back in
go to the left hand side and click extensions and "add extension" then "sip"
Add SIP Extension
Extension Number: 200
Display Name: your name (or nickname)
Webcall not used
URL: http://pbxes.org/
Text:
Image:
Latitude:
Longitude:
Device Options
password whatever you want
Voicemail & Directory: to link gv
voicemail password: google voice password
email address: [email protected]
email attachment: yes no
Play CID: yes no
Play Envelope: yes no
Play Next: yes no
Delete Vmail: yes no
vm options:
submit and save
NEXT
click on trunks, then add trunks and select sip
at the end of the URL it will have =SIP change this to =GTALK and hit enter (see below)
https://www2.pbxes.com/config.php?display=6&tech=GTALK
enter google username and password and save
Add inbound and outbound routing
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gizmo R.I.P.
Ok it has been two days and no one has ported over the tmobile wifi calling apk so I decided to do some research and get the native wifi (internet) calling working
this is a tutorial that has been done before for the nexus one using sipdroid...but we don't need that app for the NS.
not only does it work very good, but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
1- you need to get a sip client, there are many out there (I tried a bunch with no success), so I ended up using gizmo5
(gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
2-Log into https://my.gizmo5.com -> Change email -> Change password -> Write down your Sip Number and username
3-on you phone go to settings/call settings/(internet call settings at bottom)accounts/add account
4-username: Gizmo username
password: Gizmo password
server: proxy01.sipphone.com
set as primary account (check)
*optional settings all remain default
5-after you back out it will save the setting and verify the account you can check receive incoming calls (needed for connecting google voice) and how you "use internet calling" as well
thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
for added convenience connect gizmo to your google voice (needed for free calls as well)
6-go to https://www.google.com/voice
go to Settings > Phones
click "Add another phone"
name: Gizmo
number: +1747(gizmo5 #)
phone type: Gizmo
*verify the number
for free outgoing calls one more step is needed..
7-go to the market and download "google voice callback free" (or donate version)
8-enter your gmail address and password
-enter callback number-"gizmo number"
-check auto-answer the callback
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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how to: DETAILED 100% FREE Wifi/VoIP calling set up
I decided to write up this EXTREMELY DETAILED “step by step guide for dummies” on how to set up everything you need WITHOUT HAVING TO PURCHASE ANYTHING (ie. a Gizmo5 account off ebay, or calling minutes/credits)” to be able to place AND receive calls COMPLETLY FREE using WiFi. I’ve noticed that there are quite a few people here that are pretty lost, in regards to setting up this really cool feature on their Nexus S.... so I hope that this detailed “how to” clears up most all of the confusion. Not to mention that this is a 100% TOTALLY FREE way to set this feature (where as the other “how to’s” require that you buy a Gizmo5 account if you don’t already have one).
All you need is:
- your Nexus S (or any other WiFi enabled phone, I guess).
- a FREE Sipgate account
- a FREE Google Voice account (which you should have already anyways).
- the “Google Voice Callback FREE” app (free).
1 - Go to Sipgate.com and sign up for the free account (this will give you free incoming calls)
2 - Once your done setting up your account, click on “settings”.
3 - Click on “Sip Credentials” on the right hand side of the page.
4 - All the information you need to enter into your phone will be here.
5 - Get your phone, turn on WiFi (if not already done so), & go into your phone’s “Settings” …then “Accounts” (under the Internet Call Settings).
6 - Click “Add Account”.
7 - For your username, enter the “SIP-ID” which is shown on the “Sip Credentials” page (see step 3 & 4 above) ****NOTE: this is NOT the user name that you chose when you signed up with Sipgate, this “username” is generated & chosen for you by Sipgate****.
8 - For your password, enter the “SIP-Password” which is shown on the “Sip Credentials” page (see step 3 & 4 above) ****NOTE: this is NOT the password that you chose when you signed up with Sipgate, this “password” is generated & chosen for you by Sipgate****.
9 - For your Server, enter “sipgate.com”.
10 - UN-CHECK the “Set as primary account” box (used for outbound calls)..... that is, unless you DON’T want to use the Google Voice Callback app to be able to place calls for free too (steps 14 &15 below).
11 - Press the “back” button on your phone (which will save the info), and CHECK the box that says “Receive incoming calls” (reduces battery life).
12 - Under “SIP accounts” (on the same screen, on your phone), you will see your username @sipgate.com, and underneath it, the status of your connection will be displayed. It should say “receiving calls” (which means that everything is set up right & you are ready to go!!).
13 - Go to your Google Voice account & add your new Sipgate phone number to your Google Voice account (I believe that you can chose whatever “phone type” you want from the dropdown box, except for Gizmo). Verify the number (you will receive your first FREE WiFi call, from Google Voice).
14 - Now open up your “Android Market” and search for “Google Voice Callback FREE”. Download & install it. Once installed, it will be titled “GVoice Callback” in your apps list.
15 - Set up GVoice Callback according to your own personal preferences. Just make sure that you select your new Sipgate phone number as the “Callback Number”. Also check the “Offical GV app compatibility” box. I also checked the “Auto-answer the callback” box (though I don’t think this is necessarily required).
16 - Finally, exit out of that & go back into your phone’s settings. Go to “Additional settings” and just make sure that the “Call waiting” box is checked.
17 - And you’re done!! You can now place AND receive FREE phone calls using WiFi (through your Google Voice number).
****NOTE: One thing that I’ve noticed is that GVoice Callback only works on 10-digit phone numbers -so just make sure that you’ve included the area code in the phone number of all your local contacts if you want to be able to call them using GVoice Callback****
****ADDITIONAL NOTE: If you have been connected to WiFi for a while, and are trying to make a WiFi call, but you aren't getting a call back from Google Voice (you are stuck on the screen that says "waiting for call back").... just go back into your phone, and go to: "Settings" then "Accounts" (under Internet call settings), and then UN-CHECK the "Receive incoming calls" box. Wait a second or two, and then RE-CHECK the box. Also, try turning off & then on again your GV Callback app. After toggling these two things off & then back on again, you should be able to make the call & be connected relatively quickly (within a couple seconds)****
****ONE MORE THING OF NOTE: It has become apparent that, at times, the party which you are calling will hear an echo of their own voice, when using this set up. Perhaps a different SIP provider will resolve this issue?? Either way, I hope that this guide at least clarifies the process of setting something like this up. If a better method (better SIP provider, etc) is found, be sure to let me know****
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I was going to purchase a sipp account today but i had no money in my paypal tomorrow i will
Thaanks ! I just tried it and it works great.
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
Wheres the sip phone icon? I have it set to only call for internet calls. In the google demos, it actually shows a second phone icon with "sip" written on it. Where is that? Only getting it to work if its set to choose everytime or always
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ogdobber said:
Ok it has been two days and no one has ported over the tmobile wifi calling apk so I decided to do some research and get the native wifi (internet) calling working
this is a tutorial that has been done before for the nexus one using sipdroid...but we don't need that app for the NS.
not only does it work very good, but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
1- you need to get a sip client, there are many out there (I tried a bunch with no success), so I ended up using gizmo5
(gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
2-Log into https://my.gizmo5.com -> Change email -> Change password -> Write down your Sip Number and username
3-on you phone go to settings/call settings/(internet call settings at bottom)accounts/add account
4-username: Gizmo username
password: Gizmo password
server: proxy01.sipphone.com
set as primary account (check)
*optional settings all remain default
5-after you back out it will save the setting and verify the account you can check receive incoming calls and how you "use internet calling" as well
thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
for added convenience connect gizmo to your google voice (needed for free calls as well)
6-go to https://www.google.com/voice
go to Settings > Phones
click "Add another phone"
name: Gizmo
number: +1747(gizmo5 #)
phone type: Gizmo
*verify the number
for free outgoing calls one more step is needed..
7-go to the market and download "google voice callback free" (or donate version)
8-enter your gmail address and password
-enter callback number-"gizmo number"
-check auto-answer the callback
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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Oggs you have more moves than a chess board lol
JD
zachthemaster said:
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
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Think this could get figured out in the next 10 days? If not, I have to seriously consider taking this phone back. I don't get cell coverage at my house.
ugh....
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
zachthemaster said:
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
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the tmo apk won't work without a kernel that supports it, the lib files and a build prop mod...no, the tmobile uma client uses your cell minutes...this does not, it is pure voip
JupiterDroid said:
Oggs you have more moves than a chess board lol
JD
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b84cops said:
Think this could get figured out in the next 10 days? If not, I have to seriously consider taking this phone back. I don't get cell coverage at my house.
ugh....
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I was in the same boat, that is why I researched how to do this...now I am set. this is better than the tmobile app because it doesn't use your minutes
lithdoc said:
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
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you are ahead of yourself... "turn off" all google voice on your phone and initiate the call from your desktop...then answer the gizmo call on your phone and enter the code (on your phone)...then turn on and adjust your gv settings
this is not a variant of UMA
lithdoc said:
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
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I had to install the Gizmo5 client on my PC. Then when the Google voice verification call came in, there's a little down arrow at the top of the popup box. If you click that, you can open a text with "sound blasts" I think it was. There's a keyboard there, and if you click on the two numbers, GV will accept it.
Damn, seems like some of you guys are/were depending on this feature... It'd be nice, but I dont need it. Good luck to you all.
ogdobber said:
I was in the same boat, that is why I researched how to do this...now I am set. this is better than the tmobile app because it doesn't use your minutes
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currently, i don't have a sip account. doesn't this still cost extra money to make happen? is there a cost per minute?
IDtheTarget said:
I had to install the Gizmo5 client on my PC. Then when the Google voice verification call came in, there's a little down arrow at the top of the popup box. If you click that, you can open a text with "sound blasts" I think it was. There's a keyboard there, and if you click on the two numbers, GV will accept it.
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Well, I figured out what the issue actually was... I signed up for Gizmo some 5 years ago, but have not really used it. Anyway, they gave out 2 numbers - one SIP with 747 are code, the other with 775 (I don't know whether they still give those away). I had initially put in the 775, and while it would ring, it would not recognize my inputs. Once I changed it to 747, it all worked like a charm.
Hm, okay, so something is still not working. I followed the directions as listed in the first posting, but I still have no sucess making calls. It just says registered callback, waiting for google to call back, and it goes nowhere from there...
UPDATE: anyway, it seems to work when my gizmo app is open on the computer, but that's kinda useless, since I want to use the phone as the calling device. Any thoughts?
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currently, i don't have a sip account. doesn't this still cost extra money to make happen? is there a cost per minute?
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ogdobber said:
.... but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
....gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
...thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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does this change your phone number? i could never get this setup on the nexus 1, but is the addition of sip calling with gingerbread what makes this work?
lithdoc said:
Well, I figured out what the issue actually was... I signed up for Gizmo some 5 years ago, but have not really used it. Anyway, they gave out 2 numbers - one SIP with 747 are code, the other with 775 (I don't know whether they still give those away). I had initially put in the 775, and while it would ring, it would not recognize my inputs. Once I changed it to 747, it all worked like a charm.
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You are lucky, gizmo stopped the 775 numbers a long time ago. It was supposed to be a back door to make free calls or have free incoming calls to your gizmo account. You have a valuable gizmo account
Does anyone know if this is a feature of gingerbread and will be available for other gingerbread phones?
Thanks.
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does this change your phone number? i could never get this setup on the nexus 1, but is the addition of sip calling with gingerbread what makes this work?
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if you go (call) through your google voice then that shows up...if you you use straight up gizmo then that will show...All of my numbers forward to my google voice so it doesn't matter what number people call, my phone will still ring
I have a rooted Droid X and have really enjoyed finding ways to tinker with my phone to get additional benefits from my device. Previously, I have been getting completly free VOIP calls by running the hacked version of Skype that allows for functionality over both 3G and Wifi. I paid $30 (so not completely free) to Skype for an annual unlimited calling plan to all of North America. The quality is pretty good over 3G and even better over wifi. However, when I call people, my number shows up as unknown. I could pay Skype for an actual #
($60) to remedy this so that people could call me back, but I've held off for now. If someone wants to talk, it is easy for them to text me and I can call them back since I don't always leave my phone on 24/7.
Recently, I decided to play around with SIP technology as a way to have an alternative to Skype and to have a reason to tinker. I already had a Google Voice # and set up a free account at sipgate.com Then I set up my Google Voice # to forward all calls only to my sipgate #.
I also downloaded Google Voice Free Forwarding app from the marketplace and configured that so that whenever I make an outbound call via the standard dialer or through my CSIPSIMPLE widget, the call will pause, google voice free callback will intercept the call and allow me to talk to my desired # completely free with no minutes used. The drawback is that it can take 15-20 seconds for the call to go through and the call quality doesn't seem to be as good as when using Skype---both on 3g and wifi. But, to be fair, it is completely 100% free calling and cheaper than Skype.
Recently, I had the opportunity to acquire a Gizmo5 account and a Sip Sorcery account and am curious to know how I can use these to enhance my sip experience on my android phone.
I know there is a plethora of info on both of these services, so I don't expect anyone to hold my hand or reinvent the wheel. However, I just want to know what some of the possibilities may be.
Since I already have Skype and already have a sip service setup through Google voice, sipgate, and Google Voice Callback, will Gizmo or Sip Sorcery allow me to have a better experience in terms of quality, ease of use, or quickness when it comes to connecting the call.
It looks like Gizmo my have some integration through Google Voice that other #s don't offer but does it really offer any major advantages?
Personally I only use SIP when connecting to my asterisk server on my VPS to make my calls untraceable and to spoof my callerid for free. Also, I don't really like the SIP services out there.... and I especially don't like Skype's VoIP service. If you are looking for a good SIP app however.... get SIPdroid. (I believe that's what I use)
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I have a SIP number and would love to use it reagularily next to my mobile network number, but unfortunately I can not get the MIUI dialer app to work properly with SIP calls.
I can set up my SIP account in the dialer and receive calls without a problem. Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to tell the dialer to make a specific call through the SIP though. I expected to be offered the choice of which provider I want to make each call through, but there is no per call choice.
I can dig in the settings and restart the dialer app to make it dial exclusively through SIP, or exclusively through mobile network, but that is extremely unpractical. I know a third party SIP app woul work, but I really want to use the integrated solution. Does anyone know how to pull this off?
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I have a SIP number and would love to use it reagularily next to my mobile network number, but unfortunately I can not get the MIUI dialer app to work properly with SIP calls.
I can set up my SIP account in the dialer and receive calls without a problem. Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to tell the dialer to make a specific call through the SIP though. I expected to be offered the choice of which provider I want to make each call through, but there is no per call choice.
I can dig in the settings and restart the dialer app to make it dial exclusively through SIP, or exclusively through mobile network, but that is extremely unpractical. I know a third party SIP app woul work, but I really want to use the integrated solution. Does anyone know how to pull this off?
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Just guessing. If Dialer includes hidden support for SIP, maybe Contacts have too. That way you would define a Contact with SIP URI only, and Dialer would recognize and route as SIP call
cartonneexpress said:
I can set up my SIP account in the dialer and receive calls without a problem. Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to tell the dialer to make a specific call through the SIP though. I expected to be offered the choice of which provider I want to make each call through, but there is no per call choice.
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The SIP implementation isn't really thought through by Xiaomi. But in your address book you can add "internet calls" for contacts (e.g. [email protected]) which are always called via your SIP profile. It's a good workaround for known contacts.
cartonneexpress said:
I have a SIP number and would love to use it reagularily next to my mobile network number, but unfortunately I can not get the MIUI dialer app to work properly with SIP calls.
I can set up my SIP account in the dialer and receive calls without a problem. Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to tell the dialer to make a specific call through the SIP though. I expected to be offered the choice of which provider I want to make each call through, but there is no per call choice.
I can dig in the settings and restart the dialer app to make it dial exclusively through SIP, or exclusively through mobile network, but that is extremely unpractical. I know a third party SIP app woul work, but I really want to use the integrated solution. Does anyone know how to pull this off?
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have you solve the problem using the contacts? i have same problem, receive calls normally, but dialing to a [email protected] on contact, receive a message: anyone response,limit time expired.
I have Redmi Note 8. I was able to use a SIP account before, I just dialed the number and I was prompted to select the account I would like to dial that number from (my SIM cards or my SIP account). Then I factory reset my phone. Added my SIP account back to the built-in phone APP, but when I try to call using my SIP number, I am prompted to select the account I would like to dial from, when I select my SIP account, then I am prompted to choose from my SIM cards only again. My SIP account is correct, because it registered correctly and if I setup SIP account only the SIP calls go through.