Application Idea: How to send/receive SMS messages for life! - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Google just announced "Google Voice" their updated and re-branded version of Grand Central. Along with the old features, they now support SMS, voicemail transcription, etc. etc.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/here-comes-google-voice.html
So you can now send and receive SMS messages for free. But how do we get these messages off of the web and onto our phones?
My idea is a desktop app that interfaces with the grand central interface (scraping if it has to, but hopefully they have an RSS feed or some kind of API) and acts as a gateway to an IM bot. The IM bot passes along any messages.
I say "the IM bot," but to be able to reply to your IMs, it will need to be unique. So sending something via IM to [email protected] will be smart enough to spawn a bot for that person to do two way communication.
So for example:
1. John texts your grand central account
2. This program sees the text and spawns a bot with Jon's phonenumber, combined with your username on whatever jabber server you interface with (your own? I dunno). [email protected]
3. You receive the text via IM on your phone (data connection required)
4. You respond to the bot
5. Your response is interpreted by the program and is sent back through the grand central web interface
This would work with any phone that has IM capability, and your bot could even be smart enough to actually SMS you if you can't be reached over IM or whatever.
Another way to go about it (perhaps less complicated) would be to create a windows mobile app that is dedicated and checks for new sms messages every few minutes through its own internet connection. It could be set up to use windows mobile alerts and give you an interface much like the current sms message interface. Some intelligence could be built in so that it scans for new messages more frequently around times when messages have been sent or received, so you can still have quick conversations.
This combined with iDialer, which allows you to do GC dialing already on windows mobile, would be the perfect solution! You wouldn't even ever have to worry about porting your number again if you switch phone carriers.
Thoughts?

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Displaying Contact Name when receiving SMS from Operator!

Dears,
I was searching all over the net about an application to deal with SMS issues, but did not find any, then thought if it would be a good idea to develop it. I am not a programmer, so thought to share the idea with you here.
Here are my thoughts; which is developing one application to do the following:
1- Every time you receive an SMS confirmation (that your SMS was received by the other party), his phone number appears (not his name) while it is stored in your Imate. The problem is that some times you send the same message to a lot of friends (at the same time), then u start receiving SMS confirmations but you do not know who did not yet received it! Some time due to their mobile was off or out of signal. It would be nice to have a program that dispayes the Contact name instead of the mobile number when you receive the SMS from the operator!
2- Same problem!! when you divert your mobile to the Service Center (to pretend it is turned off), people calls you and find your mobile is off. But you usually receive SMS notification about those who call you in this time (I do not know what this service is called??)!
Any way, when you receive SMS from the service center, it display the mobile numbers not the Contact name! Again the idea is to develop a software to display the Contact name instead of the mobile number.
Please let me know if the idea is not clear, and I got other ideas to add up to this application or other applications.

iPhone Style Voice-mail

Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
Code:
[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
Neil_Brown said:
But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
thedogger said:
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
Judgementand said:
lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!

Reject Call With Text Message

Does anyone know how to get this to work?
It can be found in Start - Settings - Phone - Advanced Tab
Mine is ticked but doesn't seem to do anything when I choose Ignore to an incoming call (i.e. the caller is not sent a text message saying the above)
Any ideas
I have wondered about this for a long time, but haven't come up with anything to make it work, sorry.
I usually disable it sooner or later, just in case.
K_Hismoom said:
I have wondered about this for a long time, but haven't come up with anything to make it work, sorry.
I usually disable it sooner or later, just in case.
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I have unlimited text messages so charges isn't an issue for me.
All I can find is the option to send a text message when a call comes through, but nothing to automatically send a text message on an ignored call.
Hm, I think it's like this. Someone is calling you and if you wan't to ignore/reject the call, put your phone upside down on a table(with screen to the table), the call will be automatically ignored and I think THEN the message will be sent try it, not sure
I think, I have figured it out.
On an incoming call, you have the option to click on "Send text" in the lower left corner. The call is then rejected and you can compose an SMS to send to the caller.
I use an app called SMS Minder to do this myself, and I'm quite pleased with the results. You can have it respond to all missed calls/texts (select BLACKLIST & leave the field blank) or only to missed calls from certain numbers (select WHITELIST & add the numbers you want to respond to).
I've been using it for several months and it makes my work so much easier. I'm a cabdriver, and when a call comes in & doesn't get answered for whatever reason SMS Minder sends a message that says "I can't talk now, please text me".
For the longest time I didn't really trust Texting that much, but it's become an integral part of my work now. So much easier to read&reply to an SMS (10 to 15 seconds tops) than it is to dial voicemail, listen through the prompts & recital of the phonenumber, then listen to the message...and finally after all of THAT is done, then return the person's call. Texting is just that much easier.
Especially if I use a program like this to automate my responses...and a program on my desktop to send other text messages just like they were an email (it's got an interface similar to Outlook). I plug the phone into the computer & tuck it away...then any interaction I have with the phone is done by using Jeyo Mobile Companion (SMS interface with additional cool features) and/or MyMobiler (fully manipulable screen-shot of the phone's screen) on my desktop.
Of all the apps I've tried and/or discarded, these three have become almost indispensable to my work.
Use QSMS To Buddy:FullFeatured Free app from android market
Posted Android app on non Android forum by mistake. Sorry!
i believe, given the age of this thread, that it is about the native windows mobile feature to reject calls with an sms and there was no need to bump the thread with an app for another operating system. also, on android, depending on your phone and rom, this feature might also be pre-installed and available from stock, w/o the need for a 3rd party app.

[IDEA] Cherple for WinMO, Texting through Internet

http://www.cherple.com/downloads.asp
This is a simple application and free service that lets PC and mac users carry a 2 way text messaging convo with any US cell phones.
Well that got me thinking, it would be even cooler and more useful if we could either port this onto Windows Mobile or write a simple application that would connect to this service/website and use it to send text messages to any US mobile number.
As development improves, we could also attempt including stuff like sending text messages to people from your contacts & making it more finger-friendly & etc.

Communicating with device

I'm working on a location based app that would request the phone to send its GPS location. My question is, what are the available methods for requesting the location from the device? My first choice was HTTPD but the device IP is unreachable from the world (sprint). My second choice is SMS and have the phone intercept the messages. If it sees a location request SMS then it would respond to a web service with its current location.
Is this a reliable method?
chris
Looks like MS My Phone uses SMS to request phone data... interesting.
Location request:
SkY!AVEjDy2DGyMCE6RO0qhs56aR1/zf42OXBlbdErz6sVTLW6iHFk+wQUhRX6aSEDkI0w==
Ring request:
SkY!AZbZmdMB6eVOig9Y5Ol6QtCQZAVU8XFZLi19k95Cqzn14CZ+qKuUi+2ha3VFqbRdXA==
Lock request: pin 1234, text Chris
SkY!AYDmzGeCMrT8NeDWmn5QaK96Jvsv0mQZIqEgwzvwE35ZCuBZea4M349kMwBkjVV63Y0ROvV+okapsl7UnzqcJBU=
You would think that MS would filter these texts out of the sync process...
The Ring request worked and GPS location failed (btw, the GpsSample from the SDK does not work either). So no MS I don't want to pay 4.99$ for your non-working premium services.
Sky Command Received | Command Locate (ID 2) | Request Id 22815
Sky Command Received | Command Ring (ID 1) | Request Id 22816
I wish the app was .NET like bing so I can reflect on it.
\Application Data\Microsoft\My Phone\Config.dat contains some service end point info. I would like to get the WSDL of those.
I'm curious about HKLM\init\Myphone\OEMOverride = 1.
This is great MS, due to your SMS interceptor I can't send myself any SMSs that start with 'SkY!'.
I tried resending the above SkY requests to my phone. The only thing that happened was the phone backlight came on (the SMS was not visible) and \Application Data\Microsoft\My Phone\MyPhoneLog.txt got an entry appended but the request was not valid. keep in mind that I had to uninstall the MyPhone app and use the MyPhone web site to send out those SMSs so that they would not get intercepted by MyPhoneService.dll.
I stopped the SBB0: service but the SMS still got intercepted. I didn't stop the Notification though: NamedEvents\MyPhoneRuntimeStartRuntime (if that's the right notification).
I guess the next step would be to write a .NET SMS interceptor to see if it will intercept the SMSs or not.
it looks like the interception is done using MAPI Rules which I assume is processed before MessageInterceptor and it looks like the SMS cannot be replayed...
List of commands:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\My Phone\SkyServices\SkyCommands

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