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Asus is crazy today, I have to say that. All of their offers are crazy (for specs or for price).
The new Asus Infinity
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-transformer-pad-infinity/
Display: 2560x1600
SoC: Tegra 4
4K HDMI + USB 3.0 port
Price: $399 (Tablet) $499 (Tablet + Dock)
The new Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 inch
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/asus-memo-pad-fhd-10-hands-on/
Display: 1920x1200
SoC: CloverTrail+ 2x1.6GHz
Price: Unknown, but given the price $399 of new Asus Infinity and there are two versions 16 and 32 gigs, I guess it will be $250 and $300 (the MemoPad HD 7 inch is $150)
I think Sony faces the payoff of delaying its Tablet Z. These two tablets are so powerful. The new Asus Infinity has better specs in any area with the same price but having a excellent dock (which many love). The MemoPad's specs are not far from Tablet Z (better CPU with less power consumed, weaker GPU), the possibility of installing normal Windows 8 due to Intel CPU, and the price should be much more sweet.
I have three Asus tablets (tf101, tf201, tf701), and I know their issues (stupid update, bad build quality, and something special issues of each tablet) and swear not to buy another one, but as I said, these offers above are two sweet, and I think Asus has the experience to pass some stupid things like cheap NAND (which make horrible I/O on my tf701) or wifi.
What do you think?
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Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
cjdalessio said:
How's their support of this development community coming along? ...
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Asus's tablets have very good devs. In fact they are the reasons why users do not leave Asus for their bad software support.
Trno said:
Where did you get those prices from ? To my knowledge old infinity sells at same price as XTZ and the new one would be cheaper then it ? I dont buy it.
Also memo pad 10 was released like 3 months ago and with such price of new one it wouldn't cause them big loses.
My wild guess is that new memo will be 400 and tegra 4 based wont go under 600.
Power wise - i think all knew new gen is coming and XTZ will be getting snapdragon 800 version for that reason. I don't play games on tablet so power is secondary and i wanted HD screen and low weight.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.
I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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I meant how is Asus at supporting Debs? Unlock and AOSP releases and all that. I'd still put my money on the XTZ right now.
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Asus is the quickest OEM releasing the new update (yep, crap but quick very near stock one)
Normally the bootloader is unlocked, even locked but not hard to pass.
The Jones said:
It is also worth considering form factor. The lightness of the XTZ counts for a lot.
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Yes, IMO it's a good selling point too, but now we still don't know the exact weight of the new Infinity. The dock is great, truely, that's why I bought three Asus tablets (tf201 is a nightmare though)
Definitely some impressive hardware from the new ASUS Infinity. It seems it has a great display as well, as expected from a SuperIPS panel and now at such high resolution. USB 3.0 is a good thing from the dock. $499 (dock included) would be a great price for such specs.
Weight is a big deal, personally. It's a 10.1, which means, if it's a kind of heavy tablet, it would be exhausting to use it for prolonged periods of time. I pre-ordered my XTZ, a week ago, but hasn't arrived yet. I think I'm gonna love it but I can deny that the ASUS Infinity would be a great option to wait for.
hung2900 said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...th-Tegra-4-and-ultra-high-res-display_id43620
But the docking is a good thing you cannot have from anything else.
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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I wouldnt belive that, thats just rumor they start those to keep us waiting much like april release of XTZ.
Yea its their selling point, each of them try to have something unique : asus got docking , google updates , sony design and samsung s-pen / pricing i guess.
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The New Transformer Pad Infinity is the first in ASUS range of innovative dual-purpose mobile devices to feature a 1.9GHz NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 mobile processor with quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 CPU and 72-core GeForce® GPU. The 10.1-inch LED backlit display has an ultra-sharp 2560 x 1600 resolution with IPS technology for 178-degree wide viewing angles, plus 10-point multi-touch for smooth and responsive fingertip control. ASUS SonicMaster-enhanced audio completes the mobile tablet entertainment experience. The redesigned keyboard dock now features a multi-touch touchpad, USB 3.0 and an SDXC card reader, and gives longer battery life when the tablet is docked.
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Source: Asus
http://press.asus.com/asus-transforms-expectations-for-computing-at-computex-2013/
I have been burned a few times on Asus tablets; the TF 201 had crappy wifi and gps reception, and the Infinity had terrible IO performance which made the tablet stutter badly when doing something like downloading an update, a file, etc. Also, the chassis started to separate from the screen bezel area on mine, and I barely used used it for a couple of months.
I like the innovation and many efforts that Asus makes when trying to do something different; but for me, build-quality is lacklustre. I would certainly wait for a while before going with any Asus tablet to see what the issues for that tablet will be. Perhaps they will grow of out these issues.
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Last year at this time my problem was that there were no good W8 tablets, and now these seems to be 2 very good W8 tablets upcoming. Money is not an issue, I have been saving since last year for one of these guys, but I was wondering, naturally it's hard to determine given that neither the pro2 or venue aren't out, but what does everyone think about the 2 tablets right now, does anyone have a preference or idea as to which may be better?
Currently debating the same thing, but the price of the Dell Venue is the deal breaker. Essentially half the price for the same tablet, take my money.
Honestly, I prefer the look of the venue 11 pro over the surface pro 2 although I have been massively put off by dell build quality. Every dell machine I have handled has been creaky, wobbly or outright faulty, lets hope the venue changes that.
The venue has a user replaceable battery and the keyboard dock is a design I prefer utilising an actual laptop hinge rather than relying on a kickstand to prop up the screen, would be wicked if the venue had the kickstand too though for when without a keyboard but thats just me wanting one rather than me saying they should have added one. The bay trail option is rather attractive too, £349 entry price for what I presume would be bay trail and no keyboard. Going right upto i5 with 8gb of ram (appears they are using the exact same chip as the surface pro 2 and with 8gb of ram they would essentially become the same device). If someone could assure me of the venue's quality that would probably be the device I went for.
Looks like about £210 for the 8" dell tablet. I am more interested in the 8" tablets right now than the 10 (or in case of venue 11). I have a 13" laptop and can't justify having 2 windows devices which are really quite similar in size. I'm keeping an eye on the 8" windows tablet market, would prefer 7 still but thats just me being picky. Looking to replace my phone first though and don't have the money for buying tablets too.
I think asus and lenovo are supposed to be announcing devices soon too.
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Currently debating the same thing, but the price of the Dell Venue is the deal breaker. Essentially half the price for the same tablet, take my money.
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Do we know the price of their i5 model yet?
Surface pro 2 all the way. The only dell that interests me is the 8in. Venue pro. Surface pro 2 and the pro 1 still has other new devices beat. Quality wise.
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Honestly, I prefer the look of the venue 11 pro over the surface pro 2 although I have been massively put off by dell build quality. Every dell machine I have handled has been creaky, wobbly or outright faulty, lets hope the venue changes that.
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Have you ever used any of their business-class models? The Latitude XT (later replaced by Dell with an XT2) I got from them years ago was drastically better quality than any of the home-class models I've ever gotten from Dell... and customer support was better on the business end as well.
Still, I'd pick the Surface Pro over a Dell tablet any day. With the Surface, you're pretty much guaranteed that Microsoft will keep supporting the tablet with driver updates and the like. With Dell, it's always (in my experience) been a crap shoot whether they would continue updating drivers for new operating systems... so while the Dell might work great with 8.1 now, who knows what will happen if 8.2 changes driver requirements a year down the line.
If there was a Venue Pro at around 6-7 inches though, I'd seriously consider using that to replace my cell phone... it just would still be paired with a Surface.
I've been going back and forth between the two and I think the Dell is going to win unless something else is announced soon.
Sp 2 has slightly better i5 but the dell is still going to top sp1 and will gain battery life/run cooler in the process
The magnesium build of the sp2 is offset by dells removable battery and serviceable hardware.
The keyboard doc is much better then microsofts power cover which relies on the kickstand for support plus is half the price.
Venue has display port AND hdmi port on the tablet.
sp2 does have wacom but synaptics is looking pretty good. For an artist or design pro this of course could be a deal breaker.
Sp2 panel may be higher quality not sure... they both look good and venue is slightly larger.
Hard to say about firmware/driver updates... probably depends on how many they sell. Honestly in a year I'll be itching for the next gen haswell anyway.
I will get the Venue 8 Pro. It is a perfect device.for work. Digital ink plus outlook, office, and one note. The only think I can concerned about us the pen technology they selected. I would have preferred Wacom to be compatible with my Samsung spens
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squadz said:
Currently debating the same thing, but the price of the Dell Venue is the deal breaker. Essentially half the price for the same tablet, take my money.
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Nope. The £349 price Dell has said is for the configuration with an Atom CPU. We still have to see the price for the config. with an Intel i5.
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I think asus and lenovo are supposed to be announcing devices soon too.
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Asus already anounced the tablet-PCs they will sell this year, the Transformer Book T100 (with Atom CPU), the Transformer Book Trio (Android tablet + WIndows dock) and the Transformer Book T300 (same hardware as the Surface Pro 2 but without stylus support).
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Do we know the price of their i5 model yet?
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November 7th the Venue Pro 11 will be available on UK, we'll have to wait until then to see the prices of the different configs on Dell's web.
I presume that the Venue11 is an 11" device, personally, and I know its only an inch, that extra one mackes it a pita to hold, I used to have one of the Samsung 11" tabs last year and it was too big..
Does anyone have an idea about the Venue pen technology?
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Does anyone have an idea about the Venue pen technology?
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I think I have read that the pen technology of the two Venue is from Synaptics, not from Wacom. Try to look on Youtube for videos where they show the device and hope to hear what technology it has.
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Does anyone have an idea about the Venue pen technology?
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In the announcement they said that the venue 8 is using synaptics, I would assume that the 11 also uses synaptics.
Hello,
Does anybody have any input or on hand use of each tablet to make a fair comparison or opinions?
Thanks.
Well, I'm asking the same question, it's hard to say...
Same processor, memory et resolution, battery life...
But the venue 11 pro has bigger screen (10'8 vs 10'1), SSD (64gb vs 32), NFC and better accessories (but expensive...)
In France, the HP Omni is $100 less than the Venue...I don't know wich one to choose either
I'm going to check the HP in a store, it's available since yesterday...Maybe I'll come back with it
please report here your impressions about omni 10 if you can see in store...i preordered on amazon.it (399 euro) but i'm not sure if buy this or the asus t100. BTW both are not available in italy at now (as the venue 11)
So I saw the HP Omni 10 and it looks good, looks solid.
Everything looked smooth. the 2gb memory worries me a little but even the Venue has only 2gb...
The screen brightness was at the max and it doesn't felt that way... maybe the store was super bright, it don't know...not a big deal I guess...
I will go back this afternoon and buy it...
In France the Venue is actually around 600 euros with taxes and shipping...The Omni is 400 euros...so I've made my choice...
I think at this price you can't have better... the T100 does have a keyboard but looks much cheaper and the omni has a better processor and is full hd (1920/1200 actually) !
My only concern will be to find a decent cover/case with - if possible - a keyboard...the galaxy note 10.1 has similar build maybe it can work with its accessories...
how do you feel the screen comparing to other tablets (color, brightness)? i.e. micosoft surface or ipad? what about viewing angles and the matt finish?
wiewing angles are good, it's no retina but it's good. I'm not blown away but it's good (for the price)
venue 11, omini 10 and T100 are good value but looks crap .Nokia 2520 and surface 2 looks awesome but runs a crap os.
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wiewing angles are good, it's no retina but it's good. I'm not blown away but it's good (for the price)
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Did you have the chance to compare the screens of Asus t100 and HP?
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beren said:
Did you have the chance to compare the screens of Asus t100 and HP?
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No, not really
matt99 said:
No, not really
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have you bought the 32gb version? how much free space do you have?
matt99 said:
So I saw the HP Omni 10 and it looks good, looks solid.
Everything looked smooth. the 2gb memory worries me a little but even the Venue has only 2gb...
The screen brightness was at the max and it doesn't felt that way... maybe the store was super bright, it don't know...not a big deal I guess...
I will go back this afternoon and buy it...
In France the Venue is actually around 600 euros with taxes and shipping...The Omni is 400 euros...so I've made my choice...
I think at this price you can't have better... the T100 does have a keyboard but looks much cheaper and the omni has a better processor and is full hd (1920/1200 actually) !
My only concern will be to find a decent cover/case with - if possible - a keyboard...the galaxy note 10.1 has similar build maybe it can work with its accessories...
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If its not too much trouble, please post pics/video/review of the HP OMNI 10. Would be interested in initial impressions of performance.
i'm also really interested in having more information about this tablet, please share your experience...
just to let everyone know, my order of dell venue pro 11 shipped and will get it tomorrow
Can either of these tablets output DTS-HD or Dolby TrueHD audio?
wolf1306 said:
just to let everyone know, my order of dell venue pro 11 shipped and will get it tomorrow
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:good: please make a review as soon as possible.
Does the Dell Tablet Keyboard allow the Venue Pro 11 to close like a laptop?
"Does the Dell Tablet Keyboard allow the Venue Pro 11 to close like a laptop?"
Yesit does, IIjust got mine and I love it
wolf1306 said:
"Does the Dell Tablet Keyboard allow the Venue Pro 11 to close like a laptop?"
Yesit does, IIjust got mine and I love it
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I um, fixed your post for you. :good:
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I um, fixed your post for you. :good:
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Oh man. Thanks. All I did is reply with quote and that's what it linked
I've had the omni10 for a couple days now. I am enjoying it. I am coming from a surface rt.
Screen - Crisp and bright. I have no complaints other than blacks could be darker but its not amoled so my expectations are just off I guess. Viewing angles are nice. Not the best ever but colors don't get washed out. The issue is the reflections on the screen if in a bright room. There is no light creeping from the corners of the screen like the surface rt.
Memory - I've had no issue. I have run mail, calendar, games in the background, had a vpn running and Firefox with multiple tabs without issue.
Weight and feel - its a soft plastic, similar to venue pro 8 but without the pattern. It does not collect fingerprints and feels good, not slippery which is good for a tablet. I picked up my iPad and weight is comparable when in the smart case. Maybe Omni is a little lighter and thinner (when iPad is in the case).
Touch is responsive. It might be useful to get a stylus though. Working in desktop mode with touch sometimes registers incorrect touches or you have to touch multiple times. Ive only noticed this in desktop mode.
Speed - its zippy when opening apps. Night and day from coming from a surface rt. It takes a while to install non metro apps though. I think this has something to do with the hard drive.
Bonus - I really like that HP put the recovery on an 8gb flash drive. It leaves you with space and removes you having to manually move recovery to your own flash drive like people buying the vp8. I thought it was a thoughtful thing by HP.
Heat - gets a little hot just on the HP logo on the back. Other than that it runs comfortable.
Lastly, I've seen some accessories for the Omni 10. I think there is a case and dock. Both are not as good as other ones for baytrail tablets but I dont mind. I really like this has micro hdmi, micro USB and a power connector. It allows me to use peripherals while charging and connect to my hd monitor without hacking or any problems.
Hi guys,
as far as I know, currently the only smartwatch with 4100 at the market is the TicWatch 3 Pro.
Soon the Black Friday will take place and I wonder if there will be more options in the market with the 4100 chip.
What do you think?
I did a research during China double 11. It looks pro3 is the only developed brand with 4100
4100 is definitely a good thing to have in a watch!
It is very quiet about what 4100 smartwatches are upcoming. I have the Fossil Gen 5, but the battery life is poor like all other Wear OS watches, apart from the Ticwatch Pro 3 and the untethered GPS barely works. I would like a watch with a similar battery life to the Ticwatch but to have Wireless charging, not a crappy proprietary charger so I will wait unless the Ticwatch goes for silly money on Black Friday.
Currently Tic watch is recognized as the only watch with sdw4100.
Personally, I'm hoping for the ONEPLUS watch, but it has been postponed indefinitely...
I think TicWatch 3 Pro is the only one with 4100
Asus zenfone Max pro m1 is well into EoL, ~4 years since launch, and Asus isn't making any more phones in this range. Some people might be able to squeeze a bit more out of the device but I was looking for a new daily driver that is as good as/better than this device. mainly looking for 120hz display 5g support and stock/near-stock experience under 20k INR.