Miracast on Nexus 4 with ptv300: Any lag? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
My Nexus4 is currently getting shipped to me and one of the main features I was planning to use is Miracast. According to many other members, there was a new update for the ptv300 that fixed the wireless display issue when connected to the N4. For the people that have a working set up, does full 1080p video stream perfectly (i.e. no lag) to the HDTV via Miracast? Also, is the sound routed to the tv too? Are there any delays in terms of the sound? I want to be able to watch youtube videos + netflix on my hdtv without any lag.
Thanks, and any help is appreciated.
-Mosh

mohitrocks said:
Hey guys,
My Nexus4 is currently getting shipped to me and one of the main features I was planning to use is Miracast. According to many other members, there was a new update for the ptv300 that fixed the wireless display issue when connected to the N4. For the people that have a working set up, does full 1080p video stream perfectly (i.e. no lag) to the HDTV via Miracast? Also, is the sound routed to the tv too? Are there any delays in terms of the sound? I want to be able to watch youtube videos + netflix on my hdtv without any lag.
Thanks, and any help is appreciated.
-Mosh
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The latest firmware is 2.2.2 (not official and just beta testing) and it is working with my Nexus 4. The video and audio can "mirror" to TV through PTV3000 box. I do not feel much lag and it is acceptable. Netgear will continue to develop the firmware and will release official firmware early in 2013.

Works great, if you have a good WiFi connection and not much interference. I used it at home it was smooth and acceptable. Not quite as fast as my fiances iPad on Apple tv, but defiantly a step in the right direction. However it was horrible when I tried it at work, the WiFi doesn't have much of a backbone and failed to preform at all if I tried to changed the devices orientation at home it was almost instant but at work it too 7-12 seconds for it to catch up and it was super grainy.

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[Q] Widi/Miracast working with Note 3?

I was just wondering if anyone used Widi/miracast with Note 3. I have LG TV with built in Widi, and its very neat, works really well with my laptop. I remember reading few months ago that we use that with Galaxy S4. So I assume it should be working with Note 3 but none of the reviews mention that.
Has anyone tried using it with Note 3? Does it work? If yes, how do we set this up?
note3or2 said:
I was just wondering if anyone used Widi/miracast with Note 3. I have LG TV with built in Widi, and its very neat, works really well with my laptop. I remember reading few months ago that we use that with Galaxy S4. So I assume it should be working with Note 3 but none of the reviews mention that.
Has anyone tried using it with Note 3? Does it work? If yes, how do we set this up?
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If no one else lets you know n the meantime I will have a chance to test this tomorrow.
The builtin screen mirroring in the system setting doesn't work? It needs allshare cast?
In using allShare cast dongle from Sammy and Is Working fine With the screen mirroring
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sohebq said:
The builtin screen mirroring in the system setting doesn't work? It needs allshare cast?
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Last Android phone I used was Galaxy S3 and that was on 4.1 (widi/miracast was included after 4.2 in android) so I personally have not tried it but I saw a video on youtube where he used S4 with netgear dongle and it worked. By that logic it should work with any widi enabled devise, but can't be sure untill someone tries it.
note3or2 said:
Last Android phone I used was Galaxy S3 and that was on 4.1 (widi/miracast was included after 4.2 in android) so I personally have not tried it but I saw a video on youtube where he used S4 with netgear dongle and it worked. By that logic it should work with any widi enabled devise, but can't be sure untill someone tries it.
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I've used my Netgear one with my S4, expect it works here, but will confirm when I have a chance.
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If no one else lets you know n the meantime I will have a chance to test this tomorrow.
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Thanks buddy, Waiting for your test result. Hopefully it will work and I wont have to buy Dongle from Samsung.
screencast works perfectly with my note3 and my belkin screencast hdmi-adapter!
the important trick is:
you have to long-click on the screencast device in in the screencast settings, then the option "connect with PIN" appears! with the PIN displayed on the TV you are now able to connect!
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n3 sd800 Works with my p2tv 3000
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TML1504 said:
screencast works perfectly with my note3 and my belkin screencast hdmi-adapter!
the important trick is:
you have to long-click on the screencast device in in the screencast settings, then the option "connect with PIN" appears! with the PIN displayed on the TV you are now able to connect!
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This is amazing, this is one killer feature for me. Thank you guys for confirming.
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Not working for me.
TML1504 said:
screencast works perfectly with my note3 and my belkin screencast hdmi-adapter!
the important trick is:
you have to long-click on the screencast device in in the screencast settings, then the option "connect with PIN" appears! with the PIN displayed on the TV you are now able to connect!
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Can you list versions for me? I can't seem to get mine working.
I have Note 3 on US Cellular, Belkin Screencast A100 with firmware 3.5.28.0, and I've tried both the updated AllShare Cast Dongle S/W Update v1.2.2829 and the previous version (not sure what number though).
The adapter receives the pin request and displays a pin, and the phone asks for the pin and attempts to connect, but fails every time. I don't want to have to buy a new adapter as I use my Belkin for both my laptops and kinda doubt the Samsung model would be as compatible (although shouldn't they all be if they are all using the same standard? But whatever....). Any thoughts?
I have several miracast devices and receivers and note 3 and S4 and nexus 7 2013 work fine with net gear ptv 3000, lg bdp 3000 bluray player, Panasonic miracast streamer with usb port that supports 1tb hard disk etc. See proof in my YouTube uploads where I have several miracast uploads for note 3, s4, nexus 7, s3, Sony xperia zl, Intel widi laptop etc in my YouTube uploads. See my tag line below for more links than posted here or see some links here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0MikjCGq_I
Miracast works fine with screen mirroring toggle no need for allshare. Works fine in 1080p dolby sound. Works great on the s4 too for everything. See video proof in my YouTube upload called miracast better than chromecast on s4 where I show streaming gaming music etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxSJ57Q3zak
Widi laptop should work with same dongles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZaDe-P_74s
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The adapter receives the pin request and displays a pin, and the phone asks for the pin and attempts to connect, but fails every time. I don't want to have to buy a new adapter as I use my Belkin for both my laptops and kinda doubt the Samsung model would be as compatible (although shouldn't they all be if they are all using the same standard? But whatever....). Any thoughts?
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I bought a Belkin Screencast about a year ago when I got my Sony Laptop which had Widi. I could make a connection, but it would disconnect every few minutes. It was useless. I ended up buying a long HDMI cable to connect my laptop to my TV. I never knew if the problem was with the Belkin or my Sony.
Forward one year.....
I found my new Nexus 7 has Miracast. Earlier today, I took my Belkin Screencast out of the closet and tried to connect it to my Nexus without any success. I then connected it to my computer and updated it's firmware from 2.9 to 3.5. After the update, my laptop wouldn't connect. It took lots of tries and may reboots until it finally connected. Then I tried my Nexus. Like you, I got to the security screen and entered the code, but it wouldn't go any further. Once again, after many reboots of both the Nexus and the Belkin, I finally connected! Mirroring worked great. I didn't have time to test thoroughly to see if it would disconnect, but it worked flawlessly for 5-10 minutes.
Don't know why making the initial connection was so difficult. I need to do further tests. Not sure if it's just the Belkin that's the problem. Sorry for butting in on this Note3 thread, but just wanted to share my Belkin Screencast experience with you since you have a similar problem.
howardv said:
I bought a Belkin Screencast about a year ago when I got my Sony Laptop which had Widi. I could make a connection, but it would disconnect every few minutes. It was useless. I ended up buying a long HDMI cable to connect my laptop to my TV. I never knew if the problem was with the Belkin or my Sony.
Forward one year.....
I found my new Nexus 7 has Miracast. Earlier today, I took my Belkin Screencast out of the closet and tried to connect it to my Nexus without any success. I then connected it to my computer and updated it's firmware from 2.9 to 3.5. After the update, my laptop wouldn't connect. It took lots of tries and may reboots until it finally connected. Then I tried my Nexus. Like you, I got to the security screen and entered the code, but it wouldn't go any further. Once again, after many reboots of both the Nexus and the Belkin, I finally connected! Mirroring worked great. I didn't have time to test thoroughly to see if it would disconnect, but it worked flawlessly for 5-10 minutes.
Don't know why making the initial connection was so difficult. I need to do further tests. Not sure if it's just the Belkin that's the problem. Sorry for butting in on this Note3 thread, but just wanted to share my Belkin Screencast experience with you since you have a similar problem.
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By all means, just happy to hear more info about the Screencast being used with Miracast. Thanks for the post.
psp1024 said:
By all means, just happy to hear more info about the Screencast being used with Miracast. Thanks for the post.
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I've done some further testing. The Belkin Screencast is going back in the closet as it's very unstable and unusable. Making the initial connection every time takes several attempts and reboots. Once connected, it loses connection every few minutes. It's just not worth it. The firmware upgrade hasn't made it any better. It performed the same with my Nexus 7 (2013) using Miracast and my Sony laptop using Widi.
Over the weekend I went to Best Buy and purchased the Rocketfish Miracast and the Netgear PTV3000. The Rocketfish looks like a Chromecast dongle. Both the Rocketfish and the Netgear performed very well as they would connect at the first attempt and did not lose the signal. Personally, I think the Netgear performed a little better than the Rocketfish and is a few dollars cheaper.
However, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear would stutter for a second or two every few minutes while watching streaming video and listening to audio. I watched a movie on Netflix using the Netgear and just stopped after 30 minutes as the stuttering gets bothersome. Also, after 30 minutes, a lip-synch error had occurred and seemed like it got worse with time. These tests were done with my 2013 Nexus 7. To test further, I used my Sony laptop (widi) to make the connection. The connection was smooth and there was no more stuttering every few minutes. So the stuttering issues may be a Nexus problem and this may perform very well with your Note3.
In my opinion, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear are great for mirroring. It's perfect for showing pictures, presentations, browsing the web, etc. But not the best for streaming audio/video. Of course, nothing is as dependable and reliable as the good old cable (slimport, MHL, or micro HDMI - whichever your device uses), but that means you have to run a cable across the room.
For streaming Netflix, Youtube, Google Music, Pandora, and Hulu, Chromecast leads the way. No stuttering or lip-synch issues at all. It also allows multi-tasking - such as watching a Netflix movie and checking your e-mail on your tablet/phone without interrupting the movie. It also saves the battery life since you can put your phone/tablet in sleep mode and continue to watch the movie. Another plus is how the Chromecast dongle gets the movie directly from your router than your phone/tablet (hence why you can multi-task, save battery life, etc.). In my book, these are a huge plus for Chromecast, even making it better than a direct cable connection. But of course the big downside is that you need specific apps and mirroring is not an option.
It's sad that you really need two devices to become whole! I would keep both the Chromecast and the Netgear to have all bases covered.
howardv said:
I've done some further testing. The Belkin Screencast is going back in the closet as it's very unstable and unusable. Making the initial connection every time takes several attempts and reboots. Once connected, it loses connection every few minutes. It's just not worth it. The firmware upgrade hasn't made it any better. It performed the same with my Nexus 7 (2013) using Miracast and my Sony laptop using Widi.
Over the weekend I went to Best Buy and purchased the Rocketfish Miracast and the Netgear PTV3000. The Rocketfish looks like a Chromecast dongle. Both the Rocketfish and the Netgear performed very well as they would connect at the first attempt and did not lose the signal. Personally, I think the Netgear performed a little better than the Rocketfish and is a few dollars cheaper.
However, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear would stutter for a second or two every few minutes while watching streaming video and listening to audio. I watched a movie on Netflix using the Netgear and just stopped after 30 minutes as the stuttering gets bothersome. Also, after 30 minutes, a lip-synch error had occurred and seemed like it got worse with time. These tests were done with my 2013 Nexus 7. To test further, I used my Sony laptop (widi) to make the connection. The connection was smooth and there was no more stuttering every few minutes. So the stuttering issues may be a Nexus problem and this may perform very well with your Note3.
In my opinion, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear are great for mirroring. It's perfect for showing pictures, presentations, browsing the web, etc. But not the best for streaming audio/video. Of course, nothing is as dependable and reliable as the good old cable (slimport, MHL, or micro HDMI - whichever your device uses), but that means you have to run a cable across the room.
For streaming Netflix, Youtube, Google Music, Pandora, and Hulu, Chromecast leads the way. No stuttering or lip-synch issues at all. It also allows multi-tasking - such as watching a Netflix movie and checking your e-mail on your tablet/phone without interrupting the movie. It also saves the battery life since you can put your phone/tablet in sleep mode and continue to watch the movie. Another plus is how the Chromecast dongle gets the movie directly from your router than your phone/tablet (hence why you can multi-task, save battery life, etc.). In my book, these are a huge plus for Chromecast, even making it better than a direct cable connection. But of course the big downside is that you need specific apps and mirroring is not an option.
It's sad that you really need two devices to become whole! I would keep both the Chromecast and the Netgear to have all bases covered.
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I wasn't aware Chromecast supported Netflix... interesting, I just may have to get that $35 dongle then.
My Belkin Screencast has worked flawlessly with my two Lenovo's, x230t and w530. I can watch full screen youtube/netflix on my computer while running a VM, movie or even some full screen games on my laptop's screen (Doesn't play well with DirectX full screen, or so it seems... I forget the specific name for that....)
psp1024 said:
My Belkin Screencast has worked flawlessly with my two Lenovo's, x230t and w530. I can watch full screen youtube/netflix on my computer while running a VM, movie or even some full screen games on my laptop's screen
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It could be my Belkin is just a bad unit. But since it's been over a year since my purchase, I'm out of luck.
i have two dongles, Samsung allsharecast dongle and a dongle from Taiwan.
my old S4 i9500 on 4.2.2 connected on both and performance was very smooth on the Taiwanese dongle but there was lag on the Samsung dongle and sometimes audio and video are not in sync (if didn't use the default video player)
after updating to 4.3 performance degraded on both dongles and the phone automatically switches off the power saving mode (which didn't happen on 4.2.2)
i noticed that when you move further away from the dongle or cover the phone with your hand the playback gets choppy and sometimes disconnects (didn't happen on 4.2.2)
with note 3 n9005 i can't connect to the Taiwanese dongle (tried to connect daily for two weeks and only got it to connect 2 or 3 times) . only Samsung's dongle is working and it has the same issues of the s4 running 4.3
friend's s3 i9300 connected to both dongles but didn't have a chance to test performance
"device status has to be official, if you are rooted you can use wanam xposed to fake system status to official"
update:
note 3 connecting after update to 4.4.2, maybe my 4.3 had a bug
samsung allshare cast dongle is laggy
other miracast adaptors are fine
i ordered a measy A2W dongle and it is on the way
Hi all,
I have a Smart TV Panasonic DT60 series, but I'm no able to connect using my Note3.
Any one have successful connected the Panasonic SmartTV with the Note3 and miracast?
Thanks
Samsung All-Share Cast Hub
Just wanted to update everyone that I also tried the OFFICIAL miracast device by Samsung, the All-Share Cast Hub, and it didn't even work well. It did connect I'll give it that, but whenever I tried playing video (via youtube or video player app) it would play the audio but both screens would just be black, and there was an incredibly noticable delay in sound compared to the video stream. Netflix showed the video just fine, but it was out of sync by several seconds.
Needless to say, the hub was returned.

[Q] Nexus Player Audio Dropout

I have run into an issue when playing video content. Video plays back just fine, but every so often the audio will cut out for about a second or two. Since this started I tried doing a factory reset and this seems to have helped a little, but I still get the occasional drop out. I have noticed this within the youtube, plex, and hulu apps. I don't believe this to be a bandwidth/wifi issue as it is running on my 5GHz band and is at most six feet away from the router.
I have also tried playing back the same content on my chromecast and I run into no issues at all.
I am considering doing a complete factory restore with the img available through google.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
dkflint723 said:
I have run into an issue when playing video content. Video plays back just fine, but every so often the audio will cut out for about a second or two. Since this started I tried doing a factory reset and this seems to have helped a little, but I still get the occasional drop out. I have noticed this within the youtube, plex, and hulu apps. I don't believe this to be a bandwidth/wifi issue as it is running on my 5GHz band and is at most six feet away from the router.
I have also tried playing back the same content on my chromecast and I run into no issues at all.
I am considering doing a complete factory restore with the img available through google.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Notice it occasionally with plex. I have restored factory image already, did not make any difference for me.
Same issue here, except that I'm connected via 802.11ac instead of just 5GHz. Factory reset didn't do any good, nor did switching any of the streaming quality settings (within reason) or Direct Play/Direct Stream options in the Plex app. My Chromecast is 6" away from the Nexus Player (both of which are maybe 12' from my router) and is only using 802.11n, yet has no issues with any content/quality. Not a good thing! Hopefully a software update can fix it, and soon.
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Same issue here, except that I'm connected via 802.11ac instead of just 5GHz. Factory reset didn't do any good, nor did switching any of the streaming quality settings (within reason) or Direct Play/Direct Stream options in the Plex app. My Chromecast is 6" away from the Nexus Player (both of which are maybe 12' from my router) and is only using 802.11n, yet has no issues with any content/quality. Not a good thing! Hopefully a software update can fix it, and soon.
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I guess I forgot to mention. I actually am using 802.11ac across my 5GHz band. Still having issues, but my chromecast has none. I saw there is a new factory image (LRX21V) for the player so I am going to try to restore to it today and see if this helps.
Edit: I updated to latest version, still getting the same issue. Hopefully that can be addressed in a future update. I never would have thought that my chromecast would outperform my Nexus Player, but yet here we are.
Ah, okay - I gotcha. I had thought 802.11ac used both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands at the same time, so I thought when you specified 5GHz it meant you were just using 802.11n. I looked it up again and see that isn't the case. Doesn't really matter I guess, since if our Chromecasts are doing fine on 2.4GHz, the NP should have an even better connection regardless.
Sucks that even the latest software doesn't fix it I hope they iron it out soon, because a media player whose audio drops out on a regular basis is not a particularly good one. Might as well go with a Roku.
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Ah, okay - I gotcha. I had thought 802.11ac used both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands at the same time, so I thought when you specified 5GHz it meant you were just using 802.11n. I looked it up again and see that isn't the case. Doesn't really matter I guess, since if our Chromecasts are doing fine on 2.4GHz, the NP should have an even better connection regardless.
Sucks that even the latest software doesn't fix it I hope they iron it out soon, because a media player whose audio drops out on a regular basis is not a particularly good one. Might as well go with a Roku.
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FYI
I'm experiencing the same thing with Plex (plexpass version) over ethernet
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I'm experiencing the same thing with Plex (plexpass version) over ethernet
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Yea, sadly I didn't think it would be a networking issue. Hopefully we can get a new build pushed that will fully address this issue.
Mine drops pretty regularly in all apps. It's about once every 30 seconds. I have a 20ft optical cable coming out of my TV and I thought maybe there was some degradation going that far in optical. My other players don't have the problem though. I will try output to just TV and see if that still does it.
Maybe we have to RMA?
I have the same issue. It is in every app. I'm on my second Nexus Player. Both have audio drop out and sometimes i cannot get any sound at all.
I have the same issue with all apps. I RMA'd my first Nexus Player and got a new one; the new one has the same audio drop out issue. Except the new one also reboots pretty much once every couple minutes, too. :-/
I think this is some sort of HDMI connectivity issue. The issue becomes better or worse depending on the HDMI cable I use and the TV or receiver I plug it into on the other end. However, I tried 4 HDMI cables, and none was able to completely stop the audio drop out problem when connected between the Nexus Player and my receiver. The frequency is about once every minute or so and the receiver seems report no audio signal at these occurrences.
Multiple other devices have no issue with the same HDMI ports on my TV and receiver, including multiple chromecasts (which output great un-interrupted surround sound).
I actually like the AndroidTV OS, games etc., but the hardware problems are killing me.
Hopefully this isn't a hardware issue. I am praying that this will be fixed through a firmware update.
are you guys running hdmi through a receiver? I've had my player for about 2 weeks connected directly to my tv in the bedroom with no audio drop issues (at least non that I noticed). I put it in the living room lat night and connected to an HDMI input in my receiver and noticed the audio drops right away. About every 10-15 seconds. I messed with the plex stream settings and tried different apps and all did the same thing. connected to an HDMI input direct to my living room tv and watched an entire movie without issue. I pulled the HDMI cable from my bedroom tv and ran the player through it to my receiver. Audio drops are less frequent but still happening. Right now it seems like my receiver is the common factor in these audio drops. This is very disappointing as I was hoping to order another player to replace my HTPC in the living room. The streaming is great and high quality but the audio issue is a killer.
Same issue. Audio started disappearing in YouTube after a few minutes of play.
This is my second Nexus Player. Had to RMA the first one as I was having issues with the remote voice recognition.
Hate being a beta tester. Google should have done beta testing before releasing this commercially.
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Munkee915 said:
are you guys running hdmi through a receiver? I've had my player for about 2 weeks connected directly to my tv in the bedroom with no audio drop issues (at least non that I noticed). I put it in the living room lat night and connected to an HDMI input in my receiver and noticed the audio drops right away. About every 10-15 seconds. I messed with the plex stream settings and tried different apps and all did the same thing. connected to an HDMI input direct to my living room tv and watched an entire movie without issue. I pulled the HDMI cable from my bedroom tv and ran the player through it to my receiver. Audio drops are less frequent but still happening. Right now it seems like my receiver is the common factor in these audio drops. This is very disappointing as I was hoping to order another player to replace my HTPC in the living room. The streaming is great and high quality but the audio issue is a killer.
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Nope. Mine is connected directly to the TV. It's a good quality 4' HDMI cable, which I had never had problems with.
Munkee915 said:
are you guys running hdmi through a receiver? I've had my player for about 2 weeks connected directly to my tv in the bedroom with no audio drop issues (at least non that I noticed). I put it in the living room lat night and connected to an HDMI input in my receiver and noticed the audio drops right away. About every 10-15 seconds. I messed with the plex stream settings and tried different apps and all did the same thing. connected to an HDMI input direct to my living room tv and watched an entire movie without issue. I pulled the HDMI cable from my bedroom tv and ran the player through it to my receiver. Audio drops are less frequent but still happening. Right now it seems like my receiver is the common factor in these audio drops. This is very disappointing as I was hoping to order another player to replace my HTPC in the living room. The streaming is great and high quality but the audio issue is a killer.
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So I didn't even think to try running directly to my TV until you mentioned it. But now that I am I haven't noticed any audio drops. I am going to keep testing and I'll report back if I notice anything.
Seems very odd that the receiver would cause this issue.
It seems to be a combination of the cable and receiver for me. I tested a few of my cables and all had drops but some less frequent then others. However I did find one that seemed less prone. On first connection there were no drops after 30-40 min and I thought all was well. I disconnected the player to move it to its new home and reconnected the cable and noticed drops about every 2-3 min. disconnected the cable and reconnected, wiggled the cable a bit and secured the connections, did a dance with chicken bones and tried again. I now get no audio drops when watching video or playing games. I have noticed audio drops when clicking through menus though. The whole thing seems very random but I'll take this for now.
RMA until you get one that works.
Yup - had the same issue with the one I got from the first batch of orders. I tried factory reset, images, etc. No luck - I RMA'd it, got a replacement and no audio cut-out issues now. Same setup, configuration, etc.
- Shane
So after testing for a few days I haven't had any more audio dropout since switching from my receiver to directly into my TV. I still don't understand why this would make a difference, but it does seem to have fixed my issue.
I RMAd mine and should get the replacement today. I'll see how the new one does.
FWIW, still waiting on my replacement but I decided to try moving the NP to the input on my XBox One and see what happens. After 2 hours of testing I did not notice any audio drops when running through the XBOne to my receiver. This may end up being my solution in the end. The input was unused anyway and now I can run something new through the receiver's now empty input.
So the replacement came in. Hooked it direct to the receiver and right away I noticed audio drops. However, once i had it setup and some apps installed I have it a test. Played a few youtube vids, pandora, plex vids. No audio drops while playing anything. moved the player around. Even disconnected and reconnected the hdmi cable a few times. Still no audio drops while any media is playing. This is good. I did notice audio drop out while moving through menus. Particularly if i stopped moving the cursor for a second or 2, the next click produced no audio, but if i moved the cursor around in rapid succession there are no audio drops. It seems that as long as there's a steady stream of audio coming from the player I see no audio issues. I will give it a better test run later tonight and watch a few shows on Plex and see how it does.

[Q] Netflix - no picture, but sound (hdcp?)?

Hi,
I have an appleTV and an Amazon Fire Stick, and the Nexus Player. All 3 are routed through my Yamaha RX-v3900 amp and then to the TV.
The AppleTV and the Amazon Fire stick both display netflix without issue. The Nexus displays all menus, but when you start playing content, the screen goes blank and you only get audio.
If I connect the Nexus directly to the TV, it plays fine.
I suspect this is an hdcp issue. I've called Google's support line. They suggested unplugging the Nexus, unplugging the amp, unplugging the TV. None of these steps worked. Although, unplugging the nexus caused Netflix not to be able to connect to it's servers, and the app had to be uninstalled and re-installed to get back the menu level.
Anybody else seeing this? Any thoughts on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Jim
jbresee said:
Hi,
I have an appleTV and an Amazon Fire Stick, and the Nexus Player. All 3 are routed through my Yamaha RX-v3900 amp and then to the TV.
The AppleTV and the Amazon Fire stick both display netflix without issue. The Nexus displays all menus, but when you start playing content, the screen goes blank and you only get audio.
If I connect the Nexus directly to the TV, it plays fine.
I suspect this is an hdcp issue. I've called Google's support line. They suggested unplugging the Nexus, unplugging the amp, unplugging the TV. None of these steps worked. Although, unplugging the nexus caused Netflix not to be able to connect to it's servers, and the app had to be uninstalled and re-installed to get back the menu level.
Anybody else seeing this? Any thoughts on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Jim
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Not that this is all that practical but maybe swap out the amp for an hdcp compliant one? (I think that is a thing since it's passing through hdcp signals)
the netflix app for the player has HORRID HDCP compliance.. i returned mine because of this.. the app is just screwed if you dont have a very simplistic setup.. anything at all between the tv and the player will cause it to not function correctly.
HDCP
Xenosis said:
Not that this is all that practical but maybe swap out the amp for an hdcp compliant one? (I think that is a thing since it's passing through hdcp signals)
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This amp is HDCP compliant. There is a bug in the Way nexus player handles HDCP with certain amps.
Yeah, the Amazon firestick and AppleTV both play through the Yamaha 3900 without HDCP issues, so the problem is with the Nexus player, or at least the Netflix implementation on the Nexus player. I'm also back to having resolution issues. Compared to both the fireTV and the AppleTV, the Nexus Player looks like crap.
I have no problem using the NP with my pioneer amp... Have you tried different inputs on the amp or different cables?
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jbresee said:
Hi,
I have an appleTV and an Amazon Fire Stick, and the Nexus Player. All 3 are routed through my Yamaha RX-v3900 amp and then to the TV.
The AppleTV and the Amazon Fire stick both display netflix without issue. The Nexus displays all menus, but when you start playing content, the screen goes blank and you only get audio.
If I connect the Nexus directly to the TV, it plays fine.
I suspect this is an hdcp issue. I've called Google's support line. They suggested unplugging the Nexus, unplugging the amp, unplugging the TV. None of these steps worked. Although, unplugging the nexus caused Netflix not to be able to connect to it's servers, and the app had to be uninstalled and re-installed to get back the menu level.
Anybody else seeing this? Any thoughts on how to proceed?
Thanks,
Jim
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I've had the exact same issue, it's the length of the HDMI cables. I use a 5 to 1 switch. Once I removed the Nexus Player and plugged it directly into the TV (3ft HDMI cable), it worked perfectly. My Logitech Revue had no issues, my raspberry pi and Chromecast also don't have any challenges. Seems the opamps for the NP might be a little weak (speculating).
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Same exact issue here.
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V675
-Firmware 1.6 (up to date)
Netflix plays audio but no picture, youtube plays but is choppy.
TV shows resolution as 576p.
Alternate thread describing issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/help/low-resolution-receiver-t2940767
None of these issues are apparent when the player is connected directly to the tv.
Unfortunately this isn't a very good work around for me as my tv's digital audio out doesn't seems to perform well with my receiver. (cheap tv, seiki)
The issue seems isolated to the Nexus player as Chromecast and roku work perfectly through receiver. (Guess i won't be replacing them both with this device as soon as i hoped)
Sounds like hdcp, hopefully google pushes an update or a patch is discovered soon.
killerb7854 said:
Same exact issue here.
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V675
-Firmware 1.6 (up to date)
Netflix plays audio but no picture, youtube plays but is choppy.
TV shows resolution as 576p.
Alternate thread describing issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/help/low-resolution-receiver-t2940767
None of these issues are apparent when the player is connected directly to the tv.
Unfortunately this isn't a very good work around for me as my tv's digital audio out doesn't seems to perform well with my receiver. (cheap tv, seiki)
The issue seems isolated to the Nexus player as Chromecast and roku work perfectly through receiver. (Guess i won't be replacing them both with this device as soon as i hoped)
Sounds like hdcp, hopefully google pushes an update or a patch is discovered soon.
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Excellent summary, BUT we can also add Google Movies & TV to the list. I get the exact same symptoms using a hdmi switch as I do with Netflix. Again, only direct connect works, all other devices (Chromecast, Raspberry Pi, Google TV, PS3) I run work just fine (even with Netflix & G Movie&TV.
Happy New Year!!
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I assume you all are still experiencing this issue? I just purchased a NP and have the same issues with both Netflix and Google Play Movies. However, YouTube and Hulu play just fine. I have short high speed HDMI cables (very good quality ones) . I use a Denon 2000 receiver. Chromecast and ATV works well. I can't connect directly to the TV as a work around (that's another story)
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I assume you all are still experiencing this issue? I just purchased a NP and have the same issues with both Netflix and Google Play Movies. However, YouTube and Hulu play just fine. I have short high speed HDMI cables (very good quality ones) . I use a Denon 2000 receiver. Chromecast and ATV works well. I can't connect directly to the TV as a work around (that's another story)
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I figured out my issue. It was my directv box causing the issue. For some reason, it triggered the hdcp security on it for copy protected channels like hbo and showtime. It wouldn't let me play anything on those channels. The directv box was connected to the same receiver as the Nexus player. So, I reset the directv box and I was able to see my hbo and showtime TV again. When I tried to view videos on the NP via Google Play Movies and Netflix, it was working fine again ☺
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I figured out my issue. It was my directv box causing the issue. For some reason, it triggered the hdcp security on it for copy protected channels like hbo and showtime. It wouldn't let me play anything on those channels. The directv box was connected to the same receiver as the Nexus player. So, I reset the directv box and I was able to see my hbo and showtime TV again. When I tried to view videos on the NP via Google Play Movies and Netflix, it was working fine again
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bummer... I pulled power on everything. Then left the directv box off and powered everything up. Still can't get netflix to show a picture on the nexus player.
jbresee said:
bummer... I pulled power on everything. Then left the directv box off and powered everything up. Still can't get netflix to show a picture on the nexus player.
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That didn't work for me either. I had to actually hit the reset button on the directv box (the red reset button). Try that
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Ok - did the reset button on the Directv, replaced all cables with shorter cables. Nada.
I finally routed the Nexus Player directly to the TV (works), then put a toslink opitcal out from the TV to the amp. Seems to be working, but it makes setting up to watch Android TV a PITA.
I wish they would fix the Nexus Player, but this is a decent work around.
Working now!
Looks like a recent update fixed this for me! Decided to try it today after noticing there was a new plex (not plex pass) app and realized that I hadn't tried through my receiver in a while. Connected it back up to my yamaha receiver and to my surprise, everything is working great! Netflix, google movies and the plex app connected through my receiver, audio AND video coming through as expected. Even the GUI Menu is showing the proper 1080p resolution.
Looks like I may finally be able to replace my roku/chromecast with the nexus.
Your mileage may vary but check your nexus to make sure it's up to date and give it another go!
Note: I am fairly confident an update was the fix as it was the only change to my setup. Simply plugged it in with the same cables/connections as my previous testing.
Good to hear! I was hoping for more stability with Netflix on the NP before I pull the trigger.
How about Dolby Digital/5.1 surround from Netflix? I read previously it only outputs in 2.0 stereo.
Thanks!
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Looks like a recent update fixed this for me! Decided to try it today after noticing there was a new plex (not plex pass) app and realized that I hadn't tried through my receiver in a while. Connected it back up to my yamaha receiver and to my surprise, everything is working great! Netflix, google movies and the plex app connected through my receiver, audio AND video coming through as expected. Even the GUI Menu is showing the proper 1080p resolution.
Looks like I may finally be able to replace my roku/chromecast with the nexus.
Your mileage may vary but check your nexus to make sure it's up to date and give it another go!
Note: I am fairly confident an update was the fix as it was the only change to my setup. Simply plugged it in with the same cables/connections as my previous testing.
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latest update fixed my netflix issue as well....
I now can watch netflix going through my Yamaha amp. Yeah!

Nvidia Shield TV Console & Router settings?

I got my Shield tv console delivered yesterday, (late as possible damn ups) and love it so far, haven't had enough time to play more, but after work today I will. I have an asus rtac68w, which according to nvidia is a held ready router, but I need to know what and how to set up my router to optimally perform for my shield tv and streaming.
Any help people?
The Shield is like any tablet or smartphone. There is nothing "special" to set up in the router for it
It's just highly recommended to use a wired connection for the Shield but have wifi configured too because they're known bugs with current firmware when the network isn't wifi. So sometimes you need to switch to wifi to do some stuff then back to wired for optimal performance. They'll fix this later I guess.
ps: go there : https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/159/ instead of XDA, you'll find official NVidia reps. XDA is ignoring the Shield Android TV so let's us leave.
Basically, to set it up best; Connect it to ethernet that goes straight into the router. That said, You want to make sure it connects to your 5GHz network, that your 5GHz network does not have legacy support enabled (AC only if possible with no N or A support). WMM and BeamForming is helpful sometimes. Those are the basics.
So, whatever you would do to optimize your WiFi for GameStream or GRID on the Shield Tablet or Shield Portable, you could do the same things here, plus the option of straight gigabit ethernet.
I hadn't heard of the issues with the Wired ethernet personally, hopefully they fix that pretty quickly. It may be specific to certain environments or other issues. Also, I know that the controllers use WiFi-Direct (rather than BT), however anything with that causing part of the networking fails would be pure speculation on my part.
I haven't had any issues with Ethernet
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Also, I know that the controllers use WiFi-Direct (rather than BT), however anything with that causing part of the networking fails would be pure speculation on my part.
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Actually it's the wired connection that 'might' mess with the initial controler pairing:
from a NVidia rep:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/836884/?comment=4546797
If you are unable to pair your SHIELD Wireless Controller during initial setup and your SHIELD Android TV is connected to your network over ethernet, try temporarily disconnecting your ethernet cable to go into WiFi mode and check if pairing issue is fixed.
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I haven't had problems either hardworking the console or using the Shield Tablet in console mode and using a Micro USB ethernet connector to hardwire the tablet. I must say that I get less lag streaming games in 4K from my PC using the console vs the tablet. I just wish I could sideload Amazon Prime Instant Video and M-Go so I could stream whatever 4K video content they offer besides only Netflix and YouTube video in 4K. No studdering, no buffering, just good quality 4K video from this thing. I must say, this console could have a major impact over how games could be delivered in the future. No latency at all except 1st person shooters being streamed via Grid. This is the best device I've bought in a long time.
I had some issues with DHCP when first setting up my unit on a wired connection. It kept disconnecting from the internet even when showing a connection. I set up my IP manually and updated to 1.2 and have had no issues since...it is super fast but may still setup wifi as you said just incase.
Rolldog said:
I haven't had problems either hardworking the console or using the Shield Tablet in console mode and using a Micro USB ethernet connector to hardwire the tablet. I must say that I get less lag streaming games in 4K from my PC using the console vs the tablet. I just wish I could sideload Amazon Prime Instant Video and M-Go so I could stream whatever 4K video content they offer besides only Netflix and YouTube video in 4K. No studdering, no buffering, just good quality 4K video from this thing. I must say, this console could have a major impact over how games could be delivered in the future. No latency at all except 1st person shooters being streamed via Grid. This is the best device I've bought in a long time.
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What happens when you side load Amazon video and M-Go? I was able to side load a bunch of apps (including M-go but didn't run it yet) from my rooted samsung Note 2014 by backing up my apps with Titanium to the micro sd. I then moved the micro sd to the Shield TV and used ES File Explorer to auto open some of the zips that contained the APK and installed from there. From my memory, since I'm not at home to check what else I side loaded, I have the following working so far:
Chrome Browser
Dolphin Browser
Dropbox
Google Drive
Popcorn
Showbox
Helium
Facebook
Hulu Plus
Photo Circle
Speedtest
Ppsspp
And jut tested m-go
I'll add that when I first set up the Pro yesterday on a wired connection, it had all sorts of problems -- including not being able to download the update. Had to go wireless to get the update, but by that point it was acting so strange I did a full factory reset right after. (1.0 seemed quite buggy, but 1.2 feels fantastic so far. HUGE strides!). Haven't had problems since.
kgersen said:
The Shield is like any tablet or smartphone. There is nothing "special" to set up in the router for it
It's just highly recommended to use a wired connection for the Shield but have wifi configured too because they're known bugs with current firmware when the network isn't wifi. So sometimes you need to switch to wifi to do some stuff then back to wired for optimal performance. They'll fix this later I guess.
ps: go there : https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/159/ instead of XDA, you'll find official NVidia reps. XDA is ignoring the Shield Android TV so let's us leave.
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The only problem I have with the GeForce forum is there is no way to be notified if you get a reply from anyone. Is there any work around for this?
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The only problem I have with the GeForce forum is there is no way to be notified if you get a reply from anyone. Is there any work around for this?
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not that I know of. The NVidia forum software is very old and bad, everyone agree on that.
I use Feedly and a RSS subscription to monitor the GeForce forum, it's a bit easier.
I have Amazon Prime Video sideloaded, and it works great. Unfortunately, I think a different version utilizes UHD video because I haven't been able to find any 4K content. Netflix and YouTube have some 4K content, and I've been able to stream some games in 4K, but until the UHD content providers start releasing their content to more devices instead of them signing exclusivity contracts (Samsung) to help them offset the royalties on the H.265 content, which is quadruple what H.264 was, I think most people will be limited on 4K content. Sucks.....

Nexus Player vs Chromecast 2015

Hello
Does the nexus player have all Chromecast features? I mean can i stream my files from my phone to the nexus player? The new Chromecast had improvements in streaming speed, so which device is faster?
Sorry for my english
I've used both. On WiFi they are the same speed, however both work faster when plugged into Ethernet.
For the price, nexus player has many many more features, well worth the additional $15
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I've used both. On WiFi they are the same speed, however both work faster when plugged into Ethernet.
For the price, nexus player has many many more features, well worth the additional $15
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Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
This will work fine
Can't get much simpler and reviews are good enough.
Get A 5 Port Ethernet Adapter Always
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Here you go
guy, the beast, always get a 5 port Ethernet adapter, also you will need a OTG cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D8K3GGO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 !
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Can you recommend an ethernet adapter that works well with the NP? TIA!
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This is the one I bought. Works fine for me!
http://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Gigabit-Ethernet-Converter-Network/dp/B00IJU0K2Q
I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
whmaurer said:
I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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The thing about it is, a new Chromecast is $35, though I've seen it for $30 on sale recently. I've seen the nexus player on sale for $40 at a few places. For the extra $10, the nexus player does much more than the Chromecast, and can function essentially the same as a Chromecast, save for the HBO now app.
Also I perceive casting to the NP is much quicker than my Chromecast on wifi. It's a stronger machine.
For those of you suggesting the RJ45 + USB3.0 hubs, isnt the microUSB port on the back of the NP just a usb2.0 connection? Does adding a USB3.0 hub for expanded memory actually do anything since it should be throttled down to 2.0 speeds at the back of the NP? Or should we just look at getting a 2.0 hub and save a few extra $$$?
Im asking because Im currently looking into my options to expand my memory now that Android6.0 has hit our devices.
Correct, its only 2.0 speed. Save some money. No reason the adapter should cost more than the NP.
whmaurer said:
I like my NP, but I think it's unfair to simply assert that NP wins because "it does everything that Chromecast does." The NP has great features that the Chromecast doesn't (onscreen UI, remote, gaming, etc.) have; if you want those features, the NP is great (but probably not as good as other products on the market with bigger app ecosystems, like Fire TV or Roku). If casting video content is your top priority, it's worth noting that the NP does not perform as well as Chromecast as a Google Cast device. The two main issues are:
1. My NP (on my main TC) doesn't always show up as a castable device, even when my Chromecast (bedroom TV) appears without issue.
2. It turns out that some Chromecast-compatible apps do NOT support Google Cast on the NP, as was the case with the HBO Now app that was released a couple of months ago. This is pretty rare, and basically every other cast-enabled app I've used seems to support both Chromecast and the NP, but the HBO Now debacle (when combined with #1) clearly suggests that the Google Cast implementation on the NP differs from what we see on Chromecast.
In addition to Cast issues, I've experienced a lot of bugs/crashes/etc. with my NP. Things on my NP seem to be stabilizing, but it's clear to me that Chromecast is a more mature and stable product at the moment. Given that so many more people own Chromecasts than NPs, updating Chromecast will probably remain Google's higher priority.
Overall, I'm still happy with my NP, but it's still a work in progress. I'm not sure that I'd recommend it over Roku or Fire TV (or even Apple TV) for people looking to add smart features/apps to their TV... and if you're looking for a cheap way to watch Netflix on your TV, you can't really beat Chromecast.
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I would've said the same, prior to the Marshmallow upgrade; whether the Cast icon would appear in Cast enabled apps was a matter of pure luck, as well as the "cast screen to" feature on Android devices. I got a lot of Cast connection losses as well, while the content was then still playing on the TV, without any possibility to control it (other than stopping it via the Nexus Player remote).
But all of those issues are fixed now with the Marshmallow upgrade (and I guess the various Google Cast Receiver app updates, that have been released since then).
The one thing that I find absolutely unacceptable is the following fact which you have mentioned as well: That the Nexus Player seems to be a 2nd class Google Cast device, which is e.g. not supported by Spotify, while working perfectly fine on Chromecasts. Google is allowing fragmentation of their Cast ecosystem because of this and this might be the beginning of the end of its acceptance, especially when it comes to Smart TVs that are shipped with Android TV and for which all companies involved are especially advertising the Cast functionality.
To the user who mentioned that both, the Nexus Player and the Chromecast are loading/streaming faster over Ethernet than over Wi-Fi: I strongly doubt that this is the case, especially since, as mentioned above, the available Ethernet adapters are only USB 2.0 capable. If you're talking about an Nvidia Shield TV I'd believe you, since that one supports Gigabit Ethernet natively, but regarding Chromecasts and Nexus Players... maybe if your wi-fi is horrible or you're using 2.4GHz wi-fi only... otherwise...no, not at all.
Anyway, since the original question was something like "Chromecast vs. Nexus Player": I have both, and I fully replaced my Chromecast with my Nexus Player since I have found that it makes the Chromecast redundant.
Some advantages of the Chromecast that should be considered:
-It's perfectly suited for taking it with you when traveling, while the Nexus Player is more of a fixed device that you set up once, connect it to your TV and leave it there.
- The Chromecast might reboot a couple of seconds faster than the Nexus Player, in case you shut off your devices often.
- The Chromecast allows you to adjust the backdrop e.g. with weather data and specific background images; the similar looking stock-backdrop of the Nexus Player cannot be modified at all.
- The Nexus Player wants you to sign into a specific Google account, whereas the Chromecast only requires you to set up a wi-fi.
- Chromecast doesn't need a wall socket and can be powered by your TV's USB port (even though using a real power adapter is recommended due to stability reasons).
- As mentioned, Chromecast isn't treated as a 2nd class Cast device by e.g. HBO (lol) and Spotify.
- You won't have to deal with yet another remote control in addition to your TV's, your audio system's and what-not remote controls, if using a Chromecast
- Google so far hasn't dared to release a firmware upgrade for the Chromecast which increases the brightness to a bazillion % and causes all blacks to look washed-out as hell.
I'm not gonna mention any advantages of the Nexus Player here as I've already said that I, personally, prefer the Nexus Player; I think it comes down to personal preferences regarding the above-points. Some things might be more important to some people, while others aren't, the same goes for what compromises are acceptable to the specific user.
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Correct, its only 2.0 speed. Save some money. No reason the adapter should cost more than the NP.
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Only problem is there are no USB 2.0 ethernet adapters that also have USB passthrough.
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Only problem is there are no USB 2.0 ethernet adapters that also have USB passthrough.
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I don't quite know what you mean? I have a 2.0 USB hub\ethernet hybrid plugged into my nexus players. It gives me 3 full size USB ports and Ethernet.
Anywhere I have searched didn't have a plethora of USB 2.0 hubs with ethernet that were that much cheaper than the 3.0 models.
I don't see the point of an ethernet adapter for the Nexus Player any way, the theoretical speed limit of USB 2.0 is 480mbps which equal 60MBps meaning that you are throttling yourself compared to your WiFi speed.
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Anywhere I have searched didn't have a plethora of USB 2.0 hubs with ethernet that were that much cheaper than the 3.0 models.
I don't see the point of an ethernet adapter for the Nexus Player any way, the theoretical speed limit of USB 2.0 is 480mbps which equal 60MBps meaning that you are throttling yourself compared to your WiFi speed.
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And realistically you would be lucky to get even half that 60 MBps speeds on the 2.0 port. Chances are your only seeing about 25-30, and a Ethernet port adapter has to share the data with all the other devices you may have plugged into the hub as well. The WiFi AC is every bit 5-10 faster than the USB port on this device. The Ethernet adapter idea is only reasonable if that is all you have for a connection. Otherwise your 5ghz N or AC will blow away the USB port, depending on your network and internet speeds of course.
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And realistically you would be lucky to get even half that 60 MBps speeds on the 2.0 port. Chances are your only seeing about 25-30, and a Ethernet port adapter has to share the data with all the other devices you may have plugged into the hub as well. The WiFi AC is every bit 5-10 faster than the USB port on this device. The Ethernet adapter idea is only reasonable if that is all you have for a connection. Otherwise your 5ghz N or AC will blow away the USB port, depending on your network and internet speeds of course.
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All I can tell you is this. On my 5ghz WiFi, nighthawk ac1900 router, I will get occasional drops and hiccups streaming my uncompressed bluray rips, and on occasion streaming from my HDHomerun Prime. When over WiFi, I get none of those issues ever. It's just a more reliable connection. Downloading from the Play store, the WiFi wins, however streaming a 2 hour movie (30gigs), the hard wire connection will give me a flawless performance. It just takes a few seconds of WiFi interference to interrupt a movie or good football game on TV.
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All I can tell you is this. On my 5ghz WiFi, nighthawk ac1900 router, I will get occasional drops and hiccups streaming my uncompressed bluray rips, and on occasion streaming from my HDHomerun Prime. When over WiFi, I get none of those issues ever. It's just a more reliable connection. Downloading from the Play store, the WiFi wins, however streaming a 2 hour movie (30gigs), the hard wire connection will give me a flawless performance. It just takes a few seconds of WiFi interference to interrupt a movie or good football game on TV.
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Your WiFi should have big enough buffer to handle a few seconds of WiFi interference... Never had a single problem on a Chromecast wireless in a highly congested 2.4GHz area....
The Chromecast app from Google in the Google PlayStore doesn't even detect my Google Nexus Player (on the same wifi network).
The "Video & TV Cast | Nexus Player" app does. The developer for that app has a separate version for Nexus Player, Chromecast device, Samsung TV, etc.
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The Chromecast app from Google in the Google PlayStore doesn't even detect my Google Nexus Player (on the same wifi network).
The "Video & TV Cast | Nexus Player" app does. The developer for that app has a separate version for Nexus Player, Chromecast device, Samsung TV, etc.
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I'm not sure why the Chromecast app would ever need to detect your NP. It's not like you could use that app to configure it.
Maybe it was just my assumption that the Google Nexus Player (which supports casting) would use the Chromecast protocol(?) from Google.
Apparently, there is also a Googlecast protocol that is different from Chromecast?
My Samsung phone has it's own casting protocol that works great with my Samsung HDTV.
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