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Battery reduces charge only by 10s%

After the 1st full charge, the reported battery charge is available only in 10s%. i.e. 100%-90%-80% etc.
All the intermediate values are ommited.
Anyone with similar problem?
Any solution?

Welcome aboard, Christo...
...but please, next time, do a search in the fora before asking.
It has been discussed many times and, although [IMHO] it is indeed a problem, there doesn't seem to exist a solution -yet. Supposedly, it's just the normal behaviour...
-s.

Well...
I emailed HTC with this problem and they replied me with "this is the memory effect for batteries 6 months old or older" - Crap.
I asked them to replace the battery. :wink:
Still waiting for reply.
The truth is that after the above mentioned situation I guessed that I had a unique problem, and that's why I did not search the forum. Sorry... :?

I got HTC's reply. They claim that this is the normal behaviour. :evil:

It might be "normal behaviour", but we would still like to change it!

Mine's doing this right out of the box (from the first charge). Maybe HTC are using cheaper voltage detection circuitry... grumble

The funny thing is that I am absolutely sure that it worked normally, showing all the values, before the first charge. :?:

My Vario II (Tytn) has only ever decreased in 10 percent intervals, right from new.
I expect there is some sort of programming or hardware shortcut HTC have taken which has resulted in this as I guess they didn't think too many people would consider it a problem.
I have to say I would prefer it to measure the percentage precisely, like it used to do on my XDA Mini S (Wizard).
Hopefully, if it is software related (sorry, I am not techy enough to know whether it is most likely to be software or hardware) then may be a future update will change it back to 1 percent intervals.

I'm sure that it isnt a problem of memory effect of the battery, because my battery has one weeks and the battery meter decrease 10%s at time.
But... I'm sure... the first time I have seen the battery... charge for the 98% or 89%...
After... I have installed many software on my device... and I dont know if one of them may interfere with the battery indicator.
The strange thing is the time with the battery meter refresh when I push on my device from the stand by... each time it ask again some second to display the exact quantity of battery residual.
Bye
Stefano

Isn't there any chance the next rom release might correct this 10% decay thing to a 5% decay or a realtime 1%?

I dont know... but, I would like understand if this problem affect all the Hermes200...
Bye
Stefano

Another Jasjar Battery Drain Problem!

Hi all, i have developed this weird problem in my jasjar and i'm sure it's some settings that need to be changed somewhere and not the battery itself. When i first got the jasjar, it gave me a good 48 hours battery backup on standard use but i lost my charger and started using usb to charge it. it's since then that my jasjar drains the battery in less than 12 hours. i have tried replacing 3 batteries but to no better effect. I remember reading something about the Li ion polymer batteries having the memory effect or something and how to reset that in the bootloader mode. if you guys could help me figure it out and fix the problem, i'd appreciate it! here's the details of my rom.
R:1.13.00
G:42.47.p8
D 2.01.06 wwe
the rom is the wm6 from jwright.
(nb: i had the same problem with my shipped wm5 rom and i thought upgrading it would help but it didnt apparently).
How long do i need to use the battery to check the drain thingy. the reseller tells me to use it for 2 weeks before judging it. i'm screwed with having no battery life to this otherwise beauty of a device! if i could get any help, it would be much appreciated. thanks in advance. (josh).

Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. no i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it workes.

Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.

awright...i'd try it. thanks for ur help.
mayer said:
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
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thanks..

I too has a similar problem but this method did not solved my prob as my jasjar switches off by itself at 40%.

I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago as a charge would last less than 24 hours when I used to be able to last 2-3 days.
Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike

Had my MDA PRO for 1.5 years, and never had this problem. Battery lasted for 2-4 days on average, although now I have a 3200mAH battery it lasts for well over a week on a single charge
Lithium ION and Lithium ION Polymer (the HTC Universal uses the latter) do not suffer from any "memory effect". The only battery type that does to any significant extent is Nickel Cadmium, which is rarely used these days.
It's also impossible (well, almost) to completely discharge Lithium ION Polymer batteries - internal circuitry in the battery shuts down the cells when the charge gets too low, at up to 10% charge. This is because a completely discharged L.I.P. battery becomes unstable, broken (unable to be recharged), and runs the risk of explosion or leaking in this state. So don't attempt to drain those batteries completely dry folks - it's dangerous! Letting them run down naturally in your Universal should be safe though because of the cut-out mentioned above.
Maybe the Uni just has a large batch of bad batteries? You should also check what apps you have running on it all the time, and how often you use bluetooth and wi-fi - these two REALLY drain the battery if you keep them on all the time... Also try MemMaid, this is great at cleaning up your notifications queue, which is where lots of apps leave old and obsolete entries clogging it up.

I have the same problem. I do not know where the charger is, so I am always using the USB while syncing. I also tried 2 batteries, but they both last about 12 - 14 hours. Maybe it is caused by WM6.
I did not quite get this solution:
"Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike"
What is the solution?

2 421....:
sorry for lang. the above understands(i hope)
nastavenia(settings)/napajeni(power)/rozsireni(advanced) tam zaskrtnes co xces a nastavis casy. ak pouzivas phonealarm musis aj tam. pozri si aj podsvirtenie(backlight).
btw aj had the same prob. appeared after 6mnth. i bought new battery. btw here is several threads with same prob. try 2 look for solutions there(imho its only one-new batt.)

I feel like I'm walking on eggs...I bought my Jasjar used on eBay just over a year ago, still the original battery. I almost never use the 110v charger, always a USB conection with my Mac, often recharging at 55-75%. I just intentionally ran down my battery to 18% (got warnings to recharge), and recharge via USB/Mac again. It took me almost 4 days to get to 18%, and Bluetooth is constantly on for ready use with my earpiece.
Curious: are the problems with original or replacement batteries? Cheers,

Update to Radio 115 or 114

It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.

IMHO even if u charge with a full charged battery still u get a prob so i think its a common issue with the jasjar and its power managment software itself by default as lot of people with diffrent ROMs are complaining about it.

no changes...
well, folks, i tried all these gimmicks but not to any definite changes ... i guess i need to consult the service center guys at last...i didn't want to do that but i guess i need to. i'm sure it's not my battery as i've replaced 3 of them...i dont kno what else to do!!! thanks for ur posts tho as i get to try diff things to check if ma battery is doing ok...keep postin...thanks...
josh.

how 2 discharge a battery >>>>>

problem with battery?
I have the same problem, it firs appear on original battery when charge was 40-50% so I have bought the same battery model (1620mAh). But it doesn't help. Now I,m using the 3200mAh battery and it doesn't help as well. The thing is that XDA switch off it self always on deferent charge level (sometimes is on 20%, 45% ar 80%...so is very difficult predict when it happen again). And one more thing...when it switch-off and I try to switch-on back, I can't (keep switching off), only slolution is put on charger!!!
I have downloaded the service manual (I think called "confidential") and it mentioned that it could be a problem with main board (so its HW problem). So can anybody tell me is a problem with bat or MB? (replacing the MB is fcjfdj$#ing expansive). Thanx.

well if your XDA does not switch on until you start charging it that's a clear indication that your battery is empty. I have the same with my faulty battery. Replaced it by a working one and it's fixed. Something is definately messed up with the charging circuit or the batteries though. They are not supposed to die so easily.

SpyderTracks said:
It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
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The first time I flashed the PDA I ruined my battery. This time I thought I'd be smart and I put in the old battery while flashing. After flashing I put back the new battery and now that one is broken too! It wasn't even in the PDA when I flashed it. How bizarre is that?
I have to admit I did not fully charge that new battery before flashing, but I figured it would be safe since it wasn;t in while flashing. The battery worked fine the day before I flashed my phone (got the "charge now or save your work" message), but after the flashing and putting it in, it just crashes at around 30% or 40%. The usual battery misery.
Maybe I should try fully charging it and then flashing again. Trouble would be how to get it fully charged though. I always felt charging cuts off early on the "broken" batteries (pull the charge plug and stick it back and it charges for a while again).

I managed to restore my battery to good health by completely discharging it in bootloader mode.
First I completely charged it. When the led went green I pulled the shcarge cable and connected it back again. After doing this a few times it doesn't stay orange so long and then I stopped and left the cable disconnected.
I reset the phone (on full battery) and then I set the unit to boatloader and waited for it to completely discharge. I reset the phone again (on empty battery) and low and behold my trusty "charge now or lose data" warning came back.
BTW I reset the PDA hoping maybe it would store the power levels. I remember that trick from my Palm days where sometimes you had to reset a PDA on full battery to calibrate it.
I charged it back to full capacity and started using the phone as normal. When the battery was empty I got no crash but a friendly warning telling me my battery was going low. Phew.
Will try the same with my other troubled battery over the weekend.

I have the same Issue.But , I think it's about Rom.
and I'm try a lot of ROM version ,only one Version canbe use more than 3 day.
I can't find any reason ,.
discharge in bootloader ,I do it ,But battiery is same time for used.

My battery status always showing 100% - help!

Hi!
Just changed to a new 3rd-party battery and I was told to charge it for 10hrs before use. So I did. I left it overnight and guess what?
Now, I my battery status always showing at 100% - never drop even after hours of using. I even took out the battery and put it back but it still remains at 100%
Short of hard resetting is there any way to modify the registry setting temporary to get rid of this nuisance
Any help? Thanks

This has been dealt with on the Universal Accessories part of the forum - search there and you will see a long discussion about. You probably have a duff battery.

FOSA said:
Hi!
Just changed to a new 3rd-party battery and I was told to charge it for 10hrs before use. So I did. I left it overnight and guess what?
Now, I my battery status always showing at 100% - never drop even after hours of using. I even took out the battery and put it back but it still remains at 100%
Short of hard resetting is there any way to modify the registry setting temporary to get rid of this nuisance
Any help? Thanks
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Is it a Cameron Sino battery? I've had 3 and they all do this. I think it's just a fault with their batteries.
Cheers,
Steve.

My advice to you is to get an extended battery.
I had problems with all the generic batteries (even the ones that look like the original).
As soon as I got an extended battery, all the issues went away.
It's big, ugly and expensive, but at least I can use the Universal for another year until the batteries start developing problems again.

modem_man said:
My advice to you is to get an extended battery.
I had problems with all the generic batteries (even the ones that look like the original).
As soon as I got an extended battery, all the issues went away.
It's big, ugly and expensive, but at least I can use the Universal for another year until the batteries start developing problems again.
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Or simply get hold of an original battery - they work fine.

RE
Hi!
You all are right. I took my previous battery and it does show the correct status.
My new battery still can be used but I just make sure I charge it every night just in case
Thanks for the advices

Have the Same Problem with my XDA,have the original ?? & a spare battery,the same on both,Can someone post a Picture of the original battery for the o2 Exec for me ,so that I can Compare? Never know when my Exec will die on me.Thanks

Blackstone Battery Problem %%%

Hello guys i havae some problem with my Blackstone i use it from 2.5 years and i never had problem like this so..
Now when i recharging my device always stay on same % for example even for 1 hour its show always 20% or 50% or anything depends when i put it on the charger..
After restart can show 100% full or anything.. so i found out that the indicator absolutly do not work so if i restart it and show me the real % for example 50% the device always will show 50% battery untill the battery is fully discharged..
And right now i dont know how much Batterry i have and when will need to recharge..
I don`t know but i think this is a battery problem? i use this battery from the begining i mean from more than 2.5 years and maybe is time to change it?! but this heppand when i drop my device once on the floor so do thee is posible by droping the device some senzor to be broken or this is not posible i mean its a battery problem and i will need to buy new one?! or give me some idea how to test this and fix it.
Now no matter that the indicator do not work i still can use my device 1-2 days with one charge even if always show 20% this mean that in the battery itself have power for 2 days conversation internet and etc.. but just do not shown right.
Do anyone of you had the same problem ? and how do you fix it?
Also im looking to buy battery from ebay and i found today this :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-TOUCH-HD-...ultDomain_3&hash=item4aa9446824#ht_3230wt_905
What you think about this battery ? or can someone who already bought battery from ebay point me to get some good one
I read in the Diamond forum that peoples expirience the same problem with the indicator and even after Hard Reset or flashing new ROM the problem is still there.. so if this is right then i dont have reason to Flash again my device if the problem will be still here.
Any Suggestions?
Thanks

I did some tests... so i fully discharge the battery and i saw that even when the battery was on 0% and always the Warning appear i was able to play with the the Device with Wi Fi ON and Games and Music around 45 minutes wow.. this mean that the battery somehow was not calibratet and when its shows 0% in her still have around 30 40 % so after fully discharge the battery till the device Turn OFF by itself then few times turn it ON till there is not enought power even the WinMo to Startup i put it while OFF on the Charger and i was able to recharg to 100% and the light become green this mean the senzor itself work maybe just the battery need calibration again.
Now will see do the indicator work corectly after few more recharges and will write here for peoples who have the same problems in the future

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hi dude, i think you should simply buy a new battery, but preferably an official htc battery - rather than the unofficial gold one you have posted a link to on ebay.
if you do decide to buy a new battery then put the new battery into your blackstone and charge while device is turned off.
this should fix your problem
Rn

raving_nanza said:
hi dude, i think you should simply buy a new battery, but preferably an official htc battery - rather than the unofficial gold one you have posted a link to on ebay.
if you do decide to buy a new battery then put the new battery into your blackstone and charge while device is turned off.
this should fix your problem
Rn
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Actually i think its not Battery die problem because i did some test and i see improvment my battery last at least 2-3 days with alot of usage wifi and etc so this is more than normal.. the problem was that the indicator do not work corectly and like i wrote above i discharge fully the battery till the device die and i saw that when my battery was on 0% i still play alot alot my device to swtich off this mean that befor when the indicator shows 0% its remain anorhter 30 40% power this heppand due to 2.5 years usage and i recharge the device when i have time not always when is fully without power and i think that this cause somehow a discalibration of the Li Ion so today when i did the trick i see improvments and now the indicator start to count ever single % so i think when i do this one or two more times the Battery will be calibratet and will show very corect how much Power i still have.
I think this way because if this battery was already died the device will not last 2-3 days with super usage.

Battery readings going completely wild

So recently my phone (unrooted unmodded N910C) battery is being extremely weird. When I try to charge my phone, it sometimes doesn't go beyond around 70-90% but if I take out the battery and put it back in, it shows 100%. It sometimes also shuts off on its own at around 40% and when I plug in a charger, it shows sometimes 0% and sometimes 40% (but if I turn it on, it still says 0%). I've tried a lot of things, including discharging completely and recharging to 100% (powered off), factory reset, clearing cache, and quick starting battery and nothing seems to work. Does anyone have similar problems and has anyone found a solution to this?

The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english

scamex said:
The problem is the battery ... the catode pin inside battery is not working properly. The motherboard of the phone it just reading the voltage and temperature of the battery. Your percentage shown on status bar is based on what current intensity is received from battery. So just replace the battery... esxuse my poor english
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Are you sure it's the battery? I took it out and everything looks normal, including the pins. Also, battery apps said that my battery health was good or should I not trust them at all? I just don't want to buy an extra battery if the problem is not with the battery.

I meant the catode pin inside battery not outside. It's your call if you buy a battery or not. I just writed here how the proces work because i have fixed lot of motherboard i knowing about this i have explained to you. Cheers

i have the same problem too and i tested every things and now i am really tire , i dont think thats problem was the battery , can anybody help me plz?

Had similar problem yes new battery at the samsung store the assistant said many note 4 batteries selling I got the last one. Maybe we got a bad batch or its deliberate. Maybe we could do a survey how many people have had to buy a new battery
Sent from my SM-N910C using XDA-Developers mobile app

I also posted a similar problem. In my case the problem is more alarming, because it's happening in two different batteries, one of them is rather new and fresh. It seems that it started out of the blue, I did not make any major change in the phone.
I am still investigating the issue, I'll be back with more observations.

Just an update on my situation: I bought a new battery and now the battery readings seem to be fine.

I had the same problem as you OP. The problem was definitely the battery for me at least. Bought a new one just the other week and now everything is working perfectly

If the affected battery is under warranty get it replaced for free. Or if the problem does not get solved after cross checking many possibilities. Just buy a new battery. Simple. Good luck.