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A wallpaper question for those that use ICS

On my unrooted, stock Honeycomb Galaxy Tab I have a different wallpaper for my lock screen than I do for the launcher. I notice that on my Galaxy Nexus, which is the "pure" Android experience, which runs ICS 4.0.2 that this capability has been taken away.
Is this because the GN is a phone? Or has that capability just been yanked from ICS?

I dont know if it was a feature on stock unmodified Honeycomb and if it wasnt then it could be something that Samsung added as part of their touchwiz mods.

Official ICS or Cyanogen?

Hi all. As you might have heard the official Samsung ICS update for our beautiful Note has started rolling out in Europe today. I'm just wondering whether people will be using it or whether they are happy with their custom ICS roms. What are the pros and cons of each?
I'm still on imilka's Cm9 v2, as it works flawlessly on my Note. But I should update soon and want to know what people more experienced than me think (I've only been playing around with flashing for a couple of months)
Thanks
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I m going with Official ICS as I feel that our phone is incomplete without Touchwiz apps like S-Pen, S-memo, etc.
The day I will lose my Stylus, I will jump straight away to CM9. LOL.
CM9 is purely for better performance whereas Samsung ICS is for better user-experience.

I stay with TouchWiz Apps but other Launcher.
I think Nova Launcher is the best Launcher, those Folders and Docks are awesome !

Cyanogen definitely as I don't want this crappy Touchwizz on my Note.

Bingoig11 said:
Cyanogen definitely as I don't want this crappy Touchwizz on my Note.
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change the launcher then, there are alternatives out there

TW-Launcher on ICS is smooooooooth as hell but i would miss the custom docks, custom icons and those great folders from Nova Launcher !

Cyanogenmod.
I don't think I will be writing formulas on a phone..........
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CM9 is great, but I also do not wanna miss the Stylus-Apps now even better with Premium Suite...

Official ICS.
I tried a few AOSP roms, but can't live without proper stylus support. I've gotten too used to it.

Richy99 said:
change the launcher then, there are alternatives out there
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Why should I have a heavier ROM with useless things when I can have a light ROM smooth and fast and everything I need

How much of a performance difference is there between official ICS with 3rd party launcher and a custom rom? Would you feel this in everyday use?
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I'm sure even without Touchwiz, there will be awesome developers porting Samsung apps over in future. Currently, you can choose both of them to your preference. If you usually take notes and enjoying Sammy's apps then by all means use the stock ICS ROM.

After using imilkas ICS/CM9 and then going back to GB I realised how much lag there was on the note and stock roms... so I guess my question would be...is it as seamless, performance wise, as CM9? (In terms of basic features and performance like swioing between pages and launching apps and transitions ?)
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I'm on CM9 but would like to try the Stock ICS, but that's more because of a compulsive flashing disease I must have. Well in fact I would like to have FM radio app, so that's my excuse for flashing the official ROM. I can always install another launcher like nova and still use Samsung apps anyway ? I mean touchwizz is not just a launcher right, it's a whole framework that's "there" even if i use another launcher ?

KSauzeRK said:
I'm on CM9 but would like to try the Stock ICS, but that's more because of a compulsive flashing disease I must have. Well in fact I would like to have FM radio app, so that's my excuse for flashing the official ROM. I can always install another launcher like nova and still use Samsung apps anyway ? I mean touchwizz is not just a launcher right, it's a whole framework that's "there" even if i use another launcher ?
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Correct.

Ekofasc said:
Correct.
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Thanks for the answer. As I read TW won't work well in tablet mode, I guess even if i use a apex launcher for example, I won't be able to get a working tablet mode with official ICS + apex launcher ?

I think I'll give the official ICS a try before giving my final judgement .
Anybody knows if the euro ics ROMs support RTL (I.e Arabic text)?

Painless001 said:
How much of a performance difference is there between official ICS with 3rd party launcher and a custom rom? Would you feel this in everyday use?
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Under GB I tried stock ROM and custom ROMs, the difference between these two kind of ROMs was noticeable.
And I like things clean, so I don't want useles things on my phone.
All ROMs I use are also cleaned by myself using System Tuner Pro and removing all applications I don't use (like Email for example, I only use Gmail, wallpapers, animated wallpapers etc.)
And AFAIK with stock ROM I cannot remove Samsung's crap so CM9 is my best friend.

With OpenDESIGN coming in the next few hours, you'll never say that you miss S-Memo and pen gestures anymore

I've come straight from CM9 and despite the annoyance of Samsung's bloatware I feel that ICS is a lot smoother on the official ROM. The only thing I would like to know is if there is a way to get the stock ICS keyboard. The ones in the Play Store seem to been twatted about with and don't seem to offer the proper ICS autocorrect infrastructure unless I'm mistaken.

How much smoother is the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with JB?

So i just bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with ICS 4.0.3. After a few days i have to say that the experience is terrifying and using the tab now feels like torture. The UI is so massively stuttering and laggy that my eyes are hurting after 10 minutes. Be it web-browsing with all kind of browsers or using facebook or just searching through the menus,... and the worst stutter is in Play Store.
I know that JB is supposed bring the smoothness to a near iDevices-level. I used a JB Transformer Prime before. It is super smooth and is worlds apart from an ICS Transformer Prime. But the Prime has Tegra 3 while the Galaxy Tab 2 has only Tegra 2. The experience with the tab 2 was so horrible that I'm afraid that even JB won't be able to save it.
I was about to return the tab so i don't really want to install an (incomplete) custom JB on it and then have to restore it to stock state. Because as i said, i fear JB is not enough. So anyone who has installed JB on the tab 2 please share your experience with me? If JB is really that great i may give it a try anyway.
Thank you very much!

Even the update from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 was a big improvement IMO for the stock software. I haven't tested out the JB OTA leak, but I do know that AOSP/CM10 Jelly Bean works really well on my 7" tablet.

With aokp,lag dessaperaed
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I just upgraded to 4.0.4. It is indeed a minor improvement over 4.0.3 although not as much as I hoped. The UI is still very stuttering and spiky. Sometimes even unresponsive. I guess I will just have to return it. Sadly I like most of Samsung product. But I will have to go for a transformer prime or infinity.

Did you turn off power saving?
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Running cm or aokp makes a huge difference. Its the fastest it will ever be with it. With stock its clearly the slowest it will ever be. Some roms that are based on stock but trimmed down are fast. Check around and do some research.
Remember, you can always go back if you don't like it.

I just installed the jb leak. Extremely smooth.
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I just installed the jb leak. Extremely smooth.
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I had 4.0.3 too on my tab2, and what you said it all did got them but after i installed jb it went realy fast !

Try aokp build 4 or cm10 from www.teamhacksung.org
No stutter at all, i use it now
But make a nandroid backup first
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The galaxy tab 2 is not a tegra device. It uses a TI OMAP processor which is completely open rather than a closed and proprietary nvidia tegra. That's where there are already jellybean roms out for it if you want to flash them.
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I have the 7" tab and with 4.0.3 I had the same experience as OP, but JB leak cured that.
I tried CM10 first, very smooth, but the lack of WiFi direct, Polaris office and video codecs were a deal breaker for me.
I suggest trying a JB rom before returning the tab.

AOKP Build 4 is like butter

iv found the JB leak to not be that smooth on my tab 2 The app store scrolling is slow and so is going from home page to home page...is something wrong? Iv got the Tab 2 3g 10.1??
Experience is nothing like the Note 2 which is amazing! (so good iv not even gone for a custom rom) I know that has the quad core but surely shouldnt be this bad...

dullahan263 said:
So i just bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with ICS 4.0.3. After a few days i have to say that the experience is terrifying and using the tab now feels like torture. The UI is so massively stuttering and laggy that my eyes are hurting after 10 minutes. Be it web-browsing with all kind of browsers or using facebook or just searching through the menus,... and the worst stutter is in Play Store.
I know that JB is supposed bring the smoothness to a near iDevices-level. I used a JB Transformer Prime before. It is super smooth and is worlds apart from an ICS Transformer Prime. But the Prime has Tegra 3 while the Galaxy Tab 2 has only Tegra 2. The experience with the tab 2 was so horrible that I'm afraid that even JB won't be able to save it.
I was about to return the tab so i don't really want to install an (incomplete) custom JB on it and then have to restore it to stock state. Because as i said, i fear JB is not enough. So anyone who has installed JB on the tab 2 please share your experience with me? If JB is really that great i may give it a try anyway.
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If you really have the situation you described, and you have turned off the power saving mode, then the difference between stock and JB variants won't be noticeable because you have some other issues that are degrading the normal performance.
This tablet performs quite well under normal circumstances with the stock ICS. It has plenty of memory and an adequate processor. SO there are a few possible answer for your problem.
1. You might have failed hardware.
2. You might be loading the device with so many active widgets and background programs that you are eating all the RAM up. That's hard to do, but possible especially if you have some poorly written , misbehaving apps..
3. You have some badly behaving apps that are eating memory and cpu.
4. Do not use auto task killers with ICS, these will fight Android's built-in system optimization and slow your apps down. You can use the manual task manager to kill a misbehaving app if needed.
First open the task manager and see what you have.
When I open it, normally I have about 450Mb used out of 830Mb it displays 450 / 830 and you will see a few active apps. CPU numbers for the active apps should be very low. Mine usually shows 0.0 or 0.X so very low. If you have a app with a high CPU number, that could be your problem.
As you open more app, more memory is used., but that's ok, Android does not remove apps from memory until it needs to.
If you have more than 80% of memory used, things can begin to slow down. That should not happen unless you are running several poorly written apps that are going rouge and eating memory. What does your task manager show?
So-called debloating, removing some unused apps from the ROM is a placebo. If you don't run them, they are sitting in SSD storage doing nothing and have no effect on speed or RAM.
Samsungs Touchwiz additions to the UI have a pretty small footprint and don't impact responsiveness as far as I can measure.
Once we get a fully working kernel, there are some inherent UI speed ups in JB, and those will come in the stock ROMs as well, but that won't fix the situation you have which is an anomaly.
You can monitor applications , memory and CPU usage with a app such as System Tuner
I posted a screenshot.

For me, the stock 4.0.3 was terrible! Even considered returning the tablet due to lag. But flashed AOKP 4.1.1 and feels like a brand new machine. Very smooth and no lags whatsoever!

Hi everyone glad to find this post..!
Ok yo begin with I bought a tab2 10.1 GTP5113 ver. With ICS 4.0.3 ..!
I haven't unlocked or rooted ..! It was smooth everything was nice except if I had many apps opened then it was laggy
I was able to add the incremental update named UEBLH firmware..!!
Then I installed the leaked jellybean firmware on it..! Still everything working fine..!
Its much more smoother and sexier in handling... The UI is beautiful and operation is verryyy smooth ..!
But to my surprise the IR blaster (smart remote control) isn't working anymore and the camera is crappy..! It's garbage..!! It doesn't autofocus anymore..!
I wanted to ask someone has same issues..? And was the camera crappy in previous versions as well. ?
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For me its a big difference going from 4.04 to newest kang jb.
Overclocked to 1.4 and still battery seems to last alot longer and i just find it strange.
Surfing web is insane fast.

aniket.sananse said:
and the camera is crappy..! It's garbage..!! It doesn't autofocus anymore..!
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I don't think the cameras ever auto-focused on the Tab 2's. I know the rear camera on my p3113 doesn't and Face Unlock stopped working for me which was ok because I had to hold my face in a certain spot for it to work anyway since the front camera couldn't change focus.
Back on topic though, I'm running my build of Paranoid Android and it's slicker than a greased pig. It is 4.1.2, but it is way snappier than CM9 was on the p3113.

Possible official Jelly Bean upgrade?

So as we know the Galaxy Tab is a dual core tablet (obviously) that runs on a Tegra 2 processor.
I was looking through Sammobile today and I came across this article:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/25...android-4-2-2-testing-on-1st-gen-galaxy-tabs/
Apparently Samsung ARE still developing/testing on this tablet (as well as the other originals) and are testing Jelly Bean builds...
Apparently also if the test firmware passes the tests and so on and a Jelly Bean rom is all goods, then this will be upgraded to... 4.2.2.
Right now apparently testing is being done on the 7.7 variant, but surely they'd also test on our 10.1 Tabs (it states P7500 right now, but the P7510 should follow suit if that's the case)
EDIT: The 7.7 is already getting Jelly Bean
(Of course right now this is all up in the air and is subject to change, but we can be hopeful)
What do you guys think?
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Fingers crossed but I won't hold my breath. Hmm...
SGS3 ftw

Soryuu said:
So as we know the Galaxy Tab is a dual core tablet (obviously) that runs on a Tegra 2 processor.
I was looking through Sammobile today and I came across this article:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/25...android-4-2-2-testing-on-1st-gen-galaxy-tabs/
Apparently Samsung ARE still developing/testing on this tablet (as well as the other originals) and are testing Jelly Bean builds...
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Yeah, but look at how the ICS update was. They skinned it to basically look like honeycomb. Even if we do get an update, they will make it look the same.
If you truly want a decent update, try AOKP. Sure it involves rooting and flashing it, but it is 4.2.2 and it's way more customizable than touchwiz. And you can over clock the cpu if you need more power

kilometers4 said:
Yeah, but look at how the ICS update was. They skinned it to basically look like honeycomb. Even if we do get an update, they will make it look the same.
If you truly want a decent update, try AOKP. Sure it involves rooting and flashing it, but it is 4.2.2 and it's way more customizable than touchwiz. And you can over clock the cpu if you need more power
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Actually I disagree. Look what happened with the S2 and the Note. They still looked like Gingerbread even on ICS, for heaven's sake. But their Jelly Bean update looks like a proper update. Maybe if we did get the same update we'd get a similar thing (provided though the Tab's ICS build is already halfway there-ish).
And haha, I only just got this tablet. And for me stock ICS runs pretty damn well. So maybe I'll stick to this for now... With my tablet I'm not too fussed (unlike my phone...) as is :3
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One thing that you forget is the CPU. The 7.7 tab runs an Exynos, and the P7500 runs a Tegra 2, that makes a big difference in development.

Toldo said:
One thing that you forget is the CPU. The 7.7 tab runs an Exynos, and the P7500 runs a Tegra 2, that makes a big difference in development.
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True that. Guess we'll just wait and see.
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Hope its true.My tab is on ics and its terribly slow.Might flash task's jb for now.

redhk886 said:
Hope its true.My tab is on ics and its terribly slow.Might flash task's jb for now.
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I tried stock ICS for all of a half hour. I would highly recommend AOKP build 6 by djmatt604. Very smooth and loads of customization. You won't be disappointed
Edit: here's a link to the dev thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40029799

My tab is on ics and its terribly slow.Might flash task's jb for now.

Waiting so much
I checked lots of roms for this device. Of course stock roms are very slow and not comfortable for interface. Hope there will be an update sooner.

It could realy help the tab to get all the "project butter" optimisation...
I'm running ICS and you NEED to overclock to get something a little bit responssive...
I've tried many "custom roms" but I realy enjoy more the stock interface.

t1mman said:
I've tried many "custom roms" but I realy enjoy more the stock interface.
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I'm with you, tried em all but still prefer the stock look and feel. A little upgrade wouldn't go astray at all with regards to speeding things up, as long as they do it properly.

Prefer stock as well
I also prefer stock because of the task manager that's so accessible. I hope they official jb primarily because our family shares this this Tablet and we need the multiuser feature

CrimsonSage said:
I also prefer stock because of the task manager that's so accessible. I hope they official jb primarily because our family shares this this Tablet and we need the multiuser feature
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I doubt you'll get android 4.2. I think if all goes well, we'll end at 4.1, which doesn't have multi user.
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village rticlena
gave up waiting for jb.don't think it will ever come on gt1.flashed task's jb,instead.still has a few bugs,but,still better stock ics.

I looked into this before rooting/flashing Task650's OAKP 4.2 ROM. From what I was able to gather, there was essentially a low chance of updating to Jelly Bean officially.
I highly recommend that you try out his ROM, and if you don't like it, you can always restore to the Nandroid backup you made first.

hi,
Sorry if off-topic.
I want to upgrade my GT-P7510 to jelly bean. Because there are no official upgrade, I am trying custom ROMs. I checked AOKP and CM 10.1 mods. One issue with both of them - they have phone style status and navigation bars (one on top, one on bottom) and not tablet style bar (both on bottom). Any ideas if it is changeable or where to find tablet ROM non phone ROM?
Thanks

Joe Baliu said:
hi,
Sorry if off-topic.
I want to upgrade my GT-P7510 to jelly bean. Because there are no official upgrade, I am trying custom ROMs. I checked AOKP and CM 10.1 mods. One issue with both of them - they have phone style status and navigation bars (one on top, one on bottom) and not tablet style bar (both on bottom). Any ideas if it is changeable or where to find tablet ROM non phone ROM?
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399999
this rom have an old style bars and its on 4.3, but unfortunatelly not the last cm source, still not bad...
all 4.2+ roms originally have 2 top bars and soft buttons at the bottom,
thats gives more order because notifications and toggles a separated

crippleye said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399999
this rom have an old style bars and its on 4.3, but unfortunatelly not the last cm source, still not bad...
all 4.2+ roms originally have 2 top bars and soft buttons at the bottom,
thats gives more order because notifications and toggles a separated
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Hi,
Use this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098429 and follow it's instructions. Of has an tablet UI option under settings, and it's a reaaly smooth, stable and fast ROM. Overclock it also under settings to 14000 (very important and reaaly quite safe) you'll be amazed!

+1 for twa_priv but..
Cunhaad said:
Hi,
Use this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098429 and follow it's instructions. Of has an tablet UI option under settings, and it's a reaaly smooth, stable and fast ROM. Overclock it also under settings to 14000 (very important and reaaly quite safe) you'll be amazed!
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+1 on this. I tried the tabletUI (Interface -> Status Bar -> TabletUI or something like that..) and found it quite nice.
However, I found kasper_h (, AAccount) 's ROM MacKay Omni KK ROM to be super useful since I don't have to sacrifice the navigation bar real estate.
Of course, I don't mind having to swipe down from the top/bottom to reveal both the status bar (NO TabletUI mind you.. ) and navi bar. This is so much better on my tab now. Kind of like a second life.

[Q] Rom base on samsung stock rom but AOSP themed

First I'm sorry if my english is bad. I will do my best to be understandable.
Back in the day with my SGS2 I tried many many rom and in the end the best I found was a stock rom debloated but aosp themed.
I had all the feature like mhl working and I was able to reinstall any samsung app I wanted. And all that without the horrible (for my taste) samsung call screen/sms screen/system setting screen and icon notification.
I tried to find something similar with the SGS4 but I can't find one matching my criteria. I only found CGM based rom or debloated rom. Do I need to wait or is there something like that already out there? Or just a team that work on something like that I can follow for future release?
Have a good day!

You're talking about Chameleon for the S2, unfortunately nothing like it was made for the S3 or Note 2. Mostly stuff based on CM10 which means no Samsung framework.

pcsario said:
You're talking about Chameleon for the S2, unfortunately nothing like it was made for the S3 or Note 2. Mostly stuff based on CM10 which means no Samsung framework.
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I was talking about foxhound and serendipidy but chameleon seem to belike that to.
But there is hybrid rom for note 2. When I searched for the chameloen rom I found that: HYBRID AOSP-TW for note 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061143

elessard84 said:
I was talking about foxhound and serendipidy but chameleon seem to belike that to.
But there is hybrid rom for note 2. When I searched for the chameloen rom I found that: HYBRID AOSP-TW for note 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061143
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There is also a rom called Blandroid that i was using for a while on my s3, which was also a hybrid between stock and touchwiz

I can't wait for an hybrid rom. I almost returned my s4 for a note 2 just because they have already good custum rom.
I wonder if the battery life will be as good as now; I have 48h batterie life with epub reading/call/using the GPS/music listening/ect with bluetooth ON, GPS ON and a few widget that sync over the network.

elessard84 said:
I can't wait for an hybrid rom. I almost returned my s4 for a note 2 just because they have already good custum rom.
I wonder if the battery life will be as good as now; I have 48h batterie life with epub reading/call/using the GPS/music listening/ect with bluetooth ON, GPS ON and a few widget that sync over the network.
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i was thinking the same thing especially since theyre both quad core, but in the end having the faster of the two processors, the 1080p screen and the ir blaster is well worth the trade off (my opinion). Keep your head up we are going to have a uber amount of ROMs in the near future