[Q] Anyone else experiencing this problem? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
I just received my nexus a few days ago and although I don't seem to have any of the problems that other users of this forum have mentioned (yellow ting, earpiece buzz when on call), I do have this other really minor issue. There seems to be a really minor "pop/buzz" coming from either the earpiece of the back speaker (its too soft can't tell which one) when press virtual buttons on the phone. It doesn't happen every time, only seldomly and can only be heard in a quiet room. I am quite happy with my nexus but I was just wondering if others are experiencing this as well. This is probably due to bad shielding of the wires and catches interferences with other electronics?

mgkrp said:
Hi All,
I just received my nexus a few days ago and although I don't seem to have any of the problems that other users of this forum have mentioned (yellow ting, earpiece buzz when on call), I do have this other really minor issue. There seems to be a really minor "pop/buzz" coming from either the earpiece of the back speaker (its too soft can't tell which one) when press virtual buttons on the phone. It doesn't happen every time, only seldomly and can only be heard in a quiet room. I am quite happy with my nexus but I was just wondering if others are experiencing this as well. This is probably due to bad shielding of the wires and catches interferences with other electronics?
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I think thats a common bug, I wouldnt be too worried about it. If you are feeling lucky you could try for an RMA but unless its super loud or is having some negative effect on your battery I would just leave it be.

I have the same issue
mgkrp said:
Hi All,
I just received my nexus a few days ago and although I don't seem to have any of the problems that other users of this forum have mentioned (yellow ting, earpiece buzz when on call), I do have this other really minor issue. There seems to be a really minor "pop/buzz" coming from either the earpiece of the back speaker (its too soft can't tell which one) when press virtual buttons on the phone. It doesn't happen every time, only seldomly and can only be heard in a quiet room. I am quite happy with my nexus but I was just wondering if others are experiencing this as well. This is probably due to bad shielding of the wires and catches interferences with other electronics?
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I have the same problem! I get that "pop" noise occasionally, even when my phone is muted.
It's like the sound a speaker makes when you disconnect it from its source.
I haven't paid much attention to this minor problem because it doesn't interfere with my usage of the phone, and everything else about the speaker works just fine. I wouldn't worry about it.

Same thing happens to me. But its not a problem really because it only happens once every 100 press.
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About microhone

As I had problems with microphone (sound very metallic and very low) I did a test, that is, I removed the back cover and I have unplugged one microphone because there are two, one for the front camera and one camera back (the one on the cover).
Before disconnecting a microphone two, I had a rotten side of his hood and side camera screen and acceptable side mainitenant that I have unplugged the microphone, I have a good quality sound in all cases of figures. Now I ask myself the question, is there no conflict of microphones? (interférences. ...) when the two are connected. If anyone wants to try to confirm my intuition I'm sure of myself and be able to offer the problem to Acer.
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I would LOVE to get this microphone problem fixed. Voice input, which I have come to rely on with my Droid 1, 2 years old, is unusable on my A500. Aside from that, I love it. But this problem makes me want to return it.
My mic has never worked. Can't record sound at all. And try as I might with a jewelers eyeloop, I cannot see the mic hole where it's supposed to be (in the groove, just above the glass near the center.) I'm tempted to try to take it apart and swap the mics to see if there's any difference.
The mica are where everyone says they are.the rear mic is not for sound pickup but to cancel out background noise.I can see how unhooking it could improve the Mic loudness.but at the same time I think it would cause.static in its quality or feedback.
I am considering going to radio shack and replacing the mics.
from what I have heard the hardware is not the issue. I hear it worked fine before a certain 3.1 OTA.
Why the hell the mice is on the back where the unit has a front facing camera obviously for talking that's just wrong.
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dito33 said:
Why the hell the mice is on the back where the unit has a front facing camera obviously for talking that's just wrong.
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As someone already said it's for noise cancellation. The front mic picks up voice + noise, the back one picks the same noise. So you can cancel the noise using proper dsp techniques.
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I just bought GrooVe IP and made a test call last night. The other person could hear me just fine. I'll make some more tests, but maybe I'm not having the mic problems that others are having. I've never had any problems with the wifi not connecting or being slow after waking.
msimindlessmsi2 said:
from what I have heard the hardware is not the issue. I hear it worked fine before a certain 3.1 OTA.
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That is what I have read too, but cannot confirm as I updated to 3.1 right after I received my Iconia.
I've tried the whole plug in a wired Cell Phone Headset/Mic, but that does not resolve the low mic volume for me (the other side still can barely hear me, even with their speakers on max)
I am hoping one of the custom ROMs or Kernels that are being developed fix this issue. So far, I have not seen it addressed, and does not seem many people are concerned :-( (with exception of a few people here)
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That is what I have read too, but cannot confirm as I updated to 3.1 right after I received my Iconia.
I've tried the whole plug in a wired Cell Phone Headset/Mic, but that does not resolve the low mic volume for me (the other side still can barely hear me, even with their speakers on max)
I am hoping one of the custom ROMs or Kernels that are being developed fix this issue. So far, I have not seen it addressed, and does not seem many people are concerned :-( (with exception of a few people here)
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The last A500 I owned had a good working microphone. I tested it multiple times and playback volume was good even if the sound was slightly muffled. As soon as I updated it to 3.1 OTA, the microphone recording level became very low and barely audible unless I spoke loudly and directly into the microphone. I flashed a backup of 3.01 and the microphone recording level was still poor. I returned the A500 and decided to buy a different brand of tablet.
Rob

Nexus 7 speaker defective!!!!!

I am currently in the process of sending back my nexus 7 because of a pretty defective speaker. The speaker crackles and pops when played above 40% . It basically renders sound on this thing without headphones as a boon starter.
I have two questions to the forum:
1) is anyone else experiencing this problem?
2) is it true that the problem stems from too much power behind sent to the speaker chip. A guy on another forum reckoned it could be fixed with software but I severely doubt that. I think the speaker is just damaged or loose
Kind Regards
@Igboscouser
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Sounds like you blew out the speaker. Good luck with your RMA.
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I have the same problem, waiting for Goog to send me a RMA link... been two days.
igbo_scouser said:
I am currently in the process of sending back my nexus 7 because of a pretty defective speaker. The speaker crackles and pops when played above 40% . It basically renders sound on this thing without headphones as a boon starter.
I have two questions to the forum:
1) is anyone else experiencing this problem?
2) is it true that the problem stems from too much power behind sent to the speaker chip. A guy on another forum reckoned it could be fixed with software but I severely doubt that. I think the speaker is just damaged or loose
Kind Regards
@Igboscouser
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If it helps, I had a similar problem with distortion of certain audio over 50% volume. Fixed it by installing Equalizer and reducing the for the faders two lowest frequency bands.
I can now run full volume without issue.
I think one of theverge people had this as well. I think Topolsky, in their latest podcast said "I liked the speaker" while his disgruntled colleague said speaker was bad. Looks like defect number three has reared its head (screen separation, digitiser fault).
Mine is broken too
I just got off the phone with Google. As soon as I mentioned distorted sound above 50% volume they said It was defective. They are sending me a new one within a week with a box and shipping for the bad one. I'm pretty sure they've been dealing with this a lot. They aren't the manufacturer so they aren't going to dispute or question a bad product. They know they initial bad reviews about sound could destroy sales.
I'm pretty sure that ASUS installed speakers that can't handle the output frequencies. Doubt they have a fix but maybe Google could update the code to meet the speaker frequency range while allowing the headphone jack to retain full audio range. A generic across the board equalizer adjustment might fix the internal speaker issues but would ruin the headphone usage. I just a thought.
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m0gky said:
If it helps, I had a similar problem with distortion of certain audio over 50% volume. Fixed it by installing Equalizer and reducing the for the faders two lowest frequency bands.
I can now run full volume without issue.
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It works but makes external speakers and headphones sound terrible. Great idea though. It will have to do until I get a new one. Since so some people aren't having sound issues I'm going to exercise my warranty rights until I'm satisfied.
I've just run into this exact same problem. Looks like I'll also be lodging a RMA for "speaker crackles above 50% volume" with Google.
I have distortion at volumes above 60 % however it varies with material. Cinema Paradiso theme music seams to have the perfect tones to rattle the speaker on mine.
I am not sure if this is normal as mine sounds better than the MP3 of this I was listening to above. I really don't want to be parted from my Nexus. Still I am disappointed that the speaker is impractical for film watching when on trips.
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No speaker problems at all here. Thank the Lord.
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The replacement device I received yesterday, which has screen lift issues (3rd device with the same problem) now has speaker/ headphone jack issues. I left it turned on and charging yesterday evening for about 2 hours and when I came back to unplug it the device was stuck at the Google boot up screen and the back/bottom of the device was 127 degrees (I have an infrared temperature gun). Now the speakers and headphones can barely be heard with the volume all the way up. Hopefully the third replacement will not have any problems.
Bleh was starting to think I had a good one but was in denial about the speaker problem. Glad I found this thread so I try to get a better one. All these mfg defects it's like you won the lottery when u get a good one. Lol
Got a nexus with the same issue, it honestly does not bother me as I use my headphones a majority of the time. I rather dig in there then to send it in and have a risk of getting a unit with other issues
m0gky said:
If it helps, I had a similar problem with distortion of certain audio over 50% volume. Fixed it by installing Equalizer and reducing the for the faders two lowest frequency bands.
I can now run full volume without issue.
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Any chance you could give me a quick guide on how you did this?
I thought my device was flawless until I noticed this speaker issue.
Just got my replacement today and it's definitely better. Make sure u get a replacement if yours us bad! Don't gimp your device with sound hacks it should work all the time.
Worked for me...
m0gky said:
If it helps, I had a similar problem with distortion of certain audio over 50% volume. Fixed it by installing Equalizer and reducing the for the faders two lowest frequency bands.
I can now run full volume without issue.
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This worked for me after all. I'll be honest one day my nexus got really hot when charging. Played some music after and it had blown out. It seems that the bass is the reason for the popping sound.
I have the same problem ... my right speaker sounds like a trash can -.-
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called google... system problems ... could not reach anyone ... niice
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called google... getting a new device -.-
Same problem here, got RMA a few hours after I sent in the request. New one should be here in a couple of days.
Mine work fine for 2 months and 1 morning I got this cracking and distorted sound at 40%
I did nothing wrong with my tablet and rarely use the speakers....
Well, I was showing a friend how to do voice input. Using SwiftKey. He held the microphone /comma key down continuously - and the nexus screamed. Not his fault. Wouldn't boot up for 5 minutes. Thought it was a gonner. It did boot up eventually, but the speaker is well and truly zapped. Distorted even at the lowest volumes. Unintelligible above 20%.
I was thinking of spending 20 quid to buy a replacement speaker and replace it myself - but it looks like it's a design fault to me (after much Googling). It'll only blow again, will it not?
So maybe a bluetooth speaker...? Anyone tried one? And if you like it, which one?
Steve
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It's good to know that I'm not the only one to have this problem. Well... I don't know if it's a good thing, but whatever...
I've been using my N7 for exactly 1 month, and one day to the next, the sound is crispy. Under 40% everything sounds great, but above, it's very crispy, very ugly as if the speaker was saturated.
I've just contacted Google and they will replace it by a new one. I just hope that the one I will receive will not have any issue.

[Q] Anyone have an earpiece that does NOT buzz or click?

We always see posts about people having issues, but not always when people don't have any problems. I was wondering if there are any Nexus 4 owners that DON'T have the earpiece buzz/click problem. Basically, in a quiet room, I have the screen off and I still can here buzzing and clicking noises in the phone's earpiece. I have no sim card in my phone and still here the noise with the screen on or off. I have contacted google and they are mailing me a replacement in 3-5 days.
I have no issue like this or any of the other reported issues
Mine doesn't
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i have none of the reported problems: yellow screen, earpiece noises, front/rear scratches. :good:
drpepe said:
i have none of the reported problems: yellow screen, earpiece noises, front/rear scratches. :good:
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Ok this is good to know. I hope my replacement device doesn't have the earpiece noises or I will send it back again! Sucks to wait a week though.
Yeah my first n4 had this issue and so does its replacement so I rma'd it as well. Hoping phone number 3 is good.
I have a very faint (almost unhearable) ticking - I can only hear it in a quiet room if I press my phone hard to my ear.
I can hear it on mines when I'm in a quiet place. Also, keep in mind that it is high frequency noise, so some people (typically older people) can't hear it even if it is buzzing. I have great hearing, but MOST of my coworkers can't detect the buzz from my phone at all.
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I can hear it on mines when I'm in a quiet place. Also, keep in mind that it is high frequency noise, so some people (typically older people) can't hear it even if it is buzzing. I have great hearing, but MOST of my coworkers can't detect the buzz from my phone at all.
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I was thinking this may be the case too. I will check my replacement device if it has the same issue or not. I also have a Nokia Lumia 920 and it definitely does not have the buzzing problem.
np here
Mine doesn't either, but then again my wife says I'm losing my hearing already!
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[Q] Buzz/distortion during calls

Hello all,
I recently got my Nexus 4 (build 302K - UK model) and have noticed a buzzing noise which comes and goes during calls. It sounds vaguely like the distortion you hear when you put an active mobile phone near speakers/radios and sort of sounds like the chirping of crickets (yes...lame explanation, but don't know how else to describe it).
It does seem to come and go during the duration of the call, and not sure if it is related to the processor ramping up or not. It also seems present regardless of whether I have a good mobile signal or not.
I called Google and reported the issue. They said this is not a common fault with the phone (which I would expect them to say regardless, no company wants to admit defects) and recommended a hard reset. Low and behold it is still there. They said if that didn't fix it, they would send a replacement.
I just want to find out from the general population of Nexus 4 owners whether this is common to all the phones and just tolerated by you guys, or whether I just happened to get a bad batch and it might be solved via a replacement?
The noise is very noticeable and you'd have to be deaf as a post not to hear it. If it is common to all of them and just tolerated, it's going to be a bit of a deal breaker for me and I'll be seeking a refund.
Apologies if this is covered in another thread as I am quite the noob...I did a quick search before posting and most threads seem to discuss the slight buzzing/clicking noise which is present when the device screen is active (rather than during a call). Mine also has this, but I couldn't care less about that issue. My concern is with the quality of the audio during a voice call, which I am unimpressed with. My BB 8900 had better call quality than this current device I have at the moment.
Thanks in advance,
R
This is pretty common, mines is pretty bad happens every call no matter what.
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The first nexus 4 I had never had this problem. I bought another nexus 4 after selling the first and noticed the buzzing/crackling sound. I just got my replacement today and looks like the problem is still there.
That is a bit alarming. The sound on mine is so extremely noticeable that I'm really surprised everyone is not up on arms about it?
Is it on all phones and people just tolerate it?
I'd so, why?
R: [Q] Buzz/distortion during calls
I've had my previous nexus with same problem, I've tried to switch the call sound loudspeaker and tried to hear music through earpiece (with earpiece app in google play), but the distortion happened only during calls so I've asked for RMA.
This new one is good, there is still a bit of buzzing sound but not loud, I can live with it.
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Same issue here two RMAs all 3 phones have the same issue all this batch. I have a pulsing buzz in every call I have tried multiple sim cards and networks with no improvement.
I have no idea if LG have discovered an issue with the two I sent back, I plan try one more RMA in hope I get a new batch or I will want some kind of refund. I love the phone but I can't have a loud buzz in every call that I can hear over the person speaking.
Hi,
Has anyone had a replacement or fix for this pulsing buzz in calls yet?
Randy I sent you a PM back not sure if you got it.
Recently received a 303K RMA. Had to go away for a few days so moving all my data across now (using google sync & carbon). Not as easy as I thought.
Will report back soon.
Well I recieved my 4th Nexus 4 yesterday via RMA.
It is the same model as the previous one (does not have nubs on the bottom), built in Feb 2013 likely some kind of rererbished model.
So far I am not having the issue, it may be there very very quietly in the background but it is not audible under normal use now which is fine with me.
I will keep testing it for a few days untill I am happy that it is remaining the same.
After a few days of use I haven't had the same issue with this recent replacement. I did here a bit oh background noise on one call (similar to holding a mobile in call near a speaker) but overall it's better than my previous device.
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Rattling Speakers!

Been using my phone for a bit over a day now and I noticed that the bottom speaker has a slight rattling noise to it, especially at full blast. It's almost as if the speaker is too loud for its own good. It is really noticeable with higher-pitched tunes, such as the one from the following link:
https://youtu.be/GYtck_85rJQ
Can anyone test this out and confirm?
Volume-wise, they seem to be pretty even. However, as someone who listens to music a lot, I know this is going to drive me crazy.
By the way, this issue is obviously not present when connected to a headphone or via Bluetooth. So its definitely the speaker itself.
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akarol said:
Been using my phone for a bit over a day now and I noticed that the bottom speaker has a slight rattling noise to it, especially at full blast. It's almost as if the speaker is too loud for its own good. It is really noticeable with higher-pitched tunes, such as the one from the following link:
https://youtu.be/GYtck_85rJQ
Can anyone test this out and confirm?
Volume-wise, they seem to be pretty even. However, as someone who listens to music a lot, I know this is going to drive me crazy.
By the way, this issue is obviously not present when connected to a headphone or via Bluetooth. So its definitely the speaker itself.
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My phone has a rattle on the top speaker. I received a new device from Google which had a jaundice yellow screen but no rattle. I sent back the device with the bad screen and will request another RMA for the original device.
I read this & gave mine a good shake. I'm good but I'm glad you posted to look out for it.
Just tested on 2 phones, both seem fine.
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I read this & gave mine a good shake. I'm good but I'm glad you posted to look out for it.
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I'm pretty sure he means the noise the speaker makes while playing music, not a physical rattle from shaking the device.
Yes. It's more like a buzzing sound when something high pitched is playing. As if the speaker can't handle the loud volume.
Oh I see. Ok I tested the video and mine is fine. The speakers don't sound over driven.
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akarol said:
Been using my phone for a bit over a day now and I noticed that the bottom speaker has a slight rattling noise to it, especially at full blast. It's almost as if the speaker is too loud for its own good. It is really noticeable with higher-pitched tunes, such as the one from the following link:
https://youtu.be/GYtck_85rJQ
Can anyone test this out and confirm?
Volume-wise, they seem to be pretty even. However, as someone who listens to music a lot, I know this is going to drive me crazy.
By the way, this issue is obviously not present when connected to a headphone or via Bluetooth. So its definitely the speaker itself.
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@akarol, what's the manufacturing date of your 6P? To see your manufacturing date, boot into the bootloader and select "Barcode". One of the barcodes should have a date, mine was October 31st. I'm curious to see if the speaker rattle issue is particular to some 6Ps manufactured on certain dates. I'm pretty sure I experienced some slight rattling on my bottom speaker while playing the music rhythm game Deemo. It doesn't really bother me that much though, and it would be too much of a hassle for my parents if I were to RMA the device, especially so soon after I just got it.
Got mine 2 weeks ago from Best Buy Canada, but didn't notice that issue at first. I suspect that this may be amplified by time, or maybe I just didn't pay attention at firt. I did what you said to see the manufacturing date and mine is October 24th. Maybe this is specific to early production devices. I am gonna exchange it in store today and see if the new one is fine.
Can anyone with this issue confirm if the new one is fine or the same?
Thanks.
I think it's present on all devices and those who say aren't there just don't have the ears for it. I'm on my 3rd RMA and it's still there. All 3! I'll probably just keep the original device.
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akarol said:
I think it's present on all devices and those who say aren't there just don't have the ears for it. I'm on my 3rd RMA and it's still there. All 3! I'll probably just keep the original device.
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The video you posted doesn't cause it for me. However, the launch screen of clash of clans does. Ah well.
About 3 days ago I started noticing this issue on mine. Mainly, when I was receiving a text, the tone sounded really over-driven for the speaker.
Then I was watching a YouTube video today, and I noticed it a lot. I honestly think it's the speaker itself slightly rattling with high pitched noises.
Kind of disappointed in this. I don't feel like sending it back, but it's sad. Maybe a kernel with a good amount of audio control can solve this. Maybe if I could tune down the highs a bit.
I don't have Nexus Protect or anything, but I know the device is still covered under warranty. Is this something that could easily be claimed under warranty, or probably not?
I honestly think it's a design that flaw. I have it in all 3 of my speakers. All 3 of them it's with the bottom speaker. I don't think RMAing or sending it in would solve anything. Maybe some time after when it's been addressed. I'll learn to live with this knowing that I don't usually keep these things past a year anyways.
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My current issue is with the top speaker, instead of the bottom. And my top speaker is getting progressively worse. It's a very annoying buzzing/high pitched static noise that comes with almost any sound. Notifications, alarms, phone ringer, YouTube videos, etc. Its getting worse, and so I submitted an RMA and have a replacement coming out.
Since you say yours is with the bottom, and mine is strictly with the top, it sounds interesting.
Mine is almost bad enough though that you wouldn't want to live with it. I'll try and get a recording of it.
anyone have any updates on this? I just got mine nexus 6p about 2 weeks ago and it's been driving me nuts. The top speaker has a buzzing sound when playing certain videos, songs or notification tones. One specifically is the "Tethys" notification tone that causes the buzzing pretty badly. I have tried viper4android and tried every configuration possible and it still has the buzzing. Has anyone managed to get a device that does not have this issue?
I've got this similar problem too, with my top speaker. Testing my speakers with this video: https://youtu.be/qNf9nzvnd1k?t=54s top one starts buzzing at approximately 250 Hz, even on half of the volume. Bottom speaker is crystal clear (maybe with exception of 100% volume, but I'm ok with this). After reading this thread's posts I'm not sure if I should send it back on warranty, especially that my N6P is free of any other flaws.
Interesting: bootloader barcode screen shows 12-10-2015 - that's quite old unit, considering the fact that I bought it in the middle of January...
Honestly, I went through 3 and they all had some rattling. Over the months, I haven't noticed it anymore. Either I forgot about it, or it actually improved. As long as the volume is even on both, I wouldn't risk getting a worse device.
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I have the exact same problem with top speaker buzz, really noticeable with the tethys notification sound and in youtube videos with deeper sounds. I have tried RMA'ing twice, the first one the speakers were perfect but had a screen problem so I sent it back and kept my original, and the second had the exact same speaker problem so I kept the original again. I am very frustrated with this. A question I have though is when I just leave my finger on the left corner of the speaker that buzzes, it stops buzzing. Has anyone tried any home repairs? What if we were to put a drop of super glue in the left corner of the speaker? is that likely to fix the problem? I appreciate the help guys.
nicemsp said:
I have the exact same problem with top speaker buzz, really noticeable with the tethys notification sound and in youtube videos with deeper sounds. I have tried RMA'ing twice, the first one the speakers were perfect but had a screen problem so I sent it back and kept my original, and the second had the exact same speaker problem so I kept the original again. I am very frustrated with this. A question I have though is when I just leave my finger on the left corner of the speaker that buzzes, it stops buzzing. Has anyone tried any home repairs? What if we were to put a drop of super glue in the left corner of the speaker? is that likely to fix the problem? I appreciate the help guys.
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What do you mean by screen problem?
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What do you mean by screen problem?
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Are you serious?

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