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[Q] NOVA 3 on Nexus 7 working better now?

Anyone out there have NOVA 3 on their tablet and is it working better now? Is it playable? Is it enjoyable? Worth buying? Thanks!

I tried it a while back... still laggy as crap.
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It's my understanding that Gameloft games are not optimized for our devices with multi-core processors.. I play it from time to time..isn't too bad..but should be better. Gameloft is a more apple-biased company with much less support for android.
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I have in and with a different kernel and an overclocked GPU, of ran pretty good but still not as good as the iPad or Samsung tablets. I've heard its because the tegra GPU doesn't have as much raw power as the others, and it was developed for the iPad first so its just a really bad port to the nexus 7

Is it me or is the s4 laggy compared to the note 2

I have used the phone for 2 days and it just seems more laggy than the note 2. The note 2 is crispy especially when switching between apps.
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Yes. I have noticed this as well. Last weekend I purchased a HTC One, the reception was very poor compared to the Note 2, also seemed to have a bit of lag. I took it back immediately.
Then, I outright bought the Galaxy S4 and am debating taking it back because of the lag. I wonder if it has something to do with 1080 vs 720 screen resolution processing?

yaniel06 said:
I have used the phone for 2 days and it just seems more laggy than the note 2. The note 2 is crispy especially when switching between apps.
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My best guess the is the s4 software was a rush job. They didn't expect to have to use the snapdragon 600 processor and so they didn't have time to fully optomize it the best they could. The soc is more than powerful enough. However, i think with in the the next month or so an update will completely clear that up. The same thing happened to the s3.

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My best guess the is the s4 software was a rush job. They didn't expect to have to use the snapdragon 600 processor and so they didn't have time to fully optomize it the best they could. The soc is more than powerful enough. However, i think with in the the next month or so an update will completely clear that up. The same thing happened to the s3.
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That is true, with an update it will help regulate the system a little better. I do too remember that with the SIII i didnt have it then but i knew a few people who did have it. The lag isnt BAD but i think to much runs in the background and sucks the ram up I feel as if i need a task killer for some of the background crap. Plus with the awesome dev selection coming here and once tweaks start cracking out im sure it will be all gone

What I did was install trickstermod, change the governor from on demand to interactive, up the read ahead from 256 to 1024, change scheduler to deadline, and turn off zram.. and this thing is running like butter. And I'm getting amazing battery life

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What I did was install trickstermod, change the governor from on demand to interactive, up the read ahead from 256 to 1024, change scheduler to deadline, and turn off zram.. and this thing is running like butter. And I'm getting amazing battery life
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I see two settings for the CPU Governor... You just changed the one under the General section correct. Or did you also change the Governor setting under the Specific sections as well?
EDIT: NVM the one under Specific section is for the GPU... misread it the first time I looked at the settings.

This seems odd to me. I had an S3 tweaked to optimal performance, and the S4 completely stock still blazes in comparison.
I don't have a single sliver of lag, I go from app to app in a heartbeat, and my roommate has a Note 2 as well and the S4 is still smoother.
Very weird, this is one beast of a phone haha. There is literally nothing better at the moment since it came out so early in the year!
I'm sure any issues you have will disappear in a second once kernel development gets going!
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The latest sprint OTA takes care of the lag issue
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inlineboy said:
This seems odd to me. I had an S3 tweaked to optimal performance, and the S4 completely stock still blazes in comparison.
I don't have a single sliver of lag, I go from app to app in a heartbeat, and my roommate has a Note 2 as well and the S4 is still smoother.
Very weird, this is one beast of a phone haha. There is literally nothing better at the moment since it came out so early in the year!
I'm sure any issues you have will disappear in a second once kernel development gets going!
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What do you consider to be "lag"? The S4 does lag. That's all there is to it. Not as much as my EVO LTE does but it still does. Especially compared to the HTC One. But I'd rather have a little lag as opposed to the negatives with HTC, Sense, and the One.
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Delakit said:
What do you consider to be "lag"? The S4 does lag. That's all there is to it. Not as much as my EVO LTE does but it still does. Especially compared to the HTC One. But I'd rather have a little lag as opposed to the negatives with HTC, Sense, and the One.
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I'm sure you know all about my phone.
My phone doesn't stutter in the slightest, it does not ever freeze up even for a second, everything opens and close immediately, multi tasking works flawlessly, there is literally nothing on it that doesn't work flawlessly. It has a processor that's already excessively powerful for just a phone.
As other people have said, some people may be having lag solely due to software, and the consensus is that the latest firmware updates took care of the minor issues people were having. I've had an android phone from every generation starting with the G1 and I can say that my phone, the one in my hand, does not lag at all, while all others had plenty of lag decreasing exponentially through generations.
I am running AOSP though, and not the stock TW though and have been since it came out, so I can't give a respectable opinion on the current state of the stock rom.
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Off topic, but what do u consider to be the negatives of the htc one that keep you from getting it? Just asking cause I might be trading with somebody's s4 today
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Off topic, but what do u consider to be the negatives of the htc one that keep you from getting it? Just asking cause I might be trading with somebody's s4 today
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The S4 is a better investment. HTC is on the brink of going out of business. The S4 will receive constant updates for the next 2 years where that's always been a challenge with HTC phones.
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inlineboy said:
I'm sure you know all about my phone.
My phone doesn't stutter in the slightest, it does not ever freeze up even for a second, everything opens and close immediately, multi tasking works flawlessly, there is literally nothing on it that doesn't work flawlessly. It has a processor that's already excessively powerful for just a phone.
As other people have said, some people may be having lag solely due to software, and the consensus is that the latest firmware updates took care of the minor issues people were having. I've had an android phone from every generation starting with the G1 and I can say that my phone, the one in my hand, does not lag at all, while all others had plenty of lag decreasing exponentially through generations.
I am running AOSP though, and not the stock TW though and have been since it came out, so I can't give a respectable opinion on the current state of the stock rom.
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I have all 3 devices the S3 S4 and Note 2 and the S4 is way smother than all. I have zero lag as well. Maybe those that do should try a hard reset just a thought.
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I've noticed this in every version of the s4 using a snapdragon 600 I've seen. Some will come out of the box fine others tend to lag. To the op I'd give the one another shot. I think your the only person whose had lag issues, so you probably got a dud unit.
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enik_fox said:
I've noticed this in every version of the s4 using a snapdragon 600 I've seen. Some will come out of the box fine others tend to lag. To the op I'd give the one another shot. I think your the only person whose had lag issues, so you probably got a dud unit.
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Weird. I noticed lag on the display model at Sprint, on my brothers S4 right after he purchased his, and on mine right after purchasing my S4. My brother also claims his device doesn't lag the slightest bit but it clearly did while I was testing his out. Maybe some of us are super-human and can detect a higher FPS in the 'ol noggin. Lol. Who knows.
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I have 0 lag with the updated. It seems to have taken care if that issue
I also notice I have more free RAM than I used to have prior to OTA
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I have a question? When I look at my ram usage it stays at 1.2+ out of 1.78. Is that how it is for everyone else? Sorry if this has been asked.
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Nexus 4 vs SGS4 vs Htc One (lag)

Hi everybody, I want to buy one of this three devices (since I have a very old phone now, the galaxy ace), but I'd like to know which one is the most lagfree. The s4 and the htc one are surely faster (even If I saw some videos in which the n4 with custom rom was faster than an s4 with stock rom), but what about lag? Is the n4 really the smoothest android experience? Thanks in advance!

I have not gotten the chance to try the Galaxy S4 but I have gotten to use an HTC One for a few days, I loved the phone but I still feel my Nexus 4 was a smoother experience. The HTC one is extremely smooth and fast though, no doubt.
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I've heard that the s4 has some lag. Either way every android phone I had with oem skin on has gotten more and more slow and laggy, my gnex is almost smoother then my s3 by now.. I have no idea why
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The S4 is very laggy at the moment. I've had both the AT&T and T-Mobile version both lag during leaving apps. Sometime it lags on the home screen while moving through pages.
HTC one i only got to play with for about 30 mins and it was pretty smooth. I didn't notice lag at all. But the nexus with a custom rom is going to be better until someone makes better use of the HTC one and GS4 power.
And for the record the GS4 lag on a custom rom CM10 and Wicked.

I played with a brand new s4 today, only factory apps installed, and imported contacts, and i definitely noticed some ui lag. Nexus 4 is way smoother imo.
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The S4 is stupidly laggy for something with such amazing hardware. From videos that I've seen the One seems pretty much as lag-free as the N4, right now the One is definitely the best phone on the market IMO.

Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!

The Zel said:
Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!
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You won't regret it.
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I had a play wit ha S4 yesterday. Its almost unrecognizable as an android device. Samsung has done their best to bloat touchwiz up so bad, it almost wont run. Shame for a phone with such awesome hardware to have stuttering and lag like that .

S4 is too much laggy (exynos octa version) because it doesnt have a govenor and I/O scheduler sufficiently smart to manage the low-power and and performance cores.

If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I've had my nexus 4 for about 2 weeks and I have yet to experience any type of lag.
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BxingFetus said:
If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah

I was torn between the GE S4 and the Nexus. I picked the nexus because it is the same experience for almost have the price.
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If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!

The Zel said:
It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!
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I've got a Nexus 4. Zero lag. Very smooth. I've gone into a few different AT&T stores to check out the HTC One and the S4. Every time I tried the S4, the first thing I noticed was lag. I was really surprised. Even a little jittery when swiping the home screen. It's not terrible, don't get me wrong, but it's there. Didn't notice it with the HTC One.
My thoughts are that the HTC One has the highest build quality of the three. There's no doubt, it's the most "premium" and for that reason it makes me want one. It also has the best screen in my opinion. However, there's also no doubt that the Nexus 4 has the best software (both HTC and Samsung ruined their phones with all the unnecessary changes they made) and there's also obviously no doubt that it will get Android updates the quickest and longest into the future, so for that reason I'd stick with my Nexus 4. I also hate that both HTC and Samsung removed the dedicated app switcher button (which I use all the time). The Nexus 4 battery life is a little disappointing coming from an iPhone 4S, but it blows the iPhone away in almost every other way in my opinion.
The best phone "in the world" would be an HTC One that was a Nexus and had the app-switcher button. But, it doesn't exist. So, Nexus 4 is my vote instead.

The Zel said:
I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah
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That's true I love the nexus' look and operation. Hands down my favorite android device. Can't wait for the five.
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(q) ram usage

I upgraded from the galaxy nexus to the g2 and what I can't figure out is what is using all the ran on the g2 I have the same apps on the g2 as I did on my gnex but on the g2 uses almost a gig of ram where as the gnex only used half of that with all the same apps the only difference is the ROM and kernel could it be one of them using all the ram

i can see many more differences between these two devices lol. resolution being the most obvious one.
ill try explain with an example. u have a small house and feel comfortable there. then on top of that u build a 4x bigger house. and you would still live only in the small house. wouldnt it be better to use parts of the bigger house aswell ?
and not only the house grew but you as well.
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That's what I sorta figured
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That's what I sorta figured just wasn't sure
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yeah, nothing to worry about. 1gb used ram is pretty standard now.
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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The LG has 2GB of RAM, if your device uses 1.9GB, then start worrying. If it uses only half or 1.5GB, it is a good thing.

U know,g2 has a much better gpu,processor and resolution etc and does and handles everything better(while sacrificing ram usage)
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New phones?

Hi people
Ive been using nexus for a year now.
And it is the best device I ever used.
However Im getting bored of this phone a bit >< and I thought of moving on.
Do you guys have any devices you are looking forward to?
P.s. Hows xperia z compared to our nexus 4?
Display and camera seems better but Im not sure for other stuff
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LG G Flex

Note 3 is amazing. It would be a dream in Google edition.
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Off topic: Can you please share with us what makes you bored about this phone?
If you just want a faster device with higher resolution I would suggest LG G2/N5.
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Be aware that LG ponies never see more than one update. Even the flagship device.
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I love the feel of nokia devices, well done, the think I dont like that much windows.
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I feel like everything is a little "undercooked" now.
64bit CPU's are on the way.
4K Displays are in the discussion while the GPU's would still not be powerful enough to drive games on them in a serious way.
Nvidia and Qualcomm start adding new GPU features like Desktop Open Gl, Tesselation. Meanwhile Snapdragon's OpenGl Es 3.0 drivers are still broken and unusable.
Intel wants to enter the ARM market and could bring some really good CPU's.
It is time for the manufacturing tech to go below 28nm, which has been used for quite a while and is still used in Snapdragon 805 and Tegra K1. It could save some serious Watts.
The HEVC/H265 video codec is on the way, and until now only the Snapdragon 805 can handle it.
The European GPS System Galileo is supposed to start this year, yet none of the phones features support for it.
And then there is always the simple truth that the Nexus 4 is still incredibly powerful and fast.
You could argue, that tech always develops incredibly fast, but I will wait and see how it works out until 2015.
I made myself a list of "must have" features, before I buy a new phone again.

evdrmr said:
Off topic: Can you please share with us what makes you bored about this phone?
If you just want a faster device with higher resolution I would suggest LG G2/N5.
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Umm I guess I just want to try new phones. Nexus 4 is still powerful and fulfills my needs but I want to experience other new phones in the market
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