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posted this in i717 forum but would also love input from international note owners as well
i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.
I actually have both. There isn't much difference other than processor and LTE so i suggest pick what's important to you and run with it. I've only have the international version for about a day now so i can't comment on battery life as opposed to AT&T's version but then again your in a actual LTE Area where as i am not so that wasn't a factor at all for me. I will probably get rid of my AT&T version soon.
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I actually have both. There isn't much difference other than processor and LTE so i suggest pick what's important to you and run with it. I've only have the international version for about a day now so i can't comment on battery life as opposed to AT&T's version but then again your in a actual LTE Area where as i am not so that wasn't a factor at all for me. I will probably get rid of my AT&T version soon.
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The only real problem on facing is that I do love LTE however its very on and off for me its not definite LTE wherever I am in the city which is kinda swaying me back and both between the two
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LTE won't be in my area for so long that it just didn't matter and to be honest 6 or 7 mbps down and 1.5 to 2mbps up is sufficient enough for me.
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What's more important to you? If you like the different ROMS, development, and possibly getting faster upgrades to the latest OS, then the International Note. If you like better performance, then the International Note. If you like data download speeds on LTE or the ability to use your phone on either AT&T OR T-Mobile, then the AT&T Note.
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posted this in i717 forum but would also love input from international note owners as well
i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.
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No need to think. Just get the International. It will have more diverse dev support than the AT&T version will ever get just because of the processor.
Unless you need LTE.
Int all the way. No discussion needed.
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Never had att version. But the international version development is awesome.......unless you really, really can't live without LTE
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I would go for the international every day of the week. I really love the home button.
But of course, if you can't live without the LTE then you should go for AT&T.
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I say int'l all day.....my buddy has the AT&T version and it honestly seems laggy to me
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
I have owned both. Ditched the ATT model simply for the dev support over here. Internationals battery life is better too.
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mumboender said:
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
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not 100% true, yes its true you dont have manufactures service and that part is true but there are 3rd party warranties that will service it like squaretrade.com for one.
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not 100% true, yes its true you dont have manufactures service and that part is true but there are 3rd party warranties that will service it like squaretrade.com for one.
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Note to self...research squaretrade.com...
Are you already using a 3rd party warranty? If so would you mind posting some quick facts on it?
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Note to self...research squaretrade.com...
Are you already using a 3rd party warranty? If so would you mind posting some quick facts on it?
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here is a screen print for the warranty on squaretrade for my intl note...
mumboender said:
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
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A jig and Odin can usually get you outta anything...lol Except a super hard brick
Int note all the way. even stock.. <--better for me anyway. to me it pointless to have LTE with capped data... do you really need that much speed to check facebook and emails lol <----for me no.. plus i use wifi 9 times out of ten at home.. now if we had true unlimited data. then LTE would rock. streaming movies and music etc. but alas capped data you will chew that up in no time..
other points for me. home button.. faster updates vs att.. no lag what so ever compared to the att..( preordered the att note but sold it too laggy and battery life was low ) <---batt life is awesome can go an 8 hour day. normal ,,facebook, emails, text etc, and still have like 80% left.. auto sync is off of course.. as well as gps and bluetooth..
anyway my point the int note works for me over the att lte version.
but agree either better proc/batt life vs lte its your call bud..
the only thing I'm stuck on right now is the lack of a warranty =\
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the only thing I'm stuck on right now is the lack of a warranty =\
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That should definitely be the only thing you should worry about... getting the int' version is a NOBRAINER unless you care about LTE...
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Int note all the way. even stock.. <--better for me anyway. to me it pointless to have LTE with capped data... do you really need that much speed to check facebook and emails lol <----for me no.. plus i use wifi 9 times out of ten at home.. now if we had true unlimited data. then LTE would rock. streaming movies and music etc. but alas capped data you will chew that up in no time..
other points for me. home button.. faster updates vs att.. no lag what so ever compared to the att..( preordered the att note but sold it too laggy and battery life was low ) <---batt life is awesome can go an 8 hour day. normal ,,facebook, emails, text etc, and still have like 80% left.. auto sync is off of course.. as well as gps and bluetooth..
anyway my point the int note works for me over the att lte version.
but agree either better proc/batt life vs lte its your call bud..
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Hey....you live like 45 minutes from me....lol
Everyone is crying about the N4 not having LTE but honestly, who needs that? Aren't you guys connected to a wifi anyway for most of the time? HSPA or HSPA+ or whatever it's called fast enough to me.
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Actually in my school campus there is highspeed wifi. The only time I need data is while I am driving or somewhere else. Also many times, devices switch off wifi to save battery. This can cause live updates to stop coming. That doesn't happen on mobile data.
Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.
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Everyone is crying about the N4 not having LTE but honestly, who needs that? Aren't you guys connected to a wifi anyway for most of the time? HSPA or HSPA+ or whatever it's called fast enough to me.
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As a T-Mo user, not me. But in a phone that is supposed to be the cream of the crop with all the latest technologies, I can kinda see why some people are slightly butthurt it's not included. With that being said, I definitely do not think it should be a deal breaker like some are claiming.
Don't get me wrong, but I love the speeds that 4g Lte offers, but paying for it its kind of expensive.
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Keep in mind, there's always got to be a huge leap forward every year. For the past 3-4 years this has been the amount of cores and ram (specific chipsets aside). What the hell can they do next year, octo-core phone?
Another fanboi trying to justify no LTE... I swear these forums are worse than Apples sometimes.
I personally don't want LTE because there is no unlimited plan, it's too expensive and coverage sucks here in the UK. However am I going to start trying to tell people who are on LTE and enjoy it that they're wrong? Not releasing a new top end Smart Phone with an LTE model is a mistake.. just like it is a mistake to not have a Micro SD slot or a 32GB model.
This phone ha a small niche, it's for people who want to buy a mobile outright, however if you're on contract and getting an upgrade or signing for a new contract you might as well go for another mobile.
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Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.
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I thought LTE wasn't standard, but some Verizon-specific thing? If this is the case... I can see why the Nexus 4 doesn't have it... But do correct me if I'm wrong I've only heard of LTE with Verizon, but haven't actually looked into it at all (I just know it's something I'll probably not use).
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Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.
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People need to know what the Nexus program is...
Those people know what the Nexus program is
Listen .... Myriam Joire http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/07/e...57-11-07-2012/
Read ... JR Raphael http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...id_at_its_best
Listen... Brian Klug http://www.anandtech.com/show/6438/t...cast-episode-9
All 4G helps with is downloading things. Browsing experience won't change much above 5mbps, after that it's all down to hardware/software
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Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.
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The lg optimus g has lte, its also twice the price. Is lte worth an extra $300 to you?
Personally it would be nice to have LTE because I live in a big city in Canada where there are 3 big carriers that offer LTE using the same bands. I always like to have the latest tech but other than that the nexus 4 seems to fit most of my needs with the DC-HSPA which my carrier also offers. I understand the cost issue but that aside if e phone has LTE than everyone will be happy because places without LTE people can still enjoy HSPA.
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People need to know what the Nexus program is...
Those people know what the Nexus program is
Listen .... Myriam Joire http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/07/e...57-11-07-2012/
Read ... JR Raphael http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...id_at_its_best
Listen... Brian Klug http://www.anandtech.com/show/6438/t...cast-episode-9
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Just curious, has Google ever officially described what the Nexus program is? Where can I find out more information about it rather than just taking the words from third party people?
Never needed LTE and probably won't need it until it's shoved down my throat in the future. My current carrier only has 3 mbps (real performance) data connections and I only use it for Facebook, email, checking websites, so I don't really think I need LTE. Though, I'd be happy if they would at least give us true HSPA+ speeds at 21 mbps though...
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I fully blame Verizon for botching the Galaxy Nexus release for this. It's just too much of a burden for Google to support. It takes Verizon and Sprint forever to roll OS updates, whereas other carriers just push the updates when Google releases them.
I will only get Nexus phones, and am on Verzion, so it's disappointing, but I know why,
Unless there's a carrier with LTE that doesn't require a contract, then I have absolutely no need for it.
No LTE in a new flagship phone = bad
But hey, the technology isn't wise spread yet either, so the benefit would only be to the US and some European countries. So I believe thay Google/LG decided not to hurry with putting that tech in their new phone for now. Nexus 5 is 100% gonna have it, or maybe LG is gonna release a 4G model later
No LTE here anyway. But its rumored to be right around the corner..
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My data is like 700 KB/s tops lol. I'm fine with it, I'll be fine with HSPA+.
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Euroskank AOKP (Build 5 - 4.1.2)
Matrix Kernel (24.0 - CFS)
Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/200)
Wheatly (Screen Off) (400/200)
Deep Idle (N/A - Noop)
BLX (N/A - Inverted Apps)
Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)
The speeds of LTE are awesome. Everything else that goes with it is horrible.
The dual radios, lead to battery drain. My phone likes to get caught between 3G and 4G and I'm left with a hot phone in my pocket without signal.
The price of LTE, Verizon is just so expensive.
The fact that you can't make one phone fit all, all LTE implementations are different.
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Unless there's a carrier with LTE that doesn't require a contract, then I have absolutely no need for it.
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This is exactly it, a Nexus can't be a Nexus with contracts and carriers crap.
Hello,
i am planning to buy nexus 7 next month. i'd look over the shop around my country and it says its available. so, here's the couple question from me:
i would like to know which one is better, the Wifi or GSM model?
is there any specific different between the GSM and Wifi Only Model?
how is the development section which is more active and crowded between those model?
is there any major/knowing bug for any custom ROM in the Development section?
are there any reviews for the comparation for Wifi an GSM Model?
Please advice and Thank you..
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No difference spec wise, apart from the Obvious GSM abilities.
No difference in performance.
I would suggest, if you plan on it being a couch-potato device like mine, which rarely leaves the house, get WiFi.
If you plan on travelling with it etc, get the GSM.
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No difference spec wise, apart from the Obvious GSM abilities.
No difference in performance.
I would suggest, if you plan on it being a couch-potato device like mine, which rarely leaves the house, get WiFi.
If you plan on travelling with it etc, get the GSM.
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Agree with this, it'll help a lot.
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Wilks3y said:
No difference spec wise, apart from the Obvious GSM abilities.
No difference in performance.
I would suggest, if you plan on it being a couch-potato device like mine, which rarely leaves the house, get WiFi.
If you plan on travelling with it etc, get the GSM.
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Thanks man, hopefully at the beginning of the month i receive this tablet..
Btw, it's just my feelings or not, the GSM development not so crowded as the wifi only development, is that right?
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strykerider said:
Thanks man, hopefully at the beginning of the month i receive this tablet..
Btw, it's just my feelings or not, the GSM development not so crowded as the wifi only development, is that right?
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No worries
Ehm, most dev's have a ROM for each, or Hybrids that support both.
But yes, WiFi only probably pips the 3G development.
Have fun with the Nexus
Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.
bose301s said:
Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.
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Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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psychoace said:
Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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Willing to bet it'll be less than the off contract price of the G2, so set price aside, I'll pay whatever for either device, more concerned about network vs. development prospects.
I'm voting Verizon simply for the fact their coverage is just too good to ignore. I'd love to be on T-Mobile because it's hard to ignore how cheap it is to be on their network, but their coverage is just not good outside of cities. The frequency T-Mobile uses also has issues when it comes to reception within buildings. There are a lot of people who love the carrier, but even plenty of the loyal ones will say the signal isn't the greatest by any means.
If you don't plan on traveling and your city has good coverage, it's fine, but if you do travel, it's a more difficult decision. I hate the cost that comes with being on Verizon, but it's nice getting data in areas where ever other carrier fumbles. In fact, at the job I'm working part time at right now, I'm the only one who does not need to use the wifi there because I get great 3g reception.
Also, I think the G2 is going to have a better dev community than past LG phones. This is the first flagship LG Android phone to release on all carriers.
Guess there's not many opinions on this.
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Guess there's not many opinions on this.
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Ill second the opinion on VZWs network being too big to ignore.
I actually had a demo Tmo device for the last couple weeks and outdoors the coverage was great, but once inside a building it went to nothing. Just because of the frequency bands they use, so its not like its something fixable. AT&T/VZW own the lower bands, and lower freqs have better building penetration.
In my case, no matter how cheap it was, Tmo just wouldnt work for me.
I also average 5-7gb a month so no prepaid or other plan really has enough data for me other than T-Mobile.
I guess Aio is always an option with 7gb/month allowance and options for more but 8mbps cap kinda sucks.
Will the 6p get WiFi calling from T-Mobile? I've heard yes and no maybe someone will have a better answer
WiFi calling was confirmed by T-Mobile.
VoLTE on the other hand is still up in the air. At the moment, no. It wasn't certified. However T-Mobile said that they were working with Google to get it certified before it ships. Which would be fantastic, because if it gets certified for VoLTE, LTE band 12 will be activated, for better coverage.
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WiFi calling was confirmed by T-Mobile.
VoLTE on the other hand is still up in the air. At the moment, no. It wasn't certified. However T-Mobile said that they were working with Google to get it certified before it ships. Which would be fantastic, because if it gets certified for VoLTE, LTE band 12 will be activated, for better coverage.
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i sure hope so tmobile is spotty enough for me as it is, wifi calling is pretty big for me and volte is also. keeping my fingers crossed. took forever for them to get with the nexus 6
Assuming everyone knows the answer to this by now, but Des at T-Mobile confirmed on twitter that Wifi calling is working out of the box. https://twitter.com/askdes/status/648936588148371456
Looks like T-Mobile volte is working on the 6p according to the member daboyal006 with a 64gb obe...see his General section thread.
Just read the thread you mentioned. The OP was never able to verify if the phone was on Band 12. VoLTE works on Band 2 and Band 4 with T-mobile on the 6P, but Band 12 is still unconfirmed.
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Looks like T-Mobile volte is working on the 6p according to the member daboyal006 with a 64gb obe...see his General section thread.
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Assuming everyone knows the answer to this by now, but Des at T-Mobile confirmed on twitter that Wifi calling is working out of the box. https://twitter.com/askdes/status/648936588148371456
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awesome this is great info!!!!
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awesome this is great info!!!!
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Can someone explain what the big deal is with WiFi calling?
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Can someone explain what the big deal is with WiFi calling?
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It's awesome in places you don't have great cell service you can make calls over WiFi.
My old apartment didn't have service but I had internet so it was the only means I had to make calls. It's pretty self explanatory if you don't need it its not gonna make any difference to you.
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Just read the thread you mentioned. The OP was never able to verify if the phone was on Band 12. VoLTE works on Band 2 and Band 4 with T-mobile on the 6P, but Band 12 is still unconfirmed.
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Aside from better coverage in buildings, we don't need band 12.
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Aside from better coverage in buildings, we don't need band 12.
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I suppose it's possible in certain areas that band 12 may be the only LTE available. In that case I would say you need it.
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Aside from better coverage in buildings, we don't need band 12.
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People like myself would benefit from it, I don't have at home wifi and I pretty much use hotspot for everything. I use about 100 gigs a month with the T-Mobile $80 plan and the service in my house is not so great. As soon as I step outside though.. that's a different story. Most of the time I set my phone next to a window or something to even get decent service. But that's such a hassle. It would be nice to have a strong LTE signal inside my house. Definitely make my life a lot easier.. haha
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I use about 100 gigs a month with the T-Mobile $80 plan and the service in my house is not so great.
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Wow. I guess the unlimited is really unlimited.
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Wow. I guess the unlimited is really unlimited.
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Lol netflix and youtube adds up. You're not suppose to be able to tether more than I think 15 gigs with the $80 plan
but for some reason whenever I stream youtube or netflix or even play online on my PS4 it just counts as my regular data.
And even sometimes when I use the hotspot on my computer it doesn't actually count towards it. I think it might be because I use chrome.
But in my opinion why pay extra for home internet when I could have all in one with my phone.
I work in a cave. I rely on wifi calling. This was a huge letdown last year with the nexus 6. And I don't think band 12 will ever get me service in the caves. Ha
At least it came to the N6. Took them 4-5 months longer than they anticipated, but hey it laid the framework for the 6P to have it baked in.
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I work in a cave. I rely on wifi calling. This was a huge letdown last year with the nexus 6. And I don't think band 12 will ever get me service in the caves. Ha
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With the 5X WiFi calling and VoLTE worked out of the box. Band 12 does not work yet but given the hardware supports it I imagine it will only require a software update one T-Mobile finishes the certification process.
On reddit AMA, a google rep said band 12 would be functioning by ship date. Seeing as the 6P has been shipping has anyone been able to confirm band 12 support?
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On reddit AMA, a google rep said band 12 would be functioning by ship date. Seeing as the 6P has been shipping has anyone been able to confirm band 12 support?
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Mine arrives tomorrow. I'm not in a band 12 area. Is there any way to confirm otherwise?
Is WiFi calling supposed to work on the prepaid 5gb plan. If I activate the option it shows WiFi calling in quick settings but I can't make calls or texts.