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Thinking about getting one..... Advice?

So I used and loved my Dell steak for a good year or so and I upgraded to an HTC vivid yesterday. The phone is fantastic, but I definitely miss the large screen. How is the Note for former streak users? Will it work on AT&T lte here in Dallas, TX? Is it worth selling the vivid and spending 800 bones on? What do you guys think?
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no lte but from the engadget review of the vivid, I would at least get a galaxy s2 skyrocket

PolishDude said:
no lte but from the engadget review of the vivid, I would at least get a galaxy s2 skyrocket
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I gotta say, there's a lot of things that I find different about the vivid than in the Engadget review. Check out some of the comments in that thread. I spent well over an hour deciding which one I wanted. But this isn't about that. I think if the Note worked on AT&T's lte I would jump on the Note.

I'm a former Streak user and I've just upgraded to a Note. Loving it, although being a former Streak user means I'm not overwhelmed.
IMHO the Streak was a massively underestimated device, and sadly I think the Note may be heading the same way. And all because it's a bit big .
My first mobile (NEC P3) was humungously bigger than the Note and only had 4-line LCD display - the P3 was a real struggle to put in a jean pocket , the Note is definitely not and that's all that matters surely ? What is it with the "how it looks up to your ear" angst
The reason I upgraded to the Note is the increased performance, resolution, drawing/note taking ability and a better chance of getting decent and timely OS upgrades.
Can't help you with the connectivity questions (I'm in UK), but it seems a shame that in the US it's so hard to get these answers for you early adopters thinking of importing. Can't the US journos who review these things get the answers ?

trilotus said:
I'm a former Streak user and I've just upgraded to a Note. Loving it, although being a former Streak user means I'm not overwhelmed.
IMHO the Streak was a massively underestimated device, and sadly I think the Note may be heading the same way. And all because it's a bit big .
My first mobile (NEC P3) was humungously bigger than the Note and only had 4-line LCD display - the P3 was a real struggle to put in a jean pocket , the Note is definitely not and that's all that matters surely ? What is it with the "how it looks up to your ear" angst
The reason I upgraded to the Note is the increased performance, resolution, drawing/note taking ability and a better chance of getting decent and timely OS upgrades.
Can't help you with the connectivity questions (I'm in UK), but it seems a shame that in the US it's so hard to get these answers for you early adopters thinking of importing. Can't the US journos who review these things get the answers ?
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Fantastic points of view! I miss my large screen quite a bit, but lte here in Dallas is incredible and worth taking the hit. I've been finding that reviewers are reporting speeds that people get with hspa+ here as lte speeds. I've been getting a consistent 35 to 45mbps download speeds. I find that incredibly strange. If the Note can access those kind of speeds here in Dallas, it would certainly be a dream device to say the least. And definitely worth the cash.

Something I did to really sell me on the device (I dont have it... yet) is I went to best buy and dinked around with the Galaxy Player 5. It is running 2.3, is huge and still rather thin, which is the closest simulation to the Note I can think of. The people looked at me weird when I was trying to slide it in my pocket, but it confirmed that a device that huge can still comfortably fit.
Just a warning... as has been said, if one goes that big, Im not sure how one could ever go smaller...
and btw... first post

I had the streak. The note is better in every way!!! 21 MBPS at a desktop resolution while on the web at 1200 x 800 is much better for me than 50 MBPS on a smaller, less resolution screen. I am on wi fi most of the time anyway.

It looks like it does support lte according to Engadget's review, but it's very vague...

Reclaim said:
It looks like it does support lte according to Engadget's review, but it's very vague...
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Unless you wait for the korean version (which still might not work) you will not get LTE on the Note.

Reclaim said:
I gotta say, there's a lot of things that I find different about the vivid than in the Engadget review. Check out some of the comments in that thread. I spent well over an hour deciding which one I wanted. But this isn't about that. I think if the Note worked on AT&T's lte I would jump on the Note.
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LTE won't be coming to most areas till 2015 on At&t.
All LTE means is worse battery life, more bulk, and most likely a worse processor. Just look at the skyrocket.
There really is no need for LTE on phones either. HSPA+ allows me to stream 1080p without stopping.
If you want LTE go buy a SGS2 ****rocket.
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xAnimal5 said:
LTE won't be coming to most areas till 2015 on At&t.
All LTE means is worse battery life, more bulk, and most likely a worse processor. Just look at the skyrocket.
There really is no need for LTE on phones either. HSPA+ allows me to stream 1080p without stopping.
If you want LTE go buy a SGS2 ****rocket.
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Are you joking? If you haven't noticed I live in Dallas and own an HTC Vivid. I'm taking great advantage of LTE right now. It's fantastic. Which is why I want the Note to have it. I'll also vouch that my battery life is no worse than normal on a typical Android phone. Your angry reply is either full of idiocy or misinformation. You have no idea what I do with my phone nor if I it need or not. I believe everyone is different. Hence the reason why we come to this site; to be different. 2015? Why did you even bother posting with such wrong information?
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None of the current versions of Gnote supports LTE.
The korean version will but I dont know if they are in the same band ( chances are no )
Eventually they will release it in US too. Here the chance that its going to be LTE is high. This might easily take 4-6 months.
If LTE were to come to my place, i would love to enjoy the LTE speeds too....
Its never too much when it comes to internet speed

Reclaim said:
Are you joking? If you haven't noticed I live in Dallas and own an HTC Vivid. I'm taking great advantage of LTE right now. It's fantastic. Which is why I want the Note to have it. I'll also vouch that my battery life is no worse than normal on a typical Android phone. Your angry reply is either full of idiocy or misinformation. You have no idea what I do with my phone nor if I it need or not. I believe everyone is different. Hence the reason why we come to this site; to be different. 2015? Why did you even bother posting with such wrong information?
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Wasn't an angry reply. At&t hasn't even rolled out LTE in NY yet. It's about to be 2012 and AT&T only has LTE in about 8 cities, not including NYC. By the time AT&T covers all of the US at this rate, it will be about 2015 or '16. I don't understand how that's wrong info? Most of the US doesn't even have HSPA+ yet. I'm lucky to live in the small portion of HSPA+ area.
The ****rocket is heavier enough to notice a diff. when holding it in your hand against the og SGSII. It has a bulkier design and is choppy, again LTE is in about 8 cities.
How would I know where you live? I'm on the mobile version if you couldn't tell... Even if I was on the full site, I don't look to see where people live... that's just sketchy.
About your data usage and how it fits your "lifestyle". Unless you're illegally downloading movies, games, or other copyrighted files, there really is no point in having LTE. My home wifi sucks so I use my phone to download things occasionally, HSPA+ works fine and is fast enough and I watch netflix, download apps, and youtube vids on my unlim. data plan. LTE is also kind of pointless unless you have unlimited data as well.
Anyway before you start calling people idiots, use your head. LTE has been around for a long time now with VZW. It took them about 4 years to roll out their LTE network and it still doesn't give coverage to everyone. Now, since I'm "idiotic", correct my math... 2011+4=2015.
Did I duz gud Mr. Genius from Dallas, u iz 2 sm4rt 4 me?
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drgopoos said:
None of the current versions of Gnote supports LTE.
The korean version will but I dont know if they are in the same band ( chances are no )
Eventually they will release it in US too. Here the chance that its going to be LTE is high. This might easily take 4-6 months.
If LTE were to come to my place, i would love to enjoy the LTE speeds too....
Its never too much when it comes to internet speed
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Great! very informative!
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xAnimal5 said:
Wasn't an angry reply. At&t hasn't even rolled out LTE in NY yet. It's about to be 2012 and AT&T only has LTE in about 8 cities, not including NYC. By the time AT&T covers all of the US at this rate, it will be about 2015 or '16. I don't understand how that's wrong info? Most of the US doesn't even have HSPA+ yet. I'm lucky to live in the small portion of HSPA+ area.
The ****rocket is heavier enough to notice a diff. when holding it in your hand against the og SGSII. It has a bulkier design and is choppy, again LTE is in about 8 cities.
How would I know where you live? I'm on the mobile version if you couldn't tell... Even if I was on the full site, I don't look to see where people live... that's just sketchy.
About your data usage and how it fits your "lifestyle". Unless you're illegally downloading movies, games, or other copyrighted files, there really is no point in having LTE. My home wifi sucks so I use my phone to download things occasionally, HSPA+ works fine and is fast enough and I watch netflix, download apps, and youtube vids on my unlim. data plan. LTE is also kind of pointless unless you have unlimited data as well.
Anyway before you start calling people idiots, use your head. LTE has been around for a long time now with VZW. It took them about 4 years to roll out their LTE network and it still doesn't give coverage to everyone. Now, since I'm "idiotic", correct my math... 2011+4=2015.
Did I duz gud Mr. Genius from Dallas, u iz 2 sm4rt 4 me?
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My location is right there under my screen name. Again, you don't know what my lifestyle is like and I'll tell you now, it has nothing to do with illegal downloads. more about streaming from my cloud via pogo plug. Next, you clearly have a problem with reading things thoroughly as I clearly wrote Dallas, not Houston. So to answer your question: No. You didn't "duz gud". And if you think the weight difference between the skyrocket and the sgs2 is a big enough difference, then you should probably do a few curls with a dish towel to get a little stronger. As far as internet speeds go, you have crappy wifi? It's comparable to when you girlfriend says "It was good for me too". She just doesn't have anything better to compare it to. It's pretty awesome getting 45mbps on my phone as others that have experienced it can attest, and as they say; once you go LTE, you can't go back to slower speeds... or you can't go back to playboy! (well no one really says that, but it's awesome!) Think about what technology we will have soon that might require more data or faster speeds. Thinking what you have now is good enough technology wise is short sighted. I'd like to add that I still get unlimited data. It would be kinda lame if I didn't have that. Hey, at least we agree on something! Last but not least this article on engadget indicates that LTE Advanced will launch in 2013. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/atandt-commits-to-lte-advanced-deployment-in-2013-hesse-and-mead/
That means either most people will get LTE sooner that later or some of us will most likely be enjoying near 1gbps while HSPA+ is still good enough for you.
Woooo! Can I get an Amen????

Reclaim said:
My location is right there under my screen name. Again, you don't know what my lifestyle is like and I'll tell you now, it has nothing to do with illegal downloads. more about streaming from my cloud via pogo plug. Next, you clearly have a problem with reading things thoroughly as I clearly wrote Dallas, not Houston. So to answer your question: No. You didn't "duz gud". And if you think the weight difference between the skyrocket and the sgs2 is a big enough difference, then you should probably do a few curls with a dish towel to get a little stronger. As far as internet speeds go, you have crappy wifi? It's comparable to when you girlfriend says "It was good for me too". She just doesn't have anything better to compare it to. It's pretty awesome getting 45mbps on my phone as others that have experienced it can attest, and as they say; once you go LTE, you can't go back to slower speeds... or you can't go back to playboy! (well no one really says that, but it's awesome!) Think about what technology we will have soon that might require more data or faster speeds. Thinking what you have now is good enough technology wise is short sighted. I'd like to add that I still get unlimited data. It would be kinda lame if I didn't have that. Hey, at least we agree on something! Last but not least this article on engadget indicates that LTE Advanced will launch in 2013. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/atandt-commits-to-lte-advanced-deployment-in-2013-hesse-and-mead/
That means either most people will get LTE sooner that later or some of us will most likely be enjoying near 1gbps while HSPA+ is still good enough for you.
Woooo! Can I get an Amen????
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Where did I type Houston?
Oh so now you are resorting to muscular insults. Well before I say anything, I bench 250 and hit the gym every other day, the reason I care about weight is I don't want an ugly fat phone that could be lighter.
I honestly do not see any use for 1gbps download speeds on a MOBILE Phone. Don't get ahead of yourself. PC's don't even require that kind of speed, so why would a phone need it?
Back to LTE... cool you get 45mbps, now name some practical uses of that speed. Doing anything that strains internet connection would not require even a tenth of that speed.
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xAnimal5 said:
Where did I type Houston?
Oh so now you are resorting to muscular insults. Well before I say anything, I bench 250 and hit the gym every other day, the reason I care about weight is I don't want an ugly fat phone that could be lighter.
I honestly do not see any use for 1gbps download speeds on a MOBILE Phone. Don't get ahead of yourself. PC's don't even require that kind of speed, so why would a phone need it?
Back to LTE... cool you get 45mbps, now name some practical uses of that speed. Doing anything that strains internet connection would not require even a tenth of that speed.
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So you edited your post via xda premium and you try to call me out? Others might not be able to tell, but you and I both know. With that said, since you resorted to trickery and lies, you no longer deserve replies. you lose.
Back on topic; Thanks for the feedback guys! I look forward to being a future Note owner with you!

You two need to get a room!!
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Prozac69 said:
You two need to get a room!!
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hahahaha

Reclaim said:
So you edited your post via xda premium and you try to call me out? Others might not be able to tell, but you and I both know. With that said, since you resorted to trickery and lies, you no longer deserve replies. you lose.
Back on topic; Thanks for the feedback guys! I look forward to being a future Note owner with you!
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lol I changed it before you quoted me? It's in your quote . Trickery haha
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Sting or wing !?

About to buy a Xoom , would like to know where the Xoom wifi stands in terms of development compared to 3G version!?
Since I don't use 3G much I'd like wifi only but would be helpful to know if am not compromising on anything else.
Also what's the average Web time you get on your 3G or WiFi ?!
Appreciate your suggestions.
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ryan8r said:
About to buy a Xoom , would like to know where the Xoom wifi stands in terms of development compared to 3G version!?
Since I don't use 3G much I'd like wifi only but would be helpful to know if am not compromising on anything else.
Also what's the average Web time you get on your 3G or WiFi ?!
Appreciate your suggestions.
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I am using the 4g LTE Xoom so I can only speak about that. I don’t use the 4g often, that’s why I am only on a 1Gig plan with Verizon. I think the Xoom has great battery life. I can go for almost 2 days of average usage with no problem. Personally I prefer charging it each day so I almost never go below 50% battery level.
I don’t know much about the units supplied in India but I can’t imagine that the firmware is that much different than the US version.

Vote for wing by me
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4G version here, bought it day after release day. I have yet to activate it so I guess I could have gotten by quite easily with the wi-fi only version! However, my company provides me an unlimited wireless hot spot so if I didn't have that I'm sure I would have activated it by now. I kinda wish I had jumped on the $20/mo plan when it was available but oh well.
Battery life is outstanding. It actually seems to have improved with ICS too. I also charge mine every night but if I happen to forget its no big deal, it'll still get me through the next day easily.

ryan8r said:
About to buy a Xoom , would like to know where the Xoom wifi stands in terms of development compared to 3G version!?
Since I don't use 3G much I'd like wifi only but would be helpful to know if am not compromising on anything else.
Also what's the average Web time you get on your 3G or WiFi ?!
Appreciate your suggestions.
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WiFi only, it gets all OS upgrades before the other versions.
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I prefer wifi but I've never tried the 4g one so.. yeah but also if you get the wifi one you can put on the us firmware and get ics instantly. Also you could root on put on a custom rom.

AT&T Note or Int

posted this in i717 forum but would also love input from international note owners as well
i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.

I actually have both. There isn't much difference other than processor and LTE so i suggest pick what's important to you and run with it. I've only have the international version for about a day now so i can't comment on battery life as opposed to AT&T's version but then again your in a actual LTE Area where as i am not so that wasn't a factor at all for me. I will probably get rid of my AT&T version soon.
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bkeaver said:
I actually have both. There isn't much difference other than processor and LTE so i suggest pick what's important to you and run with it. I've only have the international version for about a day now so i can't comment on battery life as opposed to AT&T's version but then again your in a actual LTE Area where as i am not so that wasn't a factor at all for me. I will probably get rid of my AT&T version soon.
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The only real problem on facing is that I do love LTE however its very on and off for me its not definite LTE wherever I am in the city which is kinda swaying me back and both between the two
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LTE won't be in my area for so long that it just didn't matter and to be honest 6 or 7 mbps down and 1.5 to 2mbps up is sufficient enough for me.
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What's more important to you? If you like the different ROMS, development, and possibly getting faster upgrades to the latest OS, then the International Note. If you like better performance, then the International Note. If you like data download speeds on LTE or the ability to use your phone on either AT&T OR T-Mobile, then the AT&T Note.

samtruongg said:
posted this in i717 forum but would also love input from international note owners as well
i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.
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No need to think. Just get the International. It will have more diverse dev support than the AT&T version will ever get just because of the processor.
Unless you need LTE.

Int all the way. No discussion needed.
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Never had att version. But the international version development is awesome.......unless you really, really can't live without LTE
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I would go for the international every day of the week. I really love the home button.
But of course, if you can't live without the LTE then you should go for AT&T.
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I say int'l all day.....my buddy has the AT&T version and it honestly seems laggy to me

I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....

I have owned both. Ditched the ATT model simply for the dev support over here. Internationals battery life is better too.
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mumboender said:
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
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not 100% true, yes its true you dont have manufactures service and that part is true but there are 3rd party warranties that will service it like squaretrade.com for one.

bkeaver said:
not 100% true, yes its true you dont have manufactures service and that part is true but there are 3rd party warranties that will service it like squaretrade.com for one.
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Note to self...research squaretrade.com...
Are you already using a 3rd party warranty? If so would you mind posting some quick facts on it?

mumboender said:
Note to self...research squaretrade.com...
Are you already using a 3rd party warranty? If so would you mind posting some quick facts on it?
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here is a screen print for the warranty on squaretrade for my intl note...

mumboender said:
I have an international and I love it BUT I since anyone on this forum uses and abuses their devices, I would seriously consider the AT&T due to the fact you will have no manufacturer service for the international here in the U.S....a 600 brick is far more painful than a 200 brick....
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A jig and Odin can usually get you outta anything...lol Except a super hard brick

Int note all the way. even stock.. <--better for me anyway. to me it pointless to have LTE with capped data... do you really need that much speed to check facebook and emails lol <----for me no.. plus i use wifi 9 times out of ten at home.. now if we had true unlimited data. then LTE would rock. streaming movies and music etc. but alas capped data you will chew that up in no time..
other points for me. home button.. faster updates vs att.. no lag what so ever compared to the att..( preordered the att note but sold it too laggy and battery life was low ) <---batt life is awesome can go an 8 hour day. normal ,,facebook, emails, text etc, and still have like 80% left.. auto sync is off of course.. as well as gps and bluetooth..
anyway my point the int note works for me over the att lte version.
but agree either better proc/batt life vs lte its your call bud..

the only thing I'm stuck on right now is the lack of a warranty =\
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samtruongg said:
the only thing I'm stuck on right now is the lack of a warranty =\
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That should definitely be the only thing you should worry about... getting the int' version is a NOBRAINER unless you care about LTE...

spiritcrusher33 said:
Int note all the way. even stock.. <--better for me anyway. to me it pointless to have LTE with capped data... do you really need that much speed to check facebook and emails lol <----for me no.. plus i use wifi 9 times out of ten at home.. now if we had true unlimited data. then LTE would rock. streaming movies and music etc. but alas capped data you will chew that up in no time..
other points for me. home button.. faster updates vs att.. no lag what so ever compared to the att..( preordered the att note but sold it too laggy and battery life was low ) <---batt life is awesome can go an 8 hour day. normal ,,facebook, emails, text etc, and still have like 80% left.. auto sync is off of course.. as well as gps and bluetooth..
anyway my point the int note works for me over the att lte version.
but agree either better proc/batt life vs lte its your call bud..
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Hey....you live like 45 minutes from me....lol

Who really needs LTE?

Everyone is crying about the N4 not having LTE but honestly, who needs that? Aren't you guys connected to a wifi anyway for most of the time? HSPA or HSPA+ or whatever it's called fast enough to me.
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Actually in my school campus there is highspeed wifi. The only time I need data is while I am driving or somewhere else. Also many times, devices switch off wifi to save battery. This can cause live updates to stop coming. That doesn't happen on mobile data.

Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.

edgeball said:
Everyone is crying about the N4 not having LTE but honestly, who needs that? Aren't you guys connected to a wifi anyway for most of the time? HSPA or HSPA+ or whatever it's called fast enough to me.
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As a T-Mo user, not me. But in a phone that is supposed to be the cream of the crop with all the latest technologies, I can kinda see why some people are slightly butthurt it's not included. With that being said, I definitely do not think it should be a deal breaker like some are claiming.

Don't get me wrong, but I love the speeds that 4g Lte offers, but paying for it its kind of expensive.
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Keep in mind, there's always got to be a huge leap forward every year. For the past 3-4 years this has been the amount of cores and ram (specific chipsets aside). What the hell can they do next year, octo-core phone?

Another fanboi trying to justify no LTE... I swear these forums are worse than Apples sometimes.
I personally don't want LTE because there is no unlimited plan, it's too expensive and coverage sucks here in the UK. However am I going to start trying to tell people who are on LTE and enjoy it that they're wrong? Not releasing a new top end Smart Phone with an LTE model is a mistake.. just like it is a mistake to not have a Micro SD slot or a 32GB model.
This phone ha a small niche, it's for people who want to buy a mobile outright, however if you're on contract and getting an upgrade or signing for a new contract you might as well go for another mobile.

Promythyus said:
Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.
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I thought LTE wasn't standard, but some Verizon-specific thing? If this is the case... I can see why the Nexus 4 doesn't have it... But do correct me if I'm wrong I've only heard of LTE with Verizon, but haven't actually looked into it at all (I just know it's something I'll probably not use).

Promythyus said:
Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.
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People need to know what the Nexus program is...
Those people know what the Nexus program is
Listen .... Myriam Joire http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/07/e...57-11-07-2012/
Read ... JR Raphael http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...id_at_its_best
Listen... Brian Klug http://www.anandtech.com/show/6438/t...cast-episode-9

All 4G helps with is downloading things. Browsing experience won't change much above 5mbps, after that it's all down to hardware/software

Promythyus said:
Why should a brand new flagship phone NOT support the latest mobile standards?! If there were no need for LTE it wouldn't be available because nobody would use it.
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The lg optimus g has lte, its also twice the price. Is lte worth an extra $300 to you?

Personally it would be nice to have LTE because I live in a big city in Canada where there are 3 big carriers that offer LTE using the same bands. I always like to have the latest tech but other than that the nexus 4 seems to fit most of my needs with the DC-HSPA which my carrier also offers. I understand the cost issue but that aside if e phone has LTE than everyone will be happy because places without LTE people can still enjoy HSPA.
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People need to know what the Nexus program is...
Those people know what the Nexus program is
Listen .... Myriam Joire http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/07/e...57-11-07-2012/
Read ... JR Raphael http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...id_at_its_best
Listen... Brian Klug http://www.anandtech.com/show/6438/t...cast-episode-9
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Just curious, has Google ever officially described what the Nexus program is? Where can I find out more information about it rather than just taking the words from third party people?

Never needed LTE and probably won't need it until it's shoved down my throat in the future. My current carrier only has 3 mbps (real performance) data connections and I only use it for Facebook, email, checking websites, so I don't really think I need LTE. Though, I'd be happy if they would at least give us true HSPA+ speeds at 21 mbps though...
deltatux

I fully blame Verizon for botching the Galaxy Nexus release for this. It's just too much of a burden for Google to support. It takes Verizon and Sprint forever to roll OS updates, whereas other carriers just push the updates when Google releases them.
I will only get Nexus phones, and am on Verzion, so it's disappointing, but I know why,

Unless there's a carrier with LTE that doesn't require a contract, then I have absolutely no need for it.

No LTE in a new flagship phone = bad
But hey, the technology isn't wise spread yet either, so the benefit would only be to the US and some European countries. So I believe thay Google/LG decided not to hurry with putting that tech in their new phone for now. Nexus 5 is 100% gonna have it, or maybe LG is gonna release a 4G model later

No LTE here anyway. But its rumored to be right around the corner..
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My data is like 700 KB/s tops lol. I'm fine with it, I'll be fine with HSPA+.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
Euroskank AOKP (Build 5 - 4.1.2)
Matrix Kernel (24.0 - CFS)
Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/200)
Wheatly (Screen Off) (400/200)
Deep Idle (N/A - Noop)
BLX (N/A - Inverted Apps)
Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)

The speeds of LTE are awesome. Everything else that goes with it is horrible.
The dual radios, lead to battery drain. My phone likes to get caught between 3G and 4G and I'm left with a hot phone in my pocket without signal.
The price of LTE, Verizon is just so expensive.
The fact that you can't make one phone fit all, all LTE implementations are different.

OmgitzFire said:
Unless there's a carrier with LTE that doesn't require a contract, then I have absolutely no need for it.
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This is exactly it, a Nexus can't be a Nexus with contracts and carriers crap.

[Q] LTE in JOP40D??

Does anyone know whether the latest build for Nexus 4 (JOP40D) still has the LTE capability or not?

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Does anyone know whether the latest build for Nexus 4 (JOP40D) still has the LTE capability or not?
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Still working for me. Just tested. Running JOP40D.
-this would be better in the Q&A section but hope it helped.
Sent from my Nexus 4

Uh60m Pilot said:
Still working for me. Just tested. Running JOP40D.
-this would be better in the Q&A section but hope it helped.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Thanks a ton!. i will update now.

I'm getting anywhere from 1 to 2MB/sec with T-Mobile's $30 Wallmart plan for uploads, I can't imagine myself ever leaving this behind..
Don't get me wrong however, I think having the LTE work is awesome, especially since T-Mobile is said to be rolling out LTE on the same band the phone supports.
Not sure if I'd trade battery life and phone heat for the extra speed, but that's just me.
P.S. Sorry if too off topic.

Uh60m Pilot said:
Still working for me. Just tested. Running JOP40D.
-this would be better in the Q&A section but hope it helped.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Shemploo said:
I'm getting anywhere from 1 to 2MB/sec with T-Mobile's $30 Wallmart plan for uploads, I can't imagine myself ever leaving this behind..
Don't get me wrong however, I think having the LTE work is awesome, especially since T-Mobile is said to be rolling out LTE on the same band the phone supports.
Not sure if I'd trade battery life and phone heat for the extra speed, but that's just me.
P.S. Sorry if too off topic.
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I am in Canada for a while, and having to option to turn on LTE on demand and use highspeed is a great asset IMHO.