Planning to pick up the Nexus 4
I never owned a nexus before, so I never experienced soft screen buttons
Currently using S2
On paper is S2 4.3" vs N4 4.7"
But then with the softbutton on N4 would it be a smaller usable screen?
No. The Nexus 4 has more usable screen space.
It's not smaller, the buttons don't take up too much space, and when watching videos they go away, and when this phone gets cm you will be able to hide the navbar from the power menu until you need it
Personally, after having done a little number crunching, I don't think it's really all too far fetched to imagine the Note 3 having a 6.3" screen, assuming certain things happen. Here's my thinking:
The physical dimensions of the current Note 2 (not the screen) are 151mm tall by 80.5mm wide, which yields a hypotenuse of ~173.3mm.
A ~6.3" (160mm diag) 16:9 ratio screen would be about 139.5mm tall by ~78.4mm wide, which can just about squeeze into the current body's form factor, if you remove the physical buttons and go with a ~1mm bezel on the sides (compared to the current ~5.7mm bezel).
A ~1mm bezel is insane, and honestly I doubt it's a realistic expectation. However, if the Note 3 returns to the original Note's width of ~83mm, that would make room for a ~2.3mm bezel on a 6.3" screen. That's still insanely thin, but maybe just about doable.
Now, here's another thing to consider: Screen Resolution.
As it currently stands, it's much easier to make a higher resolution LCD display than an AMOLED display (which is why our 5.55" AMOLED displays are only 720p when there are 5" 1080p LCD's). It's currently difficult for AMOLED to match those levels of pixel density before running into quality issues like we've seen in previous AMOLED generations. That's to be expected; AMOLED technology is still relatively new compared to LCD, so we're still working on perfecting it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we've yet seen an RGB (not PenTile) AMOLED display break the 300ppi barrier yet. So far, the Note 2's display has the highest RGB pixel density that we've ever seen yet (again, the key here is RGB, not PenTile).
If the Note 3 has a 6.3" screen, and if indeed it's going to be 1080p, then that would mean a pixel density of ~350ppi. I believe that jumping from the current ~265ppi (RGB) to ~350ppi (RBG) is incredibly significant, and possibly unrealistic actually... So this, to me, suggests one of two likely possibilities:
A.) A 6.3" 1080p PenTile display.
or
B.) An RGB (using the current sub-pixel layout in the Note 2) display, but at lower than 1080p resolution; perhaps something like 1600x900 instead.
Option B would yield a ~291ppi density, and seems like a realistic and reasonable improvement from the current generation.
Either option is seems like a reasonable possibility, however, in my personal opinion, I would bet that the 1080p PenTile option seems more likely.
So, to sum everything up, here's what I would predict for the Note 3 for dimensions and screen:
Chassis:
151 - 155 mm Height
83 - 85 mm Width
8 - 10 mm Depth
Buttonless/Full touch screen design
Screen:
6.3" (160mm) Diagonal, 16:9
1080p PenTile SAMOLED (More likely)
or
1600x900 RGB SAMOLED (Less likely)
maybe
1080p RGB SAMOLED (Least likely, but who knows!)
I know a lot of this may have been boring, but I hope it was informative, and perhaps brings some more clarity to the rumors that have been floating around.
Let me know your thoughts!
My thoughts are there is already a thread about this.
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i would really want a non pentile screen and a 1080p screen...
Nice thorough post.
I personally won't buy a larger form factor. So, whatever the max screen size is within the current physical dimension is what it should be.
If the form factor goes larger I might as well buy a 7" tablet.
Most said that the Note 2 size was too large.
After, was considered a normal phone size for them.
Note 3, might have the same procedure.
My thoughts are that if it actually turns out to be 6.3" then they better call it 'Galaxy tab mini'
The note 2's screen at first was a bit of a handful but I've gotten used to it now I've had it for a few months but 6.3".....that's a bit over the top in my opinion.
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If the display isn't downgrade from rgb, and is close to 6inches without much dimensions bigger then i will upgrade to it.
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The problem with a 6.3" device, IMO, would be:
Should one hold it like a phone (one-handed) or like a tablet (two-handed)?
I guess the design of the device should hold the answer (bevel and of course dimensions).
I believe this is yet again a wait-and-see moment for Samsung. When the original Note was launched, everyone had their comments. But the sales proved, one way or another, that "phablet" is feasible. 5.3" isn't really too big! Now we stretched it to 5.5" and the sales are now even stronger! So if they can find a way to make the user experience feasible for a 6.3" phone-tablet hybrid (or whatever marketing they employ for that device), then who's to say now that it's good or not?
I'm happy with my 5.5" Note II. If the Note III proves to be successful at 6.3", that's a nice feat. But I'm sticking to my Note II (for the next two years!)
I'd prefer if Samsung stuck with physical buttons as soft keys on screen take up a lot of real estate. It would be a waste to have a large screen that has a 1/2" row permanently used by buttons.
Not to mention that soft keys get in the way of gaming and are often inadvertently pressed.
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Simple..
Penta-Core Processor
3 Gigabyte of RAM
..
Profit!
I don't know why but I want it..
EP2008 said:
I'd prefer if Samsung stuck with physical buttons as soft keys on screen take up a lot of real estate. It would be a waste to have a large screen that has a 1/2" row permanently used by buttons.
Not to mention that soft keys get in the way of gaming and are often inadvertently pressed.
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@rbiter said:
My thoughts are there is already a thread about this.
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I respectfully disagree. Whereas the other thread talking about the Note III merely links to an outside source regarding potential screen size, and then asks the simple "Will you buy it?" question, my thread here, though on a related topic, goes into much greater detail behind the speculations for the Note III, and encourages a much broader discussion about the screen technology in particular.
If Samsung does go with a 6.3" screen design for the Note III, I hope that they finally stop using the Phone UI across the whole platform and instead go with something more like the Phablet UI (like on the Nexus 7). Maybe even incorporate certain PA features like per-app-density and per-app-layout etc.
Gof fig they would want to make it bigger. :silly: I like the 5.5 and would love to see them work bettering the guts of the phone. More power!!!!!!!!!
EP2008 said:
I'd prefer if Samsung stuck with physical buttons as soft keys on screen take up a lot of real estate. It would be a waste to have a large screen that has a 1/2" row permanently used by buttons.
Not to mention that soft keys get in the way of gaming and are often inadvertently pressed.
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great
I like idea of a bigger screen, but remember the Note 1 was uncomfortable to hold (in one hand) for me. Although the Note 2 was only slightly narrower it was a massive difference and I have never had issues holding it in one hand. The slight curvature change also helped here. 6" might be my comfort limit
No thanks
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
So, to sum everything up, here's what I would predict for the Note 3 for dimensions and screen:
Chassis:
151 - 155 mm Height
83 - 85 mm Width
8 - 10 mm Depth
Buttonless/Full touch screen design
Screen:
6.3" (160mm) Diagonal, 16:9
1080p PenTile SAMOLED (More likely)
or
1600x900 RGB SAMOLED (Less likely)
maybe
1080p RGB SAMOLED (Least likely, but who knows!)
I know a lot of this may have been boring, but I hope it was informative, and perhaps brings some more clarity to the rumors that have been floating around.
Let me know your thoughts!
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Firstly IMHO I think they would keep their button layout. They are trying to make their product lineup using standard elements.
Secondly, I doubt that they would go back to pentile AMOLED. they have faced too much heat with that piece of tech. And also doing 1080p on a non-pentile AMOLED is way tough for a new tech like it is. So lower res is the way they'll go.
Other than that I agree with your predictions.
The phone is already too big for most people.. would be crazy if they make the phone any bigger.
Well, I love this phone and I have been looking for something to replace my Desire S and nothing matched what I was after until the Mini came out!
Anyways, I have two gripes with the phone.
Firstly the PPI...why the hell give it such a low ppi compared to other phones and also considering the screen size. The Galaxy Ace 2 has more, so did my Desire S and when I compared it to my Desire S you could clearly see the lack of pixel density. A real shame, as that's the ONLY main feature I was let down by. With it being a S3 'Mini' you would have thought it would be a crisper screen.
Secondly is the power button during screen lock.
You can put the screen on with the power button, but hold and press again while on lock screen and it gives you the restart/power off options....
Is there away to stop that?
MalekoUK said:
Well, I love this phone and I have been looking for something to replace my Desire S and nothing matched what I was after until the Mini came out!
Anyways, I have two gripes with the phone.
Firstly the PPI...why the hell give it such a low ppi compared to other phones and also considering the screen size. The Galaxy Ace 2 has more, so did my Desire S and when I compared it to my Desire S you could clearly see the lack of pixel density. A real shame, as that's the ONLY main feature I was let down by. With it being a S3 'Mini' you would have thought it would be a crisper screen.
Secondly is the power button during screen lock.
You can put the screen on with the power button, but hold and press again while on lock screen and it gives you the restart/power off options....
Is there away to stop that?
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Number one: Blame pentile display
Number two: feature of almost all phones
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Must be because the power button is on the side, so gets pressed more easily!
The screen PPI is still a let down, just adding 20 more pixels per inch would have sorted it
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Today I saw both s4 and note 3 in showroom side by side and s4 felt quite dull well nite 3 was much brighter abd sharper but afaik s4 has 441 ppi and note 3 has 386ppi tgen why N3 is better than S4 in viewing
For this thing I think I shld change my S4 to N3 coz it has better screen and bigger screen
Anybody reviews
I think you over exaggerating.
I played with a note 3 and in other hand my s4(indoor) and what do you mean sharper? In what way ? You can't see pixels on either of them.
Maybe is a very very little bit brighter but that's it.
Calling s4's screen dull is too much... I mean for f*sake even GS1 and GS2 screens are amazing compared to many devices out there today
Did they both have the same screen settings and brightness?
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Yup
I don't think that's the case. If display is sharper on one device then it's on S4. S4 have 441 ppi density but Note 3 have 386 ppi density so S4 screen have more clearer then Note 3. Although it's hardly noticeable.
I think it's more of display settings then display itself.
Auto adjust screen tone reduces the brightness of whites dramatically even on full brightness.
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Hello my name is Steven! I recently bought a Note 3 around a week ago. Before this I had a Galaxy Note 2 i317. Im just gonna get straight forward with spme things
So the first thing I noticed is how the back feels. The black feels more like leather "its plastic" and little bit more grippy then the white one....(but the white one feels like plastic...blah) Then theirs that weight it's much lighter then Note 2. And the Note 3 is slightly narrower. So just all of this is a great plus. It simply feels better to hold
Screen. .....This screen is just jaw dropping the pixel density is extremely high the whites look white it's amazing. On the note 2 the whites just looked a little blue to me but that's just all changed with the note 3 the screen is crisp the colors are beautiful and and slightly saturated (but not as bad as the note 2) but I like that. Also the brightness is much higher you can easily read or play it outside.
Camera. The camera is just damn good too and the screen helps a lot to here's some pic I took decide for your self there's 1280-720 slow motion video that's takes 1/2 1/4 1/8 of video at 120fps. Also it records 60FPS ( optional) and it looks crazy good and all the other options for sences ect.
Hardware. The power buttion and volume buttons are the same just as clicky. The volume buttons are slighty higher then before "it might affect some people with small hangs". The home button has more of click. Think of the silver bar around the note 2 button and have those together to make a button it self so your not pressing down into the sliver bar. So this makes a bigger more stable button that clicks way better. The pen can be put in ether way. Its like a pen that someone sat on lol its flat on top and bottem. The tip is rubber yay! The pen also works with the capacitive buttons double yay!
Battery. When I heard the battery was only 100mah bigger then the Note 2 I thought holy crap the battery is gonna suck.. I was wrong just becayse its more powerfull and it has a higher res display the battery life is about the same I get roughly 4-5 not bad
So the choice is yours are you getting a Note 3? Let me know! Got any questions? Let me know!
My name is Steven and I am very happy I bought this phone
Welcome to the Note 3 forums! I came from an S4. I was gonna jump to an iPhone cause I hated my S4. But I'm so happy I didn't. I'm a happy customer
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Thank you! That makes two of us. I went to a iphone 4 to a note 2 to a note 3. And to me the display looks like a big iphone if not better eat it apple.
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Sorry gents this conversation belongs in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46091359
Please continue it there.
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Have a great day!