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phones over heat using navigation

does anyone overheat from using navigation? anyone know how to stop this?

Are you oc? Do you have set cpu? Is your phone in direct sunlight on your dash? If you are oc'd get setcpu and usue profiles. Make sure you turn down your speed if the temp gets over 40c
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i did that it still get hot, i turn it down to 346000 still getting hot

By hot, what temps are we talking? And what is your cpu clocked to?

40C i set the clock to 346XXX and still running hot

Yea I noticed driving over the weekend that the g2 definently overheats if navigation is left on for extended periods of time.
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damn after a couple of google search this happen on other android device...theres gotta be a way to solve this, i bet its the polling frequency its trying to poll the thing to damn neear perfect real time therefore making it hotter, i think if we can figure out how to lower the polling interval it will help, but i hate programing so i dont know

Me neither. It's even worse on my Xperia x10.
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Another question is if you have it charging while using navigation as that will definitely make the phone feel like it is overheating since the battery is getting warm from the charge.

mine always overheats lol

are you asking us or are you asking me? lol

Huh. Am I the only one who hasn't had this problem?
I run it on my dash, connected to USB power, constantly navigating and it never gets more than mildly warm. 246MHz-1.49GHz, interactive governor, CM6.1 RC2.

For the question about charging while navigating, yes that will def increase the heat coming from the phone. For guy who is "constantly" navi, are going long distances like over 20 miles at a time or navi short distances?
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Mine overheats (uncomfortable holding) after using Pandora over the night. Still runs fine just hot as F!

i noticed that aswell when navigating with the phone. what can we say we got hot phones eh? yeah yeah lame i know. but i hope this dosn't damage the phone. Btw my phone isnt OC only rooted running CM 1.6 RC 3

The backplate on the G2 is also metal, so it might only feel hotter to your hand as opposed to many other phones which have a plastic backplate. This is actually good for heat dissipation (heat can escape vs. being trapped by the insulating plastic), bad for your hands.

well that brings to me the question when is it consider dangerously hot?? 43C is the max i seen using navi

bump for anyone with a fix

This is nothing new. My N1 got really hot when plugged into the car dock and navigating.
It never caught on fire, and had no permanent damage. The worst part about it was the charger couldn't keep up with the phone. I would get to my destination, take the phone out of the dock, and it dies right away because the battery is dead. I haven't used the G2 for navigation on a long trip yet.
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Is me or this guy been open threads just to complaint about the g2 u may have bad luck with u unit because i never have none of the problems u talking about the zoom problem the resolution problem the overheating problem next thread will be hinges problem
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Is your Nexus 10 getting really hot?

When gaming, it gets so hot that it makes me think "this should definitely not be this hot", I would categorize it as "an unusual amount of heat". It makes me afraid I'm going to melt something on the inside haha so I give it a break. I know it's hard to describe temperature over the internet but is yours getting uncomfortably hot?
Near the top/topleft in landscape

Mine sometimes gets on the warm side, but the Nexus 10 has safeguards to prevent "dangerous" temps (your CPU clock will downclock in increments of 100MHz until the CPU gets cooler, and then spike back up to 1.7GHz; lowest I've seen it go was 800MHz).

Download Cooltool at play store and set up what you want to show as a floating widget. This is how I monitor my cpu, batt temp, ram, wifi strength etc. This way you can be more accurate in determining wether your device is too hot and if you should be worried.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ds.cpuoverlay
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jjdevega said:
Download Cooltool at play store and set up what you want to show as a floating widget. This is how I monitor my cpu, batt temp, ram, wifi strength etc. This way you can be more accurate in determining wether your device is too hot and if you should be worried.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ds.cpuoverlay
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Hey thanks a lot for that! but uhh how hot is too hot for the battery?

Mine gets really damn hot as well near the removable cover. I really pondered removing the cover and back and seeing if I can make vents in the back, with a screen, then I can remove that removable cover while gaming. It's most noticeable during Need for Speed most wanted.

Varekai said:
Mine gets really damn hot as well near the removable cover. I really pondered removing the cover and back and seeing if I can make vents in the back, with a screen, then I can remove that removable cover while gaming. It's most noticeable during Need for Speed most wanted.
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It doesn't really bother me, per say, but I'm just worried that its going to mess it up, but at any rate good to know it's "normal"

Normal: 70 d F
TOO HOT: 95 d F

Mine does that too. I have noticed that the case is starting to warp where the heat is most concentrated... Just to the left side by the power button. Between the power button and the camera. Almost like some glue came off and the casing is separating...
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That's not good

I was using mines for google talk video chat and it got really hot. I checked the temps and it was at 91F.

Ok I did a test again and it went up to 105F. All this just by video chatting. Thats not normal!

Mines getting hot too just an hour of browsing the web and its extremely warm.

abc20000 said:
Ok I did a test again and it went up to 105F. All this just by video chatting. Thats not normal!
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Why do you think that? It's perfectly normal for a chipset like this.

Its not just the top part thats hot like it should be. By holding it with my hands on the side you can feel the heat.

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Its not just the top part thats hot like it should be. By holding it with my hands on the side you can feel the heat.
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If you blast through the battery in a few hours with 3D gaming or the like the battery will get warm, too (40-50°C).

it was only like 20 minutes. I'm not saying the device getting warm isnt normal. I know that it is. However the first device i had did not get as hot as this.

The N10 is thin and very powerful so heat might be more noticeable. As long as it's "only" getting warm and not slowing down/stuttering in this state, there's nothing to worry about.

lol thats kinda the problem. the video keeps stuttering and freezing and so does the game....

everyone should be undervolting the nexus 10
this device can't even run at stock speeds for extended lengths of time without throttling due to high temperature...
it's easy to test, just run StabilityTest (search google play) and run the Classic Test... you'll eventually see your CPU throttle down from 1700MHz (mine goes down to 1400MHz every so often... i'd probably go down even more if i hadn't undervolted it)
therefore, undervolting it will help it run at stock speeds for longer

I noticed mine heating up for the first time. Don't play many games at the moment. Heated up quite a bit between camera and buttons just like others have mentioned. I was playing ingress when I first noticed. Also when I was just using browser to the ingress/Intel page. I was thinking it had to do with GPS but after reading other comments I guess CPU was working hard refreshing page.
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No more Overheating Posts

Thread also here: http://rirozizo.blogspot.com/
Hi,
Soon to be RC here, and my first contribution to the nexus 4 world is an attempt to convince you that your nexus 4 isn't overheating.
Some of you replied to my first thread here about what should i worry about in the nexus 4. Some replied that it has a battery drain... that i fixed by removing the google search bar... Others have said that it has overheating issues which some users are scared of.
I'm here to show you why you shouldn't be scared at all.
I was playing Fast And Furious 6: The Game, and 5 minutes later when i ran out of car gas, i closed the game and directly opened Trickster MOD app to see the temperatures of the phone... yes temperatureS.
You'll notice there are two temps in this app: Battery Temp and CPU Temp.
The one you used to check on older devices is Battery Temp, because older devices didn't have CPU Temp sensor.
When i first opened Trickster MOD it showed this:
Battery Temp: 42°C
CPU Temp: 56°C
And then seconds later, the CPU Temp dropped to 49°C and stayed at 49-50°C.
But Battery Temp was decreasing slowly from 42°C to 38°C in about 5 minutes.
Now the reason for the fast CPU Temp drop is that when the CPU is busy, there is so much electricity running through it, it generates heat. But when the CPU is practically resting, the electricity running through it is much less, hence, the Temp drop, which is normal. And also, if you're using a kernel that supports turning off the 3 other CPUs when not in heavy use, then it's better because the less CPU cores active, the less heat.
So the main thing you should be scared of is the Battery Temp... But don't be, because Android is smart:
Android has a built in overheating system which does certain steps to avoid hardware heating damage, if the phone overheats, it takes some steps:
1- If charging, it stops charging to reduce Battery Temp.
2- Reduces CPU speed automatically to make less electrical current run through the CPU, thus reducing CPU Temp.
3- If both of the above failed to get out of the overheat situation, it shuts down the phone.
So if you were playing a big game, and the phone heats up... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest
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But the question still remains: if I'm charging the phone using the wall charger, and I put it on the wireless charger, will it blow up?

Well, yeah. This is what we have been trying to say since the Nexus 4 came on the market.
Riro Zizo said:
Hi,
Soon to be RC here
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Good luck with that!

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Good luck with that!
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Thanks mate, actually I've been trying to be an RC since last summer... hopefully this time I'll acheive my goal, it's been a year.
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i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.

simms22 said:
i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.
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good call, I'll edit that.
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Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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failly said:
Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.

failly said:
Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
simms22 said:
if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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you beat me by 3 minutes
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simms22 said:
if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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Riro Zizo said:
Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
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Thats true, thanks for clearing it up!

Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.

albundy2010 said:
Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.
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you're right, it's not "coded" into android... but so far every android build i've seen has that security system.
but that's not the point, the point of this thread is to stop N4 users from posting "overheating issue" posts, and not worry anymore.

I hear ya. But I am going to rain on your parade. It will never stop.
At best ( which I doubt) they are children that simply don't know much.
But the truth is they are plenty of fools and it will never stop. The level of stupidity I have seen related to this discussion is appalling.
Only way it will stop if it becomes taboo. One thread in general and any new threads about it get closed down and deleted.

Actually it is android that controls temperature throttling. Or to be more precise the android kernel. Which reads the thermald file for it's Max CPU temperature.
There are also hardware cut offs 100°Cpu and 60° battery which will power off the phone.
These temperatures are what I consider overheated. Anything below or throttling is to prevent your device from overheating
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Does This Phone Get Hot?

I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.

appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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This phone is really hot even when you are looking at it with screen turned off.. I hope you understand what i mean
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appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Mine hasn't gotten to hot.
Those reporting this problem are probably a minority of all nexus 4 owners.
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Yes the phone does get hot sometimes especially after 10-15 mins of continuously browsing the web on 3G+ or 3G and after 15-20 mins on wifi.. But that's for stock 4.2.2 and 4.3. After undervolting and underclocking the device using custom kernels and ROMs the phone does not get very hot.. It's between 37-40 even after playing games like nova 3 and nfs mw for an hour if you hold the phone with your bare hands and it obviously depends on your configuration.

appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Thin glassy phone + powerfull cpu = heat Nothing to worry about.

It gets hot, at least on stock firmware, although my definition of hot might be more sensitive than others. I don't know what it would be like talking on the phone for an hour with it getting hot next to your face, although I haven't done that. I have to use custom rom and underclock the cpu a bit, so it's not an really issue anymore. I probably will get flamed for this, but I don't recommend this device to you if you don't like phones getting hot. But I guess lots of these newer flagship phones that has thin plastic casing probably gets hot too.

With normal usage the phone doesn't get too hot or anything. If you are fond of overclocking and disabling thermal throttle you will get pretty high temperature's. Around 70 degrees celcius.

It get's hot as any other phone but because it has got a glass back you feel the heat better.
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It didn't feel warm at all after undervolting and limiting heat using Trickster Mod (and has been yundervolted for the past 3 months).
Before that it could sometimes get really hot though.

Yes very hot, don't buy it.

meangreenie said:
Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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Andre_Vitto said:
Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Is your phone undervolted and temprature limited?
My temprature never goes over 40 degrees celsius, and feels rather cold most of the time.
Even with rather intensive games like NFS Most Wanted

This phone will not burn you. There isn't a real reason to consider the heat a problem. The temperature of the phone is regulated by the kernel, if it gets too hot the kernel takes measures to reduce the amount of heat being produced. This is a non issue.

Nexus 4 Severely heating up on 3G

Hey all.
Had my N4 since the beginning but recently I'm getting quite an annoying problem.
When on 3G, as soon as I start using the phone, you can feel it getting warm but after about 10 mins of light use, its actually burning hot! It only happens on WiFi though.
I contacted Google and they made me factory reset which had no luck. Now there sending me a brand new N4 to replace it
Anyone had this issue before? I've never had any issues with my N4 before and I've had it since the beginning
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It's normal. Under LTE heat is noticeably lower, so use that if you have access.
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i love these my n4 gets hot threads..
to start off, what battery and cpu temps does your phone reach? dont say it feels hot, feel isnt an accurate way to measure temp, its not a way to measure temp at all actually. feel will only give you if it feels warmer or cooler the body part you are doing the feeling with. and burning hot i highly doubt, unless your hand is ice cold. so, post your battery and cpu temperatures and we can go from there.