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I have used my phone for 2 days now, and occasionally will experience severe lag. Has anyone else experienced this? It's happening right now as I type, I type and have to wait a couple seconds for the letters to show up...
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Install os monitor and see if init is using up all the cpu. Its a known issue at least it is on the dhd. If that is what ist causing it.
If it is that then it has beeen solved http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507
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This issue never happened to me. You could also open terminal and type: top
This command shows processes and cpu usage and it auto refreshes. Most busy processes are on top of the list.
I think pressing Q will exit it. Its built into the os.
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Try advanced task cleaner from the market.
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mk27 said:
Try advanced task cleaner from the market.
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Dont try this. task cleaners do more harm then good
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Dont try this. task cleaners do more harm then good
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Same goes for registry cleaners and memory boosters LOL
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I will try to monitor the processes, and yes using task managers and cleaners just makes things worse so they shouldnt exist , ill try anfiteatro report with my findings
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I get lag. The worst problem is when I do this-
Go into an sms thread. Delete the entire thread. When the screen goes back to the sms list, the rotating 'wait' circle shows for about 5 seconds before refreshing the list. Happens every time. Even with 4 items in the sms view.
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I havent had any lag so far... been using for a week now
HTCSense has crashed a few times for me and automatically restarted just fine, nothing lost due to this happening.
I am familiar with the typing lag because it happens on Xperia Mini Pro occasionally. Anyway, not happened on my Desire Z yet...
The only teeny-tiny lag I have noticed is when some of the widgets don't load fast, but that's due to them gathering the data from mobile/wifi. Doesn't slow down swiping left/right to other screen though.
AMoosa said:
I get lag. The worst problem is when I do this-
Go into an sms thread. Delete the entire thread. When the screen goes back to the sms list, the rotating 'wait' circle shows for about 5 seconds before refreshing the list. Happens every time. Even with 4 items in the sms view.
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could somebody try this on your desire z and report back - is it the same for you?
I deleted a thread.. only had maybe 8 msgs - and it was instant.
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Dont try this. task cleaners do more harm then good
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Really? what harm can it do?
I do it to close some programs (to reclaim memory) and hopefully preserve battery.
mk27 said:
Really? what harm can it do?
I do it to close some programs (to reclaim memory) and hopefully preserve battery.
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Android is designed to allocate memory to tasks being used at hand, the other tasks are sitting idle and not using any memory at all. Task killers also drain your battery faster. Its google, they wouldnt make a OS that would have to use task managers to close things.
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I deleted a thread.. only had maybe 8 msgs - and it was instant.
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It's not the act of deleting where there is the lag on my phone. It is when the message list tries to re-draw...
Try simply rooting.. my phone got much faster simply by using Visionary+. Also flashing to the WWE rom cut long-boot times in half (or less). I think Bell's ROM just has issues.
schriss said:
Same goes for registry cleaners and memory boosters LOL
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Yeah, CacheMate killed my father and raped my Milestone!
Kidding, you're an idiot. Memory boosters don't do any harm. LOL
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AMoosa said:
I get lag. The worst problem is when I do this-
Go into an sms thread. Delete the entire thread. When the screen goes back to the sms list, the rotating 'wait' circle shows for about 5 seconds before refreshing the list. Happens every time. Even with 4 items in the sms view.
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Happens to me too!!! And I'm overclocking to 1 ghz already!
So I'm still lagging in menus and stuff, also have Usb debugging on as well
Edit: I'm also perm rooted s-off and overclocked and still lag during normal navigation of phone overall
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The guys in the DesireHD had this same issue, and they found a fix by enabling USB debugging: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507
Failing that, you could always download Watchdog lite from the Market to see if it alerts a service using excessive CPU, that should point in the right direction.
I'm thinking of getting a Desire Z, so this is a little unnerving. Hope the above fixes it.
had the insane lag too, did a bunch of pm disables to remove background sync packages.
you think 5 sec is slow, i waited about 30 min to del 2k msgs
push comes to shove proabably would install the stock android messaging app.
How come my phone always has to load when I exit to my dock screen, I'm on official gingerbread update, does this happen to u guys?
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Yea it happens to alot of people
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There could be a memory leak on the latest GB update That uses too much processing power.
Try to limit your widgets on your homescreens or if you're rooted, try dc13's ROM (Ti-X Speedy) which I am currently using. no "loading" time. Only using 3 homescreens with widgets.
Yeah this really makes me angry. But the widget thing might be correct...
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I talked to sprint last night and they said you need 60mb of free memory on the phone
This is a very common and incredably battery killing bug that came along with the new update. Its annoying me that I can't get my phone to last more than 5 hours on standby.
I am having this same issue on my wife's shift. I just bought it for her on Friday. Debating returning it for something else. She's driving me nuts about it. Is this happening to everyone with the update or just some phones? And has sprint/HTC acknowledged it and/or said they are working on a fix?
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HTC set Android's memory settings to be *far* too aggressive on the lastest update. Load up the app "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" and you can see this for yourself. These settings are what tells the OS when to start killing off background apps as free memory decreases.
Even without root, the app allows you to see what the settings are. With root, you can use the app to adjust the settings back to something more normal (personally, I like the settings from CM7). I'll be doing this the next time I try the rooted OTA.
x99percent said:
HTC set Android's memory settings to be *far* too aggressive on the lastest update. Load up the app "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" and you can see this for yourself. These settings are what tells the OS when to start killing off background apps as free memory decreases.
Even without root, the app allows you to see what the settings are. With root, you can use the app to adjust the settings back to something more normal (personally, I like the settings from CM7). I'll be doing this the next time I try the rooted OTA.
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What would be an optimal setting for the latest Sense update? What are the settings for CM7? Care to share?
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What would be an optimal setting for the latest Sense update? What are the settings for CM7? Care to share?
Thanks...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14996200&postcount=125
x99percent said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14996200&postcount=125
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Unfortunately that requires root
x99percent said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14996200&postcount=125
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This worked great for me thanks. Of course I'm not rooted and i could only change the last three numbers but no more white htc screen or loading screen when I exit an app
Thanks again
Autokill memory optimizer change seems successful
I have been seeing this same problem, and am not rooted either. Since setting the last three numbers to 24, 28, 32 earlier today I have not yet seen Sense restart. Will post a follow-up if things change.
dorito234 said:
I have been seeing this same problem, and am not rooted either. Since setting the last three numbers to 24, 28, 32 earlier today I have not yet seen Sense restart. Will post a follow-up if things change.
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It will still happen if you run some memory-intensive apps (e.g. games). HTC's original settings were kind of ridiculous, IMO.
What were the original htc settings anyway?
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hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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carmanj16 said:
hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Rooted? Over clocked? What rom?
carmanj16 said:
hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Reboot with pulling the battery out? Many apps on it?
If you're unsure whats causing the slowdown, I'd download Watchdog Lite and see what apps are taking up the most CPU/RAM and see if removing or fixing issues with these apps will change anything.
I haven't done anything extra for her to it, no rooting, all she has done is the ovta 2.2.1 update and download apps, just simple ones like backgrounds, schedules/notes, and games, and okay thanks I'll try downloading that app to see
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When having that version of Android I had some slow downs when using animated wallpapers, they clogged the memory also until it froze. Using normal, steady backgrounds took care of it.
I also have advanced task manager installed (free from market), it has a widget, clicking on it frees memory and speeds up the phone.
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I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Yeah, Froyo is supposed to be much better with ram management so task managers are not required. Its very likely to be a misbehaving app in the background.
Failing that, factory reset to rule out an failed ota.
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How many text messages does she have on the phone? I think this is a known issue, for people with a ridiculous mount of SMS messages.
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I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Don't use task managers. They're unnecessary and like you said can hurt more than they help more often than not.
Check out an app like Watchdog, that doesn't kill anything it'll just show you if something is eating too much CPU, so you can remove or change it. Also, lots of messages or long long threads can slow it down too.
so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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carmanj16 said:
so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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You can customize what the threshold is. I think its like 20% or 30% by default. Kinda surprising that very rarely happens. If she deletes all messages and it still happens I'm really not sure.
She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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Alex530 said:
She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.
My personal preference is "System Monitor". It doesn't kill anything and does everything watchdog and a little more. It costs tho
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While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.
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Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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carmanj16 said:
just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000? holy ****...
Alex530 said:
Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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You were previously talking about flashing CM7. If the HTC SMS app is indeed the problem, you don't need to flash a new ROM to get away from it. Yes, the HTC SMS app is not great, but neither is the stock AOSP one. I've been using the stock Sense ROM for the most part since December, with Chomp SMS and see absolutely no slow down. Plus, I've tried CM7 and other ROMs, and there is no significant affect on battery life. If the OP's GF wants to stay on Sense, its really overkill to recommend ROM flashing. Its pretty apparent from the most recent posts deleting some messages will likely fix the problem.
carmanj16 said:
just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000 is a bit much. If its just a case of not being bothered to delete old messages (I have the same problem, but delete in the hundreds still) I could recommend the "Delete old messages" function which will automatically keep the thread down to size.
Craig
I've tried many different roms such as jvo, jvh, jvp and jvq. I've tried darkys, juwes, gingerreal , f1, insanity and miui but they all have these problems after the phone has been 'up' for over a day. When I exit a game using home or back my launcher restarts.
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The same game and the same launcher always : maybe are not compatible.
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You are using tw launcher ? If not, you should check your task killer program. Maybe you got the option "stAy in ram". If yes, choose it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175514&highlight=launcher+restarts
I havent tried the stuff in this thread but it is interesting, and on the second page, there is a posted .apk that apparently solves it..
Like saphirrot said, if the launcher has a 'stay in mem' option, check it. I've done that with Launcher Pro and the launcher restart happens far far less.
It's just android freeing up ram for the game. It's a pain in the ass but better than not being able to run a game because of low memory.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175514&highlight=launcher+restarts
I havent tried the stuff in this thread but it is interesting, and on the second page, there is a posted .apk that apparently solves it..
Like saphirrot said, if the launcher has a 'stay in mem' option, check it. I've done that with Launcher Pro and the launcher restart happens far far less.
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How would I install the .apk?
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How would I install the .apk?
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I use super manager or astro manager. They have app managers and allow you to install .apk files. Super manager is great if you have root access as you can uninstall bloatware apps like aldiko, layar etc. Make sure to backup app just in case anything goes wrong.
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How would I install the .apk?
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I use AppInstaller. Very simple.
Thanks guys I installed the apk and my launcher no longer restarts but apps still close even when I go off them using the home button so I can return to them in a minute and be where I left it. Is there any apk for this as it is frustrating when you go off an app for a minute only to find it's closed when u go back on it.
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Actually the apk hasn't worked. Launcher is still rebooting when I go back to the home screen.
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Nothing is wrong. It's running out of memory. Android shall release background tasks if foreground tasks need the memory. Since Gingerbread, you can no longer force most things to stay in memory so those features are mostly useless these days. Should have kept to one ROM and asked your question in its thread. Too many things to suggest to tune it properly really. Uninstalling system apps you don't use and trying different kernels are your last options.
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Nothing is wrong. It's running out of memory. Android shall release background tasks if foreground tasks need the memory. Since Gingerbread, you can no longer force most things to stay in memory so those features are mostly useless these days. Should have kept to one ROM and asked your question in its thread. Too many things to suggest to tune it properly really. Uninstalling system apps you don't use and trying different kernels are your last options.
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This is completely unacceptable then, you can't even multitask. And after the phone has been 'up' for over 12 hours you can't even keep the dialer in memory! There must be a way around this. A smartphone should not take over 3 seconds to open the dialer.
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This is completely unacceptable then, you can't even multitask. And after the phone has been 'up' for over 12 hours you can't even keep the dialer in memory! There must be a way around this. A smartphone should not take over 3 seconds to open the dialer.
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I have never seen this problem before, and since it so several I have to assume that if other people had it, they would have posted about it.
That means that it is either due to a problem with your hardware, or due to something you are installing/configuring. I would do a full factory default then add apps back very slowly, one by one, doing some basic testing in between. That way you may be able to isolate the problem.
If it still happens right after the factory reset, take the phone to a service center.
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I have never seen this problem before, and since it so several I have to assume that if other people had it, they would have posted about it.
That means that it is either due to a problem with your hardware, or due to something you are installing/configuring. I would do a full factory default then add apps back very slowly, one by one, doing some basic testing in between. That way you may be able to isolate the problem.
If it still happens right after the factory reset, take the phone to a service center.
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I have seen people talk about it but the answers are since gingerbread apps get closed because of memory meaning that the dialer doesn't even stay in memory after the phone has been booted.for a while.
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Other people must also have these problems.........
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http://androidnexus.com/guides/fix-home-screen-redraw-lag-in-launcherpro-and-adw-launcher
1. Disable animations
Sure, you might miss some of the fancy animations and stuff, but it really does help out in the end to make lag go away
2. Install nova launcher
This is important! Nova launcher is quite excellent on this device from my experience. Absolutely zero lag, 60fps buttery smoothness! Plus customization
So Nova helps a lot?
100% helps
It may or may not help, but before I make Nova my default launcher, I remove all the widgets from the stock launcher.
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Just freeze your default launcher with titanium. That way nova is the only launcher.
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No Lag
I have no lag at all, it's fast and beautiful
Personally I haven't really experienced a need to speed up the device. Some of the apps are kind of slow, but I've ditched s notes and lecture notes seems to be just fine.
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Actually I have noticed that copying a stuff to your clipboard as being slower than it was on the 2012 model.
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100% helps
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alex94kumar said:
1. Disable animations
Sure, you might miss some of the fancy animations and stuff, but it really does help out in the end to make lag go away
2. Install nova launcher
This is important! Nova launcher is quite excellent on this device from my experience. Absolutely zero lag, 60fps buttery smoothness! Plus customization
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Alex... I have one question, one comment and one request...
Question: Are you suggesting that we disable ALL animations...? or a specific one...? I recall doing this on my Note 2 and it made a difference
Comment: I see that you took some time to configure you signature, so I thought that I would let you know that you need to correct the word (Device) in your signature file
Request: Please hit the "Thank you" button for my above comment... LOL...!!
Enjoy the new toy...!!
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Just freeze your default launcher with titanium. That way nova is the only launcher.
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We don't have root yet
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Alex... I have one question, one comment and one request...
Question: Are you suggesting that we disable ALL animations...? or a specific one...? I recall doing this on my Note 2 and it made a difference
Comment: I see that you took some time to configure you signature, so I thought that I would let you know that you need to correct the word (Device) in your signature file
Request: Please hit the "Thank you" button for my above comment... LOL...!!
Enjoy the new toy...!!
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Yeah I just got rid of all of them, sped things up so much
And I'll be sure to fix my signature lol
Don't forget to disable the water effect at the unlock screen. I remember that taking up a bit of ram in itself.
Also you can turn off programs that you won't use (if allowed) in settings/general/application manager/all
So far I have:
Business week+
NY Times
Trip Advisor
Twitter
Yahoo Finance
These were running apps that i'll never use.
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Don't forget to disable the water effect at the unlock screen. I remember that taking up a bit of ram in itself.
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I've had mine for about 8 hours and am not noticing much lag at all. I never set up the My Magazine app...I wonder if that has anything to do with it
lag? What lag?
not sure what people are expecting but I have no lag whatsoever this thing flies I hesitated because I love my original note 10.1 so much and use it daily but have no regrets 5 hours in?
In Addition Bench Marks Are Off The Charts
Sorry to rant on this but what's the point if spending $550 on a high end tablet if we have to do little tweaks like this. It's Samsung's job to make sure the processor can handle the experience of this wonderful tablet
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I think the first run may lag, but after recharge it for second run. This awesome device run like a beast
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There's just a lot of things installed, much like any laptop you purchased. Why do the companies have all this stuff? Money.
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Just freeze your default launcher with titanium. That way nova is the only launcher.
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Is root already available on the note 10.1 2014? Because if my memory serves me you need root for that.
Maybe. Try going into settings apps and fins the launcher
Then press disable, Im not sure about it though
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