Just want to know the names of ROMs that have the most tweaks. Thanks in advance
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AOKP and Xylon probably.
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Cm 10 or PA or AOKP....
But I prefer PA rom its outstanding....runs so smooth my man...just try it out...and add franco kernel with it and your set!!!!
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cm10 is months behind aokp and pa.
i really want to try pa. but as i was reading through the paranoidandroid thread, i noticed the guy that builds it out doesnt necessarily have the same end game as i do. but i will still give it a try sooner or later.
xylon most likely
codefireX
Customizations and tweaks without compromising smoothness and performance. Bleeding edge seems like, as far as performance modifications go.
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You should check out BR11 by Codefirex or PA which i haven't tried yet but it is very customizable.
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Thanks guys I'll try em later.
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PA is a solid choice.
I enjoyed it for a while on my Note, would switch back and forth between it and vanilla CM10.
PA allows one to customize the presentation of Android better than any other ROM but whether or not usability is improved as far as practical application seems to usually be more a function of app limits than user. What I mean by this is that as far as UI layout, colors etc go - nothing comes close to touching this ROM. But the user experience beyond design is largely based on how a given app has been designed to be interacted with in different form factor layouts.
So for example, you switch your Gmail to display in tablet mode . If you find your user experience improved, it's because the Google dev team behind the Gmail app did a good job designing its different layouts.
As far as tailoring your Android experience to your own desire, your limits are design limits: colors, layouts, etc
ROMs like codefireX have a customization and user experience philosophy based more around function and practical application than design. So while I do not have the choice to change layout, colors etc per app, I can change/add functionality and buttons to the nav bar, the behavior of expanding the notification shade is different, I can modify power menu options etc.
Neither philosophy is necessarily superior to the other but I found myself more attracted to that codefireX offered than what PA offers.
What PA can accomplish is impressive in its own right but my user experience is better served by being able to do more in a wider variety of areas than specializing and excelling in general aesthetics and presentation.
That being said, PA is less performance and power user oriented. The performance hit on the hardware and limitations of the Note was very marked, the N4's beefy internals can easily take the performance hit the invasive per app modifications and hybrid engine generates. While PA seemed to me to be as smooth as any, it definitely wasn't close to being the fastest. It seemed to me to be as fast (maybe a tad slower) than stock but it's not as fast as some of these other ROMs (codefireX included).
So honestly, you should probably try a variety of ROMs out and see which suits you best. I found myself diverging from the philosophy behind PA but you might enjoy it best. It was just no longer the right setup for me.
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PA is a solid choice.
I enjoyed it for a while on my Note, would switch back and forth between it and vanilla CM10.
PA allows one to customize the presentation of Android better than any other ROM but whether or not usability is improved as far as practical application seems to usually be more a function of app limits than user. What I mean by this is that as far as UI layout, colors etc go - nothing comes close to touching this ROM. But the user experience beyond design is largely based on how a given app has been designed to be interacted with in different form factor layouts.
So for example, you switch your Gmail to display in tablet mode . If you find your user experience improved, it's because the Google dev team behind the Gmail app did a good job designing its different layouts.
As far as tailoring your Android experience to your own desire, your limits are design limits: colors, layouts, etc
ROMs like codefireX have a customization and user experience philosophy based more around function and practical application than design. So while I do not have the choice to change layout, colors etc per app, I can change/add functionality and buttons to the nav bar, the behavior of expanding the notification shade is different, I can modify power menu options etc.
Neither philosophy is necessarily superior to the other but I found myself more attracted to that codefireX offered than what PA offers.
What PA can accomplish is impressive in its own right but my user experience is better served by being able to do more in a wider variety of areas than specializing and excelling in general aesthetics and presentation.
That being said, PA is less performance and power user oriented. The performance hit on the hardware and limitations of the Note was very marked, the N4's beefy internals can easily take the performance hit the invasive per app modifications and hybrid engine generates. While PA seemed to me to be as smooth as any, it definitely wasn't close to being the fastest. It seemed to me to be as fast (maybe a tad slower) than stock but it's not as fast as some of these other ROMs (codefireX included).
So honestly, you should probably try a variety of ROMs out and see which suits you best. I found myself diverging from the philosophy behind PA but you might enjoy it best. It was just no longer the right setup for me.
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i went ahead and stuck pa on my phone last night. i wasnt impressed with the speeds or the confusion. definitely going to try codefirex next.
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i went ahead and stuck pa on my phone last night. i wasnt impressed with the speeds or the confusion. definitely going to try codefirex next.
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Be aware the latest build (11) introduced issues with its toolchain that causes chrome/opera mobile browsers to crash on certain sites. The regular aosp browser works perfectly. (it's my assumption it's the new toolchain causing this, little else changed)
If you depend on chrome/opera mobile, try to find the 10.1 build.
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To a novice user, ParanoidAndroid may seem a bit daunting, and lacking in features. However, many thematic add-ons–such as extra toggles and notification widgets–will definitely come in time. Battery icons can easily be injected yourself. I wrote a brief tutorial on how to do so here.
Here's a short album I made of a few unique features to ParanoidAndroid (and will likely stay unique to the project). Pay attention to the nav/notification bar. It can be a different color depending on the app you are using. Further, no other ROM today allows you to consolidate the nav and notification bar, à la tablet UIs. Also, I attached a few cropped photos highlighting zoom buttons that I put in place myself. Theming is REALLY easy to do. Independent dpi and layout.... now there's something you won't see on CM10, Codefirex, AOKP, etc. ParanoidAndroid is very innovative in this regard and is really the only current pre-release ROM that is capable of providing a significantly different user experience.
We need PACMan ROM. Paranoid, with AOKP and CM10 all baked in. That was my DD on the Skyrocket. Definitely miss it.
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Why the need? Just for extra features? Is there any *perceivable* performance benefits when using custom ROMs?
EDIT: What about custom kernels + AOSP, any real improvement here?
You're the only one who can decide that. You already have stock, so the custom ROM's will only be giving you a (relatively) small set of added features, many of which can be duplicated with individual apps/mods. Performance benefits are debatable - a custom ROM will give you greater ability to tweak things and possibly speed it up, but on the flipside there's a greater likelihood of messing something up. In my case, the phone is already working as fast as I can imagine, so I'm not sure exactly what performance benefits I would see.
Note that rooting is a separate story, it does allow you to install mods that make the phone a better experience (battery circle as example).
edit: it could be worth installing a stock ROM that's been deodexed, allowing for more mods. I'm thinking about that.
personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.
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personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.
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huh...somehow I hadn't realized that, even though my phone's been vibrating away. That is an annoying bug.
CM has faster download speed on WiFi than stock
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Stock is no slouch.
Many AOSP ROMs are no slouch either.
I've come to rely on many of CM's features, so that's what I typically run. As a feature list gets longer, so does the potential bug list though. I've yet to experience a mission critical bug on any ROM I've daily driven; you can usually determine very quickly if a ROM promises a lot of bugs, or is the right one for you.
I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.
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I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.
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DITTO.
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DITTO.
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When on AOSP, you flash ROMs for the features, the performance gain isn't noticible- ill be rolling stock rom and custom kernel
As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".
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As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".
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Most of the drivers here are open source. This is an AOSP phone! A built from AOSP will the same as your stock rom.
Besides that there are some niceties of the Qualcom chipset which are under lock&key and proprietary. Some custom kernel's replace these with open source alternatives. (Franco & Faux for example). But as far as I can tell these guys are in the business of stability :good:
Ok, so I've had my Nexus 4 for 2-3 weeks, I'm very impressed.
Though I'm missing some of the little tweaks I used to have when I used CM10.1 on my old phone.
Things I'm concerned about on CM:-
Battery performance
Video decoding compatibility/performance
Camera performance
Can anyone who has experience advise if there any noticeable differences between stock and CM regarding these points?
First one I don't know since I don't run cm.
The rest will be the same as stock. Unlike your old phone ( probably). Cm doesn't have to do any hackery to get things like the camera to work on a officially supported nexus device.
Coming from CM on both the i9000 and the S3, it works flawless on my N4.
I don't notice any performance changes with either CM or AOKP, but I've come to rely on their added features. I also have a custom kernel (franco)...not sure the performance has changed with that either, but battery life is definitely improved.
Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.
I guess they just want go promote Google Now with it since it opens that by default.
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Custom kernel - Yeah I notice a big difference between franco and stock (roughly double the battery life for my use case.)
Custom rom - The big thing for me was getting control of my volumes, stock you can't set a separate volume for notifications and ringtones but with AOKP I can. Outside of that though I don't notice much difference but I also picked the least different rom.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.
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Google seems to always leave things in a state of perpetual "beta", I've also noticed that they like to break things and instead of fixing them they take the attitude of "that's how it is now and it's better".
Fortunately they also release phones like the n4 that allows people to hack the crap out of it so some very smart people can fix those mistakes.
Okay, there is this rule not to ask wich kernel is best and wich rom is best.. So i'll try to make it alittle better...
I'm on franco's kernel atm and CM 10.1.. And so far i'm rly happy But i've allways been a flash junkie ...
What roms is out that i can do this on: Change soft keys with no problems at all!, themes like CM10.1 But still blazing fast and as few bugs as possible
Kernels: Better battery than stock, fast when gaming and no hick ups..
I wanna hear what you guys like and what you recommend
Rasbean + trinity or Franco works amazing for me so far. Deciding between Franco and trinity for this Rom atm.
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I've been using codefire / franco and find the performance and battery life is excellent. I've changed my softkeys so that the back button is on the right (easier when i use with right hand). Also has extended desktop that allows you to hide everything when you want. give it a try.
cm10.1 + franco
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AOKP
Code fire
Cm
Cm kang
These are my choices that does what you asked for
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Franco
Faux
Trinity
Bricked
Is my go to choice in terms of increasing battery life without sacrificing performance
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all these roms look the same, they work the same. if one of them has a new feature the others will likely jump on it and kang it in. never seen much of a difference. if you want something unique, paranoid android. not to pat my own back here but this one has features that none other has and its the only one that has the power to drastically transform your device, and i mean drastic in its a new device afterwards. it has all the basic rom scene tweaks which you know from other roms, convenience buttons yaddayadda, but it brings new inventions.
see your apps transform . each and every app runs in a virtual space that can be defined by you. keep in mind, android has fixed layout constraits, small devices, big devices, very big devices. an android pocket watch is a small device, its layout is 360p. a latest gen phone may almost reach a higher designation but doenst quite, so it falls back to 360p. your huge nexus4 is running the same apps that run on a pocket watch - although these apps have hidden capabilities that unfold once they acknowledge a higher device class. you'd be shocked to see how much better your apps are on pa.
seamless hybrid ui's and interface selection this is the only rom that lets you choose between all interface layouts that android offers, without changing any of your apps. and the only one that has a real tablet UI, one that works better than the original did on google tablets.
per app color completely unique feature that no rom has. they use one static color. here colors shift from app to app, you define these colors with a simple color picker.
coolest looking control panel ever this lets you make changes in seconds, no reboot. change any app, change colors, individual dpi's, ui's, fullscreen, etc. you can even scale and switch system components like keyboards, lockscreen, etc.
per app expanded-desktop, normal exp-desktop is from us aswell.
and hybrid engine is not the only invention theres more.
thank you guys for the input Seems like i got some work to do
PARANOIDANDROID 2.99 + franco kernel works nice
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Actually I have gotten way better battery life on stock but that's just me
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Customization is key for a lot of people who try custom ROMs. Kernels give some great features as well. We have excellent ROM and kernel devs so its really nice. The Nexus 4 is considered a "dev" phone by a lot of people so why not take advantage of the awesome support we have!
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Moot*
Also, have you tried EVERY kernel? Harsh keeps close to stock, but adds newer patches and fixes, as well as the ability to change gamma. He still uses mpdecision, which retains the stock snappiness.
OP, using custom ROMs lets you have the latest version of Android + all the cool extras.
T9 dialer, Pie and battery percentage are three VERY popular ones. Mind you, there are ways to add these to the stock ROM, but at that point it's not stock.
one word - COLORS
Run stock as long as you happily can. Keep an eye on the more popular custom ROM threads to see if there's any one, or more, features that you absolutely can't live without, if you're at all interested.
You're running a great ROM already and too many people jump into the ring without doing enough research.
The one thing I can't live without is hiding nav bar,
ok, two things, Touch Control.... Since stock kernel disabled it I had to use a custom kernel. Besides it's old habit. I was a Franco kernel user since Galaxy Nexus.
1. The software buttons can take up a lot of space after the status bar is included. Makes the screen feel less like 4.7"
2. The stock colors really are washed out. Modifying the gamma can get you extremely attractive colors.
3. I like being able to have a flashlight and my hotspot a touch away and having custom tiles proves awesome for that.
4. When you're playing Real Racing 3 and your girlfriend texts you, its kind of a pain in the butt to switch windows . The pie in my ROM let's me read and respond to my notifications on the fly.
5. Aesthetics. The boot animation, custom app color recommendations and artwork in general are just awesome on Paranoid Android 3.1. Cooler than Holo at times
6. Better sound. By default the volume on this sucks but now I've installed Xloud it's just right.
But in the end this is a Nexus device. Works just peachy off the bat but coming from the developer concept series from Google, they don't expect you to take it as is. Different strokes for different folks. 4.2.2 is as is. If you want more though the Nexus is the cornocopia of ROM development. Every big league ROM originates here. Another reason to love it among the rest .
Just my two cents
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CyanogenMod and Stock Kernel
In my opinion the best way to go is CyanogenMod gives you a lot more customization and the battery life, ram speed and CPU clock is perfectly fine so there's no need to get a custom kernel.
Custom rom allows you to control your phone however your want.
As for me, i am using PA Rom. The reason I choose PA because it has some nice tweaks and customization.
- Battery Percentage
- Customizable Lockscreen
- Quick Settings Panel Customization
- Custom color for apps :>
- Volume Button tweaks
- Full Screen (Pie)
All about me.
Customization!!!!!!! I really liked having a top of the line device, except for the crap sound, washed out colors and lack of options. Using P.A.C. Rom with the franco Kernel it seems like a whole new phone. There is almost no end to what I can tweak or modify on my phone. The addition of Awesome Beats and Noozxoide made my phone sound crazy good. Everyones phone is totally their own. No 2 are alike because you can personalize everything. If i wanted the same phone as everyone else I would have bought an Iphone. Once you start flashing you will find it hard to stop. Enjoy the power of Stock for a while and then come to the darkside and you will never want to go back to stock.
There are aspects of custom ROMs and kernels in general that give you an increased fluidity. The nexus 4 is beastly and honestly I run full stock right now until I somehow get bored with its performance and want to Rev the CPU/GPU to its limit
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Much more features, tweaks and customization.
R: Custom roms, but why?
Features and tweaks. Customization.
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Running stock or my modification of it lol. Stock 4.2.2, Root, Franco Kernel, Improved camera patch and Xlouder patch with awesome beats.
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Try it for yourself, bud. Don't be ignorant and make a thread like this.
With the custom rom you can customise more you phone and improve your experience with your phone than stock ROM. Many people said that in latest posts. But no one precise that every custom ROM has some little or big dysfunction. Look the chapter troobleshooting of each custom rom. Even cyanogenmod (very popular) has one.
My strategy is replaced the stock ROM by custom ROM when I 'm feel tired of my phone. And then it allows me to wait several mouths: time to search the right next phone for me and buy it.
How about using the stock deox roms ? This allows you to run the base rom plus flash some small customisations
Customisations in the roms sometimes bring instability, although most of the main roms on here CM /AOKP / AOSP are quite stable but that is why they are development roms
Ordered a nexus 10 32gb on ebay and trynna see which rom people are having best battery life/performance....
[Q] Which rom are you using and why?
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Ordered a nexus 10 32gb on ebay and trynna see which rom people are having best battery life/performance....
[Q] Which rom are you using and why?
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Stock, because all the ROMs I've tried have been buggy and don't offer a great deal of additional functionality. I do have high hopes for PA though, once thier multi-window is finished. I have rooted the tablet though, mainly for the aosp browser.
I haven't had any real bugs with CM and PA, but AOKP has some weird theming bugs with settings not taking.
I use Pacman, which has CM, PA, and AOKP... All in one package.
KTManta kernel is hands-down my favorite kernel, as well.
PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.
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PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.
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PA is nice and a great ROM, but if you need performance, sadly, it sucks. I haven't tried the latest build with halo, but on 3.15 the performance is really bad on games.
I use PA for the Hybrid engine. It is truly brilliant. I get very few errors in terms of performance and the tablet crashes occasionally but it's worth it--especially for Halo alone. Hopefully they will start to develop the Halo functionality in regards to tablets having multi-window rather than stacked Halo processes.
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Mmuzzy's rom. Close to stock, rooted, with a couple little tweaks. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2071082
Rasbeanjelly + franco.Kernel
Not a ton of customization, lightweight, fast and optimized. And can use the same combination across all my devices (N4, N7, and N10).
I never used PA, but have heard quite a few reports of it being somewhat on the worse-side for performance.
Carbon ROM, felt the smoothest for me and had all the customizations I needed. A second for me would be Sentinel ROM. I guess it depends on what your main preference is. If its AOSP (stock), PA, cyanogen, or AOKP. They all offer something different. The best way is try a ROM and see if you are comfortable with the usage of that ROM. Also Kernel can also help play a role in your ROM choice.
I use the last RasSaber build, dont know where it is available anymore though. It gives me enough of the customization that I want, a nice built in theme, and very smooth performance with great battery life. For kernel I use the KTManta kernel because it offers the best battery life through undervolting and also gives me the best performance. Lots of fun options with it if your into that sort of thing.
Can you please share the rom if you have the package ? I dont find it neighter
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I like EOS ROM + Trinity kernel for outstanding performance and just the right amount of features I need.
But rasbeanjelly, RasSaber, Sabermod, and Sentinel are all top notch in my book.
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I use PA for the Hybrid engine. It is truly brilliant. I get very few errors in terms of performance and the tablet crashes occasionally but it's worth it--especially for Halo alone. Hopefully they will start to develop the Halo functionality in regards to tablets having multi-window rather than stacked Halo processes.
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PA was put on my Nexus straight away since I detest the phablet look, but now they're adding other things such as halo which is great. Plus PA makes mes want a Nexus 4 to get the most out of it on my phone too.
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And by PA you guys are reffering to Paranandroid right?
So would you recommend sticking to rooted stock rom? Is that stablet enough for Battery/Gaming/OverallPerformance
You can if you want to, but you can get more performance on custom stuff. Or less performance but a LOT more features if you choose ParanoidAndroid.
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You can if you want to, but you can get more performance on custom stuff. Or less performance but a LOT more features if you choose ParanoidAndroid.
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Except for the sound settings being broken, PACman has plenty of features.
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Someone should do a performance check on PAC ROM. If it has all these features from different ROMs, including P.A. then it *should* also have similar performance right? Would be pretty weird if another dev who ported Paranoid Android features got it working way better when mixed with even more things on top.
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Can you please share the rom if you have the package ? I dont find it neighter
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Not sure if this was directed to me from my post right before this. Ill assume it was since it was about a ROM that wasnt available anymore. Anyway, Seems it is everyone's lucky day because we now have a new build of RasSaber avalable so people can download it again
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=manta-rassaber
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Someone should do a performance check on PAC ROM. If it has all these features from different ROMs, including P.A. then it *should* also have similar performance right? Would be pretty weird if another dev who ported Paranoid Android features got it working way better when mixed with even more things on top.
Not sure if this was directed to me from my post right before this. Ill assume it was since it was about a ROM that wasnt available anymore. Anyway, Seems it is everyone's lucky day because we now have a new build of RasSaber avalable so people can download it again
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=manta-rassaber
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What should I check it with? I'm up for it
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I prefer AOKP PUB builds.
Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.
@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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It's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
coolkratos said:
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
jetbruceli said:
Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.
Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.