Stay Stock? Gotta Root? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Not an N7 owner yet - it's on my xMas list. Santa's gotta come through for me.
As a GNex owner, rooting my phone was a no-brainer. I got sick of VZW's bloatware and VZW is miserably slow on pushing out updates. I am not a crack-flasher - I am happy to stay with a specific ROM/kernel that works.
I was wondering if most N7 owners had the same sentiment as most of us GNex'ers - stock is just not acceptable - gotta root.
Or, is stock somehow more acceptable on the N7?

The Stock Rom on the N7 is good but I rooted mine because i use some apps that need root and i use a custom kernel. I think it's not necessary but if you don't use Google+ Currents and so on, you can save some space by deleting them with root. But why don't you wait for yours and see if you like it or not ? Rooting is very easy so there should be no problem in doing it

Root, allows you to use OTG to store huge apps on Flash drive instead of eating so pace and backup with titanium backup!
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I stayed stock. It's perfect for my use, and it replaces my laptop, so: no data loss allowed, no sod's, and no screwed flashing which requires a full wipe... I don't want to do the same as on my gnex ^^ at least one device that runs normal ^^
Like I said, stock is very nice, even though 4.2 made it a bit different. ( others report, got mine for a few days)
Battery life is nice, performance is awesome (sometimes I just open and close the drawer, open apps and close them, just to see how beautiful the transitions are ) and I have nothing to nag on... I recommend you to try stock for a few days and decide yourself if you need root, or a custom kernel etc. ^^
And if you say you want to root for like 50%, then I would unlock the bootloader before setting everything up
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I've rooted every single Android phone that I've owned. With that said, I have felt no need to root my Nexus7 and I've had it since July. OTG can be used as read-only with an app, no root required.

I'm running the stock android but it's rooted of course. The stock android nets me around 14-20 hours on a full charge. That using chrome to search the net and playing YouTube videos.
Plan on staying with the stock android with root access.
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schism70 said:
I've rooted every single Android phone that I've owned. With that said, I have felt no need to root my Nexus7 and I've had it since July. OTG can be used as read-only with an app, no root required.
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Requires root to use bind directory to play games straight from flash drives.
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Thanks for the feedback so far. I figured that the stock/root decision is a personal one that a person makes after they try out the N7, but still it's interesting to see what decisions you folks make, and why.

I'm in a similar situation as I'll be getting mine in a few days.
All I plan on doing is rooting right away, just so I can get rid of some of the bloatware, and then I've always got the option to chuck on a custom ROM/kernel if I don't like the stock feeling of it.
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Thanks again for the input!

I've rooted but am otherwise on stock. I had game progress and stiff that I wanted to port over. I don't plan on flashing a custom ROM. I really like the stock JB, so for now I'm perfectly happy running rooted stock.
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schism70 said:
I've rooted every single Android phone that I've owned. With that said, I have felt no need to root my Nexus7 and I've had it since July. OTG can be used as read-only with an app, no root required.
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Same here. I don't see the point.

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[Q] What are you rooting for?

Hey everyone,
I was just wondering, for the people whom had rooted their 10.1 tabs what they were taking advantage of when rooting? I have my HTC Incredible rooted for a few different purposes and roms but can't think of any that I would take advantage of on a tablet that it can't already do.
So basically, what are you guys doing with root so far?
For the most part, peace of mind. I cannot live with a device that is not rooted. It just doesn't sit well with me.
Anyway, the only thing I've really used it for so far is installed in honeycomb books app. It wouldn't install for me so I had to push it to /system/app/ which requires root. I'm also thinking of getting rid of the camera app and replacing it with the stock one. Our browser doesn't seem to have to Labs options, so I might replace that as well.
I was using setCPU for a bit too but I decided to uninstall it.
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For the most part, peace of mind. I cannot live with a device that is not rooted. It just doesn't sit well with me.
Anyway, the only thing I've really used it for so far is installed in honeycomb books app. It wouldn't install for me so I had to push it to /system/app/ which requires root. I'm also thinking of getting rid of the camera app and replacing it with the stock one. Our browser doesn't seem to have to Labs options, so I might replace that as well.
I was using setCPU for a bit too but I decided to uninstall it.
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Ah okay, thanks. Yeah the only thing I could think of is removing applications that are unwanted but I was like well, the applications that are already on here are actually useful and there aren't many that are a nuisance. SetCPU was out for me since the battery lasts like 10+ hours (Went on like 13+ for me yesterday) and no need to overclock or anything.
Con of rooting though, when the 3.1 update comes out you will have to wait for a rooted update to be released online or else you will lose root on upgrading, correct?
Don't have one yet... but I like to root so I can use Titanium Backup Pro.
Yeah, I'll probably lose root when the 3.1 update comes out. That's not really an issue though. My options are
1. have root, lose root, get root again
2. don't have root, wait, get root
it doesn't really matter either way
I will for wifi tether with barnacle app, also to back up and adfree are my main reasons.
Did the tabs that were given away at the conference have TouchWiz or just stock Honeycomb?
Being able to use Screenshot ER!
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RickBaller said:
Did the tabs that were given away at the conference have TouchWiz or just stock Honeycomb?
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It's stock but for some reason there's a modified camera app and keyboard.
smaskell said:
It's stock but for some reason there's a modified camera app and keyboard.
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Yeah I switched back to the android keyboard

How can I revert back to 4.1.2? This update ruined my stock nexus grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
taqulic said:
4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
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Or you can use Nexus 7 toolkit to download and flash back to stock with one step
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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jt.one said:
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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Huh? Lol I got the program but your directions are scary lol im a noob lol go easy on me but the line with? Marks leaves a lot to the imagination
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I downloaded the wug toolkit but how do you install it? It only gives me options to open as picture, audio, text an so on with es file explorer.
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LoL ha ha ha ha dude I am tripping over this cuz I to have a total stock N7 and I waited for the update OTA and then downloaded it and I absolutely have NO PROBLEMS with 4.2 so I guess my question is how did he download it was it from GOOGLE OTA or from someone who posted a zip just curious GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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I'm curious if you are stock and didn't lose tablet mode or anything like that what you find so horrible about about 4.2?
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I have to agree this update should not have been released, I'm stock on the nexus 7 and its so buggy! It keeps stuttering, taken ages to load webpages , all that project butter has gone, not happy, funny enough it's perfect on my galaxy nexus which is running 4.2 stock rooted, BTW I got the update ota
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To add to this, I've just tried to set up a second user and the setup crashed once , gave me a blank screen for 10 seconds every time I pressed next, then the launcher crashed twice , gave me a blank screen for over a minute, stuttering when swiping side to side, even now as I type this its not registering a click then I click again and I get two letters ..... And pinch zoom is jerky! Wtf happened?!?! Hope there's a fix on the way, this is the one device I'm reluctant to root and install custom ROM simply because 4.1 was perfect
Guys just download nexus 7 toolkit and flash 4.1 image... Sorry, but even me (girl) was able to do this succesfully.
Lmfao ok ok you guys win haha but i am stock and it was official update. Im good on pcs but this is my first tablet, android is new to me anyway im on pain pills for broken leg from a motorcycle accident so my head is definitely not all there lately but ya lets hear the jokes about that now. And no that pervert in my pic is not me, although it fits my brain power lately lol
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Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
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Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
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The dev for stickymount says it may not be solvable, Multi-user by default is a nightmare.
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Yeah i noticed after updating that some of my apps that reinstalled after the update would crash when i tried opening them for the 1st time. i unistalled then reinstalled them and they worked fine after that. i too am not really liking the update hopefully i can find a way to revert back to 4.1.2 easily or theres some work arounds (especially for stick mount as mentioned earlier)
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
turdbogls said:
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
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Completely agree. They new update 4.2 corrected a lot of bugs. The power management is a lot better and the memory management too. Ive run some test and saw that the system load is quite inferior to what it was before due to a more clean management process
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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TokenAntiAppleRant said:
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
First I wanna ask anyone who says the 4.2 update is terrible if they even tried a full data wipe/factory reset? If not, try that before accusing Google of releasing buggy firmware. It could be your stinkin data/apps fault
Pandemonium2k4 said:
Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
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Most to all the people were decent. Plenty of people pointed you in the right direction, or linked to a guide. You gotta do a little researching and educate yourself a little so you understand the whole process.
Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Nope, it's not illegal to root.. it will supposedly be illegal to unlock a phone (for another network) without the network's consent though.
Just think..there's no reason at all running custom firmware/roms/rooting can be illegal on a nexus device, why do you think the bootloader is effortlessly unlockable?
And if you think about it, no, it's not really crazy that is a "hassle" to revert to old firmware, because
A) most devices (Apple comes to mind) you can't do this, unless certain conditions apply (if you backed up SHSH blobs, etc etc)
B) if you understood the process of flashing the stock rom, and if you had ADB/fastboot setup correctly, it's simple as pie to flash the old firmware. And the "homemade software" is just an interface for n00bs (like yourself) and would not exist if it didn't use adb and fastboot behind the hood. And if you think it was hard to do what you did, you should try to do it on a device with a locked bootloader: (droid x2 comes to mind) it's a nightmare
So basically, Google has this wonderful OS and provides devs and users alike these wonderful tools (and Nexus hardware to match) at our disposable.
Idk about you, but I say kudos Google!
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New to Note 10.1

Hello guys/girls
I just got my Galaxy Note 10.1 today and I wanted to know what are the benefits of rooting this device. I currently have a rooted SGS2 so I know about rooting but I would like to know are there some cool features with root vs stock? Also which rom and themes (I love themes) do you recommend for stabilty and great battery life? I would like to keep all the features like snote, multi window etc.
thanks for your input and help
Multi Window
For me being able to add multi window support for any app, on the fly is reason enough!
That was the reason for me.
Do it and test out the multi window app on the store.
g33kChic said:
Hello guys/girls
I just got my Galaxy Note 10.1 today and I wanted to know what are the benefits of rooting this device. I currently have a rooted SGS2 so I know about rooting but I would like to know are there some cool features with root vs stock? Also which rom and themes (I love themes) do you recommend for stabilty and great battery life? I would like to keep all the features like snote, multi window etc.
thanks for your input and help
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fmf.post said:
For me being able to add multi window support for any app, on the fly is reason enough!
That was the reason for me.
Do it and test out the multi window app on the store.
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Cool. If I may ask are you on rooted stock or are you using a custom rom? If so, which rom are you using?
g33kChic said:
Hello guys/girls
I just got my Galaxy Note 10.1 today and I wanted to know what are the benefits of rooting this device. I currently have a rooted SGS2 so I know about rooting but I would like to know are there some cool features with root vs stock? Also which rom and themes (I love themes) do you recommend for stabilty and great battery life? I would like to keep all the features like snote, multi window etc.
thanks for your input and help
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Here is the biggest reason why you should not root....... Because rooting will void your warranty.
Everyone says just use Triangle Away and reset, well that is all fine but If it needs to go in for repairs because it will not restart or hangs at start screen you will be sorry.
I would play with your note for a month or so before you root because there are many apps that let you modify your tablet without root.
Here are a few that I have used that can make your tablet look very cool and backup data without root.
Sidebar
Carbon
CircleLauncher
One More Clock Widget
Palmary Weather
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If you used before apps with root, you can not afford not to root the new device
It is addiction, it only takes a minute or so to root and you could enjoy all the root apps without limitations forever
With autoroot files, you will not lose even the recovery or ota updates
Having the sensation of complete control of your system deserves the small risk !!!
We go to android instead of Apple because of the control of the system and feeling that we are geeks in technology not only users
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Mohamedselim said:
If you used before apps with root, you can not afford not to root the new device
It is addiction, it only takes a minute or so to root and you could enjoy all the root apps without limitations forever
With autoroot files, you will not lose even the recovery or ota updates
Having the sensation of complete control of your system deserves the small risk !!!
We go to android instead of Apple because of the control of the system and feeling that we are geeks in technology not only users
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Which Rom are you using?
Mohamedselim said:
If you used before apps with root, you can not afford not to root the new device
It is addiction, it only takes a minute or so to root and you could enjoy all the root apps without limitations forever
With autoroot files, you will not lose even the recovery or ota updates
Having the sensation of complete control of your system deserves the small risk !!!
We go to android instead of Apple because of the control of the system and feeling that we are geeks in technology not only users
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For me........ I can not afford the risks that comes with rooting my $500.00 note 10.1.
I purchased my note for its great productivity ability and the s-pen option.
I do agree with you about the power and funtion that you get when you do root an android device, that is why I purchased a used kindle fire for $70 bucks and rooted it. The kindle fire has given me countless hour of entertainment loading many different ROMs, backing up the images, loading scripts and anything else that I could think of. I almost bricked it a few times also, some of my crafty experiments left me without the use of my tablet for hours at times and I came darn close to bricking the device for good a few times but was saved by XDA kindle pages and a micro usb dongle.
Yes, the power of root does become addictive and newbies need to be warned of the potential consequences and risks involved when rooting.
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fmf.post said:
For me being able to add multi window support for any app, on the fly is reason enough!
That was the reason for me.
Do it and test out the multi window app on the store.
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+1 for this. This was what did it for me. Other than that, I was already quite happy w/ the stock rom, so I kept it. I don't use it on this device, but you can also freeze or uninstall bloatware if you have root.
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Here is the biggest reason why you should not root....... Because rooting will void your warranty.
Everyone says just use Triangle Away and reset, well that is all fine but If it needs to go in for repairs because it will not restart or hangs at start screen you will be sorry.
I would play with your note for a month or so before you root because there are many apps that let you modify your tablet without root.
Here are a few that I have used that can make your tablet look very cool and backup data without root.
Sidebar
Carbon
CircleLauncher
One More Clock Widget
Palmary Weather
.
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What if you run triangle away right after flashing a new ROM? That way if it bricks or hangs at the start screen, the flash count triangle will still be 0. Would that work? Is there really no way to remove the triangle through USB and a computer?
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+1 for this. This was what did it for me. Other than that, I was already quite happy w/ the stock rom, so I kept it. I don't use it on this device, but you can also freeze or uninstall bloatware if you have root.
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What multi window program are you using?
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Triangle away will remove any counter trip. And if you're worried about rooting and warranties, you can just as easily unroot. Rooting can save you some headaches, since it's much easier to back up apps and such (titanium back-up, for one) and as you mentioned the ability to flash nice themes, such as kalagas.
I haven't flashed a custom rom yet, tho I have flashed Kalagas. Nice look!
Do some reading and enjoy your note, it's a great tablet with lots of potential to personalize it and make it your own. (check out some of the home screens in the Apps and Themes forum)
lazer155 said:
What if you run triangle away right after flashing a new ROM? That way if it bricks or hangs at the start screen, the flash count triangle will still be 0. Would that work? Is there really no way to remove the triangle through USB and a computer?
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As stated in the Triangle Away Description on Google Play.
"Please also note that some devices set the counter to 1 at every boot if you are running a custom kernel or recovery. On these devices, Triangle Away may always display 1 - make sure to check the counter in actual download mode".
It's on the android market...
Here you go!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5iamJpbmMubXVsdGl3aW5kb3dtYW5hZ2VyIl0.
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What multi window program are you using?
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This is the procedure I followed.
Really easy, first time I root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
First 3 posts contain all the information.
I'll root the note 8 once I have it, it's worth it.
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Cool. If I may ask are you on rooted stock or are you using a custom rom? If so, which rom are you using?
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Root or not to root

I'm no computer whiz so what are the advantages of rooting this phone as it seems plenty fast as is.
Well, with rooting, it's pretty much like being the Admin of your computer. So for starters, you have control over many more phone functions, especially when it comes to something like tethering. There are more apps and themes and ROMs available for you to use, which will cut down on battery usage, give you a better looking set of themes, and allow you to overclock not only your processor but also your GPU.
It's definitely something that isn't terribly essential, but it does make the phone more.....yours, so to speak.
Looks like I'm rooting and is there a way to unroot in case you need to send it back to Sprint so restoring to factory settings.
Yea you can flash back to stock and they'll never even know you had it rooted or had a custom rom
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Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
3 main reasons why I root all my devices:
1. Add app data backup (mainly games) to my new device
2. Tether
3. Flash custom roms
Root.
As previously stated, more performance, battery gains, and free tethering are only a few of the advantages....
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Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
it is necessary
you can be the admin of your phone. you control it , not the phone control you.
Besides all the reasons some folks have mentioned, I also root to use ad-blockers..
So I do not have to put up with ads is some apps.
Hoggles said:
Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
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Samsung devices doesn't have "S OFF". It's only htc devices. Bootloader maybe locked, depending on your carrier
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Well I want root asap on mine, going to have to uninstall all those S-lag apps Samsung added. Ones no one really needs and jsut slow the phone down. S heath and S Apps etc
The main reasons I'm going to root ASAP are because I want to enable an ad-blocker, wifi tether, restore some apps and disable some of the bloatware on the AT&T model. I'm going to try and stick with the stock ROM at least for a couple months. I've been using AOKP for a good 6 months on the GS3, it will be a nice change to go back to Touchwiz for a bit. (hopefully)
I will also be rooting mine as soon as I get it, so that I can restore everything from my s3 to it. I won't worry about custom roms for this phone for a while, although I'm sure that thread will explode in a few weeks.
I think I am leaving this one stocks for once. At least for a little while
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root because there will be massive amounts of mods available. i know because i'll be working on quite a few
cheers!
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
Sarcron said:
Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
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Must be rooted in order to use OTA RootKeeper from Play!
This application makes a backup or a protected backup of your device's root.
This device must already be rooted: OTA RootKeeper doesn't have the ability to root devices.
Link to thread from Chainfire about getting i9505 root
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AmesCell said:
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
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"sit in the box for a bit" ... like 2-3 minutes :laugh:
Mine may as well be shipped prerooted. I'm going to make sure my 'life companion' will really be my life companion lol.
I have decided to root if nothing else so I can tether. I also like to change the boot animation and shutdown animation. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of learning from you XDA guys.

Should i root my phone already.?

Well i am not a noob.I have used nexus s for year rooted it and enjoyed various launchers and roms.
But this one is my precious phone just bought one month back.
Two minds about rooting.Wanna try out Touchwiz 5.What say guyz shall i root?
(i wanna stay purestock by the way)
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Yes, I can't see see any disadvantage to rooting. It will allow you to do much more with your phone, more customization, more apps will work, etc. You should also look into custom kernels, they can help increase battery life a lot.
jadeisjaded said:
Yes, I can't see see any disadvantage to rooting. It will allow you to do much more with your phone, more customization, more apps will work, etc. You should also look into custom kernels, they can help increase battery life a lot.
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Can i successfully return to an UNROOTed STOCK thing in case of any problem??
Yes you can unroot and return to stock easily, especially if you use something like Nexus Root Toolkit, which has a button that just does that automatically.
Ok can i use franco kernel along with stock rom? i prefer having a pure google experience
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Nezam said:
Ok can i use franco kernel along with stock rom? i prefer having a pure google experience
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Sure you can.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4
TobiS87 said:
Sure you can.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4
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I am using the nexus toolkit.It goes till the Booting modified bootloader... but goes on Waiting for Device..
and my stock bootloader says "locked state:locked" but i am using a GSM carier in India and i can change my connection with
a change of sim card!
Please guide.
I just unrooted my last rooted device a few days ago. I just don't use root anymore anyway. But, I unlocked all bootloaders on all my devices just in case I would need to root again in the future.
For me, rooting lost its appeal with 4.1. I not against rooting, but I do really think it's now more an hobbyist thing than before. So, it's a personal choice / preference.
SalsaForte said:
I just unrooted my last rooted device a few days ago. I just don't use root anymore anyway. But, I unlocked all bootloaders on all my devices just in case I would need to root again in the future.
For me, rooting lost its appeal with 4.1. I not against rooting, but I do really think it's now more an hobbyist thing than before. So, it's a personal choice / preference.
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Using custom ROMS and simply staying stock is another talk..
we can keep stock and even then root.Doing so we can use certain apps or services which require rooting to either flash into it or make a
update zip.
I am keeping myself stock until i really really need to go to some
Nezam said:
Using custom ROMS and simply staying stock is another talk..
we can keep stock and even then root.Doing so we can use certain apps or services which require rooting to either flash into it or make a
update zip.
I am keeping myself stock until i really really need to go to some
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I've had my phone for two days and that's probably the longest I've gone without rooting a phone lol. The main reason I do it is for TB. I like to restore all my apps. I also am spoiled at this point. I had Illusion on my S3 and the customization if unbelievable. I loved all features on it So i'm looking at putting a custom ROM and kernel on mine today.
Indian9990 said:
I've had my phone for two days and that's probably the longest I've gone without rooting a phone lol. The main reason I do it is for TB. I like to restore all my apps. I also am spoiled at this point. I had Illusion on my S3 and the customization if unbelievable. I loved all features on it So i'm looking at putting a custom ROM and kernel on mine today.
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Haha same here. Got phone in the mail Thursday and got it rooted by Friday evening. Only reason it took so long was I got the phone for my daughter and I let her take it to school Friday morning.
My GS4 went from the store to home, open the box, rooted and flashed custom ROM. Total time from store to finish about 30 minutes.:good:

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