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I originally posted this on the Asus TransformerForums. Still no update from .13
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Root-Unroot-Restore-Lessons learned
Hello all. I've had my TF now since September or October and enjoying every minute of it. Bought mine in Japan so it was HTKXX.JP_epad-version B70 model. Like so many of us the first thing I wanted to do was root it and install custom ROMs. Being the B70like many I had to wait until Razorclaw was released but as soon as it was I was ready to root.
Let me say I'm not well versed in rooting, intalling, and troubleshooting Android devices...and like many the tablets are new to me. So, to help me figure it out I search and read the forums, re-read, and search again. Notice I said "search the forms", that is very important before posting questions as most of our questions have already been asked and answered. That being said, its ok to post a question, I've found the admins, mods, and other people with experience, problems, and solutions all willing to help. Don't forget, these people do this freely so always respect them even if you dont like the answers or advice they give you. Many of us would have some very shiny paper weights if not for the help from the many on here.
Now..to continue my little adventure. And root I did, Prime! 2.1.0, Revolver, Revolutions HD, and back to Prime! when I had questions I turned to the forums, and sometimes was even able to give a little advice myself. With ICS on the horizion and the latest OTA I thought I should look at unrooting and returning my device back to stock. So, again I turned to the forum for information. Because my TF was the JP model I was concerned there may be something with the build that would prevent this or I wouldnt be able to get the right firmware. You see...there isnt a lot of information related to JP models on the forum. I didnt realize they are all "pretty much the same".
Either way, I eventually posted a question and right away was helped with information or unrooting and reflashing back to stock. All the information however was to restore the US model. After some discussions with one of the RS guys I decided what the heck...gonna try it anyway. (the tinker/challenger in me)
Very good instructions for everything I wanted to do were there. If you think I'm joking, check the signature of RS Team Lead Frederuco. It's all there.
End result my TF was unrooted and now have ver 3.2.1 US.epad-8.6.5.13-20110925 kernel ver [email protected]#1. hmmm...I was worried because everyone was talking about ver.19 and .21...am I in trouble? I've tried various things to get caught up even with a version that I could possibly re-root. Oh boy....even trying to go back and get the JP update from ASUS didnt work, my device is now a US.epad device. My thoughts were...well, at least its still working.
Then I decided to do a bit more investigation, so i went to one of the local computer stores and checked the build and kernel version. I was suprised to see that the only difference in what I now have and what's in the stores is the JP & US. So, maybe what I'm waiting for hasnt gotten to Japan yet...or the ones in the store just haven't been updated. (more likely the case)
Either way, the point and advice here is this. if you decide to unroot and restore I dont recommend to the weak hearted to use a SKU other than what came on your device. It worked yes but not sure where I'm going from here. For me, it doesnt matter as I can always manually update when the versions are on the ASUS site. Worse case, I would have just bought another device and ....yep probably rooted it right away
We all know the risks we take when rooting, tinkering, etc. If you take the plunge, search, read, asks. And respect the people helping.
I hope this in someway helps someone
Update:
I've been able to get my TF from US.epad-8.6.5.13-20110925 to WW_epad-8.6.6.19-20111101 If nothing else I can at least root again. Will probably wait to see if I am actually getting OTA or not. The steps followed can be found in dev post "possible fix for lost root with 8.6.5.21" Sorry, I cant post links yet...
Note that I've changed the SKU on my device from JP to US to WW. So far I haven't seen any problems because of this. (still, if you aren't sure I recommend you dont)
Hallo!
Many of you have already received the anoying 4.5.1 upgrade and wait for a miricle so they can root/safestrap/install custom rom etc.
There are many discussions about if this is possible or not.
Many of you contacted Amazon trying to explain they have problems after 4.1.1/4.5.1, assuming at this time, only amazon can "push" such a downgrade for your device.
I want to share here my experience so far.
I got a Kindle HDX 7 last Friday , because it was only 100 EUR at Amazon.
Having no idea what kind of crap regarding its OS it is, I let it update automaticly to 4.5.1.
I saw then, that I can not do any root/custom firmware on it since 4.5.1 is new and not "hacked". There is a thread here in XDA and also a similar ones at other android forums, that someone suggests contacting Amazon and making them "push" a Downgrade from the servers to your device. Many of you already tried it and it did not work.
I have contacted Amazon trought Chat about 5 times. First I was being told that its "techicaly impossible" to do any kind of downgrade or they avoided my conversation and only suggested that I bring my device to service for a replacement. After 4-5 failed attempts I spoke to some random Amazon guy, were I stated that I do not like the new 4.... versions and I insist I get a roll back. I told him also that my device freezes and restarts by itself after the 4.1.1 and persisting trought 4.5.1.
And than the miricle happened. He told me a rollback to 3.2... is possible and he would contact me with more info per E-mail and in 1-2 days their Technical department will "send" the downgrade directly to my Kindle.
I would post here after I have some more news/I have succesfully downgradet.
So, a downgrade via Amazon IS POSSIBLE!
Kind Regards
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Hallo!
Many of you have already received the anoying 4.5.1 upgrade and wait for a miricle so they can root/safestrap/install custom rom etc.
There are many discussions about if this is possible or not.
Many of you contacted Amazon trying to explain they have problems after 4.1.1/4.5.1, assuming at this time, only amazon can "push" such a downgrade for your device.
I want to share here my experience so far.
I got a Kindle HDX 7 last Friday , because it was only 100 EUR at Amazon.
Having no idea what kind of crap regarding its OS it is, I let it update automaticly to 4.5.1.
I saw then, that I can not do any root/custom firmware on it since 4.5.1 is new and not "hacked". There is a thread here in XDA and also a similar ones at other android forums, that someone suggests contacting Amazon and making them "push" a Downgrade from the servers to your device. Many of you already tried it and it did not work.
I have contacted Amazon trought Chat about 5 times. First I was being told that its "techicaly impossible" to do any kind of downgrade or they avoided my conversation and only suggested that I bring my device to service for a replacement. After 4-5 failed attempts I spoke to some random Amazon guy, were I stated that I do not like the new 4.... versions and I insist I get a roll back. I told him also that my device freezes and restarts by itself after the 4.1.1 and persisting trought 4.5.1.
And than the miricle happened. He told me a rollback to 3.2... is possible and he would contact me with more info per E-mail and in 1-2 days their Technical department will "send" the downgrade directly to my Kindle.
I would post here after I have some more news/I have succesfully downgradet.
So, a downgrade via Amazon IS POSSIBLE!
Kind Regards
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yea sure a downgrade is possible. Hopefully one of our DEV's find a solution to emulate an "amazon pushed downgrade assignment"
taette said:
yea sure a downgrade is possible. Hopefully one of our DEV's find a solution to emulate an "amazon pushed downgrade assignment"
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You read my mind.
Would be nice to be able to flash versions ourselves.
I'll wait under 30 days
I think my kindle already had a 4.something software for the uk as soon as I turned it on it updated once to 4.5.1 and the logs state 4.1 to 4.5.
I'm going to wait under 30 days and then return it as it doesn't connect well with the chromecast or my smart tv, and Amazon simply say wait for another update and it might work but don't count on it but they blamed it all on google (a lie).
One thing with everyone now owning one, I bet the number of calls to "mayday" has gone up and we could all ask regularly about items they have omitted to allow work, see if they can keep to the 15 second target?
It also looks having read all the forums that its been well over a year and few people bought one especially the clever dev's, and the bootloader looks incredibly well locked down compared to versions 1+2, so no-one is working on it.
what does everyone think about the chance of being able to get google play store working on the new 4.5 or should I use it for another week and then return it due to having fantastic hardware but severely software limited and save up for something with a mostly vanilla android.
Temporary solution
hello guys i went to a lot sites looking for a way to root the kindle fire hdx 7 on fire os 4.5.1
its a pain if you got the OTA and you didnt know it was very important to stop that update in order to be able to root.
here a solution to run android apps without crash its very long proccess but if you want it you can have it!
search on youtube : How to install GAPPS (Google Apps) on the Fire HD6, HD7, and HDX
from Imma Wake
no link cuz im new here!
I was also able to get my downgraded from 4.5.1 . After being passed around between departments for 15mins I finally got someone that was able to do what I asked. She said I should be receiving an email within 1-2 business days with further information on the downgrade.
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Twoods196 said:
I was also able to get my downgraded from 4.5.1 . After being passed around between departments for 15mins I finally got someone that was able to do what I asked. She said I should be receiving an email within 1-2 business days with further information on the downgrade.
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I was told the same. Have you heard anything since?
Nothing yet but it's only been 1 day how long have you been waiting?
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Nothing yet but it's only been 1 day how long have you been waiting?
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Been about 24 hours now, haven't heard anything yet.
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Been about 24 hours now, haven't heard anything yet.
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I am waiting for it since last Friday (28.11). I contacted amazon two days ago and they told me they still wait for an answer from the technical department?! Yesterday I made an angry e-mail and I got a fast answer with great apology and a promise they will be ready till 10.12.
I really wish I saw this post before hand I just wasted 3 hours trying two root this bloody thing and two find out fun 7 > 4.5.1 wont root, I feel like a bloody lemon now, I hope someone can help downgrade or update the hack what a bummer.
I'm chatting with Amazon custom service,
They accept my kindle roll back to os 13.3.x.x but they warning my kindle cant not further updates
well well
so confusing
Yep, got the same thing yesterday after going through 6-7 different chats.
well this is what the CS chats:
" 09:14 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): We are unable to roll back the software version of your Kindle device as the software version is too high. Only devices running FIRE OS version 4.1.1 can have their software rolled back to the previous version.
I see your Kindle is updated with Fire OS 4.5.1 (451004520).
However, to help you in this case I have forwarded your issue to our technical team with more information.
09:15 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): They will get back to you with more information regarding your software roll back."
still waiting..... OS 4.5.1 is very nice, everything is ok, just only i cant connect to Google Play Services, does anyone know how to solve that????
Thanks alot
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well this is what the CS chats:
" 09:14 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): We are unable to roll back the software version of your Kindle device as the software version is too high. Only devices running FIRE OS version 4.1.1 can have their software rolled back to the previous version.
I see your Kindle is updated with Fire OS 4.5.1 (451004520).
However, to help you in this case I have forwarded your issue to our technical team with more information.
09:15 AM PST Vijayalakshmi(Amazon): They will get back to you with more information regarding your software roll back."
still waiting..... OS 4.5.1 is very nice, everything is ok, just only i cant connect to Google Play Services, does anyone know how to solve that????
Thanks alot
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Isn't it required that it be a system app in order to function properly?
You have to install some services which requires root. This means playstore isn't compatible with not rootable kindle versions like 4.5.1
Finally! AMZ downgraded my Kindle
Hi!
Amazon rolled back my Kindle yesterday!
It took me one chat and one email to get them downgrade my device.
I switched on my Kindle yesterday and it automatically flashed the 3.2.7 Firmware which we still can root by using the towel root method!
Is there any info I can upload from my Kindle for you? If the files still exists of course...
Cheers
URBANsUNITED
I just managed to get them working on rolling back mine an hour ago, first try to. and she did it while I was on the phone with her. Pretty easy, but I did have a pretty damn good story.
Thread Necro, sorry, meant to post in the other window I have open.
Amazon succesfull Downgrade my Kindle Fire HDX to 3.2.7. Rooting with towelroot works .
Is there a solution to downgrade to 3.1.0 from 3.2.7 ?
@isRaZZe
Which version had your hdx, 4.5.1 or 4.5.2 ?
As a new kindle user ( we bought our son an hdx for Christmas ) we were disappointed to find the locked App Store and no access to google play - which we had just assumed the kindle would have.
Following a lot of advice on here I have finally managed to get the kindle software down graded from 4.5.2 ( ironicAlly it upgraded on Christmas day morning !) to 13.3.2.8
Subsequently I have managed to root the device and install the Google play store which is finally working well.
So thank you to all of the contributors to this forum for your guides and advice I finally have the kindle we were expecting and I have to say it really is pretty good now.
One thing I was told when I downgraded was that I would be unable to upgrade in the future - can anyone confirm if there is a way to upgrade to later software from a device that has been downgraded ? I assumed they said it because ota wouldn't work anymore ... It may be nice to upgrade if 4.5.2 gets rooted in the future
Thanks again for everyone's help.
You can still Update your HDX by manuelly downloading the Updates from the Amazon.com Website.
Great - I thought there would be a way .
Thanks for the info.
Hi, could you please link to the explanation on how to do so.. Or explain it please.. Funny thing as i ran into this forum with the exact same issue, Christmas kindle with no google play access.. Thank you in advance
It looks like after hundred years of wait the final version of Marshmallow is here
But the thread about it have already flooded with hackers and people who root and are in general very advanced users.
Most people of us here have not rooted or touched the boot loader, all the problem we might see in the other thread might be because of the reason
that they have modified the phone in different ways.
so lets discuss of this update work for us who have non-modifed devices ? And let
keep all advanced "root" and hacking talk please. Especially since that in its own might confuse people
cause modified devices might cause problems that we do not get for people who have had patience
to not modified there devices or install any Beta versions of android.
It is not much information at this point about what versions that it is compatible with
but it can be downloaded here
http://www.huaweiblog.de/android/mar...fiziell-final/
I think we are all eager to install this device but there is not much info
we simply need more people to try and confirm what works and not
I think most people in this thread will be on lollipop b331
So it would be nice if people could try and confirm if it works from this version
will all data be wiped ?
You need to do full backup ?
Let us know what problem you get into.
For more advanced rooting and hacking talking use the other thread
this thread is for people with non experience of that
I myself am on B513 and tried updating to the final marshmallow build yesterday and it did not work, i tried both methods of updating, using the dialer method would not even recognize there was an update on my sd card, the power button and volume up and down method started and got to about 5% and then failed. This was all also done on a clean Mate 7, no root or anything and I even reset and wiped the device before trying the update. Either I'm doing something wrong in the update process or this update does not work on B513. Any help would be great in figuring this update out!
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I myself am on B513 and tried updating to the final marshmallow build yesterday and it did not work, i tried both methods of updating, using the dialer method would not even recognize there was an update on my sd card, the power button and volume up and down method started and got to about 5% and then failed. This was all also done on a clean Mate 7, no root or anything and I even reset and wiped the device before trying the update. Either I'm doing something wrong in the update process or this update does not work on B513. Any help would be great in figuring this update out!
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This is really valuable information thanks I am in the same situation as you. I have not tried to update myself I want to make sure all this work before I start to backup and wipe my device as you might understand.
blackinfinity said:
This is really valuable information thanks I am in the same situation as you. I have not tried to update myself I want to make sure all this work before I start to backup and wipe my device as you might understand.
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So are you on B331 or B513?
B331
From what i have gathered, we may have a problem with the 'cust'. Aparently the verion that's around only works with C432 and some of us have C900 (you can easily check this in 'about phone/build number'. I hope someone with more knowledge can guide us
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From what i have gathered, we may have a problem with the 'cust'. Aparently the verion that's around only works with C432 and some of us have C900 (you can easily check this in 'about phone/build number'. I hope someone with more knowledge can guide us
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Does this mean we have to roll back to kitkat ?
blackinfinity said:
Does this mean we have to roll back to kitkat ?
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I upgraded from B513
bug on B522
Hello everyone I have noticed a bug under Marshmallow, some applications like facebook or twitter messenger does not run in the background and suddenly I not receive notifications if they are closed ( the same thing with B513 ) .
All the parameters are good , apps are "protected" and have all the permissions to do it ( run in background ) : it comes from Marshmallow or must wait for updated applications concerned ?
Second question , twice I managed to see integrated into the " phone " application during a call , the keys to Register the call or forward ... it lasted only 5/10 seconds and I unable to remember what I hit to make them appear .. you have an idea ?
Thank you (you and google translate )
we all know that huawei is the most incompetent out of all android oem's, but i dont think they're such idiots to release final version software with such restrictions to who can install it. the update demands too specific conditions to succeed.. i am on c900b331 and im sick of waiting. guys, even 4 years old nexus 4 works WAY better, more smooth and stable than mate 7. i guess we're just used to how it works but since few days im using iphone se and... i think i couldnt go back to huawei. this thing barely works compared to iphone.. still got the mate7, and nexus 4 and waiting to test out final marshmallow.
my concern is this whole b522 is not a stable final yet.
So far everything is running pretty smooth, updated from c900b513 to c900b522 and works great so far, only noticeable thing is the new health app and all but one theme is deleted, but they can easily be downloaded and added again if you want them, ram management is far better, I'll see how battery is tomorrow
Good Evening
I have recently acquired a Meizu MX4 PRO from my father who buys lots of phones mainly from Ebay and Aliexpress (direct from China) - He has had this phone for quite some time but could never really do much with it because everything was in Chinese and the flyme account is registered to a completely random email address that none of us recognize. Anyhow over christmas he was telling me about it and I said that I would take a look and see what I could do as I have some knowledge of rooting, TWRP, flashing etc. After a good couple of days of trying different things I am none the wiser. I can't for the life of me root this little monkey!
I have tried the following KINGROOT APK, KINGROOT PC, ADB, TERMINAL COMMAND (little knowledge), since exhausting all avenues (I have lost track how many threads I have read) I thought XDA may be my last hope, or at least to find out if it's possible?
Is there anyway of rooting this phone without getting in to the flyme account? - it does sound a bit dodgy I suppose asking this, however it really does appear that a seller in china sold this phone without logging out of his\her account?
Specifications:
Model MX 4 PRO
Android Version 5.1.1
Build number Flyme 5.1.11.1A
Baseband version LTG_3.117.003
If its simply not possible then I will just give it back to my father and say its not possible to do anything with it.
Any help you can offer would be greatly received
Thanks for reading
Darren
Hi. I just bought one with a used flyme account (owner says nver create one....but has his name...probably just created it in the first run an doesn't remember...all in chinese xD) and rooted it easily with KingRoot (then all meizu apps went to hibernation...and no problems til now)
Try to downgrade or update to a beta and try again kingroot 4.8.1 and 4.9.5 did both the job on mine. (SuperSume not...)
You can flash the Chinese firmware with wiping the data first. When the flashing done, go to settings, format internal storage, then you can login your own account
Giovanni7cc said:
You can flash the Chinese firmware with wiping the data first. When the flashing done, go to settings, format internal storage, then you can login your own account
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Hi
Thanks for the reply - What chinese firmware do I use to flash please? are you able to point me to a link? - I am familiar with flashing but I want to make sure that I am using the right firmware. Thanks
xamix said:
Hi. I just bought one with a used flyme account (owner says nver create one....but has his name...probably just created it in the first run an doesn't remember...all in chinese xD) and rooted it easily with KingRoot (then all meizu apps went to hibernation...and no problems til now)
Try to downgrade or update to a beta and try again kingroot 4.8.1 and 4.9.5 did both the job on mine. (SuperSume not...)
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Hi sounds promising - Which software am I downgrading or upgrading to, the Meizu or Kingroot?
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Hi sounds promising - Which software am I downgrading or upgrading to, the Meizu or Kingroot?
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I think I've unlocked all versions of FlymeOS with Kingroot...using the last beta and rooted too...
If it doesn't work at first just keep trying...till 100%
any luck ?