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root or not to root Nexus 7

I am very new to android as well as this forum...
Just bought Nexus 7 yesterday ( and yeah its my first android device).
Everyone geeks are telling me to root my device, some intelligent also says don't root it voids your warranty.
So i have few queries as novice user.
Should i root my device?
Is it safe? will my warranty void after root?
can i use add on device like pen drive, mouse via OTG without Rooting?
Can I unroot? if yes, then if I unroot, I get my warranty back?
What are other benifits of root?
Which is easiest meathod of root?

rooting sucks..don't try it

Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
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Okaay said:
Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
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I couldn't agree more with what he said. Try wugfreshs toolkit, it's very simple and forward.
There's a good youtube tutorial of how to do it on youtube, just search up " How to Root the Google Nexus 7 qbking77"
Good luck !

Okaay said:
I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
I'm getting that battery life without rooting or new kernel.
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as people said, don't fix it if it ain't broke. unless you need more storage via stickmount. My is not rooted yet, maybe later.

hirenvasani said:
So i have few queries as novice user.
Should i root my device?
Is it safe? will my warranty void after root?
can i use add on device like pen drive, mouse via OTG without Rooting?
Can I unroot? if yes, then if I unroot, I get my warranty back?
What are other benifits of root?
Which is easiest meathod of root?
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yes
The rooting process is 99.0% safe if you read
Yes
Yes,yes
Ad blocking, USB OTG, console controllers, make Jailbreakers jealous
WugFresh toolkit, adb is failsafe but not as easy. Get PDAnet drivers.
Fastboot OEM Unlock
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One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
On the one hand, I've rooted/jailbroken all my previous devices, but I'm getting my N7 partly to watch video via Hulu+ and Time Warner. Neither of those work on my One X. Is that the case with this one? Has anyone found any workarounds? The threads for the signed versions of those two apps seem to have died.

iElvis said:
One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
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Some used to, but I don't know of any now. Which ones are left?

Thanks everyone for your valuable advice...
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?

hirenvasani said:
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?
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Not enough information. What did you try, with the cable, did you load stickmount. Did you try to use it to mount the drive. what type of "pendrive" etc..

hirenvasani said:
Thanks everyone for your valuable advice...
I have rooted my device. But my pendrive doesnt detect via OTG? Any Solution?
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You have the stickmount app installed? USB must be formatted as FAT32....as the easiest solution. I think linux filesystems also work like ext3 but then you can't use the usb on a Windows machine without additional software.
For a while my USB didn't work, then I plugged in a mouse and that worked. Plugged the usb in again and it somehow started working.....weird eh?

silly question, always root. even if you dont need root today, tomorrow you might. and by that time you might have useful data that might get wiped when you do decide to root. anyways, its nice to have complete control over your device, if not for the performance side, then for the maintenance and customization side.

Its MoserBear 16 GB, FAT 32 formatted Pendrive, was trying to connect it via Galaxy S2 OTG and I also installed stickmount, when i click on mount it show there is no active mounts....
Hop[e this much info is good....
Awaiting for any solution.

I rooted my phone and have decided it's not necessary on my N7 (yet). On my phone I just end up with a bunch more apps that get updated more frequently (like Titanium). The only issue I have with the N7 is real small text on some apps (like Amazon App store), will rooting fix this? With a 3rd party launcher you can make the N7 look and feel any way you want. I have 4gb left of 16, so I may root "someday" if I want to put more music on it.

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One issue no one has brought up--some apps block rooted devices.
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Instead, how many apps require rooted devices? How useful and relevant are those apps compared to the fabled apps that block root (I honestly have never seen any)?

palmboy5 said:
Instead, how many apps require rooted devices? How useful and relevant are those apps compared to the fabled apps that block root (I honestly have never seen any)?
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The only one I can think of is Barclays Pingit - though not sure its compatible with N7 anyway.
Agree with previous comments - even if you dont need the benifits from rooting immediately its always best to root it at the start before you set it all up and have to wipe it all. I've learnt this the hard way before.
IMO the benefits of root overweight the downfalls, by far

Google Wallet Statement
On the Google Wallet FAQs it says that Google Wallet doesn't support rooted phones...can anyone confirm it does still work or..? Cause that's the main thing holding me back. Sorry if this has already been answered

Okaay said:
Use wugfreshs toolkit to root. Rooting is great. When you root your device you need to unlock the bootloader . When the boot loader is unlocked, the warranty is void. But its a nexus device so its easy to lock it back up so that your warranty is back so don't worry about that. Yes, you can unroot, its as easy as flashing a stock rom. There are many benefits of rooting, I for one love no ads in Any apps, including games. I use an app called wifikill which allows me to kick any WiFi device at my house offline so that I can use ,more bandwidth than my siblings also, rooting opens up Roms and kernels. I downloaded and flashed trinity kernel. I am getting crazy battery life. Up to 6-10 hrs of ONSCREEN time which is ridiculous . ROOT YOU DEVIIICE!!!!
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Where can i get 'wifikill' It isn't on the play store (Silly of me to look really) Can you send me a link via a PM?
EDIT: found it on Slideme, from a XDA thread. should of searched it here before asking Never mind

BambiTyler said:
On the Google Wallet FAQs it says that Google Wallet doesn't support rooted phones...can anyone confirm it does still work or..? Cause that's the main thing holding me back. Sorry if this has already been answered
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Im rooted google wallet works fine for me.
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Does rooting impact Prime features?

Can someone please explain whether rooting the HDX (mine is a 7" if that matter) has any impact on Amazon Prime such as can no longer borrow book and video?
Thanks for helping a newbie!
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No it doesn't. I have Prime and everything works fine and always has. Though unless you need root and plan on using it for stuff like Titanium Backup, no need to root.

chirawat said:
Can someone please explain whether rooting the HDX (mine is a 7" if that matter) has any impact on Amazon Prime such as can no longer borrow book and video?
Thanks for helping a newbie!
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No, but root is only for version # 13.3.1.0 for now. Rooting gives you higher permissions on the device and does not impact much more. Rooting and running as root is similar to running a Windows application as Administrator. In order to do special things to your device such as browsing the root folder, changing root files, running rom's and any app that needs root, needs to be granted 'root access' to the device. Now some root apps, conflict with with services such as Books and Prime video is a cat and mouse game ( some do and some don't ). The biggest issue is that you need to keep your device from updating. If Amazon releases an update and patches the hole that the root uses to be 'granted root access' you loose root permissions and ie. all root apps and mods. There are a few ways to block Amazon updates but they might impact some Amazon apps. If you want Google Play along with all the Amazon apps, progress is being made. But I suggest rooting and trying to use a way to block updates so if Amazon updates you won't miss the root window. Take it with a grain of salt an ask yourself what you want from the tablet.

Thanks for the prompt replies!
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Another new user who just got a hand on a HDX, though in my case its an 8.9. I've been wondering if I should root mine as well. I know that Google Apps don't require root, but I use Titanium Backup and a few other similar apps on my other tablet. I've read that its still dangerous to root at the moment however... Is it worth the risk?

I'm not sure why it would be dangerous unless you're installing shady apps by mistake but that's what SuperSU is for.

I thought I'd read that it was possible to brick the tablet while rooting elsewhere on the board, and sometimes get a bit paranoid about stuff like that. Thats all.

Ah yes, there's always that possibility which is why I said unless you need it, don't bother. Pretty sure you need root for Play store to work though I'm not 100% sure. The rest of the gapps work but ymmv.

Hmm... Is there another type of app like Titanium Backup that I'd be able to use without root?

Sandwitches said:
Hmm... Is there another type of app like Titanium Backup that I'd be able to use without root?
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Helium, previously known as Carbon.
I'm not keen on it personally (some backups fail to restore) but it does work without root.

Question about rooting for first time (4.4)

I've never rooted a phone before and I'm a little nervous about doing so. I don't fully understand the difference between all the various ROM's. For instance are there advantages and disadvantages between the different ROMs that are floating around? Also what happens when 4.4 comes out? I'm assuming I'd be blocked from Updating. Would I have to wait until someone releases a 4.4 ROM? The main reason I want to Root is to remove all the useless apps Samsung/Tmobile stuck on my phone, but when I check out the processes, I don't even see that they are running. Would it even be worth it to root if this is the only reason I am doing it for?
I also see people talking about removing TouchWiz once they are rooted. I already am using Nova, but if I remove TouchWiz, will I just have the basic Android UI like I had on my Nexus? Or will I have to stick with a 3rd party launcher? Does removing TouchWiz result in a noticeable speed difference?

Hey rooting isn't for everyone. You could root and get rid of certain apps and bloatware. What I did before rooting was just disable and hide those apps.
It was fine but then as root user for a long time, I rooted and now use it more to tweak the look and feel.
The best way to know a rom is to try it.
I have used alot on this forum but currently feel comfortable with Omega Rom v6 with Wanam Xposed.
The possibilities are endless and as long as you understand the Knox flag then you should be free to try and do what you will.
Last if you ever want to just go back to stock and leave it there with updates it's pretty easy.
Sam mobile has always the latest updates available to download and you install those with Odin.
Good luck
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jetbruceli said:
Hey rooting isn't for everyone. You could root and get rid of certain apps and bloatware. What I did before rooting was just disable and hide those apps.
It was fine but then as root user for a long time, I rooted and now use it more to tweak the look and feel.
The best way to know a rom is to try it.
I have used alot on this forum but currently feel comfortable with Omega Rom v6 with Wanam Xposed.
The possibilities are endless and as long as you understand the Knox flag then you should be free to try and do what you will.
Last if you ever want to just go back to stock and leave it there with updates it's pretty easy.
Sam mobile has always the latest updates available to download and you install those with Odin.
Good luck
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Thanks for the response! May I ask how you disabled and hid the apps without rooting?

Nevermind actually, I figured out how to turn them off from the App info screen. But is there a way to hide them so they don't show up at all?
Edit: lol nevermind again. They disappear when you turn them off. Thank you so much for letting me know about this! I had no idea this was possible

brildenlanch said:
Thanks for the response! May I ask how you disabled and hid the apps without rooting?
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That's using the main launcher and also you can under application manager in settings
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jetbruceli said:
That's using the main launcher and also you can under application manager in settings
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Awesome! Again thank you for taking the time to help me out. I really appreciate it

No problem and thanks for hitting the thanks button
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Since I really don't care about my warranty, I just went and flashed TWRP via Odin.
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Is there any reason not to root my new 6p?

Like the title says, is there any reason not to root my new 6p?
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Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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funnel71 said:
Android pay won't work but other than that I love mine rooted
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Android Pay works with system-less root.
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That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.

jpeg42 said:
I tried with systemless root and AP worked fine, but my company dinged me for having email installed and they detected root.
Sucks too because EX kernel plus stock seemed awesome. But having access to corporate email is more a daily must, and I don't want to carry two phones.
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I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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funnel71 said:
I know what you mean, my company uses good for email access and it will shut down if root is detected. So, I just carry two phones
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I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
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Some apps *cought* Snapchat *cough* don't work even with the root hiding xposed module. For some reason, I could still use snapchat even with root, but no xposed. On my Note 4, I couldn't use snapchat unless the thing is completely stock.

funnel71 said:
That's what I have or so I thought but I can't seem to add any cards to it. It tells me my Android device isn't recognized. Do you know how to get around that
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Once you've installed system-less root you have to remove xbin_bin folder in /su/bin if you forgot to do it when installing system-less. You also have to change the permissions of the /su/bin folder to 0751 from 0755. You can change the permissions through terminal on the phone, or with adb on the computer; you can also change the permissions with a file manager such as Root Explorer. I suggest you reboot the phone just as a precaution after making the changes.
Once you've done that you can check with one of the SafetyNet checking apps from the Play Store.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I was reading over an Xposed module the other day that can hide root detection. I personally have no experience with this as I have no need to hide root. Have you tried using root masking apps or modules before?
And to the OP, no. I bought this phone specifically because its a nexus.... It was built to be rooted. Some will argue that point saying that android is so well optimized now that root isn't necessary, stock ROMs are no longer better than stock blah blah blah. Root still have amazing advantages. I say root all the way. Heisenberg wrote an amazing guide in the general section that will answer 99% of your questions about this phone when it comes to rooting and flashing. Anything else he and community will answer in the Q&A section.
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Xposed automatically breaks AP...no way around that.

The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.

NCguy said:
The two reasons I don't root it are android pay and updates. I know AP is possible but it's a cat and mouse game. Updates seem easier now than in previous versions but not nearly as convenient as they are unrooted.
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Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...

slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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This. Plus updating via fastboot really isnt very difficult at all. A little time consuming but that's it.

slaydog said:
Most custom ROMs are usually updated before you get the official OTA from Google...
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The OP said root not ROM.

NCguy said:
The OP said root not ROM.
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Yeah, I was just pointing out that if you don't like to root because it's more difficult to get updates, you may want to try a custom ROM, then you can have the benefits of root and easy updates.
Of course you'll still have the same cat and mouse game with Google in regards to Android Pay, so if you find yourself shopping without your wallet allot, you might just wanna forget the whole thing...

Hide root to app on Pure Nexus (Nougat 7.1.2)

I have an app on my phone (Airwatch), that is required in order to receive my "work email." Well, in order for that to work, i need to basically hide my root access to that app. Doing so will make the app thinks the device is not compromised, and allow the authorization to complete.
I've researched quite of view sites and videos, but all seem be for older android versions or not for SuperSU.
Anyone had any luck hiding root to an app on Pure Nexus Rom 7.1.2 ?
Thank you!

Try this when naugat was fresh I couldn't get it to work for Android pay but I'm seeing more success on the forum now
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ts/5llqrc/root_help_magisk_and_phh_superuser/
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gjkrisa said:
Try this when naugat was fresh I couldn't get it to work for Android pay but I'm seeing more success on the forum now
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ts/5llqrc/root_help_magisk_and_phh_superuser/
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That's a doozy of a thread. Looks like i have a lot of reading to do.
I sure hope something works. I sold my old phone and bought this Nexus 6P in order to root (for free tethering) and add a custom rom. I absolutely need my work email, so i hope i can figure something out without going to back to a stock phone.

You can use Google's tether for free without root
Oops guess not that was a long time ago when I needed that guess you did need root
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Guess it depends on the carrier for tethering. I have the pain of AT&T.

JTOUPS1214 said:
I have an app on my phone (Airwatch), that is required in order to receive my "work email." Well, in order for that to work, i need to basically hide my root access to that app. Doing so will make the app thinks the device is not compromised, and allow the authorization to complete.
I've researched quite of view sites and videos, but all seem be for older android versions or not for SuperSU.
Anyone had any luck hiding root to an app on Pure Nexus Rom 7.1.2 ?
Thank you!
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I use Nine and use the software base security when setting up my work email. No issue with root.
As for hiding root, I use Magisk but I can't get safetynet to pass. Oh well.

therock3181 said:
I use Nine and use the software base security when setting up my work email. No issue with root.
As for hiding root, I use Magisk but I can't get safetynet to pass. Oh well.
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I know Magisk has the "hide root" feature. But is it worth changing from SuperSU to Magisk? It sounds like I still won't pass safety net since I'm running a custom Rom.

Well, i figured a work-around to avoid installing Airwatch. I just added a shortcut to my office360 email, right on my homescreen. It doesn't notify me of new work emails, but at least i can go check them.
But i still would like to add my Snapchat. Is there anything floating around which allows you to use snapchat with Pure Nexus?

Magisk is the way to root and hide it. -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk
it's supported and on the stock ROM, Android Pay and SafetyNet passes with an unlocked bootloader and root.